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Air Pirates? Puppets? (Yeah, I know the latter could refer to âpuppets of the ruling class or imperialist running dogsâ or whatever, but after âair pirates,â it sounds odd.)
In any case, this doesnât really seem like something to joke about.
A) maybe Mikeâs mother was right about it not being a good place to go for their honeymoon B) why does the lady reading the report look angry in the final panel? She shouldnât take her anger out on Kim and Mike. C) I rather like Mikeâs hopefully optimistic punchline here.
An issue with the survivors of any major war. Iâm surprised there were such good records in Viet Nam, much of the records in Eastern Europe were destroyed during WWII.
There was a point in history when Ho Chi Minh asked the United States government how committed it was to the whole concept of self-determination and, if we were true to that ideal, why didnât we exert pressure on our French friends to get the hell out of their colonial empire. Not only did we not do that, we picked up where the French left off in the name of our Cold War paranoia.
We make much (not wrongly) of the 58,000 Americans killed in the Vietnam war, but Vietnam (both sides) lost 3.5 to 4 million people (though estimates vary), out of a much smaller total population. Thatâs not counting the deaths in Laos and Cambodia. Nor does it count all the people killed since 1975 by remaining land mines, unexploded ordinance, Agent Orange poisoning, and other lingering effects of the war.
This is the cost of war and 20 years from now there will be children like her in Ukraine and Yemen and other places where human life is destroyed in the name of what is it exactly?
So, yeah, letâs do what we can to stop the Putin regimeâs giant war crime that is the invasion of UkraineâŠbut letâs not think that we can be all self-righteous. To those of us old enough, it all sounds too damn familiar.
When I was in Viet Nam a few years ago, everywhere people were welcoming and friendly. Of course they would be because they needed our dollars and the guides were all government vetted â but they were, in general, up front with us. Each one complained about the propaganda loudspeakers that wake everyone up early in the morning for example, or that they had âheard the police in Australia were there to actually help people was that true?â, or âYou might think this odd, I know I do, but every visitor to Hanoi is required to visit Ho Chi Minhâs tombâ, etc, etc. Hanoi, Ha Long Bay, Hoi An, Ho Chi Minh City, every where we went, were all great.
Except in Hue. The hotel was crap, and I donât mean just run down, I mean crap, and the staff were sullen. Sign on the wall next to the elevator read âNo women or durian in the roomsâ. At least the elevator worked, after a fashion. The tour guide was surly and just dumped us at the Imperial City without a word. The city of Hue itself sort of seemed like it had been forgotten by everybody and the inhabitants were all depressed, the infrastructure left to rot. I couldnât wait to get out of Hue.
Yngvar FĂžlling almost 3 years ago
I remember having recently watched Red Dwarf, and wondering if the âDead, dead, everyone deadâ was a reference to that.
30 almost 3 years ago
Never heard either expression before and I was drafted 12/7/67.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Air Pirates? Puppets? (Yeah, I know the latter could refer to âpuppets of the ruling class or imperialist running dogsâ or whatever, but after âair pirates,â it sounds odd.)
In any case, this doesnât really seem like something to joke about.
STEPUP almost 3 years ago
Terry & The Pirates???? A comic strip from long ago!!!
sugordon almost 3 years ago
A) maybe Mikeâs mother was right about it not being a good place to go for their honeymoon B) why does the lady reading the report look angry in the final panel? She shouldnât take her anger out on Kim and Mike. C) I rather like Mikeâs hopefully optimistic punchline here.
chesed613 almost 3 years ago
And thatâs why Doonsbury does itâŠ.
MaggieK9 almost 3 years ago
The âair piratesâ were the brave soldiers mowing down the people with machine guns mounted in helicopters
nicka93 almost 3 years ago
I would look closer to the âpuppetsâ
robertthomasson Premium Member almost 3 years ago
âSaigon? I am still only in Saigon?â
TheWildSow almost 3 years ago
Itâs been Ho Chi Minh City since 1976, but apparently the city center is still referred to as Saigon.
mourdac Premium Member almost 3 years ago
An issue with the survivors of any major war. Iâm surprised there were such good records in Viet Nam, much of the records in Eastern Europe were destroyed during WWII.
Richard S Russell Premium Member almost 3 years ago
There was a point in history when Ho Chi Minh asked the United States government how committed it was to the whole concept of self-determination and, if we were true to that ideal, why didnât we exert pressure on our French friends to get the hell out of their colonial empire. Not only did we not do that, we picked up where the French left off in the name of our Cold War paranoia.
E.Z. Smith Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I wish to ne killed by Air Pirates, but not too soon.
OshkoshJohn almost 3 years ago
âYankee Air Piratesâ same-same as USAF
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Wow. That even makes me feel lonely.
txmystic almost 3 years ago
Ah, honeymoon memoriesâŠ.
âDEAD! DEAD! EVERYONE DEAD!â
gantech almost 3 years ago
Mike Doonesbury: model of empathy.
mindjob almost 3 years ago
Sounds like a visit to the cemetary is next
preacherman Premium Member almost 3 years ago
That last panel is so full of insensitivity. Kim needs compassion, not just facts.
mistercatworks almost 3 years ago
A younger American would want to see the Air Pirate Puppet Museum.
dadlivonia almost 3 years ago
Howdy Doody went on a rampage after we sniffed some napalm in the morning
198.23.5.11 almost 3 years ago
Well,isnât SHE cheerful!
Should have tried Niagara Falls instead.
GaryCooper almost 3 years ago
We make much (not wrongly) of the 58,000 Americans killed in the Vietnam war, but Vietnam (both sides) lost 3.5 to 4 million people (though estimates vary), out of a much smaller total population. Thatâs not counting the deaths in Laos and Cambodia. Nor does it count all the people killed since 1975 by remaining land mines, unexploded ordinance, Agent Orange poisoning, and other lingering effects of the war.
sisterea almost 3 years ago
This is the cost of war and 20 years from now there will be children like her in Ukraine and Yemen and other places where human life is destroyed in the name of what is it exactly?
daddo52 almost 3 years ago
Well, she canât tell her all her relatives were executed by the communists for being friendly to the Americans, could she?
Ka`ĆnĆhi`ula`okahĆkĆ«miomio`ehiku Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Ouch! Well, it is MondayâŠ
LeslieAnn Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I can understand both womenâs feelings here. Mike? Iâm deeply disappointed in him.
Fuzzy Kombu almost 3 years ago
So, yeah, letâs do what we can to stop the Putin regimeâs giant war crime that is the invasion of UkraineâŠbut letâs not think that we can be all self-righteous. To those of us old enough, it all sounds too damn familiar.
comicsboi Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Puppets who kill. Great series.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppets_Who_Kill
hklsubs almost 3 years ago
I absolutely believe the attitude of the clerk.
When I was in Viet Nam a few years ago, everywhere people were welcoming and friendly. Of course they would be because they needed our dollars and the guides were all government vetted â but they were, in general, up front with us. Each one complained about the propaganda loudspeakers that wake everyone up early in the morning for example, or that they had âheard the police in Australia were there to actually help people was that true?â, or âYou might think this odd, I know I do, but every visitor to Hanoi is required to visit Ho Chi Minhâs tombâ, etc, etc. Hanoi, Ha Long Bay, Hoi An, Ho Chi Minh City, every where we went, were all great.
Except in Hue. The hotel was crap, and I donât mean just run down, I mean crap, and the staff were sullen. Sign on the wall next to the elevator read âNo women or durian in the roomsâ. At least the elevator worked, after a fashion. The tour guide was surly and just dumped us at the Imperial City without a word. The city of Hue itself sort of seemed like it had been forgotten by everybody and the inhabitants were all depressed, the infrastructure left to rot. I couldnât wait to get out of Hue.