There’s a logical reason for that. If Noah did collected the two fish, well after the flood, they wouldn’t have very far to go after they got off the ark.
Actually, if it were normal rain, all the salt-water fishes would die as salination of the seas decreased. Thank goodness it’s just a story, and thank God I’m an atheist.
There are wide-spread flood stories, and I’ve thought for a long time it’s because so many early civilisations started next to big rivers—Indus Valley; Mesopotamia, Egypt. I imagine the family sitting on the roof during the latest inundation whilst Grandpa is scornfully lecturing them: “Pah! In my day we had floods that would make this look like a drought!”
Unless it was in Egypt when he would start “Ptah!…..”
Wait until he has to figure out how to get all the critters from Australia to Mesopotamia with NO direct route, OR food sources along the way! AND THEN how to make sure that they ALL go back to JUST THERE, so we don’t end up with Wallabies, Kangaroos and Koalas in Cincinnati…
Science does not prove that the Bible stories are true in the way that most people want it to be proven but taken into context I have never found the Bible and science to conflict. In fact I have found that it actually proves that most of the Bible stories that so many claim are myths could have or did actually occur. As I was once told always use the 20/20 rule when quoting any verse of the Bible. “Include the previous and following 20 verses to understand any one verse.”
What is amusing about this is that all of the “Bible bashers” here give evidence through their comments that they really know nothing about the account of Noah or the Bible itself. It’s so easy to criticize and dismiss the the Bible when you haven’t taken the time to actually read it. And yes, we know they will all claim they have read it cover to cover …..sure, yeah right.
For one thing, when Jehovah God told Noah that He would make it rain for 40 days and nights, there is no indication that Noah asked “what is rain”. There is nothing in the Bible to suggest it had never rained before that or that people didn’t know what rain is. To the contrary, Noah began work immediately building the ark exactly as directed including a roof. He didn’t ask what a roof is for. In the creation account in genesis chapter 1 we’re told the sun would dominate by day [i.e. would shine] and chapter 1 also mentions “seasons”. The only mention of there being no rain was early on in the creation process before plants and vegetation appeared in the period of the 3rd creative “day” chapter 2 vs 5,6. It’s important to note that the 6 creative days were thousands of years long or longer
One hypothesis about the flood stories has to do with the Bosphurus sill. The Black sea was an inland freshwater lake surrounded by early agricultural communities until the end of the last ice age, when water from the Mediterranean pushed over the narrow rocky barrier into it due to rising waters from melting glaciers. This flooded out some of the earliest farming communities and led to folk tales about a great flood.
Would there be anyway to create a three minute edit window. And yes, I have done the copy, delete and fix, but would be easier to do a quick edit. Is the programing for such a thing more complex than I think it is?
Science deals with verifiable fact while ANY religion deals with matters of faith. You must understand that “fact” and “faith” are “apples” and “oranges”! By definition, one CANNOT prove an article of faith by the production of ‘facts’! I do not, personally, believe in a “multi-dimensional space alien” (a simplistic description of what Judeo-christians refer to as "God’). I totally understand the need of some people for a belief in a “higher power”, otherwise known as a ‘father’ figure. One thing I have learned from raising two children of my own; you never tell a ‘child’ that they don’t “need” their ‘father’!
just love bible references from those who didn’t read it properly. In this case the bible states that Noah was to collect two of every “unclean” animal and seven of any animal considered “clean”.
A 20 foot rise in sea level is quite enough to cause serious problems to humans and other species. The Noah story would require the water to be over 25,000 feet deep, and of course those plants grew really fast for the dove to bring a sprig from a devastated planet. Science doesn’t deny religion, but it asks questions “relgious folks” of the radical nature, simply can’t answer, so they’re willing to destroy the planet again because, “only God” can cause real problems.
Even Orthodox Jews, who are not atheists, are concerned with how to understand Bible stories without violating laws of nature. Have a look at this: https://www.lookstein.org/articles/flood_man.pdf .
Dtroutma about 7 years ago
Or leviathons?
Adiraiju about 7 years ago
“You WILL need two of every ground beetle species, though. Get goin’.”
Alabama Al about 7 years ago
I thought the Almighty took care of that detail by willing representative members of each species to the Ark.
coomback about 7 years ago
I always wanted to see the overhead luggage bins deploy the oxygen masks beings they were higher than Everest …
Say What Now‽ Premium Member about 7 years ago
My favorite part is where the pumpkin is turned into a coach. Oh, wait, I think that is a different fairytale.
GiantShetlandPony about 7 years ago
What’s the difference between line breeding and inbreeding?;);););););)You call it line breeding when it works.
Lyons Group, Inc. about 7 years ago
There’s a logical reason for that. If Noah did collected the two fish, well after the flood, they wouldn’t have very far to go after they got off the ark.
Richard Howland-Bolton Premium Member about 7 years ago
Actually, if it were normal rain, all the salt-water fishes would die as salination of the seas decreased. Thank goodness it’s just a story, and thank God I’m an atheist.
There are wide-spread flood stories, and I’ve thought for a long time it’s because so many early civilisations started next to big rivers—Indus Valley; Mesopotamia, Egypt. I imagine the family sitting on the roof during the latest inundation whilst Grandpa is scornfully lecturing them: “Pah! In my day we had floods that would make this look like a drought!”
Unless it was in Egypt when he would start “Ptah!…..”
whiteheron about 7 years ago
Riiight. I have just one question. What’s a cubit?
sandpiper about 7 years ago
Gotta pity the guy that had to change the newspapers and litter boxes
Phred Premium Member about 7 years ago
Funny comic and interesting comments (as typical for Non Sequitur).
Masterskrain about 7 years ago
Wait until he has to figure out how to get all the critters from Australia to Mesopotamia with NO direct route, OR food sources along the way! AND THEN how to make sure that they ALL go back to JUST THERE, so we don’t end up with Wallabies, Kangaroos and Koalas in Cincinnati…
tkcoker about 7 years ago
Science does not prove that the Bible stories are true in the way that most people want it to be proven but taken into context I have never found the Bible and science to conflict. In fact I have found that it actually proves that most of the Bible stories that so many claim are myths could have or did actually occur. As I was once told always use the 20/20 rule when quoting any verse of the Bible. “Include the previous and following 20 verses to understand any one verse.”
wdgnas about 7 years ago
jojo: i heard a radio broadcast of a hockey game, "jesus saves, passes to gretsky who scoooores…
wdgnas about 7 years ago
jojo: jesus saves at kmart…
goblue86 about 7 years ago
I found Jesus! He’s outside mowing the back yard… (my apologies to my friends in the hispanic community)
Masterskrain about 7 years ago
“Jesus Saves”! (But the Wise Men invest in long-term bonds and treasury notes…)
AZPhinFan about 7 years ago
What is amusing about this is that all of the “Bible bashers” here give evidence through their comments that they really know nothing about the account of Noah or the Bible itself. It’s so easy to criticize and dismiss the the Bible when you haven’t taken the time to actually read it. And yes, we know they will all claim they have read it cover to cover …..sure, yeah right.
For one thing, when Jehovah God told Noah that He would make it rain for 40 days and nights, there is no indication that Noah asked “what is rain”. There is nothing in the Bible to suggest it had never rained before that or that people didn’t know what rain is. To the contrary, Noah began work immediately building the ark exactly as directed including a roof. He didn’t ask what a roof is for. In the creation account in genesis chapter 1 we’re told the sun would dominate by day [i.e. would shine] and chapter 1 also mentions “seasons”. The only mention of there being no rain was early on in the creation process before plants and vegetation appeared in the period of the 3rd creative “day” chapter 2 vs 5,6. It’s important to note that the 6 creative days were thousands of years long or longer
nosirrom about 7 years ago
Wiley, could we move on to a different Ark Story.. er .. I mean Story Arc?
Richard S Russell Premium Member about 7 years ago
Bob Seidensticker over at the “Cross Examined” blog takes on this very subject in his last 2 posts:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2017/10/noah-movie-review/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2017/10/dismantling-noah-story/
Bottom line is that you’ve basically got to be either crazy or a willing dupe of a “holy” con man to buy into this gigantic whopper.
UpaCoCoCreek Premium Member about 7 years ago
Sounds like Gods gonna “teach a man to fish”.
Masterskrain about 7 years ago
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_flood
Read this, it’s QUITE interesting, and ends the MYTH of the flood once and for all!ladykat about 7 years ago
And here Noah thought he was going on a fishing trip…
Nuliajuk about 7 years ago
One hypothesis about the flood stories has to do with the Bosphurus sill. The Black sea was an inland freshwater lake surrounded by early agricultural communities until the end of the last ice age, when water from the Mediterranean pushed over the narrow rocky barrier into it due to rising waters from melting glaciers. This flooded out some of the earliest farming communities and led to folk tales about a great flood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis
Packratjohn Premium Member about 7 years ago
Whaddya mean it’s not a bass boat??
dabugger about 7 years ago
Wait for whatever.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] about 7 years ago
And then there are the creatures who are the “fishers of Men”.
AtypicalReader about 7 years ago
I honestly don’t care what sort of religious beliefs people might have, it’s when they try to force them on me that I begin objecting.
somebodyshort about 7 years ago
Global warming is leading to ocean level rising. Start building your own ark. This is what the Bible is predicting.
GiantShetlandPony about 7 years ago
Off topic technical question:
Would there be anyway to create a three minute edit window. And yes, I have done the copy, delete and fix, but would be easier to do a quick edit. Is the programing for such a thing more complex than I think it is?
wellis1947 Premium Member about 7 years ago
Science deals with verifiable fact while ANY religion deals with matters of faith. You must understand that “fact” and “faith” are “apples” and “oranges”! By definition, one CANNOT prove an article of faith by the production of ‘facts’! I do not, personally, believe in a “multi-dimensional space alien” (a simplistic description of what Judeo-christians refer to as "God’). I totally understand the need of some people for a belief in a “higher power”, otherwise known as a ‘father’ figure. One thing I have learned from raising two children of my own; you never tell a ‘child’ that they don’t “need” their ‘father’!
sufamelico about 7 years ago
You say “I am and atheist” And you “thank God” ? Okay now which is it going to be, One or the other!
SFpagan about 7 years ago
just love bible references from those who didn’t read it properly. In this case the bible states that Noah was to collect two of every “unclean” animal and seven of any animal considered “clean”.
jbruins84341 about 7 years ago
“Two mosquitoes (male or female).”
BQuirky about 7 years ago
“thank God I’m an atheist” Seriously?? Think about it…
Dtroutma about 7 years ago
A 20 foot rise in sea level is quite enough to cause serious problems to humans and other species. The Noah story would require the water to be over 25,000 feet deep, and of course those plants grew really fast for the dove to bring a sprig from a devastated planet. Science doesn’t deny religion, but it asks questions “relgious folks” of the radical nature, simply can’t answer, so they’re willing to destroy the planet again because, “only God” can cause real problems.
goblue86 about 7 years ago
By a show of hands, how many of you believe in any of the following gods: Zeus? Apollo? Vulcan? Anyone. Anyone.
Nobody?
Ok..so you’re all ATHEISTS when it comes to those gods…
DavidMescheloff about 7 years ago
Even Orthodox Jews, who are not atheists, are concerned with how to understand Bible stories without violating laws of nature. Have a look at this: https://www.lookstein.org/articles/flood_man.pdf .
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] about 7 years ago
What Atheists argue. We just go the final step the believers in only one deity are while being atheist to all the rest.