Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for October 29, 2015

End of a relationship

Quill’s right — she never needed to go to drama camp!

Yes, all about Luann and no one else. Though flights and hotel to NYC at Christmas is expensive as hell. Especially since Luann is waiting till the last minute. Wish I had that kind of spare change when I was their age.

Luann’s parents’ wants is getting on Luann’s nerves (riiiiiight)

‘Almost’ is a big, tiring step.

Thinking counts.

Quill’s right. The trip should go on hold. Parents come first.

this matter is very prudent, this is probably the thing that is gonna tear apart their relationship.

Everyone immediately jumps on Luann for being self-centered. Gee, like that is a big surprise with a teenager slowly growing into a young adult!! Lets see how this arc works out before jumping to conclusions about her, or about the relationship. I think the relationship will weather any issue, and somehow both things will occur eventually, New York, and the theater. I suggest withholding judgment. After all the strip is about Luann and Luannverse.

Quill has not said he agreed to do it, if he did without asking Luann first that would be wrong, since he had a commitment to go to NYC.

Luann wanted her chance to be a big girl on her own with her guy. Sure it’s a disappointment.

BFD, chickie-poo…

So they’ll go for spring break, if they make it that far. No biggie. Luann didn’t even plan the trip yet, and it would probably be too late anyway. She should have done that a month ago. So…she has nothing. Fuse it is.

Well you know the saying: “planning is half of the fun of the travel”. At least that’s what my travel agent always tells me.

Quill immediately realizes the need to step up. Luann…not so much. Very telling.

New poll up: What will Quill pick?

Will Bernice mother-hen Piro?1) 17 votes – No.2) 17 votes – Yes, but should she?3) 16 votes – Other.4) 11 votes – Yes.4) 8 votes – No, but should she?Other: Obviously; i picked all four; Bernice deserves better than that loser; No, but she’ll nibble his ear…; If she wants to be a councilor, Bernice needs to work on her boundaries; Hopefully, Piro will get real help , since he seems to have issues; I think she’ll try, but it won’t change Piro in the least; She’ll try, but will fall for him; Only if he lets her; Yeah… in some arc two months from now when we completely forget about it; I hope not! She needs a love interest. We need to see something sweet happen; Piro looks like someone in need of a good, steady friend like Bernice; She needs to date him!!!!!!!!!; She may try, but he won’t let her; No she’ll marry and “fix” him; No… she will hen peck him

“We HAVE to HELP Your Parents” Pretty-Boy?WHY Exactly? Because They SAID So?What’s Next, Postponing the Wedding Night to Help Frank Clean out the grease trap??Geeze THIS Milk-Sop Rolls Over Quickly.And Some Folks around here Think that Gunther is Spineless…..,

Oh good grief!

Luann is showing her immaturity again. I think maybe she leads/has led too sheltered a life….

In so many ways she’s still just a child.

I’m loving the fact that they’re having an argument while made up as zombies. That’s got to be fun to draw.

“Hope On A Rope”“The I In Idea”“Think Tanked”“It Was Just My Imagination” (♪)“Making Our My Dreams Come True..” (♫)“It Was The Best Of Times..It Was The Rehearsed Of Times…”“Me-ing Is Believing”“Go, Yay Me!”“The Windmills Of Your Mind”“The Ele-mental Of Surprise”or“A Head Start”

In a relationship both parties have to consult eachother about changes of plans. If you dont the other party will resent the change, no matter how obvious or sensible it is……….

This could get ugly. Oh wait it already is – those costumes do not become them!

“Screaming Me-Me!”^And when you hear her, you may go: “Oh, My!!!” – And so many possible references, too: – Could also be a nice tie-in to the helecopter in the old show “Riptide”! – Or a reference to the old “artillery slinger”..

Or a “Marvel-ous” reference to the “aka” for her as “Songbird”…

Cleavage! Luann’s showing cleavage!

Neither one has done any planning except for Luann saving for the trip to New York. She is reacting to disappointment, but New York would be better during Easter break anyhow. I don’t believe they will go then either.

Fight .. welcome to a real relationship. Communication here is the Key. Sounds like these 2 need to do more of it.

In the strip in that arc, she chose to forego a trip to NY to pursue what she loves, and not as a “prerequisite” to “working hard” on saving up and going to NY.

This child is an annoying brat

This strip is before the strip where she suggested their “saving money” would afford them a trip to NY. She primarily cared about the doing of the work, and the “saving up” was only a “second” (bonus) benefit… –

The way she is acting her and Tiff could be BFFs

Looks like Luann has turned the corner and is truly and adult female now – she makes no sense whatsoever. So long forever, childhood and common sense………

Back off, Luann

Everyone is calling her selfish but I think it’s more selfish to agree to something without talking to your significant other when you already have plans. He didn’t give her a choice, just decided for them.

“Frank’s dream. We don’t know what Nancy’s dream is.”^As with most (happily) married couples, Frank’s dream is the same as Nancy’s dream. – If Nancy wasn’t “on board” with using their savings (of course not counting the outside investment money), she would have made sure Frank knew.. for sure… she is polite and tactful, but she doesn’t seem to play when it comes to things such as her money… –

“So because she enjoyed the work, saving money doesn’t count as hard work?”^You left out the key part of what I (according to the dialogue in that strip) was saying… she chose to work there, for the love of the job. The “saving money” part came to her as a bonus “flash of inspiration”. Sure, saving money is work. But it doesn’t mean that it was her primary motivation for that job. We also don’t know if she was easily just “setting this sum aside”, or if she really had to “scrounge”. It’s not to put down the first thing, but the degree of her “saving up” could be really telling as to the point of “hard work”. – Or to put it this way: You stated that it “only takes 15 min. to ‘make a reservation’” (paraphrasing). Well, to apply it to this point, what if it didn’t “take much” for her to save up?

“Have you followed this strip lately? They’ve done no planning whatsoever.”^

“Again, this was not Nancy’s idea, she’s just along for the ride. Not once did Frank ever say “This is my idea…but do you have any ideas?”. It was “this is my idea, and I’m selling it as our idea by using the word ‘us’”.

^And again, the key point (as told in her expression in the aforementioned strips) lets us know that she is okay with all of this. She again seems to be the type to let you know when she doesn’t want to do something. She’s not one to “mince words” when it comes to her family. She easily puts Luann in her place. She lets Toni know (at that time) that she isn’t “too fond” of her (though after the engagement, Toni and she were able to “hash it out”). She expresses to Frank how she’d like him to “take better care of himself”, among other things. -And again , like most happily married couples, the two can “take turns” spearheading an endeavor. The point is, it doesn’t matter who originated the idea of that particular dream or endeavor, they both embark upon it together. Nancy seems to be the quintissential example of this.

this is getting ugly. ;) (zombies)

“Unless she’s working for free, she’s not there “for the love of the job”. She enjoys it and that’s a bonus, but it’s still work.”^Read the strip again. She says she’s there for “the love of the job”. For the passion she has for that line of work. – “Doesn’t matter, still counts as work, and still makes her statement valid. Saving isn’t easy, just look at America’s financial state for proof…. She did it for months, which is more than we can say for anyone else when it comes to planning.”^Read again, what I said: _". Sure, saving money is work. But it doesn’t mean that it was her primary motivation for that job. We also don’t know if she was easily just “setting this sum aside”, or if she really had to “scrounge”. It’s not to put down the first thing, but the degree of her “saving up” could be really telling as to the point of “hard work”. _^The original point you brought up has to do with “how hard is it to make a reservation?”. Now look at the final part of my response: Or to put it this way: You stated that it “only takes 15 min. to ‘make a reservation’” (paraphrasing). Well, to apply it to this point, what if it didn’t “take much” for her to save up?" . – Your original point was to contend that it wasn’t hard work to make a phone call for a reservation. People work as logistics and booking agents, and also some have built websites and the like for such a thing. So if you want to say that any saving of money is hard work, wouldn’t it follow reason to have to change your original statement, saying that “making a reservation isn’t hard work”?

“If your wife said “Hey, my dream is to go to Egypt”, and you go, would I be correct in saying that you got to live out your dream of going to Egypt? I don’t think so. It’s not YOUR dream, it’s hers.”^Yes, because that’s what being married is about. “Partners For Life, Partners In Life”. – We just recently purchased a car. It wasn’t the particular car I was looking for. And though it was purchased at the place that I also wanted to get it from, it wasn’t done with the particular plan I had in mind, to acquire it. However, it is the car that we ended up with. It is the car that we share. I ended up “naming” our car, and also find no reason to complain, as we use that car to share our “happy travels” together. – We find “our place” in the other’s dream. It’s just like getting on a swing set, or going down the slide as kids. You “take turns”, and find “more happiness in giving, than receiving” (a quote from the Bible).

She IS being a little “b” here, but it’s the first time in a long while that she’s being entertaining. Personally, I welcome it.

“If you’re trying to prove that Frank likes to pawn work off onto his wife while he goofs off, you’re doing a great job. Happily married!”^The point of that strip wasn’t to expose Frank’s goofy way of trying to muddle through that task. It was to show that it is implausible to think that they had no idea of the preparation involved, as during that week, Frank and Nancy pored over the various documents and organizational methods needed in this endeavor….

“isn’t it obvious, Nancy’s “dream” is Frank!”^Ha ha! And true, in many ways!

Quill refers to roomS. Luann is thinking of one room. .That is her primary interest in NY. Not the Statue of Liberty.

She and Hilary Forth need to be room mates.

Luann has always been full of failings. We know them well.They have been the source of much of the humor in the strip..Bernice has had fewer failings, but quite a few. Sarcasm, jealousy, mindless over enthusiasm, etc..Delta had failings (loud, boisterous, etc.), but with the need for political correctness, they all disappeared after a few years and she became Miss Altruism..Knute has many failings, some weird, but they seem forgivable.

Aaron seemed perfect, but his failings became evident. Quill had some failings, but not anymore. None since Karen came aboard..Gunther had a few more or less forgivable failings like shyness, but recently he went cranky and at times obnoxious.Rosa had no failings, but went weird.

Tiffany has had terrible failings (seeming to center on vanity), but we are hoping to find out _why,_ and maybe forgive her a bit.

Dirk had horrible failings, but seemed to reform almost magically.

T.J. has real failings in the area of honesty, but not so bad otherwise.

Brad was a horrible slob, but came out of it. Toni had a few failings, but we don’t see them any more.

Shannon has a lot of failings, but we know why (her age and her parentage) and can judge her kindly.

Thank you!

It’s all about Luann, because…um…the comic is called “Luann”.

Implausible….. when you stated: “Let’s see if Quill promises to make out with her in a closet to calm her down.” … it caught me by surprise and I guffawed and dropped my pipe out of my mouth and into my lap. You owe me for the cleaning bill (jk)! :)Seriously though, that comment made me think back to the previous time they had a disagreement of this sort… and it really does seems a bit of a pattern. Maybe it is a milder version of what some couples refer to as “Make-Up Sex”?

_ “Was it your dream or not?”_^(Sigh.) When you get married, your partner’s dreams become yours. It becomes like “suddenly becoming a pair of conjoined twins”. Two minds, two hearts…" one flesh" (another Bible quote). – Or like a business. Sure, one is the partner with all the savvy business acumen. The other is the one with “all the right connections”. One says: Let’s go with providing this product. The other says: “No, I’d rather go with this one”. Months (or years) later, they went ahead with the idea of the first one. They both get the credit. Why? Because they went into business, together . The same with marriage. Most people are familiar with the maxim “Together we stand, divided we fall”. It’s the together part that keeps businesses and marriages going. You become a partner in life. Blondie had all the bright ideas. Dagwood had… well… Blondie. But in the end, they both take credit and share . My wife’s dream is my dream. My wife’s pain is my pain. My wife’s tears become my tears. My wife’s laughter “infects” me and becomes my laughter. Again, when you get married, it’s no more “I, me, mine”. It’s ours .

I still don’t get why they can’t do both. A winter break between college semesters is several weeks. They can’t be planning to be gone all that time. Luann is once again being spoiled and not thinking clearly.

For those who are taking Luann to task for being ‘self centered’ in wanting that vacation, you need to remember that anyone who has counted on a vacation would be very unhappy to be told that it has to be postponed. That’s not being self-centered. That’s called ‘being disappointed.’

And as far as Quill’s comment about how hard her parents have worked to make this warehouse into a theater, seems as if most of the work has been done by ‘Mr Gray’s associates’….

Nancy’s “dream” is Frank, eh? Well at least once or twice a week, I ask my wife if she would rather have “plain-old, fur-faced me” or some “Fabio-esque” person I see on the street or on television. Very graciously and kindly, she always chooses me. :) I am thankful.

Implausible said, 27 minutes ago@LDoverRosa had no failings

Rosa planned a trip to help her uncle without ever asking what exactly her uncle did. She also thinks that picking up sticks is helping, rather then getting an education in something useful. . . . -——————————————-Yes, that’s what I meant when I said:“Rosa had no failings, but went weird.”.She seemed quite reasonable all the way through High School. .Her actions afterward (chucking Yale for Peru, not finding out anything about her uncle’s work in Peru, living rather oddly with Gunther in the hotel for a month, then staying on in a remote village to pick up sticks, etc.) were to me totally WEIRD — not at all in keeping with the image we had had of her in High School.

Shouldn’t Quill have had in hand some preparations for New York, or was his NY sponsor arranging that? .I don’t think that he was going independently.

C’mon Buckaroo!! ELABORATE!! Don’t make me play the Muse Ex Douchina card on you!! Have I used the word “trope” lately? I guess I should.

Motel 7, they’ll turn the light out for you.

That would be “Motel 6…”

I know…. “Inflation.” ;-PPP

NY in winter?

This relationship is over

I’m hoping they will soon realize how funny they look arguing w/ their faces painted up… and then start laughing.

you’ve booked “rooms” ? that pretty much sums up Quill’s take on heterosexuality

That should be “flights and A room.”

Luann has a point. Sooner or later, Quill has to decide where his relationship with Luann ranks in priority relative to everything else in his life. Right now, it’s after everything else. Luann has a relationship with him, but he is not having a relationship with her. So their relationship is not relating.

She’s worked so hard her teeth are falling out!

“we keep each other grounded in the fact that we discuss things before we (or one of us) just jumps and does something we might regret later.”^Right on the button!!!

Uh-oh.

Luann, you are making Prudence look good.

“Luann’s reacting to the surprise of it more than anything.”^While I do agree that Quill could find some alternate methods to help her come around, and though I’m also sure she’d feel good about helping her parents out, I really think that she’d rather have “taken the trip”, if allowed the choice (probably with the hope by her that somehow, her parents could find a way to do the opening without her help, and also hoping that no “shred of evidience” pops up to indicate such)….

The caption/comment from today’s Luann FB page:

“Reality check: young adults may not plan at the same level that they dream”

I don’t want to take sides but these two have been serious for a while now, its time for them to realize their priorities. Quill wants to be an actor and Luann wants to be a teacher (probably), they need to figure things out.

I disagree that Luann being immature is the premise of the strip. Granted, there are some plotlines that involve her being immature, but far from all of them. She couldn’t have been appointed lead teacher at the day camp from being immature.

First off, thank you! – Secondly, yes, we discuss courses of action. I know this may infuriate some, but I appreciate the Bible’s mentioning about “sitting down to calculate the cost of a tower before setting out to build it”, so as to be able to plan it out and not have to “abandon” in the middle of it, which would make one look foolish. Also it mentions sitting down for “confidential talk”, the key to planning and getting to know another’s feelings. – However, I wasn’t trying to validate not doing so, in speaking of what Quill was saying. I was just pointing out the fact that Quill had already decided inside, but even furhter, that he was trying to persuade his GF to see the benefit in postponing the NY trip to help her parents (a tactful way to get a “win win”), though Luann had not seen this yet….she is disappointed in having her “expectations postponned” (another quote), so it hasn’t “sunk in”, yet, that he’s not. He’s trying to “adjust the plans” so that all can benefit from the arrangement/plans, not just two. As Spock would say: “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”….

So, in essence, he is still planning with her, trying to reason on the matter, which is different from being arbitrary. – Also of note, a strip posted above shows Luann doing the same thing to Quill’s earlier plan of going to NY with him in the summer as he interned, asking if he would mind if she “changed the plan”, so to speak, so as to take her summer intern assignment. So, in reality, she “changed the plans” first, and now he is also attempting to change the plans. Her change had to do with her internship, and now his wanting to change has to do with her parents’ opportunity. She may have forgotten about that little fact….

Luann: Why don’t I care?

“I think Quill is remarkably mature. Some call that boring.”^’I guess everyone else will have their own take on it, but I don’t find Quill’s maturity to be boring. It’s as MJ used to put it, he’s…. too perfect. He seemed to have no reaction to other characters, and always seemed to go along with anything Luann would do, and would never seem to offer Luann any sort of “no, this isn’t right to do” counsel (as he seems to do more of, now). I used to call him Qcumber, and another (Brd?) referred to him as a "cardboard cutout, for similar reasons. When Tiffany tried to "woo’ him at the Drama Camp, he was a little too “nonchalant” in turning down her advances, waiting until just before the play went on stage finally say for her to stop, and then when he did it, it was by yelling for her to stop . He seemed to not even “flinch with any sort of dislike” whenever Tiffany even flirted. He seemed more of a “background/standing silhouette” character, than a “feature” character. But lately, there seems to be a little more “dimension” to his overall character….

You’re so right about sticking with an auto dealer that does you right! With a grocery store, you might put up with this thing or that, as a trade off to purchasing cheaper, or the quality you want- but with a 2 ton (or more) vehicle (especially for what you pay for one), you need that service that gets you your title, etc., and that you can go back to when issues arise. There’s a few on Route 1 and Route 202 (somewhere near that intersection, on the way to Pennsylvania) that is reputable in that way, as a few others (like maybe Jones or a couple of others). Same thing goes with auto mechanics. You always end up liking the one, and the others are like: “Meh”… – But in this case, we got our car from an auto auction. The trade off for us was that we got it at a price that we wanted, though I would have liked to have “shaved off” a few more dollars (try couple hundred). I wanted to wait for a later time, but she was ready to do it sooner, so I went ahead and looked for a couple of places to go, and the one we chose had advantages over the others (the one big one being the engine was tested and guaranteed to run!)….

Yup! There is a “lodge” with the number 8! But switch that name to “Super 8”…

“Darn, I bet I’ve offended someone again!”^Ha ha ha!!!

“Be a fighter for what you believe in.”^Well, I do at least try to be! Though there’s something to be said too for “a time to keep quiet and a time to speak”. My wife will tell you, I’m passionate about what I believe to be right, and I don’t like to see people being mistreated, and will speak up about things, but I’m also “dual natured” in the fact that it takes a lot to get me riled up. She’ll also tell you that I’m the kind of person who is the “eye in the hurricane”. My usual M.O. is to try to be the “voice of reason” when someone gets flustered or upset, and to try to put forth the method of not hastily taking an action or be too quick to react, until you’ve either gotten all the facts and thought the situation through, or until time has proven someone or something to be untrue. And also to make sure to find a tactful way to speak of the matter, first and foremost (though as we all know, there are many out there who make it such a temptation to not be so tactful). – It’s funny that on both sides of my family and my wife’s, are both the “even tempered” side, and the “Oh, no you did-nt!” side, Lol! – As far as “bosses and bureaucrats” go, though, I usually have to “take those cases upstairs”…where there’s better resources to handle it, than I could…

Ha ha!!!! – But truth be told, I remember how Greg himself called the character “boring” (according to the oft-quoted article in the San Diego Union Tribune). That is why he initially had Quill’s dad to call him to go back to Australia that first time. He was “doomed” to the volcano, right along with Aaron Hill. The article also explained the reasoning as to how it was decided to bring him back (as Luann’s eventual “permanent suitor”, or at least a long term relationship, a suggestion by Karen,)… to signify Luann’s growing up process

Yes! No matter how gruff, I would appreciate his skills- as long as he has knowledge about my particular make and model, and knows what to do and when to do it, and will be fair and reasonable with the costs, I’ll value his service, for sure!!!– We had a garage in our neighborhood who tried to get us to fork over 1400 for the initial inspection, 1000 of that, for “just” the fuel pump and line, itself! Having had the car for enough time, we knew something wasn’t right in their dealings and assessment (they even tried to “jack up” the inspection fee from 68 to 80 bucks). Not to mention, we had the car serviced at a prior place, where the manager gave us a very fair discount (and the parts in question at our time there were noted to be in working order when we went there, so we knew something was up) at this new place. – Naturally, we decided to go some place else to get it inspected and that one didn’t try to get over on us for any parts (the inspection revealed that the car was good to go, and didn’t need any extra repairs- the only charge was the usual reg. sticker fee to the state)!

SPOILER ALERT

For those so eager to attack Luann, you’ll have to back off

For those of us hoping for other resolutions, oh, well…