On reflection, I think the Sunday strips are the way they are because the Sunday comics section in print journalism has a different audience than the daily comics, and that said audience skews younger because it includes significant numbers of kids. Some papers may not even carry weekday strips any more, so gags that would tie back to the current plot arcs might not work.
I understand about the different deadlines but don’t buy that as a good reason. It seems possible to just draw them in order anyhow.
If it makes you feel better, Frank, your daughter is the butt of the joke WAY more often than you, yet she takes it with good humor. You could learn a lesson from her.
I refused to watch “Make Room for Daddy” in the early to mid 1950s when I was a young child because the children treated him with such disrespect. I had a huge response to this disrespect because I didn’t have a daddy and wanted one desperately. I agree wholeheartedly with Frank. Daddies are not treated well in the media.
Read “Dumbing down Dad: How media present husbands, fathers as useless”. “The habit is that men are of secondary importance in the life of a family. Therefore we all kind of expect men to be secondary. And it’s not surprising that attitude plays itself out in many ways in our culture: in media portrayals and in the habits we have as families.”
Woah! Philosophical, “meta”, self-referential, thought-provoking, and FUNNY all at once! The best damn Sunday “Luann” in a long time (even though many are good)!
I have made this observation several times in the comics: The “joke” often is dads can’t cook; dads can’t do laundry; dads can’t babysit; dads can’t shop; yeah, funny stuff.
Maybe Frazz could finally have a kid—a kid of his own that he can interact with at home, as opposed to kids he interacts with at his workplace. Because no one ever makes Frazz the butt of a joke. He’s perfect and he’s not afraid to admit as much!
On a different topic… This strip is always funny but today’s topic hits on a pet peeve of mine. Many of the problems in today’s society is that there is a lack of a solid male role model present in children’s lives. Dads are as important as moms in a child’s upbringing and development. Yet in so many TV commercials, TV sitcoms, movies, comic strips, and other media, dads are portrayed as the buffoon and the one member of a family that is not to be taken seriously. I think a lot of the problems we have in our society would benefit if fatherhood would be more widely celebrated and be a thing of honor and respect rather than being disparaged. I am with Luann’s dad and her mom’s reply is and an example of my despair.
When my children were born, I have 3, invariably I got calls, ’how’s the baby’, ’how’s Alex’, later how are the little ones with the baby’ etc. NEVER once did anyone, including my mother, ask me how I was doing. BTW, the first baby a son, was the roughest delivery and required my wife to be hospitalized, ( we had used a birthing center). The 2nd son was easier by far. The third, my daughter, was born about a month early, and although she looked normal, was only barely 5 pounds, and needed to stay in the neo-natal ward because she had breathing issues. Never once did anyone ask me how I was handling it.At my 2nd son’s christening, I stepped into the men’s room, to pee, which seriously does not take long, came out and found out 20 minutes later that they took a family picture of my wife, the baby, and my older son together. They said they ‘looked’ for me, could not find me and so decided to take the shot without me.As if the men’s room was such an outrageous place for me to be. I would have looked there first. Also, they never gave me any warning. I was insulted but told to calm down.To this day it still pisses me off and he is 27.
So disrespecting fathers annoys me. We raise them too. We cannot biologically give birth but when my wife nearly died from bleeding, I thought i would be a widower raising a son.When my daughter had to be hospitalized 3 weeks after release from neo-natal, I was just as concerned as anyone would be.I was back to work, had to rush to the ER, and again, when the news got out, it was me answering the phone, to all the concerns about the baby ( rightly so, and my wife, and my 2 sons, all justified.) Not one query as to how I was handling any of the stress.
So if I sound like boo-hoo as someone in this thread of comments said. TOUGH &?%
This is the standard throughout entertainment. Precisely because political correctness has put most other people into “protected classes”. White males are still fair game.
The oldest example of this self-referential complaint that I can recall was voiced by Robert Young, on Father Knows Best. Although his character was usually on top of things, there was an episode where he voiced his resentment of the portrayal of the dad character on a sitcom the family was watching.
This is so philosophical people, after all this is just a Sunday gag day joke. Frank is totally the dad, the basis, along with Nancy of Luannverse, and when necessary, his Dad card is played beautifully. Like I explained above I am one of those dad less kids, so dads have always been huge with me. I wish I had one I could love and laugh at and with. That would not take one whit from my respect for him. Only make me respect me more.
This has been a sitcom-crutch since the 1950’s … and it just kept growing, getting worse. The problem has been – those actors buy right into it (think Danny Thomas, the Flintstones, the Jetsons, Happy Days, most shows on a Friday night line-up, all that and more.
Actors like Tim Allen, Jim Belushi, (of course, Bill Cosby), amongst SO many others ‘bought into it’ … Yet THEY were the ones being paid Big Bucks for being the ‘Fall Guy’ … That’s what it is in the sitcom world – but the problem is those who watch the stuff have treated their real fathers the same way, by watching the example, and most real dads don’t get paid for that afterward. …
It’s been this way for awhile and it’s too bad. Frankly if Nancy was the butt of the joke from time to time, it would make for more well-rounded comic strip. Moms can be funny too.
yep it is and it was pretty funny too, but wouldn’t it have been better if it was the other way around? since it was international women’s day? honestly i had no idea that day even existed at all
Namrepus over 4 years ago
Or maybe he’s tired of being married to a wise—
Templo S.U.D. over 4 years ago
I guess the prosecution rests after hearing what his wife said to the daughter?
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 4 years ago
He marched right in to that one.
LeeCox over 4 years ago
Not helping, Nancy!
circleM over 4 years ago
Sad but true…
Need coffee over 4 years ago
How very meta.
On reflection, I think the Sunday strips are the way they are because the Sunday comics section in print journalism has a different audience than the daily comics, and that said audience skews younger because it includes significant numbers of kids. Some papers may not even carry weekday strips any more, so gags that would tie back to the current plot arcs might not work.
I understand about the different deadlines but don’t buy that as a good reason. It seems possible to just draw them in order anyhow.
pseudomao over 4 years ago
The comic Frank is looking at is this exact one from today – it’s a time warp… or something
BJShipley1 over 4 years ago
If it makes you feel better, Frank, your daughter is the butt of the joke WAY more often than you, yet she takes it with good humor. You could learn a lesson from her.
Pointspread over 4 years ago
So he got the punchline in the end.
mddshubby2005 over 4 years ago
This would be funny, if Luann did funny anymore…
luann1212 over 4 years ago
Hilarity ensues.
The Pro from Dover over 4 years ago
That’s why Bob Newhart didn’t want to have kids on his show. He said the scripts then turn into look at dumb daddy, look what dumb daddy did.
kenhense over 4 years ago
Nancy hit a foul ball. Time for another pitch.
Rhetorical_Question over 4 years ago
For those who didn’t notice, Frank is reading a Luann Comics Strip.Cute gag !
Brdshtt Premium Member over 4 years ago
Imagine seeing yourself in a comic strip real time. Welcome to the Twilight Zone, Frank.
sallymargret over 4 years ago
I refused to watch “Make Room for Daddy” in the early to mid 1950s when I was a young child because the children treated him with such disrespect. I had a huge response to this disrespect because I didn’t have a daddy and wanted one desperately. I agree wholeheartedly with Frank. Daddies are not treated well in the media.
Read “Dumbing down Dad: How media present husbands, fathers as useless”. “The habit is that men are of secondary importance in the life of a family. Therefore we all kind of expect men to be secondary. And it’s not surprising that attitude plays itself out in many ways in our culture: in media portrayals and in the habits we have as families.”
Aibohphobia over 4 years ago
Well done, Team E. Well done.
Purple People Eater over 4 years ago
If you look closely and compare, the strip he’s reading is today’s Luann.
Aladar30 Premium Member over 4 years ago
Meta humor with break of the fourth wall, strips called “Oh Dad” and “Ok Boomer”, inevitable hilarious end. AWESOME SUNDAY!
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 4 years ago
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Woah! Philosophical, “meta”, self-referential, thought-provoking, and FUNNY all at once! The best damn Sunday “Luann” in a long time (even though many are good)!
dv1093 over 4 years ago
I have made this observation several times in the comics: The “joke” often is dads can’t cook; dads can’t do laundry; dads can’t babysit; dads can’t shop; yeah, funny stuff.
Mordock999 Premium Member over 4 years ago
In other words, “Poppa is a SAP,” eh Frank? I’m sure Fred Flintstone, George Jetson, and Dagwood Bumstead would agree with you.
But look at it this way. If it weren’t for the “Dads” as comedic targets, they’d just go back to making fun of the Nerds.
So thank you for being a “Dad” and taking the Heat…….,
Bernedoodle over 4 years ago
Is Nancy’s comment a double entendre?
Tyge over 4 years ago
AND THERE YOU ARE!!!!
Tyge over 4 years ago
Pretty cheeky if you ask me!
Tyge over 4 years ago
Rodney Dangerfield was the epitome of the “get no respect” genre.
Andrew Sleeth over 4 years ago
Mom looks like she might have a nice one herself.
Ellis97 over 4 years ago
That destroys the fourth wall on so many levels.
mitchkeos Premium Member over 4 years ago
I’m with Dad on this one.
mjb515 over 4 years ago
Now all Dads feel unsafe as targets of patriphobia.
currysteph Premium Member over 4 years ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/18/opinion/the-doofus-dad.html
currysteph Premium Member over 4 years ago
and thats from 2005…its gotten worse since then (see previous comment)
ksu71 over 4 years ago
So how did “DAD” on the coffee mug get turned upside down in the third panel?
sallymargret over 4 years ago
I hate Daylight Saving Time!
kauri44 over 4 years ago
This is the strip Greg chose for International Women’s Day?
tcayer over 4 years ago
EVERY Medium is like that. Sitcoms, dad is clueless, wife and kids are smart. Ads, the man doesn’t know what’s going on. It’s pervasive.
joefearsnothing over 4 years ago
As a Dad, I resemble that remark! ;o{
FassEddie over 4 years ago
I called it yesterday! ‘Sunday’s are for the parents.” I feel so schmart! I’m takin’ the day off! (see yesterdays strip. Seriously, I’ll wait.)
Bucinka over 4 years ago
Nice coffee mug.
Caldonia over 4 years ago
Maybe Frazz could finally have a kid—a kid of his own that he can interact with at home, as opposed to kids he interacts with at his workplace. Because no one ever makes Frazz the butt of a joke. He’s perfect and he’s not afraid to admit as much!
froyer Premium Member over 4 years ago
On a different topic… This strip is always funny but today’s topic hits on a pet peeve of mine. Many of the problems in today’s society is that there is a lack of a solid male role model present in children’s lives. Dads are as important as moms in a child’s upbringing and development. Yet in so many TV commercials, TV sitcoms, movies, comic strips, and other media, dads are portrayed as the buffoon and the one member of a family that is not to be taken seriously. I think a lot of the problems we have in our society would benefit if fatherhood would be more widely celebrated and be a thing of honor and respect rather than being disparaged. I am with Luann’s dad and her mom’s reply is and an example of my despair.
Airman over 4 years ago
But, Frank doesn’t fit that description. And, I say “But, Frank”, not “Butt Frank.”
KEA over 4 years ago
He’s got a point, but I grew up with early TV sitcoms that made dad look like a complete idiot… at least until Father Knows Best came along.
bob-droid12 over 4 years ago
And if the oldest child in a fictional story is a boy, there usually make him out to be a big dumb idiot. Look at Brad Pre-Toni.
ForrestOverin over 4 years ago
If you’re looking for chronic spousal disrespect, pay a visit to “Pickles”.
Terminal Frost Premium Member over 4 years ago
When my children were born, I have 3, invariably I got calls, ’how’s the baby’, ’how’s Alex’, later how are the little ones with the baby’ etc. NEVER once did anyone, including my mother, ask me how I was doing. BTW, the first baby a son, was the roughest delivery and required my wife to be hospitalized, ( we had used a birthing center). The 2nd son was easier by far. The third, my daughter, was born about a month early, and although she looked normal, was only barely 5 pounds, and needed to stay in the neo-natal ward because she had breathing issues. Never once did anyone ask me how I was handling it.At my 2nd son’s christening, I stepped into the men’s room, to pee, which seriously does not take long, came out and found out 20 minutes later that they took a family picture of my wife, the baby, and my older son together. They said they ‘looked’ for me, could not find me and so decided to take the shot without me.As if the men’s room was such an outrageous place for me to be. I would have looked there first. Also, they never gave me any warning. I was insulted but told to calm down.To this day it still pisses me off and he is 27.
So disrespecting fathers annoys me. We raise them too. We cannot biologically give birth but when my wife nearly died from bleeding, I thought i would be a widower raising a son.When my daughter had to be hospitalized 3 weeks after release from neo-natal, I was just as concerned as anyone would be.I was back to work, had to rush to the ER, and again, when the news got out, it was me answering the phone, to all the concerns about the baby ( rightly so, and my wife, and my 2 sons, all justified.) Not one query as to how I was handling any of the stress.
So if I sound like boo-hoo as someone in this thread of comments said. TOUGH &?%
Ukko wilko over 4 years ago
This is the standard throughout entertainment. Precisely because political correctness has put most other people into “protected classes”. White males are still fair game.
Schrodinger's Dog over 4 years ago
The comics he’s reading in panel #2 are “Oh Dad” and “OK Boomer” !
random boredom over 4 years ago
I absolutely love the detail on this one where Dad’s reading this same comic he is on.
paullp Premium Member over 4 years ago
The oldest example of this self-referential complaint that I can recall was voiced by Robert Young, on Father Knows Best. Although his character was usually on top of things, there was an episode where he voiced his resentment of the portrayal of the dad character on a sitcom the family was watching.
luann1212 over 4 years ago
This is so philosophical people, after all this is just a Sunday gag day joke. Frank is totally the dad, the basis, along with Nancy of Luannverse, and when necessary, his Dad card is played beautifully. Like I explained above I am one of those dad less kids, so dads have always been huge with me. I wish I had one I could love and laugh at and with. That would not take one whit from my respect for him. Only make me respect me more.
donwestonmysteries over 4 years ago
So, No more DAD jokes?
namelocdet over 4 years ago
Look at Frank’s coffee mug in the first panel. In the third panel, the “Dad” is upside down.
Joe1962 over 4 years ago
I feel for you Frank but most Sunday’s you are the butt of the jokes.
Code the Enforcer over 4 years ago
This has been a sitcom-crutch since the 1950’s … and it just kept growing, getting worse. The problem has been – those actors buy right into it (think Danny Thomas, the Flintstones, the Jetsons, Happy Days, most shows on a Friday night line-up, all that and more.
Actors like Tim Allen, Jim Belushi, (of course, Bill Cosby), amongst SO many others ‘bought into it’ … Yet THEY were the ones being paid Big Bucks for being the ‘Fall Guy’ … That’s what it is in the sitcom world – but the problem is those who watch the stuff have treated their real fathers the same way, by watching the example, and most real dads don’t get paid for that afterward. …
howtheduck over 4 years ago
It’s been this way for awhile and it’s too bad. Frankly if Nancy was the butt of the joke from time to time, it would make for more well-rounded comic strip. Moms can be funny too.
sapepgoldman over 4 years ago
Anyone notice that the strip he’s looking at is today’s Luann IE: himself?
Eric S over 4 years ago
Ugh. I gotta stop reading Sunday Luann. Where’s Brad and Toni and the newborn?
Bernedoodle over 4 years ago
Tiffany’s Dad is a butt….!
skunky1960 over 4 years ago
So very true! And the worst is “Betty”
bakana over 4 years ago
A Prophet is without Honor in his own home.
Bernedoodle over 4 years ago
I just noticed hair color. Is Luann a Clairol girl?
Sisyphos over 4 years ago
I detect Truthsaying, flavored with just a pinch of irony.
Greg is the Dad of this strip, hmm?
Airman over 4 years ago
All this talk about butts, I thought this was another Kardashian critique.
Cstimpy25 over 4 years ago
yep it is and it was pretty funny too, but wouldn’t it have been better if it was the other way around? since it was international women’s day? honestly i had no idea that day even existed at all
Cstimpy25 over 4 years ago
i wasn’t trying to sound sexist so my apologies if it came out that way
passthejelly over 4 years ago
Help,Frank.Laundry….basket….getting….heavier……..
Petemejia77 over 4 years ago
Brian Regan has a funny bit on the “Dumb Dad” cliche.