Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for January 22, 2013

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    Linguist  almost 12 years ago

    Yippee ! Before the day is over, someone will turn this into a political diatribe. But before that happens, the thought of Mike as a grandfather is terrific !

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    trspence  almost 12 years ago

    WOW!!!

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    annieb1012  almost 12 years ago

    Ha! I wondered when the next generation would arrive on the scene. This should be good. Bit of a rough road, perhaps, but good.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  almost 12 years ago

    Silly me, I didn’t know “glowing” was medically diagnostic of a pregnancy. Does hubby-daddy Toggle know yet?

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    annieb1012  almost 12 years ago

    @Linguist " …the thought of Mike as a grandfather is terrific !"*Yes, and Kim as Grandma (!!!) is, too. Toggle’s and Alex’s moms? Interesting.

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    annieb1012  almost 12 years ago

    Good night, all.

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    margueritem  almost 12 years ago

    Hooray!

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    arye uygur  almost 12 years ago

    We need to make a family tree of the characters who are blood relatives to each other.

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    ChocolateLady  almost 12 years ago

    Mazal Tov!

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    YatInExile  almost 12 years ago

    Ho. Ly. Crap.

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    Rodney99  almost 12 years ago

    I lived in Nevada for two years. “Glowing” was NOT something you wanted to be.

    Hint: both women AND men were susceptible to this condition.

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    roctor  almost 12 years ago

    Which is worst? The10 billion people or the suport system?

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    kjhudlow Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    Shouldn’t Alex finish college and have something of a career first??!! Why is she having a baby right off the bat?! Wasting her life.

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    SlyMongoose  almost 12 years ago

    Yay! Twins!

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    celeconecca  almost 12 years ago

    OMG – more characters to remember…

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    vwdualnomand  almost 12 years ago

    wow, twins. is there some truth about twins, that one is evil and other is good? or, that they have their own language. or, that they feel the other’s pain.

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    rasalom  almost 12 years ago

    @Linguist It’s Obama’s/Bush’s fault!!!

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    IncognitoPenguin  almost 12 years ago

    Hey..wouldn’t a great arc be that we get the same panel as above tomorrow…only with Mike and Kim? :)

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    spooked wolf  almost 12 years ago

    Returning to the comic strip itself: Remember a few months ago how Alex wanted to have a nose more like her BFF than her dad’s? Well what I noticed was not so much a glow as a shorter, slightly less angular nose. So I thought her announcement would be about the schnoz, not a pregnancy.

    Also: TWINS??? How are they going to raise them, broke as they are? Egads.

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    JAPrufrock  almost 12 years ago

    Unfortunately Linguist is correct. Come on GT, stop procreating.

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    SusanCraig  almost 12 years ago

    what you say? with a name like litter box filler? I don’t get it…

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    Kip W  almost 12 years ago

    Another tragic copy and paste accident. When will people realize the dangers of a full clipboard?

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    JAPrufrock  almost 12 years ago

    The world can’t support the population it has now, never mind the future inexorable increase. All major ecosystems are being degraded at an increasing rate and it is just a matter of time before there is a total gaian collapse. Oh well, it’s been a fun ride. The short happy life of the human race.

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    cdward  almost 12 years ago

    You…have…got….to….be…kidding.

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    Gokie5  almost 12 years ago

    Wowsie! I’m happy for Alex and Leo (yes, I know it’s just a comic). However, if she’s anything like me she’d be the opposite of “glowing” during the second and third months. (Maybe she is past that now.) On another note, the twins’ other biological grandpa is Leo’s anonymous father, member of a rock group. They may be really talented little buggers.

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    IamUnique1  almost 12 years ago

    Forgive me, I haven’t been keeping up. I take it this revelation was unexpected? I’m not even sure who the father is meant to be, perhaps anonymous sperm donor and conception was via IVF?

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    l-empress68  almost 12 years ago

    When I started reading Doonesbury, Mike and DB were still in college. One of us is getting old.

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    gaebie  almost 12 years ago

    STOP!!! Lets think this out..Knowing GT, and this strip, is “glowing” and “twins” really about Alex being pregnant (and can she really know it’s twins at this stage?) Or is this reference to something else and a new story line?

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    mikenisson69  almost 12 years ago

    The thought of Alex getting all maternal makes me gag . . . all downhill from here . . .

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    Squoop  almost 12 years ago

    FYI – JJ is Alex’s Mom, not Kim.

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    jmiel628  almost 12 years ago

    Oh snap, boys, girls, or both?

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    Rickapolis  almost 12 years ago

    I remember asking my wife once if a local newscaster didn’t look a little different. A few days later she announced she was pregnant. I still laugh a little at that one.

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    summerdog86  almost 12 years ago

    And just where are these twins going to fit in the trailer?

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    montessoriteacher  almost 12 years ago

    GT had twins as well as a singleton in his own family. Of course, they are all grown up now. They say it can be an inherited trait. Maybe one of GT’s own kids is having twins? Or wishful thinking on the part of GT?

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    montessoriteacher  almost 12 years ago

    “Glowing” is a rather old-fashioned term for pregnant. I preferred that one over “blooming.”

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    corzak  almost 12 years ago

    Here’s an excellent overview of the population issue:National Geographic: Population 7 BillionYes, fertility rates are declining. Young women – given access to education and birth control – behave with sanity and have far fewer children. And I think many (most?) species have a deep instinct to slow reproduction “when the pond is full.”Nevertheless, the momentum will continue for a couple of decades. And as the Nat Geo article points out, some problems, like climate change, are no longer affected by population numbers.

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    babka Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    :0)

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    ronpolimeni  almost 12 years ago

    And then you have the “Christian” type who don’t believe in any sort of contraception who have 23 kids, have grandchildren older than their youngest kids and own a bus to haul them around.

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    pearlsarefuzzy  almost 12 years ago

    WTG! Congrats, Alex and Jeff!

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    kaffekup   almost 12 years ago

    Stay calm; I think Alexander was being satirical. The last sentence was the clue: “How’s that? That should get it going…”

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    Digbe O'Dell  almost 12 years ago

    Congrats to Mr. Trudeau for the introduction of the third generation of our beloved characters!

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    annieb1012  almost 12 years ago

    @DTPi “Daddy Mike’s 0.01%er $$$” Did you mean “1%”?

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    Llywus  almost 12 years ago

    Cool, another generation! I wonder if Alex’ twins will be quite as “precocious” as she was.

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    pawpawbear  almost 12 years ago

    A good conservation. I agree that the environment is in a bad way. However, we here in the good ole USA have done an awful lot to make our air and water better. But, we have a long way to go. We need to be energy independent but we need to keep working on the environment. I saw and shared an article, on my Facebook page, that exemplifies the dilemna(sp) we are in. While our cities are gaining on air and water quality the citizens of western North Dakota are wrecking the water tables with fracking and the air as they burn off valuable natural gas. This is actually happening all over the country. Wyoming and Pennsylvania come to mind. I have lost family members to cancers that could have been prevented. It is a terrible way to die and, as I said, avoidable. I do not know all the answers and I hope there are people who can solve these problems. OK rant font off.>>We really must have put Tucci out. Haven’t seen him today.

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    pawpawbear  almost 12 years ago

    OH, the article came from NPR.

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    kaffekup   almost 12 years ago

    ‘Will the war vet chap be able to cope.’We all hope so; and with the way he’s dealt with TBI and having ditzy Alex as a bride, I’m sure he will be just fine.

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    unca jim  almost 12 years ago

    No sense even remarking here..The crowd’s getting too loud and boisterous.

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    montessoriteacher  almost 12 years ago

    At 6 week ultrasound appointment, you can find out if you are having twins. Maybe even earlier, if they have another special test nowadays…

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    DylanThomas3.14159  almost 12 years ago

    “I suspect that long before 2050 such die backs will have already happened. It could wreck our societies.”

    As the Nile river, and especially its delta, expanded during “wet centuries”, ancient Egyptian population expanded to match. As it shrank during “dry centuries”, the population shrank to match.

    Other peoples elsewhere — one in South America, another in North — either went extinct or migrated (and became lost to pre-history) such that nothing of them remains except the pre-historic archaeological artifacts.

    Economists demand “growth” for their models. But if historical / anthropologic archaeology tells us anything, it says that biology trumps economics.

    Back in my “journalism daze” I interviewed Stanford University Professor Paul R. Ehrlich who had just published his best-selling POPULATION BOMB (1968). I was convinced he was right and reviewed it in a magazine with a circulation of 400,000.

    In successive years, after his predicted bomb failed to explode on time, the economists roared. He was wrong! He was Uncle Stupidhead.

    Prez Ronnie RayGun told us it was Morning in America! If ya’ve seen one redwood tree, ya’ve seen ’em all. Cut ’em down! Sell the lumber to Japan for obscene profits! Economic growth will accelerate till the Lord Comes! Which is just around the corner!

    But as far as I can tell, Ehrlich made only two mistakes. (1) His predicted catastrophic population reduction too soon. And (2) he failed to predict that in highly developed industrial societies, such as that of northwestern Europe, repro rates would tank.

    But now that global warming is weighing in, Prof. Ehrlich is looking more and more like Prof. Einstein.

    The planet, with its fragile ecosystems, is only so big. The BIG BUS can only carry so many people. No matter how many multinational mega-giga-tera corps there are employing how many wage-slaves.

    BIOLOGY TRUMPS ECONOMICS.

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    annieb1012  almost 12 years ago

    @DTPi Okay, good thinking. Now, can you fill me in as to how we know Mike and Kim are wealthy? I suppose it depends on the meaning of “wealthy,” which is variable with where you live, among other things, but I’ve somehow missed the “wealth” piece as it relates to them.

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    annieb1012  almost 12 years ago

    @gmartin I agree with you that in poverty, physical beauty often seems to fade fast, while those with more money can “buy” more “time.” I’m just wondering where Mike and Kim fall in the overall spectrum, or more specifically, whether Trudeau has given us any information about their income level. I’m also pondering how “wealthy” is defined in general.

    They are both white-collar professionals in the tech industry; so I would assume they’d be pulling down decent salaries. But huge salaries? Any reason to think so?

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    Cofyjunky  almost 12 years ago

    Sorry, but all I got from that was the BAD grammar. “…has made me a better noticer…” WTH?? Shouldn’t it be “…has made me more observant…” ?Trudeau needs to hire on a pro proof-reader.

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    kaffekup   almost 12 years ago

    Basically, they went out on their own years ago, and have very nice home with a view of the mountains near Seattle, so they must be relatively successful. Kid in MIT, no student debt…Don’t know about .1%, though.

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    kaffekup   almost 12 years ago

    Whatever she says HAS to be smarter than anything you’ve EVER said.

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    edonline  almost 12 years ago

    I wonder if the pregnancy and birth will happen in real time or comic strip time.

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    fritzoid Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    This is pure speculation, but I’ve imagined Mike to be higher than 1%, but lower than 0.1%. He probably CONSIDERS himself to be (upper) Middle Class, and not “rich.” Bernie’s “rich.”

    For one thing, however nice his home is, he doesn’t appear to need domestic help…

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    annieb1012  almost 12 years ago

    @DTPi Exactly what I was looking for, thanks.

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    lindz.coop Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    Unfortunately, So True!!

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    lindz.coop Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    Re the comic: O..M..G!! Too Funny :)

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    localhost  almost 12 years ago

    Didn’t see THAT coming!

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    Hunter7  almost 12 years ago

    cool.. new story arc. upcoming new characters. even if it will take a while…. more fun..and yeah, family tree time should be coming up soon. In a few months. After the twins are born.

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    gkid  almost 12 years ago

    Alex needs to consider getting a new hairdo….this is not becoming to her. At all. Could we get something more flattering forher? I am very happy for her and her young husband, theyare my favorite characters. But it hurts to look at her hair.

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    Alexander the Good Enough  almost 12 years ago

    Whee! What fun! In truth, population politics is an issue that is much too complex and fraught to get a proper airing in such an ephemeral forum as this. Still, thanks to all, even the occasional troll.

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    Tigrita  almost 12 years ago

    @Arye Uygur Have you ever counted the number of grandparents and step-step-grandparents Alex has? Daisy D. and a mysterious father from Mike, Joanie, Clinton, and Rick from JJ, Kim’s adoptive and birth parents, Zeke’s mother and multiple stepfathers… of course, she doesn’t know most of them, but that is truly a ridiculous amount.

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