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Bradley Walker yesterday described the book āMurder by Pastiche,āand couldnāt remember who the spinster was.Iām wondering if she was based on Hildegarde Withers, the spinster schoolteacher (and master of the snappy comeback) played in several movies by Edna May Oliver.
If Poe and Dupin both were real in Tracyās world, how does Poe fit in? Is he saying that Poe was in fact the unnamed narrator of the story? And what does that make of Jules Verne, Conan Doyle, Agatha Christie and Gaston Leroux? Did they exist and have anything to do with writing the stories? As we all know, in-story, the Sherlock Holmes stories were already supposed to be written by Watson.
Hereās Edgar Allan Poeās short story, āMurders in the Rue Morgue,ā courtesy of the U.S. State Department: https://americanenglish.state.gov/files/ae/resource_files/the_murders_in_the_rue_morgue.pdf
Nicaragua issued a series of commemorative stamps in 1972 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Interpol. The stamps depicted āThe 12 Most Famous Fictional Detectives.ā
Details about the stamps and where their source images probably came from are in this blog post: http://www.trussel.com/detfic/nicarag.htm
It seems that the depiction of Dupin comes from the 1954 film. Phantom of the Rue Morgue, in which he was played by Steve Forrest. Possibly best known for the TV series S.W.A.T., Forrest died in 2013.
I donāt comment all that much anymore, but I have tried to keep up..So, Bribery has a contract out on Tracy? No surprise, I guess..My problem is: Just how many people has Liāl Abner taken money from to kill Tracy ā yet he has still to deliver on any of those contracts!.Kind of makes Bribery look like a not-so-good business man.
My weekly summary is not ready. Iām still trying to catch up from being away for a week. I will probably post it tomorrow. For now, letās say that Sam and Lizz have to continue investigating whoās behind the Vampire Mechanique while Abner Kadaver continues to follow the Tracys around Europe (or is he one step ahead of them?) waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike. Iām not sure whether the second panel actually shows that Abner got to the Opera House before they did. I think he was probably just following them at a safe distance and the second panel takes place after the Tracys got there.
Neil Wick said earlier that previous contracts were, in fact, one contract, all tracing back to Bribery. What about Mrs.. Flattop? And Iām pretty sure there were others.
This isnāt that, but itās a 1905 tale that unites the characters (alas, in order to boost one by knocking the other).
However, this is a lot more fun. Itās The Misadventures of Sherlock Holmes, a set of parodies, pastiches and burlesques on the Great Detective, edited by āEllery Queen,ā who forgot to get permission from the Holmes estate. The book was recalled, but copies were available for the sky-high sum of $50, which I could never afford. And here it is.
I also saw that Joseph Cotten portrayed Dupin once, and the twist was that at the endā¦ SPOILER WARNING FOR OLD MOVIEā¦heās revealed to be Poe himself. Perhaps thatās how (as Yngvar asks) they can both be in Tracyās world.
An aged Auguste Dupin made an appearance in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Vol 1 #2. The League is trying to recruit Henry Jekyll/Edward Hyde, and it has a connection to the Rue Morgue murders.
As I explained yesterday, it was Jessica Marbles, played by Elsa Lanchester (of the āFrankensteinā movies) ā a spoof of Agatha Christieās Miss Jane Marple.-āāāāāāāThat was in the Neil Simon movie, āMurder By Death.ā
So, Abner Kadaver sees himself as a latter-day Erik, Phantom of the Opera!How has Abner kept on, or ahead of, the itinerary of the Tracyās? Has he relied upon a combination of overheard conversations and perhaps spying on their papers and tickets? āPossible, I suppose; but unreliable and not especially likely. Has he been fed information by some inside source? This might work in theory; but who would the source be? Mayor Armstrong would not be above such a dastardly deed, but she seems not to be familiar herself with the Tracy plans. Someone at the MCU, such as Sam or Lizz? āUtterly unlikely; dismissible. Some unnamed travel agent that Tracy used? āPerhaps the most logical and likely explanation that I can come up with.Will the Opera Garnier become the site of his attempted hit? Will it take the form of a quasi-reenactment of the Phantomās story, with Tess cast as Christine and Tracy as Raoul?This could be great fun! Iād give it in anticipation four (out of a possible four) red rosesā¦.
Murders in the Rue Morgue is a classic and important story. I enjoy it but, looking back from a modern perspective, it is like a 1940ās B- movie. I know not everyone on this thread has read it so I wonāt spoil it, but the killer is such a cliche.
I donāt think āErikā refers to the Phantom; that was the name of the murderous orangutan in the 1932 Universal film āMurders in the Rue Morgueā starring Bela Lugosi as the mad scientist. An interesting film: even though it was made before the Hays Code, Universal cut nearly 20 minutes (close to a quarter of the filmās original length) because the scenes were considered too gruesome to be shown.
Abner did say that completing the killing of Tracy was a āmatter of honor,ā so he does seem to live and die by a certain code. It wasnāt totally explicit, but I think it was implied that he had received at least part of his fee, if not all of it.
Rod Gonzalez over 8 years ago
Abner and the Opera Ghost?
AnyFace over 8 years ago
Definitely feels like a travelogue ā¦
ā¦ or an issue of CLASSICS ILLUSTRATED.
22ph over 8 years ago
It seems like Abner has a copy of Tracyās itinerary.
Can't Sleep over 8 years ago
Bradley Walker yesterday described the book āMurder by Pastiche,āand couldnāt remember who the spinster was.Iām wondering if she was based on Hildegarde Withers, the spinster schoolteacher (and master of the snappy comeback) played in several movies by Edna May Oliver.
Can't Sleep over 8 years ago
Could the story lead us to the catacombs beneath Paris?
Yngvar FĆølling over 8 years ago
If Poe and Dupin both were real in Tracyās world, how does Poe fit in? Is he saying that Poe was in fact the unnamed narrator of the story? And what does that make of Jules Verne, Conan Doyle, Agatha Christie and Gaston Leroux? Did they exist and have anything to do with writing the stories? As we all know, in-story, the Sherlock Holmes stories were already supposed to be written by Watson.
Vista Bill Raley and Cometā¢ over 8 years ago
.Good morning fellow DT and Kadaver fans!.ā«ā« and along came Abner (and Erik?) ā«ā«
Neil Wick over 8 years ago
It seems that Abner may be doing his own tour of his own heros, like Erik (a.k.a. The Phantom of the Opera).
Neil Wick over 8 years ago
Hereās Edgar Allan Poeās short story, āMurders in the Rue Morgue,ā courtesy of the U.S. State Department: https://americanenglish.state.gov/files/ae/resource_files/the_murders_in_the_rue_morgue.pdf
Neil Wick over 8 years ago
Nicaragua issued a series of commemorative stamps in 1972 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Interpol. The stamps depicted āThe 12 Most Famous Fictional Detectives.ā
Details about the stamps and where their source images probably came from are in this blog post: http://www.trussel.com/detfic/nicarag.htm
It seems that the depiction of Dupin comes from the 1954 film. Phantom of the Rue Morgue, in which he was played by Steve Forrest. Possibly best known for the TV series S.W.A.T., Forrest died in 2013.
Cheapskate0 over 8 years ago
I donāt comment all that much anymore, but I have tried to keep up..So, Bribery has a contract out on Tracy? No surprise, I guess..My problem is: Just how many people has Liāl Abner taken money from to kill Tracy ā yet he has still to deliver on any of those contracts!.Kind of makes Bribery look like a not-so-good business man.
Cheapskate0 over 8 years ago
Speaking of which, Bribery is still around?.Kind of makes the strip feel an awful lot like the 1960s Batman television show!
Neil Wick over 8 years ago
My weekly summary is not ready. Iām still trying to catch up from being away for a week. I will probably post it tomorrow. For now, letās say that Sam and Lizz have to continue investigating whoās behind the Vampire Mechanique while Abner Kadaver continues to follow the Tracys around Europe (or is he one step ahead of them?) waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike. Iām not sure whether the second panel actually shows that Abner got to the Opera House before they did. I think he was probably just following them at a safe distance and the second panel takes place after the Tracys got there.
Cheapskate0 over 8 years ago
Neil Wick said earlier that previous contracts were, in fact, one contract, all tracing back to Bribery. What about Mrs.. Flattop? And Iām pretty sure there were others.
Pequod over 8 years ago
Stilettaās contract was voided when she died. MĆ©liĆØs visited Kadaver at the Murder Mansion to present multiple contracts. One of these was apparently on Tracy, as we soon saw Venus telling Mr. Griswold that Tracy would be ādead-fish deadā within the week (11/24/13). It seems that Venus was acting on orders from Bribery, which we did not know at the time. The abduction of Bonnie Braids led Tracy to Kadaverās death traps. It seems that Kadaver would have been happy to accept two paychecks for one hit, as Stiletta was still living when Tracy defeated the death traps.More two-panel goodness and an appropriately creepy Kadaver with a āBriberyā rose. Here is a link to some interesting information on the historic Palais Garnier.
Kip W over 8 years ago
This isnāt that, but itās a 1905 tale that unites the characters (alas, in order to boost one by knocking the other).
However, this is a lot more fun. Itās The Misadventures of Sherlock Holmes, a set of parodies, pastiches and burlesques on the Great Detective, edited by āEllery Queen,ā who forgot to get permission from the Holmes estate. The book was recalled, but copies were available for the sky-high sum of $50, which I could never afford. And here it is.
I also saw that Joseph Cotten portrayed Dupin once, and the twist was that at the endā¦ SPOILER WARNING FOR OLD MOVIEā¦heās revealed to be Poe himself. Perhaps thatās how (as Yngvar asks) they can both be in Tracyās world.
Don Bagert Premium Member over 8 years ago
An aged Auguste Dupin made an appearance in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Vol 1 #2. The League is trying to recruit Henry Jekyll/Edward Hyde, and it has a connection to the Rue Morgue murders.
Can't Sleep over 8 years ago
As I explained yesterday, it was Jessica Marbles, played by Elsa Lanchester (of the āFrankensteinā movies) ā a spoof of Agatha Christieās Miss Jane Marple.-āāāāāāāThat was in the Neil Simon movie, āMurder By Death.ā
Steven Wright over 8 years ago
Itās vacation timeTracy visits his heroesAbner visits hisDreams schemes are plotted outWhen will Kadaver wake up
crass over 8 years ago
I have a bad feeling about Tess getting caught in Abnerās trap instead of Tracy.
overtop over 8 years ago
AB just wants to give Dick a rose, just like the Bachelor AAAAH! Sweet
David Rickard Premium Member over 8 years ago
Chandelier drop in 5,4,3ā¦
Ray Toler over 8 years ago
I donāt think Iāve ever seen Dick wearing a blue suit.
Sisyphos over 8 years ago
So, Abner Kadaver sees himself as a latter-day Erik, Phantom of the Opera!How has Abner kept on, or ahead of, the itinerary of the Tracyās? Has he relied upon a combination of overheard conversations and perhaps spying on their papers and tickets? āPossible, I suppose; but unreliable and not especially likely. Has he been fed information by some inside source? This might work in theory; but who would the source be? Mayor Armstrong would not be above such a dastardly deed, but she seems not to be familiar herself with the Tracy plans. Someone at the MCU, such as Sam or Lizz? āUtterly unlikely; dismissible. Some unnamed travel agent that Tracy used? āPerhaps the most logical and likely explanation that I can come up with.Will the Opera Garnier become the site of his attempted hit? Will it take the form of a quasi-reenactment of the Phantomās story, with Tess cast as Christine and Tracy as Raoul?This could be great fun! Iād give it in anticipation four (out of a possible four) red rosesā¦.
barry.jacobs over 8 years ago
Murders in the Rue Morgue is a classic and important story. I enjoy it but, looking back from a modern perspective, it is like a 1940ās B- movie. I know not everyone on this thread has read it so I wonāt spoil it, but the killer is such a cliche.
puddleglum1066 over 8 years ago
I donāt think āErikā refers to the Phantom; that was the name of the murderous orangutan in the 1932 Universal film āMurders in the Rue Morgueā starring Bela Lugosi as the mad scientist. An interesting film: even though it was made before the Hays Code, Universal cut nearly 20 minutes (close to a quarter of the filmās original length) because the scenes were considered too gruesome to be shown.
yumpinyiminey over 8 years ago
Erik?
3pibgorn9 over 8 years ago
āThe Music of the Night.ā
Neil Wick over 8 years ago
Abner did say that completing the killing of Tracy was a āmatter of honor,ā so he does seem to live and die by a certain code. It wasnāt totally explicit, but I think it was implied that he had received at least part of his fee, if not all of it.
Sisyphos over 8 years ago
Robert Bloch was a great writer of horror- and science-fiction. Iāll try to find that story when I have time!
Civanfan over 3 years ago
Weāre both overdramatic drama queens!