Leslie is a demented dangerous psychotic person who will react very badly when he finds out Pru is a lesbian…violence against LGTB is a fact of life and when a homophobe thinks he’s been tricked, duped, or played..well watch out Prudence…better yet, get on the next plane, train or bus back to New York RIGHT NOW.
Setting the bait for Pru. It might be a little awkward but Pru will be nice about informing him of her status. Now, if this happened to my cousin, Les would end up in the Vienna Boy’s Choir.
Pru seems like the type of person who can hold her own, and let Les know in a nice way that she is not available for him. And if there IS any trouble, there is always Ox to the rescue.
@notbornyesterday @anyface I don’t want to appear to be an insensitive prick, because I do understand where you’re coming from, and I empathize with you. My only soapbox issue is the constant misuse of the word ‘homophobe’. Due to the politically correct climate we’re forced to live in, everyone interprets the word as meaning someone who hates gays, i.e. homosexuals. In actuality, it’s not hatred, but fear. For example, if one was a misogynist, he would hate or despise women. But if he was a gynophobe, he’d be afraid of women. For someone who hates homosexuals, I think you need another word. I dunno…misohomy? Yes, I know it sounds ridiculous, but I think you see what I’m talking about. BTW, homophobia also means ‘fear of monotony’; that’s because the root prefix ‘homo-’ means ‘same’. Happy New Year, y’all!
Oblique political implications may be okay here, especially when they relate in some way to the strip content. However, regardless of what political camp you call home, it seems to me that viciously tearing into a real politician or group that you disagree with actually amounts to “hate speech”. And I don’t think it’s appropriate on this forum. Some such posts have been getting deleted.
he’s only getting a peck on the cheek. let’s hope he doesn’t“peck” pru(ne’s) cheek. looks like the new year’s “no drama” wish of Nancy’s is not happening. and Leslie’s talent for making bad decisions is not helping.
“Can we please stop with the politics on this forum? Go to your safe space”
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“Can we stop with politics” he says, and then follows it up with one of the stupid insult cliches that Trumpites repeat over and over and over again, because they have no minds of their own.
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Although there is irony in the fact that the most easily offended people I’ve ever seen – followers and worshipers of a man who stays up all night complaining that SNL makes fun of him – talking about OTHER people’s need for a “safe space.”
Lots of foreshadowing going on. Les is about to be revealed as anti-LGBTQ. If Green Shirt doesn’t get an ass-whoopin’ in tomorrow’s strip, or sometime into next week, then perhaps the violence might fall upon Pru. Let’s not forget that we have a Superbowl coming in 5 weeks, and there is usually a spike in the reporting of violence against women (be it domestic, or street), on Super Sunday. Perhaps this arc is gonna be part of an awareness-building effort of some kind. Maybe the polarized climate of the US election and aftermath was an influence in the writing.
I found myself wondering several things. Yes, it is possible that the young man is gay. It is even possible that he is or was Les’s boyfriend. However, it also is possible that Les knows his voice from elsewhere, for example from a rehab program of some kind. It might be that recognizing his voice is what has startled Les.
So this is Step 2? Hang out under mistletoe, waiting for Pru to show up? Reminds me of those 4 steps to success that go, 1. (something stupid), 2. (something even more stupid), 3. ???, 4. Profit!
My one problem with this comic is that I have never known a gay person who would presume that kissing a stranger was appropriate under ANY circumstances, mistletoe or not.
No one is forced to kiss someone just because there is mistletoe nearby. If the guy asks Les for a kiss, Les can politely say No. The same way as if it were a male and female. Consent is always needed.
Who knows….maybe Leslie’s ongoing crappy actions and decisions stem from repressed homoerotic tendencies. at any rate, as a gay man I too vote against homophobic actions in the strip (though there’s really only two votes that matter).
Just one post is missing. I still had the page up without refreshing it, your original post is still there with Templo’s as the second one. I opened a new page, and Templo’s has moved from second to first. Almost sounds like a baseball game.
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Who’s on first, What’s on second, I Don’t Know’s on third…
Seems kind of iffy that a complete stranger, male or female, would proposition Les like that, tradition or no tradition. Maybe the guy knows Les and he’s messing with him, or there is someone with the guy who’s out of sight behind the archway, and THEY will be standing underneath the mistloe …..
*"Criticizing a politician is NOT “hate speech.” *.I dunno.
I have a cousin who is convinced all condemnation of a certain politician is because of his race. I pointed out that other people who said or did certain things were also condemned, but she remains unconvinced. (There is little doubt some of what she says is true, that race is a factor, but people have avoided saying so for the most part, for fear of condemnation just like hers.)
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“*Hate speech would be attacking a person’s race, ethnicity, religion, sex, sexual orientation, or national origin. I’m criticizing his personality, his character (or lack of), and what he’s been doing.”*
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But what if a person’s personality and character is due to a birth defect (like the Grinch: “It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight. It could be his head wasn’t screwed on just right. May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.”)? That would mean you have been condemning him for a disability, you hate speacher, you.
.
Regardless, people are free to speak hatefully and many do so.
Others are just as free to disagree with what they say and many do so.
Our Constitution protects their right to say what is in their minds and this is a good thing because we know what kind of person a speaker is.
And regarding the man who badmouthed the woman I love (yes, in addition to Patsy, I am a very loving man) and her husband Barack),
Jim Heaney has expressed much disagreement and disgust with the gentleman over the years but he writes:
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“You don’t like what Paladino has said?
.
“Demand his resignation, as many rightfully have.
.
“Talk to him in a language he understands by boycotting his businesses.
.
“Picket his house, although don’t expect the sidewalk will be shoveled for you.
.
“Appeal to the appropriate legislative body to provide for the recall of School Board members through electoral means.”
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He points out the danger of letting the government decide who can be in the government by removing them from office:
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Think about it. We have a president elect who displays authoritarian tendencies. For example, Xxxxxx Xxxxx has already said those who exercise their First Amendment rights to burn the United States flag should be punished. Never mind that the Supreme Court has upheld such activity as legal.
To remain on topic, I bet Leslie would disapprove of such hateful speech but don’t know if he would want people punished — other than by ostracism as has rightfully been done to him most of his life
“Our Constitution protects their right to say what is in their minds”
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Schrodinger’s Dog said,
“But this isn’t one; as the TOS points out this is a site owned by Universal Uclick. Thus there exists no such “right” here; only what the mods tolerate.
.
True.
Nonetheless they were/are wanting the government to have the power to restrict speech up to and including who can be elected to hold office. Whereas, I am glad people feel free to speak their minds so I can see who all the haters are, the people who hate Christians, for example.
.
And the mods have been extremely tolerant, so much so, that if they become intolerant over more than the most egregious offenses, one will have to wonder about the cause of the discrimination.
“The mods, GoComics, and Universal are probably also very worried that the incoming administration has said that it wants to do away with net neutrality. That could have a very negative effect on their business and on our access.”
.
It probably won’t come up before the nukes go off all over the world.
.
With that in mind, as David Niven’s character said, to the daughter in The Impossible Years (1968):
Linda Kingsley: [her parents are trying to get her to clean up her very messy room] How can you make such a big deal out of one little messy room when this whole world is flying apart? Crime on the streets! Strontium-90 in our milk! Push-button warfare! Why, do you realize that at any moment, we might be blasted off the face of this earth?
.
Jonathan Kingsley:
All right. So we’ll be blasted. But when we are, you are going with a clean room!
Templo S.U.D. almost 8 years ago
well, that’s awkward for Leslie in the final panel
Flash Gordon almost 8 years ago
Whatever that is about, I don’t want to know.
☺
BTW, when is mistletoe for?
Brdshtt Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Someone barking up the wrong tree of the someone who is already barking up the wrong tree.
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Tree – mendous!
cdgar almost 8 years ago
Les is about to get ‘Lucky’.
Wilde Bill almost 8 years ago
I laughed out loud at Les’s predicament. Does that make me a bad person?
notbornyesterday almost 8 years ago
Leslie is a demented dangerous psychotic person who will react very badly when he finds out Pru is a lesbian…violence against LGTB is a fact of life and when a homophobe thinks he’s been tricked, duped, or played..well watch out Prudence…better yet, get on the next plane, train or bus back to New York RIGHT NOW.
AnyFace almost 8 years ago
Not quite the fish Les was angling for, huh?
Another Unicorn almost 8 years ago
Be careful what you fish for. Be very careful!
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 8 years ago
“Kiss me, you hunka hunka burning love.”
gazperson almost 8 years ago
Is Les going to learn something about same-sex-attracted people from someone other than Pru?
Mordock999 Premium Member almost 8 years ago
WAIT. So Les’s “Plan B” was mistletoe??
No wonder he got caught….,
Airman almost 8 years ago
Setting the bait for Pru. It might be a little awkward but Pru will be nice about informing him of her status. Now, if this happened to my cousin, Les would end up in the Vienna Boy’s Choir.
blunebottle almost 8 years ago
I don’t like Leslie. Does that make me a bad person?
kmwtigger almost 8 years ago
Pru seems like the type of person who can hold her own, and let Les know in a nice way that she is not available for him. And if there IS any trouble, there is always Ox to the rescue.
Linnorm almost 8 years ago
@notbornyesterday @anyface I don’t want to appear to be an insensitive prick, because I do understand where you’re coming from, and I empathize with you. My only soapbox issue is the constant misuse of the word ‘homophobe’. Due to the politically correct climate we’re forced to live in, everyone interprets the word as meaning someone who hates gays, i.e. homosexuals. In actuality, it’s not hatred, but fear. For example, if one was a misogynist, he would hate or despise women. But if he was a gynophobe, he’d be afraid of women. For someone who hates homosexuals, I think you need another word. I dunno…misohomy? Yes, I know it sounds ridiculous, but I think you see what I’m talking about. BTW, homophobia also means ‘fear of monotony’; that’s because the root prefix ‘homo-’ means ‘same’. Happy New Year, y’all!
kenhense almost 8 years ago
Let might get his kiss from Pru…Maybe not a big deal (to Pru). However, after rounding first base – Les will get thrown out at second…
Wizardgoat almost 8 years ago
@live2read
Oblique political implications may be okay here, especially when they relate in some way to the strip content. However, regardless of what political camp you call home, it seems to me that viciously tearing into a real politician or group that you disagree with actually amounts to “hate speech”. And I don’t think it’s appropriate on this forum. Some such posts have been getting deleted.
Mikeyj almost 8 years ago
Are we finally about to meet the Captain’s friend Tony?
Mikeyj almost 8 years ago
Anyone STILL think Les isn’t hot for Pru? This strip seems to reinforce that hypothesis.
wreck it ralph almost 8 years ago
Pucker up Lessyour about to get your first French Kiss.
jmp.mtbn almost 8 years ago
Here in France , mistletoe is only for new year . ‘’ au gui l’an neuf ’’
jmp.mtbn almost 8 years ago
Here in France , mistletoe is only for new year . ‘’ au gui l’an neuf ’’
jmp.mtbn almost 8 years ago
Here in France , mistletoe is only for new year . ‘’ au gui l’an neuf ’’
meillered almost 8 years ago
Maybe Leslie and Pru will bond in a different way.
Willywise52 Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Heyyy Big Fella.
31768 almost 8 years ago
he’s only getting a peck on the cheek. let’s hope he doesn’t“peck” pru(ne’s) cheek. looks like the new year’s “no drama” wish of Nancy’s is not happening. and Leslie’s talent for making bad decisions is not helping.
CaptainX_99 almost 8 years ago
Plan B didn’t work.
Schrodinger's Dog almost 8 years ago
the Law of Unintended Consequences
Schrodinger's Dog almost 8 years ago
I’ll bet he gets a peck on the cheek from Pru for being such a “nice guy”.
Ignatz Premium Member almost 8 years ago
“Can we please stop with the politics on this forum? Go to your safe space”
.
“Can we stop with politics” he says, and then follows it up with one of the stupid insult cliches that Trumpites repeat over and over and over again, because they have no minds of their own.
.
Although there is irony in the fact that the most easily offended people I’ve ever seen – followers and worshipers of a man who stays up all night complaining that SNL makes fun of him – talking about OTHER people’s need for a “safe space.”
2Goldfish almost 8 years ago
Creepy.
jrankin1959 almost 8 years ago
Les’ thought balloon: “Curse you, modern times!”
Lord Hearteater almost 8 years ago
Lots of foreshadowing going on. Les is about to be revealed as anti-LGBTQ. If Green Shirt doesn’t get an ass-whoopin’ in tomorrow’s strip, or sometime into next week, then perhaps the violence might fall upon Pru. Let’s not forget that we have a Superbowl coming in 5 weeks, and there is usually a spike in the reporting of violence against women (be it domestic, or street), on Super Sunday. Perhaps this arc is gonna be part of an awareness-building effort of some kind. Maybe the polarized climate of the US election and aftermath was an influence in the writing.
Schrodinger's Dog almost 8 years ago
What if Les says something inappropriate to the male person approaching him, and Pru overhears it and confronts Les about it?
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 8 years ago
I found myself wondering several things. Yes, it is possible that the young man is gay. It is even possible that he is or was Les’s boyfriend. However, it also is possible that Les knows his voice from elsewhere, for example from a rehab program of some kind. It might be that recognizing his voice is what has startled Les.
æ² almost 8 years ago
So this is Step 2? Hang out under mistletoe, waiting for Pru to show up? Reminds me of those 4 steps to success that go, 1. (something stupid), 2. (something even more stupid), 3. ???, 4. Profit!
Tyge almost 8 years ago
This arc is getting weird. Call me when it’s over.
spiritshadow almost 8 years ago
“Those who play must pay.”
Sisyphos almost 8 years ago
I don’t know who this newcomer is, but it appears that Leslie might recognize the voice.
Parole officer?
Or just an amorous stranger?
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Oh, and apologies to the general population here for when i express myself poorly recently. With Steve’s mom passing on the 24th we are all run down.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 8 years ago
IF this plot of Les’s is a love lorn one then he is pretty much on the same overly thought out yet still clueless train of thought as Bernice.
Luanaphile almost 8 years ago
Leslie’s New Year Resolutions
1) Be more open to my feelings.
2) Be on the look out for unexpected gifts from strangers.
3) Don’t let Uncle Al bully me or poke into my personal business.
JPuzzleWhiz almost 8 years ago
Not so lame — at least I laughed! o<|];o)
Ignatz Premium Member almost 8 years ago
My one problem with this comic is that I have never known a gay person who would presume that kissing a stranger was appropriate under ANY circumstances, mistletoe or not.
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Unlike some straight people.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 8 years ago
I wrote exported instead of deported. Sorry. I immediately tried to copy to correct, but that function is down again.
ACTIVIST1234 almost 8 years ago
Mistletoe— the plant for all seasons. Hope the guest’s question makes Les get in action and go back to waiting tables!
Mike Parsons Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Ha ha ha – it’s good to see Les raise his eyebrows for a change.
wardtree almost 8 years ago
If he had any “smarts”, Les could just step out from under the mistletoe, turn and look up at it, and say, “Why, yes it is!” . Then walk away.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] almost 8 years ago
That was the famous random glitch that just deletes people’s comments. Gocomics rarely acts so quickly.
locake almost 8 years ago
No one is forced to kiss someone just because there is mistletoe nearby. If the guy asks Les for a kiss, Les can politely say No. The same way as if it were a male and female. Consent is always needed.
waterworld almost 8 years ago
Who knows….maybe Leslie’s ongoing crappy actions and decisions stem from repressed homoerotic tendencies. at any rate, as a gay man I too vote against homophobic actions in the strip (though there’s really only two votes that matter).
The Laura J almost 8 years ago
Wait…
jppjr almost 8 years ago
Meanwhile, the newly-weds are on their honeymoon….perhaps starting fires instead of putting them out.
Brdshtt Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Just one post is missing. I still had the page up without refreshing it, your original post is still there with Templo’s as the second one. I opened a new page, and Templo’s has moved from second to first. Almost sounds like a baseball game.
.
Who’s on first, What’s on second, I Don’t Know’s on third…
EighthGreen almost 8 years ago
There are twelve days of Christmas and December 31 is the seventh, in case anyone’s forgotten.
Chopped Fowl almost 8 years ago
Seems kind of iffy that a complete stranger, male or female, would proposition Les like that, tradition or no tradition. Maybe the guy knows Les and he’s messing with him, or there is someone with the guy who’s out of sight behind the archway, and THEY will be standing underneath the mistloe …..
Luanaphile almost 8 years ago
I, for one, am not going to call Tyge when this arc is over. Just sayin’.
RSH almost 8 years ago
I think the guy’s comments are just meant to alert folks that there is mistletoe hanging.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 8 years ago
live2read said,
@Wizardgoat
*"Criticizing a politician is NOT “hate speech.” *.I dunno.
I have a cousin who is convinced all condemnation of a certain politician is because of his race. I pointed out that other people who said or did certain things were also condemned, but she remains unconvinced. (There is little doubt some of what she says is true, that race is a factor, but people have avoided saying so for the most part, for fear of condemnation just like hers.)
.
“*Hate speech would be attacking a person’s race, ethnicity, religion, sex, sexual orientation, or national origin. I’m criticizing his personality, his character (or lack of), and what he’s been doing.”*
.
But what if a person’s personality and character is due to a birth defect (like the Grinch: “It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight. It could be his head wasn’t screwed on just right. May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.”)? That would mean you have been condemning him for a disability, you hate speacher, you.
.
Regardless, people are free to speak hatefully and many do so.
Others are just as free to disagree with what they say and many do so.
Our Constitution protects their right to say what is in their minds and this is a good thing because we know what kind of person a speaker is.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/07/no-theres-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 8 years ago
And regarding the man who badmouthed the woman I love (yes, in addition to Patsy, I am a very loving man) and her husband Barack),
Jim Heaney has expressed much disagreement and disgust with the gentleman over the years but he writes:
.
“You don’t like what Paladino has said?
.
“Demand his resignation, as many rightfully have.
.
“Talk to him in a language he understands by boycotting his businesses.
.
“Picket his house, although don’t expect the sidewalk will be shoveled for you.
.
“Appeal to the appropriate legislative body to provide for the recall of School Board members through electoral means.”
.
He points out the danger of letting the government decide who can be in the government by removing them from office:
.
Think about it. We have a president elect who displays authoritarian tendencies. For example, Xxxxxx Xxxxx has already said those who exercise their First Amendment rights to burn the United States flag should be punished. Never mind that the Supreme Court has upheld such activity as legal.
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I recommend we not give him that much power.
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http://www.investigativepost.org/2016/12/29/6130/
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 8 years ago
To remain on topic, I bet Leslie would disapprove of such hateful speech but don’t know if he would want people punished — other than by ostracism as has rightfully been done to him most of his life
JPuzzleWhiz almost 8 years ago
In the absence of IamJayBluE, I offer the following “titles”:
“Swing And A Mistletoe”
“That Is The Question”
“Plant One, Right Here!”
“A Welcoming Sign”
JPuzzleWhiz almost 8 years ago
Looks like for once, we get a small glimpse of the party going on, even though the party crowd consists largely of silhouettes until Panel 3.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 8 years ago
Schrodinger’s Dog said,
@DavidHuieGreen
“Our Constitution protects their right to say what is in their minds”
.
Schrodinger’s Dog said,
“But this isn’t one; as the TOS points out this is a site owned by Universal Uclick. Thus there exists no such “right” here; only what the mods tolerate..
True.
Nonetheless they were/are wanting the government to have the power to restrict speech up to and including who can be elected to hold office. Whereas, I am glad people feel free to speak their minds so I can see who all the haters are, the people who hate Christians, for example.
.
And the mods have been extremely tolerant, so much so, that if they become intolerant over more than the most egregious offenses, one will have to wonder about the cause of the discrimination.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Going to see if GC will let me do the spacing without the periods…
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Spoiler w apologies to Robert Burns:
The worst laid plans
Of mice and Les
Aft gang agley
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 8 years ago
SukieCrandall said,
@DavidHuieGreen
“The mods, GoComics, and Universal are probably also very worried that the incoming administration has said that it wants to do away with net neutrality. That could have a very negative effect on their business and on our access.”
.
It probably won’t come up before the nukes go off all over the world.
.
With that in mind, as David Niven’s character said, to the daughter in The Impossible Years (1968):
Linda Kingsley: [her parents are trying to get her to clean up her very messy room] How can you make such a big deal out of one little messy room when this whole world is flying apart? Crime on the streets! Strontium-90 in our milk! Push-button warfare! Why, do you realize that at any moment, we might be blasted off the face of this earth?.
Jonathan Kingsley:
All right. So we’ll be blasted. But when we are, you are going with a clean room!
phxhocking almost 8 years ago
Oh boy….methinks the fireworks coming aren’t just going to be for New Years.