They are both right. If the quote is a meaningful one, it’s worth repeating, no matter who said it. But Caulfield shouldn’t attribute it to Mark Twain if there’s no evidence that he ever said it. At a minimum he could say something like “Questionably attributed to Mark Twain”.
…more right? Sheldon: “Right and wrong are concepts not subject to gradation”. Stuart: “It’s a little wrong to say a tomato is a vegetable, it’s very wrong to say it’s a suspension bridge”.
Attribution to famous thinkers gives a pithy saying more authority, and likely will short circuit any consideration of if the adage has any actual truth or value.
A rule of thumb that has served me well in the past: if you don’t know who said it, just say it was either Mark Twain or Dorothy Parker. (1) These days too few people are literate enough to feel safe calling you out, and (2) there’s about a 30% chance you’ll be right.
If what matters is what got said rather than who said it, then we is it so popular to try to build phoney prestige around your quote by lying about who said it?
Many quotes are attributed to George Carlin, often he didn’t say them. Some sound like something he could have said, some are simply made up by someone to prove their point.
A good point with a bad citation undercuts your argument. Lawyers know that. Scientists know that. Publishers know that. Anyone who wants someday to be published should take it to heart, and develop good habits early.
If “the important thing is what got said,” don’t spoil or distract from it by attributing it to someone who didn’t say it. I’ve seen too many memes like that. Sometimes the saying is attributed to someone who died before the subject ever came up.
MeanBob Premium Member 15 days ago
If you have a kid under your influence, who is that bright, attribution is a secondary concern.
Bilan 15 days ago
Is Caulfield admitting that he’s wrong?
Cactus-Pete 15 days ago
Caulfield’s still not very bright.
thevideostoreguy 15 days ago
Irresistible force, meet immovable object.
evsxrk 15 days ago
They are both right. If the quote is a meaningful one, it’s worth repeating, no matter who said it. But Caulfield shouldn’t attribute it to Mark Twain if there’s no evidence that he ever said it. At a minimum he could say something like “Questionably attributed to Mark Twain”.
cdward 15 days ago
Caulfield could have always just said, “Anonymous.” Would have been accurate and open for further speculation.
Ignatz Premium Member 15 days ago
“I didn’t actually say most of that s**t, you know.” – Albert Einstein
cervelo 15 days ago
…more right? Sheldon: “Right and wrong are concepts not subject to gradation”. Stuart: “It’s a little wrong to say a tomato is a vegetable, it’s very wrong to say it’s a suspension bridge”.
goboboyd 15 days ago
‘I don’t know nothin.’
BJDucer 15 days ago
I’d like to know the quote they are discussing….
rshive 15 days ago
Poor Mrs. Olsen! Any day with Caulfield is a hard day.
sandpiper 15 days ago
Getting the ‘gist of things’ to make decisions ok works sometimes. At other times, decisions acted upon from ‘gists’ prove the need for more study.
zwilnik64 15 days ago
Attribution to famous thinkers gives a pithy saying more authority, and likely will short circuit any consideration of if the adage has any actual truth or value.
JRobinson Premium Member 15 days ago
A rule of thumb that has served me well in the past: if you don’t know who said it, just say it was either Mark Twain or Dorothy Parker. (1) These days too few people are literate enough to feel safe calling you out, and (2) there’s about a 30% chance you’ll be right.
rugeirn 15 days ago
If what matters is what got said rather than who said it, then we is it so popular to try to build phoney prestige around your quote by lying about who said it?
SofaKing Premium Member 15 days ago
Many quotes are attributed to George Carlin, often he didn’t say them. Some sound like something he could have said, some are simply made up by someone to prove their point.
SofaKing Premium Member 15 days ago
“I really didn’t say everything I said.” Yogi Berra
TwilightFaze 15 days ago
Fact checkers matter first. Gist getters come after.
Otis Rufus Driftwood 15 days ago
I criticized Caulfield for being too smart for his own good in yesterday’s strip. I take back all such comments, as we can learn something here.
mfrasca 15 days ago
“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes”
—Mark “I never said that” Twain
fritzoid Premium Member 15 days ago
A good point with a bad citation undercuts your argument. Lawyers know that. Scientists know that. Publishers know that. Anyone who wants someday to be published should take it to heart, and develop good habits early.
ronlouisscholl 14 days ago
the gist of lying
anomaly 14 days ago
Conveying things you know aren’t true is the more effective distraction, as we can readily observe.
Ontman 14 days ago
That kids ‘smart’ attitude will bite him in the butt someday.
Tootsie Premium Member 14 days ago
Meta is ending its fact-checking program in favor of a ‘community notes’ system similar to X’s. from NBC News
braindead Premium Member 14 days ago
I wish voters had gotten the gist of what Treason means.
Stephen Gilberg 14 days ago
“Pedantry distracts.” And you think you’re not a pedant?
DaBump Premium Member 14 days ago
If “the important thing is what got said,” don’t spoil or distract from it by attributing it to someone who didn’t say it. I’ve seen too many memes like that. Sometimes the saying is attributed to someone who died before the subject ever came up.
Faby 14 days ago
Bezos and Zuckerberg
stanmans Premium Member 14 days ago
Caufield’s a cool kid.