and once again, as history which we learn not from, repeats itself as mankind seeks to destroy everything including himself due to ignorance, not surprised. MAGA folks say it always gets hot in the summer and it is just a weather cycle…kinda like that ice age thing.
So what’sa big deal. The first day of Summer will be June 20th, 2024. Wear short sleeve shirts, wear some shorts and drink plenty of water. I seem to recollect that Democrats always cry about how hot it gets during the Summer, but they’re always silent during the Winter. I believe that unhappy Democrats have a strong dislike for warm and Sunny days.
That is like the people who ban books from libraries (that haven’t been checked out since 2011) to keep children from reading them. Smart move, forbid something to keep them away from knowing about it. From the great state of Florida where dumbness can’t be out done.
Did you hear Trump’s brilliant statement that RISING oceans would create MORE beachfront property? DIFFERENT beachfront property, maybe. How will shrinking shorelines create MORE beachfront property?
The GQP could get their way, use high sulphur coal and waste motor oil in every power plant. Then as the planet is dying, crops are all extinct, they will blame it all on the “radical lefty liberals” and their cultists will believe them.
In MAGA World, you just have to butch up and deal with things you don’t like, Snowflake, they’re inevitable. Hot summers, hurricanes, gun violence, elections that don’t go your way….oops.
DeSantis – and his gop predecessors – has scrapped the state’s climate goals. – Politico
Project 2025 – the heritage foundation’s plan for a trump government – Trump and his political allies are prepared to take a sledgehammer to US climate and environmental policies. While Trump wines and dines with oil and gas executives, a proposed policy agenda put forth by dozens of right-wing organizations threatens to squander the narrow time window we have for climate action and actively fan the flames of a world on fire, climate scientists and advocates warn.Sierra Club
Google: How Republicans view climate change and energy issues
“Republicans tend to emphasize economic factors when considering climate policies. For example, 69% say a very important consideration for them in any climate policy proposal is keeping consumer costs low, and 61% say the same about increasing job and economic growth.”
You know a couple of entities that know for certain that climate change is real and they are scrambling desperately to deal with its consequences? You might have heard of them: the Pentagon and the insurance industry.
Instead of running around like Henney Penney, I’m planning on adapting. I’m amazed at the most adaptive creature on earth is refusing to change.Moved my family away from the coast and bought a hundred-acre farm inland. Everyone thought I was crazy. We’ll see who crazy in fifty years when my kid are 80% self-sufficient.
Take away the umbrella, fan and ice cubes from the non-believer. Let him stand there naked, totally exposed to the heat, humidity, and sunshine and no water for hydration.
If we end up with 95% carbon dioxide (green house gas) in our atmosphere like the planet Mars NOW has, will the earth have global warming, or minus 85 degree temp (average) like on Mars?… So which is it?
The greenhouse gases CO2 and CH4 elevate the global average temperature. Removing them lowers the average. But here is the kicker than the ignorati never seem to understand. Water vapor is the primary greenhouse gas on Earth. But unlike CO2 or methane, water vapor saturates. As the amount of water vapor at a given temperature increases, it reaches a point where it precipitates from the atmosphrere (rain and snow, ya know).
As air temperature is lowered, the water vapor in the air decreases because saturation is reached at a lower concentration of water vapor. This means that when you remove methane and CO2, which leads to cooling, more cooling happens as less water vapor is sustained. Remove enough CO2 and methane, so that the average global temperature falls to the freezing point of water, and you start forming iceball earth. Remove all CO2 and methane, and the global temperature would be -18C. Of course, the polar regions, receiving less sunlight regardless of atmospheric content, will freeze out first.
At the coldest point in the last few ice ages, the CO2 level was about 182ppm. (Its over 415 now). The temperature changes lead CO2 changes contrary to not-a-scientist Al Gore.
The temperatures fell because of lower solar insolation in the northern hemisphere. After the temperature started to fall, microbes produced less CO2. Less CO2 decreased temperatures further. More snow on the ground meant more reflected sunlight and less infrared emission.
When after tens of thousands of years, the solar insolation increased, temperature went up and so did microbe production of CO2. More CO2 helped increase the warming. Less snow on the ground meant less reflected sunlight and more infrared emission.
CO2 in the atmosphere scatters the infrared emission from the ground, distributing the energy into the atmosphere in all directions, instead of letting the energy propagate straight out to space. “Greenhouse” is an analogy, not a prescription.
As for Mars, it is so cold because the atmosphere is thin. But it got that way because its water vapor precipitated out as rain and then snow. And once the temperature is cold enough very little water vapor will form and reenter the atmosphere and virtually none will remain there for long. If we increased the CO2 in Mars atmosphere a bit more, we could get to a point where water vapor could remain in the atmosphere, and further raise the temperature. But the solar wind and the low gravity work against increasing atmospheric density. Could we have a “Green or Blue” Mars as per Kim Stanley Robinson’s books. Possibly. For human life to flourish, we would also need to get nitrogen and oxygen into the atmosphere. Oxygen is relatively easy because of all those iron oxides. Nitrogen may take more work.
Fern 12 days ago
It’s Summertime in the Northern Hemisphere.
FreyjaRN Premium Member 12 days ago
He should stick his head in the sand. It would probably bake it thoroughly.
How do you make chicken Kiev? First, preheat the city to 350F…
Concretionist 12 days ago
Is there actually still a climate change denier at large? Except for that guy in Africa of course.
Joe1962 Premium Member 12 days ago
John Kerry say it’s climate change, then he fly around the world in a privite jet.
Brockie 12 days ago
and once again, as history which we learn not from, repeats itself as mankind seeks to destroy everything including himself due to ignorance, not surprised. MAGA folks say it always gets hot in the summer and it is just a weather cycle…kinda like that ice age thing.
William Bednar Premium Member 12 days ago
I’m beginning to think that Human Intelligence is a Hoax!
moosemin 12 days ago
All because the Billionaire-Investors won’t have to part with a fraction of one percent of their profits!
robcarroll1213 12 days ago
Anyone who believes climate change is a hoax is an idiot…or a member of the GOP.
Sun 12 days ago
So what’sa big deal. The first day of Summer will be June 20th, 2024. Wear short sleeve shirts, wear some shorts and drink plenty of water. I seem to recollect that Democrats always cry about how hot it gets during the Summer, but they’re always silent during the Winter. I believe that unhappy Democrats have a strong dislike for warm and Sunny days.
tpcox928 12 days ago
Trump and his ilk still claim it is a hoax. And that Obama was not born in America to an American woman. And that the 2020 election was stolen.
James Deveney Premium Member 12 days ago
That is like the people who ban books from libraries (that haven’t been checked out since 2011) to keep children from reading them. Smart move, forbid something to keep them away from knowing about it. From the great state of Florida where dumbness can’t be out done.
We has seen the enemy 12 days ago
Here in Florida our governor made it illegal to mention it in any law/bill
davidthoms1 12 days ago
Come on Clay! You have to use the correct terms! It’s climate change, not global warming.
ShadowMaster 12 days ago
Did you hear Trump’s brilliant statement that RISING oceans would create MORE beachfront property? DIFFERENT beachfront property, maybe. How will shrinking shorelines create MORE beachfront property?
ladykat 12 days ago
Yeah, right. And the moon is made of green cheese.
Newenglandah 12 days ago
I was about to comment that the Trumpists will post something ridiculous like “The libs have discovered that it’s hot in the summer”.
Then Fern beat me to it.
SofaKing 12 days ago
Yesterday I learned that the Kentucky Coal Museum is powered by solar.
SofaKing 12 days ago
The GQP could get their way, use high sulphur coal and waste motor oil in every power plant. Then as the planet is dying, crops are all extinct, they will blame it all on the “radical lefty liberals” and their cultists will believe them.
Lord King Wazmo Premium Member 12 days ago
In MAGA World, you just have to butch up and deal with things you don’t like, Snowflake, they’re inevitable. Hot summers, hurricanes, gun violence, elections that don’t go your way….oops.
librarylady59 12 days ago
DeSantis – and his gop predecessors – has scrapped the state’s climate goals. – Politico
Project 2025 – the heritage foundation’s plan for a trump government – Trump and his political allies are prepared to take a sledgehammer to US climate and environmental policies. While Trump wines and dines with oil and gas executives, a proposed policy agenda put forth by dozens of right-wing organizations threatens to squander the narrow time window we have for climate action and actively fan the flames of a world on fire, climate scientists and advocates warn.Sierra Club
For a Just and Peaceful World 12 days ago
Google: How Republicans view climate change and energy issues
“Republicans tend to emphasize economic factors when considering climate policies. For example, 69% say a very important consideration for them in any climate policy proposal is keeping consumer costs low, and 61% say the same about increasing job and economic growth.”
piper_gilbert 12 days ago
Trust in Donald Trump. “It’s a hoax.”
Godfreydaniel 12 days ago
You know a couple of entities that know for certain that climate change is real and they are scrambling desperately to deal with its consequences? You might have heard of them: the Pentagon and the insurance industry.
thomasdadisman 12 days ago
The DeSantis says Florida is safe. He outlawed climate change there.
mac04416 12 days ago
Instead of running around like Henney Penney, I’m planning on adapting. I’m amazed at the most adaptive creature on earth is refusing to change.Moved my family away from the coast and bought a hundred-acre farm inland. Everyone thought I was crazy. We’ll see who crazy in fifty years when my kid are 80% self-sufficient.
Radish the wordsmith 12 days ago
Oh look, its Sun!
verticallychallenged Premium Member 11 days ago
MAGAt’s going to be real cozy when there’s a power blackout, and he loses the fan & ice. No water because his well needs electricity to work.
j.l.farmer 11 days ago
Take away the umbrella, fan and ice cubes from the non-believer. Let him stand there naked, totally exposed to the heat, humidity, and sunshine and no water for hydration.
thornton mellon 11 days ago
If we end up with 95% carbon dioxide (green house gas) in our atmosphere like the planet Mars NOW has, will the earth have global warming, or minus 85 degree temp (average) like on Mars?… So which is it?
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member 11 days ago
The greenhouse gases CO2 and CH4 elevate the global average temperature. Removing them lowers the average. But here is the kicker than the ignorati never seem to understand. Water vapor is the primary greenhouse gas on Earth. But unlike CO2 or methane, water vapor saturates. As the amount of water vapor at a given temperature increases, it reaches a point where it precipitates from the atmosphrere (rain and snow, ya know).
As air temperature is lowered, the water vapor in the air decreases because saturation is reached at a lower concentration of water vapor. This means that when you remove methane and CO2, which leads to cooling, more cooling happens as less water vapor is sustained. Remove enough CO2 and methane, so that the average global temperature falls to the freezing point of water, and you start forming iceball earth. Remove all CO2 and methane, and the global temperature would be -18C. Of course, the polar regions, receiving less sunlight regardless of atmospheric content, will freeze out first.
At the coldest point in the last few ice ages, the CO2 level was about 182ppm. (Its over 415 now). The temperature changes lead CO2 changes contrary to not-a-scientist Al Gore.
The temperatures fell because of lower solar insolation in the northern hemisphere. After the temperature started to fall, microbes produced less CO2. Less CO2 decreased temperatures further. More snow on the ground meant more reflected sunlight and less infrared emission.
When after tens of thousands of years, the solar insolation increased, temperature went up and so did microbe production of CO2. More CO2 helped increase the warming. Less snow on the ground meant less reflected sunlight and more infrared emission.
CO2 in the atmosphere scatters the infrared emission from the ground, distributing the energy into the atmosphere in all directions, instead of letting the energy propagate straight out to space. “Greenhouse” is an analogy, not a prescription.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member 11 days ago
As for Mars, it is so cold because the atmosphere is thin. But it got that way because its water vapor precipitated out as rain and then snow. And once the temperature is cold enough very little water vapor will form and reenter the atmosphere and virtually none will remain there for long. If we increased the CO2 in Mars atmosphere a bit more, we could get to a point where water vapor could remain in the atmosphere, and further raise the temperature. But the solar wind and the low gravity work against increasing atmospheric density. Could we have a “Green or Blue” Mars as per Kim Stanley Robinson’s books. Possibly. For human life to flourish, we would also need to get nitrogen and oxygen into the atmosphere. Oxygen is relatively easy because of all those iron oxides. Nitrogen may take more work.
AtomicForce91 Premium Member 11 days ago
Summer can be brutal.