Frazz by Jef Mallett for June 01, 2022

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    Concretionist  over 2 years ago

    I see what Mallett is up to.

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    MichaelAxelFleming  over 2 years ago

    Someone told me that they had a sentence that ended with five prepositions. It was a child’s question regarding the choice of an Australia travelogue as a bedtime story: “Mommy, why did you bring that book about Down Under up for?”

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    Cactus-Pete  over 2 years ago

    Relating negatives and prepositions is not anything anyone would think of.

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    MeanBob Premium Member over 2 years ago

    Couldn’t remember the word "Imperative Jef? Just teasing. You’re only allowed to end a sentence like that with a question mark if you’re Irish.

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    sandpiper  over 2 years ago

    Now this one is interesting. Churchill was once corrected for ending a sentence with a preposition. He supposedly replied, This is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put. If he didn’t say it, it’s still his style of put-down.

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    Doug K  over 2 years ago

    What he’s doing she’s on to. She knows what he’s up to. It’s not nothing but she won’t not “punish” him by playing his game his way.

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    Ignatz Premium Member over 2 years ago

    This ridiculous “rule” started because there was a time when grammarians thought English should conform to Latin grammar. Which is (see Winston Churchill’s remark two posts above).

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    just-ducky  over 2 years ago

    Who else is sick of grammar rules? I know I’m

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    shawnc1959  over 2 years ago

    An old joke … An MIT linguistics professor was lecturing his class the other day. “In English,” he said, “a double negative forms a positive. However, in some languages, such as Russian, a double negative remains a negative. But there isn’t a single language, not one, in which a double positive can express a negative.” A voice from the back of the room piped up, “Yeah, right.”

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    trainnut1956  over 2 years ago

    I ain’t got no…. satisfaction….

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    ewaldoh  over 2 years ago

    Ok, slightly better than two weeks of dissecting paradoxes.

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    John Niessink Premium Member over 2 years ago

    A double negative is NOT essentially a positive – except in algebra. In English grammar, negatives are cumulative.

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    rshive  over 2 years ago

    This is something up with which I will not put.

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    snowedin, now known as Missy's mom  over 2 years ago

    Clever.

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    The Brooklyn Accent Premium Member over 2 years ago

    “Put up,” “stress out,” and “whiff off” (euphemism for “piss off”?) are either phrasal verbs or verbs followed by adverbs; “up,” “out,” and “off” are not being used as prepositions in those cases.

    But as others have already commented, the English rule against ending sentences with prepositions was invented by 17th century pedants based on a false parallelism with Latin and is now as much a source of humor as it is a serious concern of writers and editors.

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    Ubermick  over 2 years ago

    Ahh, there’s our little precocious, gifted, angel. Running off to his best mate the Janitor, looking for consolation that his admitted attempts at harassing his teacher didn’t work.

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    Stephen Gilberg  over 2 years ago

    Strictly speaking, in this context, “up,” “out,” and “off” are adverbs, not prepositions.

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    gbcadj  over 2 years ago

    One of my major pet peeves is that of the professionals in the media leaving hanging prepositions at the end of sentences.

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    AndrewSihler  over 2 years ago

    Those are adverbs, not prepositions. Even if actual prepositions were at stake, that “rule” was invented out of nothing by John Dryden in 1672. Nobody had heard of such a thing prior to that, and H. W. Fowler, in his magisterial Modern English Usage of 1926, skewers the “rule” as a “cherished superstition”.

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    ncrist  over 2 years ago

    up with, out over, off at. oho

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    Bilan  over 2 years ago

    Some people claim that the only reason for the objection to ending a a sentence with a preposition is because it’s forbidden in Latin.

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    MITZI  over 2 years ago

    Jef Mallett: It’s an impossibility, but you get more clever every day.

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    MT Wallet   over 2 years ago

    Ending a sentence with a preposition is not something up with which I would put.

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    PoochFan  over 2 years ago

    Someone said, “Two negatives make a positive, but two positives don’t make a negative.” And the reply to that is, “Yeah. Right!”

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    Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo]  over 2 years ago

    -1 + -1 = -2

    -1 – (-1) = 0

    negative energy squared is still negative.

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    soaringblocks  over 2 years ago

    you just gotta love English to enjoy this. And I do.

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    DaBump Premium Member over 2 years ago

    Oooh, yes! It’s GRAMMAR FUN day!

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