Henry Payne for August 05, 2023

I just ran a quick check on the prices of gas v. Electric stoves a BestBuy. Basic model gas stoves are more expensive.

Henry Payne. Liar.

Republicans want to dissolve the EPA so they can pollute freely.

Gas stoves have been banned?

Has Home Depot been notified?

Bombing the Nordstream pipelines probably released a lot of methane too.

At a time when the world is reeling from the effects of climate change, Payne comes up with this nonsensical, poorly drawn excuse for a cartoon.

If I have to say something positive about this cartoon, it’s that it showcases the complete bankruptcy of the Right wing in terms of reason, logic or facts.

A snapshot of current cost of ownership:

“… Kelley Blue Book calculates the five-year cost to own a vehicle, which includes all vehicle-related costs a consumer will likely have within the first five years of ownership. The data pulled from the first week of February in 2023 shows that EVs cost consumers an average of $65,202 during this time period, while ICE vehicles cost $56,962.

Of course, no consumer experience is the same. People use their vehicles for different purposes, require different upkeep, and have different financial resources. We have broken down the costs that contribute to these averaged totals, so that consumers can understand the costs associated with their individual needs. …"

https://www.nada.org/nada/nada-headlines/beyond-sticker-price-cost-ownership-evs-v-ice-vehicles

For the record – the incandescent bulb rules were made 16 years ago and not by Granholm.

I’m at the age that I am paying an extra high price for light bulbs that will live longer than I will.

The reality of Biden’s administration. Increasing the entitlement sector. Big government is not here to help.

Still hurt that he didn’t get to be part of the kidnapping effort.

First Michigan and now the country, what shall her next target be?

When change occurs, there are always difficulties/setbacks and the “get off my lawn” crowd shakes their fists in unison. The reality is that being proactive and transitioning away from fossil fuels (which won’t be immediate) is the smart thing to do. From a source much admired by the right:

https://www.foxweather.com/lifestyle/driving-pay-cheapest-gas-pump-where-live

So, because of higher temps, the facilities that helped cause those higher temps are not able to function causing a rise in prices. If the models are correct, this is just the tip of the iceberg (which will disappear too).

While the knee-jerk MAGA bunch will no doubt blame Biden and the left for increased gas prices in the present, the reality is the transition is a necessity. If there’s any hope of future that’s not completely dystopian, the path laid out seems to be the wisest choice. Even if it means I can’t have the things I’ve always been used to.

Arent led light cheaper than bulbs?

Good one, Henry.

Conservatives care so much about the poor because they make so many of them — and keep ‘em there.

A 60w incandescent light costs, on average, $150.00 to light for an entire year. A LED light that provides the exact same amount of illumination costs, on average, $21.25 for a year – Both being measured at $0.10 per KWH.*

Even if you factor in the extra cost of buying the bulb (LED $5.00 vs. Incandescent $1.00), the homeowner is going to save a lot of money using the LED Bulb.

I get get 60 Watt equivalent LEDs for $3 a bulb. Last 25,000 hours only using 13 watts. Incandescents last 1,500 hours and use 60 watts. If the gosh darned things cost a nickel you would still lose money.

Payne lies, who knew?

The ban on incandescent bulbs came out of the Bush era. Why don’t you go nuts about W, Hankie?

Consistently Paynefully stupid cartoons.

Incandescent light bulbs cost four-five times as much to operate and last only a small fraction as long as the newer LED bulbs. Poor people are blessed in more ways than one when they switch. How does that hurt them?

Out of touch with reality dictator Republicans took away abortion and they want to take away contraceptives and your right to vote.

Since when have any of Payne’s people cared about the poor?

Looks like Henry’s ancestors are the ones who lined the roads yelling ‘GET A HORSE!’

‘Weird switch’: Ex-GOP lawmaker says Tuberville stunt shows Republicans no longer pro-military

Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) said Friday that Sen. Tommy Tuberville’s (R-Ala.) political stunt that’s halted military promotions has flipped conventional assumptions about which political party more strongly supports the military.Kinzinger during an appearance on CNN’s “The Source with Kaitlan Collins” said he believes that Democrats are now the more “hawkish” party.

Republicans give the jet setting yacht owning rich tax breaks and make the middle class pay the rich people’s taxes.

“Poor people are blessed in more ways than one when they switch. How does that hurt them?” says a commenter above. He obviously doesn’t know many (if any at all) poor people. He’s thinking that the savings on the power bill certainly offsets the higher cost of the LED bulbs v. the lower cost incandescent bulbs. Strictly speaking, he’s correct that in the long-run money will be saved. What he does not take into consideration is that the poor live on a much thinner short-term margin. With skyrocketing rents, food prices, fuel prices (assuming they own an automobile), the calculation becomes trickier. A two or three dollar difference per bulb may not make much difference to most of us, but when that two or three dollars is another loaf of bread or another dozen eggs right now, it is a critical decision when there’s a family to be fed. That “blessing” of future energy savings when their children are hungry now isn’t much of a “blessing” at all.

The anti revolutionary republicans are trying to destroy all social gains made in the USA since the 1960’s.

When you think of a incandescent light bulb, you probably imagine this: a simple droplet of water crafted from opaque white glass, with a giant screw on the bottom, which consumes 40, 60, 75, 100, maybe 150 watts of power to light up a chunk of your home.

As of August 2023, those “normal” lightbulbs are really, truly banned from sale in the United States. You can still install and use those bulbs, but you won’t find them on shelves legally. You’ll find far more efficient LED or fluorescent bulbs instead.

This isn’t like back in 2014 when publications jumped the gun on the light bulb’s obituary — manufacturers and retailers have been on notice for a full year (pdf), and August 2023 is the month the Department of Energy will begin fully enforcing the law, suing companies that break it.

Also unlike 2014, there aren’t nearly as many loopholes. You can’t just buy a 150-watt incandescent or a three-way bulb — the ban covers any normal bulb that generates less than 45 lumens per watt, which pretty much rules out both incandescent and halogen tech in their entirety.

Except, of course, for all the not-so-normal bulbs that are excluded from the rule:

(1) Appliance lamps;

(2) Black light lamps;

(3) Bug lamps;

(4) Colored lamps;

(5) G shape lamps with a diameter of 5 inches or more as defined in ANSI C79.1-2002;

(6) General service fluorescent lamps;

(7) High intensity discharge lamps;

(8) Infrared lamps;

(9) J, JC, JCD, JCS, JCV, JCX, JD, JS, and JT shape lamps that do not have Edison screw bases;

(10) Lamps that have a wedge base or prefocus base;

(11) Left-hand thread lamps;

(12) Marine lamps;

(13) Marine signal service lamps;

(14) Mine service lamps;

(15) MR shape lamps that have a first number symbol equal to 16 (diameter equal to 2 inches) as defined in ANSI C79.1-2002, operate at 12 volts, and have a lumen output greater than or equal to 800;

(16) Other fluorescent lamps;

(17) Plant light lamps;

(18) R20 short lamps;

(19) Reflector lamps that have a first number symbol less than 16 (diameter less than 2 inches) as defined in ANSI C79.1-2002 and that do not have E26/E24, E26d, E26/50×39, E26/53×39, E29/28, E29/53×39, E39, E39d, EP39, or EX39 bases;

(20) S shape or G shape lamps that have a first number symbol less than or equal to 12.5 (diameter less than or equal to 1.5625 inches) as defined in ANSI C79.1-2002;

(21) Sign service lamps;

(22) Silver bowl lamps;

(23) Showcase lamps;

(24) Specialty MR lamps;

(25) T shape lamps that have a first number symbol less than or equal to 8 (diameter less than or equal to 1 inch) as defined in ANSI C79.1-2002, nominal overall length less than 12 inches, and that are not compact fluorescent lamps;

(26) Traffic signal lamps.

Still, none of those are normal bulbs I’d generally try to fit into a lamp.

Radish is a robot. I’d say “An AI robot”, but I see no sign of intelligence. Artificial or otherwise.

This is so true!

Lightbulbs?

Also, wouldn’t defunding public transportation budgets be closer to stealing from the poor?

I can get behind the last one.

Almost everyone has LED lights now. That’s why they are not making them anymore. Its the free market Henry.

None of them are banned. Standards of light bulbs have been raised to be more efficient (45 lumens per watt minimum). If someone can make an incandescent bulb that meets the standard, they’re welcome to manufacture and sell it.

Yes, let’s argue in favor of an energy-inefficient technology more than a century old. Sure.

Must be another of those liberal judges. Pane did not say one word about the cost of stoves. <:-)

Rich White woman making decisions for poor people and minorities…