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Thereâs a logical reason for that. If Noah did collected the two fish, well after the flood, they wouldnât have very far to go after they got off the ark.
Actually, if it were normal rain, all the salt-water fishes would die as salination of the seas decreased. Thank goodness itâs just a story, and thank God Iâm an atheist.
There are wide-spread flood stories, and Iâve thought for a long time itâs because so many early civilisations started next to big riversâIndus Valley; Mesopotamia, Egypt. I imagine the family sitting on the roof during the latest inundation whilst Grandpa is scornfully lecturing them: âPah! In my day we had floods that would make this look like a drought!â
Unless it was in Egypt when he would start âPtah!âŚ..â
Wait until he has to figure out how to get all the critters from Australia to Mesopotamia with NO direct route, OR food sources along the way! AND THEN how to make sure that they ALL go back to JUST THERE, so we donât end up with Wallabies, Kangaroos and Koalas in CincinnatiâŚ
Science does not prove that the Bible stories are true in the way that most people want it to be proven but taken into context I have never found the Bible and science to conflict. In fact I have found that it actually proves that most of the Bible stories that so many claim are myths could have or did actually occur. As I was once told always use the 20/20 rule when quoting any verse of the Bible. âInclude the previous and following 20 verses to understand any one verse.â
What is amusing about this is that all of the âBible bashersâ here give evidence through their comments that they really know nothing about the account of Noah or the Bible itself. Itâs so easy to criticize and dismiss the the Bible when you havenât taken the time to actually read it. And yes, we know they will all claim they have read it cover to cover âŚ..sure, yeah right.
For one thing, when Jehovah God told Noah that He would make it rain for 40 days and nights, there is no indication that Noah asked âwhat is rainâ. There is nothing in the Bible to suggest it had never rained before that or that people didnât know what rain is. To the contrary, Noah began work immediately building the ark exactly as directed including a roof. He didnât ask what a roof is for. In the creation account in genesis chapter 1 weâre told the sun would dominate by day [i.e. would shine] and chapter 1 also mentions âseasonsâ. The only mention of there being no rain was early on in the creation process before plants and vegetation appeared in the period of the 3rd creative âdayâ chapter 2 vs 5,6. Itâs important to note that the 6 creative days were thousands of years long or longer
One hypothesis about the flood stories has to do with the Bosphurus sill. The Black sea was an inland freshwater lake surrounded by early agricultural communities until the end of the last ice age, when water from the Mediterranean pushed over the narrow rocky barrier into it due to rising waters from melting glaciers. This flooded out some of the earliest farming communities and led to folk tales about a great flood.
Would there be anyway to create a three minute edit window. And yes, I have done the copy, delete and fix, but would be easier to do a quick edit. Is the programing for such a thing more complex than I think it is?
Science deals with verifiable fact while ANY religion deals with matters of faith. You must understand that âfactâ and âfaithâ are âapplesâ and âorangesâ! By definition, one CANNOT prove an article of faith by the production of âfactsâ! I do not, personally, believe in a âmulti-dimensional space alienâ (a simplistic description of what Judeo-christians refer to as "Godâ). I totally understand the need of some people for a belief in a âhigher powerâ, otherwise known as a âfatherâ figure. One thing I have learned from raising two children of my own; you never tell a âchildâ that they donât âneedâ their âfatherâ!
just love bible references from those who didnât read it properly. In this case the bible states that Noah was to collect two of every âuncleanâ animal and seven of any animal considered âcleanâ.
A 20 foot rise in sea level is quite enough to cause serious problems to humans and other species. The Noah story would require the water to be over 25,000 feet deep, and of course those plants grew really fast for the dove to bring a sprig from a devastated planet. Science doesnât deny religion, but it asks questions ârelgious folksâ of the radical nature, simply canât answer, so theyâre willing to destroy the planet again because, âonly Godâ can cause real problems.
Even Orthodox Jews, who are not atheists, are concerned with how to understand Bible stories without violating laws of nature. Have a look at this: https://www.lookstein.org/articles/flood_man.pdf .
Dtroutma over 7 years ago
Or leviathons?
Adiraiju over 7 years ago
âYou WILL need two of every ground beetle species, though. Get goinâ.â
Alabama Al over 7 years ago
I thought the Almighty took care of that detail by willing representative members of each species to the Ark.
coomback over 7 years ago
I always wanted to see the overhead luggage bins deploy the oxygen masks beings they were higher than Everest âŚ
Say What Nowâ˝ Premium Member over 7 years ago
My favorite part is where the pumpkin is turned into a coach. Oh, wait, I think that is a different fairytale.
GiantShetlandPony over 7 years ago
Whatâs the difference between line breeding and inbreeding?;);););););)You call it line breeding when it works.
Lyons Group, Inc. over 7 years ago
Thereâs a logical reason for that. If Noah did collected the two fish, well after the flood, they wouldnât have very far to go after they got off the ark.
Richard Howland-Bolton Premium Member over 7 years ago
Actually, if it were normal rain, all the salt-water fishes would die as salination of the seas decreased. Thank goodness itâs just a story, and thank God Iâm an atheist.
There are wide-spread flood stories, and Iâve thought for a long time itâs because so many early civilisations started next to big riversâIndus Valley; Mesopotamia, Egypt. I imagine the family sitting on the roof during the latest inundation whilst Grandpa is scornfully lecturing them: âPah! In my day we had floods that would make this look like a drought!â
Unless it was in Egypt when he would start âPtah!âŚ..â
whiteheron over 7 years ago
Riiight. I have just one question. Whatâs a cubit?
sandpiper over 7 years ago
Gotta pity the guy that had to change the newspapers and litter boxes
Phred Premium Member over 7 years ago
Funny comic and interesting comments (as typical for Non Sequitur).
Masterskrain over 7 years ago
Wait until he has to figure out how to get all the critters from Australia to Mesopotamia with NO direct route, OR food sources along the way! AND THEN how to make sure that they ALL go back to JUST THERE, so we donât end up with Wallabies, Kangaroos and Koalas in CincinnatiâŚ
tkcoker over 7 years ago
Science does not prove that the Bible stories are true in the way that most people want it to be proven but taken into context I have never found the Bible and science to conflict. In fact I have found that it actually proves that most of the Bible stories that so many claim are myths could have or did actually occur. As I was once told always use the 20/20 rule when quoting any verse of the Bible. âInclude the previous and following 20 verses to understand any one verse.â
wdgnas over 7 years ago
jojo: i heard a radio broadcast of a hockey game, "jesus saves, passes to gretsky who scooooresâŚ
wdgnas over 7 years ago
jojo: jesus saves at kmartâŚ
goblue86 over 7 years ago
I found Jesus! Heâs outside mowing the back yard⌠(my apologies to my friends in the hispanic community)
Masterskrain over 7 years ago
âJesus Savesâ! (But the Wise Men invest in long-term bonds and treasury notesâŚ)
AZPhinFan over 7 years ago
What is amusing about this is that all of the âBible bashersâ here give evidence through their comments that they really know nothing about the account of Noah or the Bible itself. Itâs so easy to criticize and dismiss the the Bible when you havenât taken the time to actually read it. And yes, we know they will all claim they have read it cover to cover âŚ..sure, yeah right.
For one thing, when Jehovah God told Noah that He would make it rain for 40 days and nights, there is no indication that Noah asked âwhat is rainâ. There is nothing in the Bible to suggest it had never rained before that or that people didnât know what rain is. To the contrary, Noah began work immediately building the ark exactly as directed including a roof. He didnât ask what a roof is for. In the creation account in genesis chapter 1 weâre told the sun would dominate by day [i.e. would shine] and chapter 1 also mentions âseasonsâ. The only mention of there being no rain was early on in the creation process before plants and vegetation appeared in the period of the 3rd creative âdayâ chapter 2 vs 5,6. Itâs important to note that the 6 creative days were thousands of years long or longer
nosirrom over 7 years ago
Wiley, could we move on to a different Ark Story.. er .. I mean Story Arc?
Richard S Russell Premium Member over 7 years ago
Bob Seidensticker over at the âCross Examinedâ blog takes on this very subject in his last 2 posts:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2017/10/noah-movie-review/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2017/10/dismantling-noah-story/
Bottom line is that youâve basically got to be either crazy or a willing dupe of a âholyâ con man to buy into this gigantic whopper.
UpaCoCoCreek Premium Member over 7 years ago
Sounds like Gods gonna âteach a man to fishâ.
Masterskrain over 7 years ago
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_flood
Read this, itâs QUITE interesting, and ends the MYTH of the flood once and for all!ladykat Premium Member over 7 years ago
And here Noah thought he was going on a fishing tripâŚ
Nuliajuk over 7 years ago
One hypothesis about the flood stories has to do with the Bosphurus sill. The Black sea was an inland freshwater lake surrounded by early agricultural communities until the end of the last ice age, when water from the Mediterranean pushed over the narrow rocky barrier into it due to rising waters from melting glaciers. This flooded out some of the earliest farming communities and led to folk tales about a great flood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis
Packratjohn Premium Member over 7 years ago
Whaddya mean itâs not a bass boat??
dabugger over 7 years ago
Wait for whatever.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] over 7 years ago
And then there are the creatures who are the âfishers of Menâ.
AtypicalReader over 7 years ago
I honestly donât care what sort of religious beliefs people might have, itâs when they try to force them on me that I begin objecting.
somebodyshort over 7 years ago
Global warming is leading to ocean level rising. Start building your own ark. This is what the Bible is predicting.
GiantShetlandPony over 7 years ago
Off topic technical question:
Would there be anyway to create a three minute edit window. And yes, I have done the copy, delete and fix, but would be easier to do a quick edit. Is the programing for such a thing more complex than I think it is?
wellis1947 Premium Member over 7 years ago
Science deals with verifiable fact while ANY religion deals with matters of faith. You must understand that âfactâ and âfaithâ are âapplesâ and âorangesâ! By definition, one CANNOT prove an article of faith by the production of âfactsâ! I do not, personally, believe in a âmulti-dimensional space alienâ (a simplistic description of what Judeo-christians refer to as "Godâ). I totally understand the need of some people for a belief in a âhigher powerâ, otherwise known as a âfatherâ figure. One thing I have learned from raising two children of my own; you never tell a âchildâ that they donât âneedâ their âfatherâ!
sufamelico over 7 years ago
You say âI am and atheistâ And you âthank Godâ ? Okay now which is it going to be, One or the other!
SFpagan over 7 years ago
just love bible references from those who didnât read it properly. In this case the bible states that Noah was to collect two of every âuncleanâ animal and seven of any animal considered âcleanâ.
jbruins84341 over 7 years ago
âTwo mosquitoes (male or female).â
BQuirky over 7 years ago
âthank God Iâm an atheistâ Seriously?? Think about itâŚ
Dtroutma over 7 years ago
A 20 foot rise in sea level is quite enough to cause serious problems to humans and other species. The Noah story would require the water to be over 25,000 feet deep, and of course those plants grew really fast for the dove to bring a sprig from a devastated planet. Science doesnât deny religion, but it asks questions ârelgious folksâ of the radical nature, simply canât answer, so theyâre willing to destroy the planet again because, âonly Godâ can cause real problems.
goblue86 over 7 years ago
By a show of hands, how many of you believe in any of the following gods: Zeus? Apollo? Vulcan? Anyone. Anyone.
Nobody?
Ok..so youâre all ATHEISTS when it comes to those godsâŚ
DavidMescheloff over 7 years ago
Even Orthodox Jews, who are not atheists, are concerned with how to understand Bible stories without violating laws of nature. Have a look at this: https://www.lookstein.org/articles/flood_man.pdf .
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] over 7 years ago
What Atheists argue. We just go the final step the believers in only one deity are while being atheist to all the rest.