It’s the “Say what you will…” part that gets me. “I’ll excuse anything as long as he does something I agree with.” How does that work in their lives? “…where she reviewed her Honor Guard for the first time in 70 years, they tell me.” Is lying to have something to brag about excusable in their children, family or friends?
“Say what you will about him…” I’ll STILL support him even as he sells us out to Russia, and drives the economy into Bankruptcy with his stupid “Tariffs” and other blindly incompetent meddling in things he has NO CLUE about.
When you say “but,” you’re saying “please ignore everything I just said in the first half of this sentence.”
When you say “say what you will,” you’re saying “I will ignore a counter-argument no matter how much evidence you have.”
I remember how pissed off “conservatives” used to get when people said “say what you will” about Obama; it’s rather ironic that Trump gets “say what you will” even more, and now it pisses off the “liberals”.
And now they’re both pissed off at me, because self-awareness is the rarest commodity in political discourse today.
Yes, the mom is a trump supporter and lives in a trailer. Because the working class needed a champion so they hired someone who was born a millionaire and opposes anything that would help the working poor, such as Head Start or Affordable Health Care, all while cutting taxes for millionaires.
from where I sit the question was “would you rather have a lie that lifts you up? or a truth that holds you in contempt?” Trailer park communities aren’t bad places to live, depends on the neighbor’s and who is inside the trailer. Single family homes are the same way.
Learning young to be close-minded. When they get older they will silence Grandma or drive her out of the room.— With the level of invective in this country, it would perhaps be better if we split the nation, so that the liberal ends of it can govern themselves as they please, and brag that they are and what they are doing is so much better than the middle.
…b2, since I am trolling here today, you have a point. The kids should humour grandma. Politeness should be taught…but I find it ironic that you hold these characters to a higher standard than the right wing prejudice grandma…
… I think that is the point the cartoon is trying to make…
So, the moral lesson here is to teach your kids to not engage with a dissenting opinion, and walk out of the room, automatically confident that your truth is impermeable?
The moral lesson is to keep your children from being exposed to a very poor role model, in the case of trump. All of the presidents have had their flaws, just not to such an extent as we see with trump, who seems to go on and on in terms of negative behavior.
The kids aren’t avoiding grandma, they are avoiding trump. Trump is kind of a freak as potuses go. Offensive and rude behavior can’t be explained as conservative or simply another POV. Trump is not ok. He engaged in behavior which also made him an illegitimate office holder. Nothing about trump is perfectly ok and as a responsible citizen I can’t act as if it is.
Responsible Republicans should realize that they too could someday be targeted by a foreign government in an election. They should realize they could lose next time it happens and be ok with it since they believe Democrats should be ok with foreign interference and treasonous behavior during an election.
I agree with having the children leave the room. They are far too young to understand anything that will be discussed. When I was a child and the adults wanted to discuss politics, we kids were sent outside or downstairs to play, much to our relief, since we would have been bored to death. Even when I was teenager with some concept of what was going on in the world, I was spared from the fate of being a political target. I visited a foreign country for a summer, right at the height of the Vietnam War. I found out at the end of my visit that the teacher at the school I attended had told the students before I arrived that they were NOT to question me about Vietnam. He said I was 16 years old, I had no control over what my country did, and I was to be left alone about that subject. I am to this day grateful to him for sparing me possible grief in a situation that was a truly wonderful experience that I enjoyed immensely.
All the gnashing and wailing about the plight of the poor illegals could be solved in every progressive/liberal that is vocal about them would get busy and provide a sponsorship of one immigrant. Here is the link to the government program for said sponsorship. https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/affidavit-support
BE THIS GUY over 6 years ago
We know who picked the boys’ summer camp.
Dtroutma over 6 years ago
Well taught to reject insanity and remain gracious to the victim.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 6 years ago
Even those opposed to judging are judgmental about those who do.
Liverlips McCracken Premium Member over 6 years ago
And baby makes three.
Krokodil over 6 years ago
I was unaware of the new baby, when did that happen?
Say What Now‽ Premium Member over 6 years ago
She will love it when the trailer park has to close due to a high vacancy rate and a labor shortage.
Rosette over 6 years ago
And just WHEN did Alex have another baby? And cut her hair? They grow up so fast!
SKJAM! Premium Member over 6 years ago
The current administration won’t lift a finger to help when the owner of the land sells it out from beneath Grammy’s home.
For a Just and Peaceful World over 6 years ago
Tattoos: Why do people who have no money spend money to have gas station art injected into their skin?
well-i-never over 6 years ago
It’s the “Say what you will…” part that gets me. “I’ll excuse anything as long as he does something I agree with.” How does that work in their lives? “…where she reviewed her Honor Guard for the first time in 70 years, they tell me.” Is lying to have something to brag about excusable in their children, family or friends?
Masterskrain over 6 years ago
“Say what you will about him…” I’ll STILL support him even as he sells us out to Russia, and drives the economy into Bankruptcy with his stupid “Tariffs” and other blindly incompetent meddling in things he has NO CLUE about.
DoonesburyFollower over 6 years ago
For those of you asking about Alex’s third kid, see the 4 Feb strip: https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2018/2/4
jeffiekins over 6 years ago
“Say what you will” is like a pre-emptive “but”.
When you say “but,” you’re saying “please ignore everything I just said in the first half of this sentence.”
When you say “say what you will,” you’re saying “I will ignore a counter-argument no matter how much evidence you have.”
I remember how pissed off “conservatives” used to get when people said “say what you will” about Obama; it’s rather ironic that Trump gets “say what you will” even more, and now it pisses off the “liberals”.
And now they’re both pissed off at me, because self-awareness is the rarest commodity in political discourse today.
montessoriteacher over 6 years ago
Lots of Russian trolls out early today.
montessoriteacher over 6 years ago
Yes, the mom is a trump supporter and lives in a trailer. Because the working class needed a champion so they hired someone who was born a millionaire and opposes anything that would help the working poor, such as Head Start or Affordable Health Care, all while cutting taxes for millionaires.
joefearsnothing over 6 years ago
In my opinion, that camp is “progressing” in the wrong direction! BTW all of us “deplorables” do not live in trailer parks!
montessoriteacher over 6 years ago
No one said all trumpsters live in trailers, but many do.
3hourtour Premium Member over 6 years ago
… I am no Trump fan, but unless some kind of major turn around event happens he will win the next presidential election…
… the right wing FAKE News propaganda machine is too strong for Trump supporters to be turned by just a Sunday Doonesbury strip…
… but maybe if new a Doonesbury ran 7 days a week…
montessoriteacher over 6 years ago
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. John Stuart Mill
KateStewart-Taylor over 6 years ago
from where I sit the question was “would you rather have a lie that lifts you up? or a truth that holds you in contempt?” Trailer park communities aren’t bad places to live, depends on the neighbor’s and who is inside the trailer. Single family homes are the same way.
Whatever happened to common sense? over 6 years ago
Smart kids!
Chris Sherlock over 6 years ago
Those kids will go far in life!
rickmac1937 Premium Member over 6 years ago
Gary this is the first decent one in about 4months. Time to pull the plug.
MarkTaggart Premium Member over 6 years ago
I leave the room every time this happens. too.
b2plusa2 over 6 years ago
Learning young to be close-minded. When they get older they will silence Grandma or drive her out of the room.— With the level of invective in this country, it would perhaps be better if we split the nation, so that the liberal ends of it can govern themselves as they please, and brag that they are and what they are doing is so much better than the middle.
David_J Premium Member over 6 years ago
I just came here to watch the #Cult45 snowflakes melt from the intense heat. LOL
3hourtour Premium Member over 6 years ago
…b2, since I am trolling here today, you have a point. The kids should humour grandma. Politeness should be taught…but I find it ironic that you hold these characters to a higher standard than the right wing prejudice grandma…
… I think that is the point the cartoon is trying to make…
BE THIS GUY over 6 years ago
To all those asking when baby #3 showed up:
https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2018/2/4
frequency270 over 6 years ago
So, the moral lesson here is to teach your kids to not engage with a dissenting opinion, and walk out of the room, automatically confident that your truth is impermeable?
montessoriteacher over 6 years ago
The moral lesson is to keep your children from being exposed to a very poor role model, in the case of trump. All of the presidents have had their flaws, just not to such an extent as we see with trump, who seems to go on and on in terms of negative behavior.
Liam Astle Premium Member over 6 years ago
I remember when they were called reeducation camps.
montessoriteacher over 6 years ago
The kids aren’t avoiding grandma, they are avoiding trump. Trump is kind of a freak as potuses go. Offensive and rude behavior can’t be explained as conservative or simply another POV. Trump is not ok. He engaged in behavior which also made him an illegitimate office holder. Nothing about trump is perfectly ok and as a responsible citizen I can’t act as if it is.
montessoriteacher over 6 years ago
Responsible Republicans should realize that they too could someday be targeted by a foreign government in an election. They should realize they could lose next time it happens and be ok with it since they believe Democrats should be ok with foreign interference and treasonous behavior during an election.
gopher gofer over 6 years ago
⇧ “Learning young to be close-minded”
people will definitely take you seriously if you write this way…
finnygirl Premium Member over 6 years ago
I agree with having the children leave the room. They are far too young to understand anything that will be discussed. When I was a child and the adults wanted to discuss politics, we kids were sent outside or downstairs to play, much to our relief, since we would have been bored to death. Even when I was teenager with some concept of what was going on in the world, I was spared from the fate of being a political target. I visited a foreign country for a summer, right at the height of the Vietnam War. I found out at the end of my visit that the teacher at the school I attended had told the students before I arrived that they were NOT to question me about Vietnam. He said I was 16 years old, I had no control over what my country did, and I was to be left alone about that subject. I am to this day grateful to him for sparing me possible grief in a situation that was a truly wonderful experience that I enjoyed immensely.
BeniHanna6 Premium Member over 6 years ago
All the gnashing and wailing about the plight of the poor illegals could be solved in every progressive/liberal that is vocal about them would get busy and provide a sponsorship of one immigrant. Here is the link to the government program for said sponsorship. https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/affidavit-support
phlash over 6 years ago
Be good little liberals and run away before you have to confront a truth that doesn’t fit your narrow little view.