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Not exactly Mysta, not exactly notOne thing is for certain, the lady is red hot.Infused with Mystaâs memories, horns grafted to her headReprogramed personality, new life for one once dead.A breakthrough in genetics, transformation still ongoingGhoteâs word the only tale there is for what we think weâre knowing.A Chimera is a rarity, âtis neither this nor thatEven her manipulators not sure what they begat.Aunt Mysta to young Honeymoon, so much like her motherSuperimposed Lunar DNA, hard to tell one from the other.One of a kind, she walks the earth, adding chapters to her storySheâs su generis, exceptional, radiating unique glory.
A chimera or chimaera is a single organism (usually an animal) that is composed of two or more different populations of genetically distinct cells that originated from different zygotes involved in sexual reproduction. If the different cells have emerged from the same zygote, the organism is called a mosaic. Chimeras are formed from at least four parent cells (two fertilized eggs or early embryos fused together). Each population of cells keeps its own character and the resulting organism is a mixture of tissues. Chimeras are typically seen in animals; there are some reports of human chimerism.1
Yeah, this explanation is going to take a few days, though we already know a lot. The only thing I never thought about was the ray-blasters in her gloves, but it also says they were surgically implanted, which has me a little confused. I guess the true identity of the subject is next.
Also, how did these guys obtain MMâs DNA from the accident scene? They were working at the morgue perhaps? one way or the other, I wouldnât think there had been much left of her, to begin with.
Actually, nearly everyone is a chimera to a tiny degree. During a normal birth, maternal stem cells migrate to the baby, and pitch in where needed. They have been observed forming missing heart valves, for instance. An adult typically has about 50000 maternal cells still living (compared to trillions of cells total).
Siamese twins sometimes result in one twin being absorbed into the other during gestation. This has led to severe injustices as law enforcement assumes only one set of DNA per person.
For instance, a mother applied for welfare, the routine DNA test determined the kid was not hers â despite the sworn eyewitness testimony of both the father and the obstetrician â and they took her child away. It took 4 years of pro bono help from lawyers and geneticists to get back. Half her body, including her ovaries, came from her twin sister. So, in a real sense, her children were her sisters.
An athlete was disqualified for blood doping, and his trophy rescinded. Eventually, it was shown that his blood DNA did not match other parts of his body. It was from his twin brother. (Too late for the trophy, however.)
Team Tracy, youâve blown us all away with this story arc.Iâm sure that Chester Gould is more than pleased and proud of the work youâve done thus far.We look forward to bigger and better adventures in the future. And we know you wonât disappoint us!Thank you once again!
So bottom line; Moon Maid remains deadâŠ.a colossal disappoint to Honeymoon, Junior, and most of our readersâŠwhat was the point of this anyways, then? Iâll look for Abnerâs smiling face as a sign to began reading again.
Ghote and Sail sound like evil men well dispatched to their fateâŠ.but now I wonder again if maybe Diet Smith either knew or suspected Sail and/or Ghote were on the Space Coupe when he locked in the course for a trip to oblivion.
I keep re-reading this and doing research into Chimeraâs and I donât want to sound too critical (for Iâve very much enjoyed this strip) but this is just not adding up to me. So, they basically took some fully grown female, infused Lunarian DNA (got that part) but yet somehow this fully grown human had Lunarian EYES with white pupils?The hornsâŠso what exactly were the horns? Plastic? With round-tipped solar cells? And they ran wires from the horns to gloves to power ray blasters??? From solar power?Anyone else having a hard time digesting all of this?
I guess this carefully qualified explanation by Diet Smith will not satisfy some at all; others will be partially satisfied; a few may even be completely satisfied.Diet tells that he is relying on the only account that he (or anyone, as far as he knows) has, namely, what Ghote told him. That means there is always the possibility that some or all of it may be shown to be untrue at some time in the future.Alleged fact 1: the original Moon Maid remains well and truly dead.The (so far, fictional) Science we are asked to believe is that âMoon Maidâ is a new and advanced (and apparently unique) kind of chimera, with real Lunarian DNA but fake Lunarian powers and a reprogrammed brain with a version of Moon Maidâs personality.It is not yet clear whether or not Diet Smith knows (i.e., was told by Ghote) who the experimental subject was, upon whom all these changes were made. We will probably get a little more exposition, but other than the test subjectâs true identity, if he in fact knows it, Diet Smith has pretty much told us all he is likely to reveal. Iâm still not sure whether he did or did not know Sail and Ghote were aboard the Space Coupe when he sent it off (I do believe he purposely launched it into space).
One of my early guesses wasnât that far off after all. On sept. 22 I mentioned my brainwashed\surgeried person theory wasnât looking as goodâŠbut I guess it is after all.
âI completely disagree. Hack work this is not. Not even close. I see them closing a wound made many years ago by hack work writers who cut off something they did not like and did it brutally.â
Youâre right, NG49. The wound is now closed. Requiescat in pace, Mysta!
GOT IT! Based on the way Mysta swung that sledgehammer and took out that tombstone, her secret identity is TOAD SPENCER! Kid grew up to be quite a looker, âeh? A real âhome runâ to be sure!
I guess I will have to wait for Monday to know who she originally was before the transformation. This was a surprise! You know what my first question will be when i get to Comic Con today! LOL
I feel the same way. Like Iâm mourning Mysta all over again. This reveal is leaving me feeling pretty empty inside, to tell you the truth. Iâm going to have to process this for a few days.
I remember the scene of Honeymoon on the Space Coupe. She was sure her mother was still alive and was determined to prove it. How did we get from there to here? It feels like the wool has been pulled out.
Like Terry McGuiness is a son of Mr. McGuiness. His DNA was altered to Bruce Wayne. So legaly he is Mr. McGuinessâ son but biologically he is the son of Bruce Wayne.
Interesting. So hmm, why are her horns scarred if they arenât real and were surgically implanted? Sounds like we have a lot more to learn, or was Dr. Ghote even telling the truth?
sisyphos: Agreed. It is very possible that Ghote was lost before he told that last bit of information. But for now, Iâd be very surprised if Willy007 and Franken-Mindy were wrong..While Tracy and crew may not know who she is, I think we do..PatrickDC202: Others have shared that comment from Mike â no clone â âitâs worse than that.â Indeed, it is..Now, a couple thoughts of my own:.Dietrich seems to be âclearingâ his name with us readers by finally telling Tracy and company that he has had contact with the Ghote. But it also seems as if Smith is also telling us that Ghote was trying to clear his name, as well â inasmuch as the agreement to hire the Ghote was to âburyâ his secrets..While I am not yet ready to consider Diet Smith as having gone over to the âdark side,â Iâm still having a problem with some of his dealings still appearing to be âshady.â.Back to, âitâs worse than thatâ: After all the hoopla for well over a year now, this is certainly not the ending many (if not most) of us were looking for..Methinks that, if ever a character deserved a âcomic book death,â perhaps it was Mysta â especially after all of this buildup..Most of all, we are now stuck with an imposter who doesnât even know who she really is!.Which is probably a good enough reason to never reveal who she really isâŠ
Congrats, Willy! Iâll take my winning ticket up to the cashier and send you half!
And of course, Diet isnât going to admit sending the good doctors to an âoutta this worldâ medical conventionâŠ. that would be Murder One! He had best brush up on the Fifth Amendment, just in case!
What an incredibly joyful and entertaining tale this has been. it doesnât seem to be ending the way I thought it would, but still, Iâve loved every minute of it. Thank you, Team Tracy!
Yeah, Iâm re-reading this after a triple-espresso and a good nightâs sleep and Iâm just feeling overall VERY disappointed. I dunno, if youâre a writer and youâre gonna go down the science fiction rabbit-hole, I say do it properly, go all the way.
My takeaway is that this âMystaâ is really just an impostor and not at all a re-creation and I donât understand Diet even referring to her as a recreation or as Mysta. Sheâs not Mysta. In fact, sheâs NOT a recreation at all. They took a grown female, injected Lunarian DNA, implanted horns (plastic? whereâd they get the horns?) added Fembot internal wiring to operate zapping glovesâŠand surgically altered some womanâs face. And brainwashing? Seriously? Brainwashing? But WHY? Why go through all that trouble?
Having read up on the Chimera angle, it still doesnât ring true regarding a motivation to steal the space coupe. I mean, they go through all this trouble to simply steal a space coupe to launch rogue satellites? One doesnât need a space coupe to do that one can simply pay a visit to N. Koreaâs Kim Il Jung whats-his-crazy and they can do it. Satellites are launched all the time.
I think it wouldâve served the storyline better if they had simply cloned Mysta somehow. They lost me with the brainwashing explanation. Sorry to be so critical but I am a writer and have viewed this story through that prism, really critically dissecting every plot angle.
This is where I saw sadness in this scenario. Sailghote basically âkilledâ whoever they used for this experiment. It appears she had an identity before, which they âremovedâ. At least, that person experienced nothing since then, having been overwritten by the Mysta identity. Horrible already. But Mysta is also finding out that she isnât real, but a product of implanted memories. How awful would that be? Telling her her previous name wouldnât necessarily bring her old memories back. Even if they did, sheâd then know Sailghote stole however many years from her during their experiment. Sad for her all around. Maybe the space coupe containing Sailghote should take a turn into the sun.
Everyone is worried about what the horns are made of. I have been reading lately about how digital printers infused with DNA can actually print body parts. In a recent experiment, scientists were able to print an ear. This technology is in its infancy but all Team Tracy are asking us to believe is that Ghote made breakthroughs in this type of science and research (a breakthrough that is in reality not far off).
Now that we know what Mysta is the question becomes, âWhat do we do with her?â There are many questions. She is obviously here and not dead. Does she have any rights? Should she be imprisoned? Is she a danger?
I think at this point Mysta needs a medical examination by unbiased scientists to prove or disprove the truth of Ghoteâs assertions to Diet.
Moon Maid is back but definitely not the Moon Maid many wanted. There are still unanswered questions about the Moon People, what happened to Ghote, Sail and Flash, what happens now? As typical in Mikeâs writing, I believe these answers may not come immediately but in future stories.
Which DNA will become dominate in Mysta? Will she become the sweet Moon Maid from the past or turn into a villain as Cheapskate0 predicted some time ago? This version of Mysta is now a member of the Tracyverse. Time will tell.
Quite an interesting turn of events, gentlemen. This story, and technique that brought about Mysta was a true Frankenstein monster Not only for poor Mysta, but the entire strip. Extremely well done!
This would also explain one aspect. If I remember correctly, Mysta not only had bio-electrical abilities, but she could generate cold and/or heat, and had a magnetic attraction ability (her animal magnetism, which many males showed, she still had it, from all these years notwithstanding (giggle) ) She was also quite intolerant of heat.
So this explains why she never showed those other abilities; or the intolerance. The two antagonists never added it to her.
It seems many of us, had our own theories. I, for one, felt she was indeed a synthetic being for I thought she was a humioform robot.
I also feel a bit of shame. I should have started to suspect some sort of genetic chimera myself. I write about uplifted animals in my science fiction framework, which are a form of chimera.
Perhaps I was unconsciously hoping for more. I still have a great deal of empathy for Mysta. She reminds me of myself before a life-changing event in collage. I grew up as a teen, unsure of what I was, since I was different. Rudderless, drifting in a sea of doubt. I hope Mysta will find her identity and accept it as I did ultimately.
I have been lurking with great enjoyment of the strip and the comments. Now that we seem to have a partial solution of lunarian DNA added to a human host, I will add my 2 cents. Remember several weeks ago the bad guys were surprised that MM could drive. This suggests that the human host was under the legal driving age or from a geographic location where the host had no access to driving. More importantly, however, this suggests that the lunarian DNA is overcoming the host DNA and thus creating a ârealâ MM.
While I was hoping for a more completely satisfying and audacious close to this chapter in Mystaâs story, the bottom line is that Mysta is back in the world of Dick Tracy. This was a bold move on the part of Team Tracy. Whatever my quibbles with some of the particulars, there is no denying the fact that this is the best Dick Tracy story I have read in over 40 years.For all intents and purposes, the subject used for the doctorsâ procedures no longer exists. With her memories wiped, Ghote and Sail used her body as a host for Mystaâs DNA, personality and partial memory implants. Shades of Frankenstein, indeed. Her scarred horns (Why? Might they be the originals?), while not possessing the powers of the Moon-born Mysta, are quite formidable. We donât know what the long-term effects of Mystaâs âsuperimposedâ DNA will be. It seems likely that the changes wrought by the many procedures performed by Ghote and Sail will be somewhat unpredictable and possibly ongoing.We donât know when or if Mysta will be reunited with her Lunarian family. Would contact with her parents, given their telepathy and powers, make further changes possible? This is a reunion I would very much like to see. We donât know where the Lunarians are living, or if the Space Coupe is headed their way. Ghote, Sail and Flash had better hope that it is, although they may not get a friendly greeting.While Iâm disappointed that Honeymoonâs early role as junior detective determined to find her mother was allowed to wither on the vine, Iâm confident that these two will develop a close and important relationship in the future. I suspect we havenât seen that last of Honeymoonâs sleuthing. Honeymoon is one of the many successful transformations of the strip brought to us by the excellent Team Tracy.The longer Mysta has been back in the strip the more she has behaved like the Mysta of old. I like Jerryâs notion that " the lunarian DNA is overcoming the host DNA and thus creating a ârealâ MM." Weâve been treated to a riveting return of one of Gouldâs best creations. This is but the first chapter in her return. Iâll be looking forward to the next chapter in Mystaâs story, whenever that occurs. In the meantime, Iâm a big fan of the creativity of Team Tracy and look forward to more of their award-winning work.Thanks to Gweedo, Neil Wick and Kay Kirscht for the kind words. Much appreciated.
Just before Diet took the Space Coupe to the Wheaton Farm, he said something about setting things right. Iâd be willing to bet that has something to do with Moon Maidâs real identity and it will likely prove this whole affair is âworse than cloningâ.
Random thoughts:(1) If science fiction could be totally explained using our present knowledge, as some posters seem to do, it wouldnât be fiction.(2) Throughout this story, Tracy has been rightly skeptical, and has done his job tracking down criminals.(3) Are all of the two gangs now dead or in custody?(4) Was the original host-subject for MM murdered or does she still live behind this façade? Does she have family that cares about her?(5) One poster stated that Honeymoon, Junior, and many of us hoped MM was for real. Honeymoon, yes; not so sure about Junior since it would present a dilemma for him; for me, I didnât care(6) Why did Diet want to hire Stelluna and Retik? Perhaps he wants to create a home for MM with them continuing in the care-taker role. They wanted to get to the moon, but Diet seems to be ending that project. The mystery of what happened to the moon people remains, perhaps to be dealt with at some future date.
In case anybody has noticed, I changed my postage stamp once again. Mysta is dead..What may become Mikeâs famous last words: âItâs worse than that.â.So, Mysta, probably Franken-Mindy, is a fake. But, âitâs worse than that,â sheâs not even a good fake. For all the hoopla about Lunarian physiology, Sail and Ghote were not able to produce the salient features of the Moon Maid: If I read correctly, not only were the âpowersâ in her hands, but her âhorns,â as well, are fake!.Not only does she fail the test of an extra-terrestrial, but she no longer resembles an earthling. But âitâs worse than that.â.She was never Juniorâs wife, she was never Honeyâs mother. Continued association with these people, especially with âimplantedâ memories, is not healthy for all concerned. But âitâs worse than that.â.We already saw how this Franken-Moon Maid failed the mommy test, in her meeting (can no longer call it a reunion) with Honey. Quite likely, she failed yet another test, this one âoff stage,â if you will: The wife test..The only interaction we saw between Junior and his now alleged previous wife was when he tried to prevent her from killing Hy Pressure. Where was the emotion?.But, âitâs worse than that.â.One reason I did not dismiss the rants of tsull2121 is that, deep down, I really believed that the emotions he showed would actually mirror those of the characters, especially Sparkle, if Moon Maid turned out to be âreal.â.Other than âcold shouldersâ in a car ride from the radio station, I donât recall any emotions at all, other than Juniorâs words to Tracy, about being able to âcut it with a knife.â.But, âitâs worse than that.â.In some ways, this âendingâ seems even more cruel than the one that Collins served us on 07 Aug 1978. In 1978, Mysta was âthrown under the bus.â.Wump-wump..This time, it feels as if she was thrown down at the garage door of East Metro, just before rush hour, to be hit by each and every bus coming out to service Denverâs morning commute!.Wump-wump. Wump-wump. Wump-wump. Wump-wump..You get the picture. While I may have been a bit graphic, itâs still a gross understatement of what has happened to this character..And we still donât know if we can trust Dietrich to be telling the whole truth. Heck, we still donât know if Ghote had told him the whole truth!.For the life of me, I still canât figure out why the sam hill, if Ghote wanted to make a âclone,â or whatever it is that he made, why was it so important to infuse an otherwise neutral body with the memories and personality of the person he was âcloningâ?.But, âitâs worse than that.â.If Willy007 is correct, Mindy Ermine was a petty criminal, to boot. If not Mindy, then perhaps she was another criminal from Dick Tracy past. Ghote has never been known to hang out with anyone who wasnât a crook..Just like he has never been known to tell the truth..Probably another good reason not to tell Moon Maid who she really is. (The other is that Dietrich may not know who she is in the first place).Moon Maid foes, congratulations! You have what you wish. This is not the original Moon Maid. Heck, she isnât even a Moon Maid! Even her horns and powers are fake!.Thus clearing the way for more Kadavers, Doubleups, BB Eyes, Mumbles, Mordreds, and even a new moon-faced villain..Weâre back to a new era of Dick Tracy grotesques..But, itâs worse than that..As tsull2121 and others have said, Sparkle and Junior made a better couple than Mysta and Junior. Right now, we may be witnessing that â in spades!.The worst part of this scenario, for me, is that perhaps, at no time, was Mysta ever Juniorâs âlove of his life.â There was no joy, even for a moment, when he might have believed he had seen his previous wife and mother of his child..This, I think, was the worst of it all..But, hey, this is Dick Tracy!.What? Was I expecting a happy ending?
Iâm feeling both sad and hopeful.Sad that we now know, finally and forever, that the original Mysta is dead and gone. Several posters have mentioned how theyâre mourning her loss all over again, and Iâm feeling that way, too. Here I am with this big âtheoryâ that may be proven right after all, but as Iâve said all along, my strong preference has always been to get the original Mysta back. And the fact that we didnât leaves me feeling hollow inside. In my opinion the original Moon Maid was the sweetest and most sensational character in the history of of Dick Tracy. R.I.P. Mysta Tracy.Then again, Iâm suddenly hopeful, too. Mystaâs DNA overtaking the human host DNA â I like that idea. She already has Mystaâs memories and mindset, the same beautiful body, the same lights out costume (letâs face it, the original Moon Maid never looked half as good as Joe Staton has made her), and weâve already seen her character evolve from a selfish, scheming and demanding individual into one who wants to do right, a character we sympathize with (especially after all sheâs gone through) and want to root for. Whoâs to say her transformation is complete? What if she continues to evolve, and Mystaâs DNA becomes so dominant that physiologically she BECOMES Mysta, complete with all of her powers and sweet character? For all intents and purposes, we will have Moon Maid back with us, not the way we expected, but Moon Maid nonetheless. The more I think about this, the more I like it!
It appears to me that Team Tracy may or may not revisit this story, someday (since we donât know the true status of Drs. Ghote/Sail â my guess is since there were no provisions on the Space Coupe, they likely perished). What this seems to be was a well thought-out âburial/sendoffâ of the Moon Era â thanks for keeping us kids of the 60âs truly riveted, TT!
Also, smart athletes that want to cheat use their own blood, which they store until the competition. This is not detectable via genetic testing. Accusations are often based on âno normal athlete could possibly do that wellâ.
Pequod over 11 years ago
Not exactly Mysta, not exactly notOne thing is for certain, the lady is red hot.Infused with Mystaâs memories, horns grafted to her headReprogramed personality, new life for one once dead.A breakthrough in genetics, transformation still ongoingGhoteâs word the only tale there is for what we think weâre knowing.A Chimera is a rarity, âtis neither this nor thatEven her manipulators not sure what they begat.Aunt Mysta to young Honeymoon, so much like her motherSuperimposed Lunar DNA, hard to tell one from the other.One of a kind, she walks the earth, adding chapters to her storySheâs su generis, exceptional, radiating unique glory.
SKJAM! Premium Member over 11 years ago
Little Orphan Annie?
cpalmeresq over 11 years ago
AND�??
60sFan over 11 years ago
A chimera?!
TJ000 over 11 years ago
I.did.not.expect.this. Seriously, Iâm blown away.
Rod Gonzalez over 11 years ago
A Chimera?
After all this, we find out this Moon Maid is a synthetic being rather than a clone?
Freaky.
Jonathan K. and the Elusive Dream Girl over 11 years ago
Definition of Chimera:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)
margueritem over 11 years ago
Who is she??
margueritem over 11 years ago
A chimera or chimaera is a single organism (usually an animal) that is composed of two or more different populations of genetically distinct cells that originated from different zygotes involved in sexual reproduction. If the different cells have emerged from the same zygote, the organism is called a mosaic. Chimeras are formed from at least four parent cells (two fertilized eggs or early embryos fused together). Each population of cells keeps its own character and the resulting organism is a mixture of tissues. Chimeras are typically seen in animals; there are some reports of human chimerism.1
favm over 11 years ago
I expect another long explanation before we know her true identity.
PatrickDC202 over 11 years ago
When asked if Moon Maid were a clone, I read recently posted here that Mike (the writerâs) response: âItâs worse than thatâThis is.
mikatt1 over 11 years ago
Canât wait to see who she is!
MJ Premium Member over 11 years ago
True identity? Huh?
Jerry1967 over 11 years ago
No matter what, though, this has been a fantastic story. A wild roller coaster of a ride for more than a year.
Neil Wick over 11 years ago
Yeah, this explanation is going to take a few days, though we already know a lot. The only thing I never thought about was the ray-blasters in her gloves, but it also says they were surgically implanted, which has me a little confused. I guess the true identity of the subject is next.
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
I knew she wasnât the real thing, although I donât understand what she actually IS
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
Also, how did these guys obtain MMâs DNA from the accident scene? They were working at the morgue perhaps? one way or the other, I wouldnât think there had been much left of her, to begin with.
stuart over 11 years ago
Actually, nearly everyone is a chimera to a tiny degree. During a normal birth, maternal stem cells migrate to the baby, and pitch in where needed. They have been observed forming missing heart valves, for instance. An adult typically has about 50000 maternal cells still living (compared to trillions of cells total).
Siamese twins sometimes result in one twin being absorbed into the other during gestation. This has led to severe injustices as law enforcement assumes only one set of DNA per person.
For instance, a mother applied for welfare, the routine DNA test determined the kid was not hers â despite the sworn eyewitness testimony of both the father and the obstetrician â and they took her child away. It took 4 years of pro bono help from lawyers and geneticists to get back. Half her body, including her ovaries, came from her twin sister. So, in a real sense, her children were her sisters.
An athlete was disqualified for blood doping, and his trophy rescinded. Eventually, it was shown that his blood DNA did not match other parts of his body. It was from his twin brother. (Too late for the trophy, however.)
Vista Bill Raley and Cometâą over 11 years ago
Good morning everyoneâŠ
Is this the beginning of the end for MM/Mysta,,, or the end of the beginningâŠ
doctor075 over 11 years ago
Team Tracy, youâve blown us all away with this story arc.Iâm sure that Chester Gould is more than pleased and proud of the work youâve done thus far.We look forward to bigger and better adventures in the future. And we know you wonât disappoint us!Thank you once again!
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
Now, can we please get back to Police work?
gouldstandard over 11 years ago
So bottom line; Moon Maid remains deadâŠ.a colossal disappoint to Honeymoon, Junior, and most of our readersâŠwhat was the point of this anyways, then? Iâll look for Abnerâs smiling face as a sign to began reading again.
jonahhex1 over 11 years ago
Ghote and Sail sound like evil men well dispatched to their fateâŠ.but now I wonder again if maybe Diet Smith either knew or suspected Sail and/or Ghote were on the Space Coupe when he locked in the course for a trip to oblivion.
PatrickDC202 over 11 years ago
I keep re-reading this and doing research into Chimeraâs and I donât want to sound too critical (for Iâve very much enjoyed this strip) but this is just not adding up to me. So, they basically took some fully grown female, infused Lunarian DNA (got that part) but yet somehow this fully grown human had Lunarian EYES with white pupils?The hornsâŠso what exactly were the horns? Plastic? With round-tipped solar cells? And they ran wires from the horns to gloves to power ray blasters??? From solar power?Anyone else having a hard time digesting all of this?
daedalusomega over 11 years ago
Kudos to Willy007, who so far is right on the money!!!! Chapeau!!!
daedalusomega over 11 years ago
Also, my respects to Mike Curtis. He managed to give us Moon Maid, without having to treat her death as a comic book one.
Sisyphos over 11 years ago
I guess this carefully qualified explanation by Diet Smith will not satisfy some at all; others will be partially satisfied; a few may even be completely satisfied.Diet tells that he is relying on the only account that he (or anyone, as far as he knows) has, namely, what Ghote told him. That means there is always the possibility that some or all of it may be shown to be untrue at some time in the future.Alleged fact 1: the original Moon Maid remains well and truly dead.The (so far, fictional) Science we are asked to believe is that âMoon Maidâ is a new and advanced (and apparently unique) kind of chimera, with real Lunarian DNA but fake Lunarian powers and a reprogrammed brain with a version of Moon Maidâs personality.It is not yet clear whether or not Diet Smith knows (i.e., was told by Ghote) who the experimental subject was, upon whom all these changes were made. We will probably get a little more exposition, but other than the test subjectâs true identity, if he in fact knows it, Diet Smith has pretty much told us all he is likely to reveal. Iâm still not sure whether he did or did not know Sail and Ghote were aboard the Space Coupe when he sent it off (I do believe he purposely launched it into space).
RickD Premium Member over 11 years ago
One of my early guesses wasnât that far off after all. On sept. 22 I mentioned my brainwashed\surgeried person theory wasnât looking as goodâŠbut I guess it is after all.
daedalusomega over 11 years ago
Night-Gaunt49âs reply to 9ChickLuannbean
âI completely disagree. Hack work this is not. Not even close. I see them closing a wound made many years ago by hack work writers who cut off something they did not like and did it brutally.â
Youâre right, NG49. The wound is now closed. Requiescat in pace, Mysta!
coldsooner over 11 years ago
GOT IT! Based on the way Mysta swung that sledgehammer and took out that tombstone, her secret identity is TOAD SPENCER! Kid grew up to be quite a looker, âeh? A real âhome runâ to be sure!
admwrlk Premium Member over 11 years ago
meh
galaxyg over 11 years ago
I guess I will have to wait for Monday to know who she originally was before the transformation. This was a surprise! You know what my first question will be when i get to Comic Con today! LOL
davidf42 over 11 years ago
No, I doubt that itâs Little Orphan Annie. The Syndicate has indicated that it still has a lot of market potential with that character.
Chief Patton over 11 years ago
I feel the same way. Like Iâm mourning Mysta all over again. This reveal is leaving me feeling pretty empty inside, to tell you the truth. Iâm going to have to process this for a few days.
Yahsfirescribe over 11 years ago
I never saw that comingâŠbut where is the missing space coupe heading with the three criminals?
Yahsfirescribe over 11 years ago
And what isnât Diet Smith telling Tracy and company?
TJ000 over 11 years ago
I remember the scene of Honeymoon on the Space Coupe. She was sure her mother was still alive and was determined to prove it. How did we get from there to here? It feels like the wool has been pulled out.
ReneTray over 11 years ago
Like Terry McGuiness is a son of Mr. McGuiness. His DNA was altered to Bruce Wayne. So legaly he is Mr. McGuinessâ son but biologically he is the son of Bruce Wayne.
fhoffman01 over 11 years ago
Interesting. So hmm, why are her horns scarred if they arenât real and were surgically implanted? Sounds like we have a lot more to learn, or was Dr. Ghote even telling the truth?
Cheapskate0 over 11 years ago
sisyphos: Agreed. It is very possible that Ghote was lost before he told that last bit of information. But for now, Iâd be very surprised if Willy007 and Franken-Mindy were wrong..While Tracy and crew may not know who she is, I think we do..PatrickDC202: Others have shared that comment from Mike â no clone â âitâs worse than that.â Indeed, it is..Now, a couple thoughts of my own:.Dietrich seems to be âclearingâ his name with us readers by finally telling Tracy and company that he has had contact with the Ghote. But it also seems as if Smith is also telling us that Ghote was trying to clear his name, as well â inasmuch as the agreement to hire the Ghote was to âburyâ his secrets..While I am not yet ready to consider Diet Smith as having gone over to the âdark side,â Iâm still having a problem with some of his dealings still appearing to be âshady.â.Back to, âitâs worse than thatâ: After all the hoopla for well over a year now, this is certainly not the ending many (if not most) of us were looking for..Methinks that, if ever a character deserved a âcomic book death,â perhaps it was Mysta â especially after all of this buildup..Most of all, we are now stuck with an imposter who doesnât even know who she really is!.Which is probably a good enough reason to never reveal who she really isâŠ
Morrow Cummings over 11 years ago
Congrats, Willy! Iâll take my winning ticket up to the cashier and send you half!
And of course, Diet isnât going to admit sending the good doctors to an âoutta this worldâ medical conventionâŠ. that would be Murder One! He had best brush up on the Fifth Amendment, just in case!
sjsczurek over 11 years ago
Who is she? And who WAS she?
DayDay2001 over 11 years ago
What an incredibly joyful and entertaining tale this has been. it doesnât seem to be ending the way I thought it would, but still, Iâve loved every minute of it. Thank you, Team Tracy!
daedalusomega over 11 years ago
Who is she? Well⊠she is Mindy, ainât she?
abdullahbaba999 over 11 years ago
Let the story unfold Mike & JoeâŠ..InshAllahâŠI Love You Moon MaidâŠ
PatrickDC202 over 11 years ago
Yeah, Iâm re-reading this after a triple-espresso and a good nightâs sleep and Iâm just feeling overall VERY disappointed. I dunno, if youâre a writer and youâre gonna go down the science fiction rabbit-hole, I say do it properly, go all the way.
My takeaway is that this âMystaâ is really just an impostor and not at all a re-creation and I donât understand Diet even referring to her as a recreation or as Mysta. Sheâs not Mysta. In fact, sheâs NOT a recreation at all. They took a grown female, injected Lunarian DNA, implanted horns (plastic? whereâd they get the horns?) added Fembot internal wiring to operate zapping glovesâŠand surgically altered some womanâs face. And brainwashing? Seriously? Brainwashing? But WHY? Why go through all that trouble?
Having read up on the Chimera angle, it still doesnât ring true regarding a motivation to steal the space coupe. I mean, they go through all this trouble to simply steal a space coupe to launch rogue satellites? One doesnât need a space coupe to do that one can simply pay a visit to N. Koreaâs Kim Il Jung whats-his-crazy and they can do it. Satellites are launched all the time.
I think it wouldâve served the storyline better if they had simply cloned Mysta somehow. They lost me with the brainwashing explanation. Sorry to be so critical but I am a writer and have viewed this story through that prism, really critically dissecting every plot angle.
Kay Kirscht Premium Member over 11 years ago
@Pequod77 â lovely comment!
RickD Premium Member over 11 years ago
This is where I saw sadness in this scenario. Sailghote basically âkilledâ whoever they used for this experiment. It appears she had an identity before, which they âremovedâ. At least, that person experienced nothing since then, having been overwritten by the Mysta identity. Horrible already. But Mysta is also finding out that she isnât real, but a product of implanted memories. How awful would that be? Telling her her previous name wouldnât necessarily bring her old memories back. Even if they did, sheâd then know Sailghote stole however many years from her during their experiment. Sad for her all around. Maybe the space coupe containing Sailghote should take a turn into the sun.
Ray Toler over 11 years ago
Everyone is worried about what the horns are made of. I have been reading lately about how digital printers infused with DNA can actually print body parts. In a recent experiment, scientists were able to print an ear. This technology is in its infancy but all Team Tracy are asking us to believe is that Ghote made breakthroughs in this type of science and research (a breakthrough that is in reality not far off).
Now that we know what Mysta is the question becomes, âWhat do we do with her?â There are many questions. She is obviously here and not dead. Does she have any rights? Should she be imprisoned? Is she a danger?
I think at this point Mysta needs a medical examination by unbiased scientists to prove or disprove the truth of Ghoteâs assertions to Diet.
Moon Maid is back but definitely not the Moon Maid many wanted. There are still unanswered questions about the Moon People, what happened to Ghote, Sail and Flash, what happens now? As typical in Mikeâs writing, I believe these answers may not come immediately but in future stories.
Which DNA will become dominate in Mysta? Will she become the sweet Moon Maid from the past or turn into a villain as Cheapskate0 predicted some time ago? This version of Mysta is now a member of the Tracyverse. Time will tell.
kantuck-nadie over 11 years ago
Quite an interesting turn of events, gentlemen. This story, and technique that brought about Mysta was a true Frankenstein monster Not only for poor Mysta, but the entire strip. Extremely well done!
This would also explain one aspect. If I remember correctly, Mysta not only had bio-electrical abilities, but she could generate cold and/or heat, and had a magnetic attraction ability (her animal magnetism, which many males showed, she still had it, from all these years notwithstanding (giggle) ) She was also quite intolerant of heat.
So this explains why she never showed those other abilities; or the intolerance. The two antagonists never added it to her.
It seems many of us, had our own theories. I, for one, felt she was indeed a synthetic being for I thought she was a humioform robot.
I also feel a bit of shame. I should have started to suspect some sort of genetic chimera myself. I write about uplifted animals in my science fiction framework, which are a form of chimera.
Perhaps I was unconsciously hoping for more. I still have a great deal of empathy for Mysta. She reminds me of myself before a life-changing event in collage. I grew up as a teen, unsure of what I was, since I was different. Rudderless, drifting in a sea of doubt. I hope Mysta will find her identity and accept it as I did ultimately.
finefox Premium Member over 11 years ago
I have been lurking with great enjoyment of the strip and the comments. Now that we seem to have a partial solution of lunarian DNA added to a human host, I will add my 2 cents. Remember several weeks ago the bad guys were surprised that MM could drive. This suggests that the human host was under the legal driving age or from a geographic location where the host had no access to driving. More importantly, however, this suggests that the lunarian DNA is overcoming the host DNA and thus creating a ârealâ MM.
Pequod over 11 years ago
While I was hoping for a more completely satisfying and audacious close to this chapter in Mystaâs story, the bottom line is that Mysta is back in the world of Dick Tracy. This was a bold move on the part of Team Tracy. Whatever my quibbles with some of the particulars, there is no denying the fact that this is the best Dick Tracy story I have read in over 40 years.For all intents and purposes, the subject used for the doctorsâ procedures no longer exists. With her memories wiped, Ghote and Sail used her body as a host for Mystaâs DNA, personality and partial memory implants. Shades of Frankenstein, indeed. Her scarred horns (Why? Might they be the originals?), while not possessing the powers of the Moon-born Mysta, are quite formidable. We donât know what the long-term effects of Mystaâs âsuperimposedâ DNA will be. It seems likely that the changes wrought by the many procedures performed by Ghote and Sail will be somewhat unpredictable and possibly ongoing.We donât know when or if Mysta will be reunited with her Lunarian family. Would contact with her parents, given their telepathy and powers, make further changes possible? This is a reunion I would very much like to see. We donât know where the Lunarians are living, or if the Space Coupe is headed their way. Ghote, Sail and Flash had better hope that it is, although they may not get a friendly greeting.While Iâm disappointed that Honeymoonâs early role as junior detective determined to find her mother was allowed to wither on the vine, Iâm confident that these two will develop a close and important relationship in the future. I suspect we havenât seen that last of Honeymoonâs sleuthing. Honeymoon is one of the many successful transformations of the strip brought to us by the excellent Team Tracy.The longer Mysta has been back in the strip the more she has behaved like the Mysta of old. I like Jerryâs notion that " the lunarian DNA is overcoming the host DNA and thus creating a ârealâ MM." Weâve been treated to a riveting return of one of Gouldâs best creations. This is but the first chapter in her return. Iâll be looking forward to the next chapter in Mystaâs story, whenever that occurs. In the meantime, Iâm a big fan of the creativity of Team Tracy and look forward to more of their award-winning work.Thanks to Gweedo, Neil Wick and Kay Kirscht for the kind words. Much appreciated.
jonahhex1 over 11 years ago
Just before Diet took the Space Coupe to the Wheaton Farm, he said something about setting things right. Iâd be willing to bet that has something to do with Moon Maidâs real identity and it will likely prove this whole affair is âworse than cloningâ.
marvee over 11 years ago
Random thoughts:(1) If science fiction could be totally explained using our present knowledge, as some posters seem to do, it wouldnât be fiction.(2) Throughout this story, Tracy has been rightly skeptical, and has done his job tracking down criminals.(3) Are all of the two gangs now dead or in custody?(4) Was the original host-subject for MM murdered or does she still live behind this façade? Does she have family that cares about her?(5) One poster stated that Honeymoon, Junior, and many of us hoped MM was for real. Honeymoon, yes; not so sure about Junior since it would present a dilemma for him; for me, I didnât care(6) Why did Diet want to hire Stelluna and Retik? Perhaps he wants to create a home for MM with them continuing in the care-taker role. They wanted to get to the moon, but Diet seems to be ending that project. The mystery of what happened to the moon people remains, perhaps to be dealt with at some future date.
mikehumbert999 over 11 years ago
TraderJoe said earlier: " It feels like the wool has been pulled out." I have no idea what that means⊠but it sounds painful!
Cheapskate0 over 11 years ago
In case anybody has noticed, I changed my postage stamp once again. Mysta is dead..What may become Mikeâs famous last words: âItâs worse than that.â.So, Mysta, probably Franken-Mindy, is a fake. But, âitâs worse than that,â sheâs not even a good fake. For all the hoopla about Lunarian physiology, Sail and Ghote were not able to produce the salient features of the Moon Maid: If I read correctly, not only were the âpowersâ in her hands, but her âhorns,â as well, are fake!.Not only does she fail the test of an extra-terrestrial, but she no longer resembles an earthling. But âitâs worse than that.â.She was never Juniorâs wife, she was never Honeyâs mother. Continued association with these people, especially with âimplantedâ memories, is not healthy for all concerned. But âitâs worse than that.â.We already saw how this Franken-Moon Maid failed the mommy test, in her meeting (can no longer call it a reunion) with Honey. Quite likely, she failed yet another test, this one âoff stage,â if you will: The wife test..The only interaction we saw between Junior and his now alleged previous wife was when he tried to prevent her from killing Hy Pressure. Where was the emotion?.But, âitâs worse than that.â.One reason I did not dismiss the rants of tsull2121 is that, deep down, I really believed that the emotions he showed would actually mirror those of the characters, especially Sparkle, if Moon Maid turned out to be âreal.â.Other than âcold shouldersâ in a car ride from the radio station, I donât recall any emotions at all, other than Juniorâs words to Tracy, about being able to âcut it with a knife.â.But, âitâs worse than that.â.In some ways, this âendingâ seems even more cruel than the one that Collins served us on 07 Aug 1978. In 1978, Mysta was âthrown under the bus.â.Wump-wump..This time, it feels as if she was thrown down at the garage door of East Metro, just before rush hour, to be hit by each and every bus coming out to service Denverâs morning commute!.Wump-wump. Wump-wump. Wump-wump. Wump-wump..You get the picture. While I may have been a bit graphic, itâs still a gross understatement of what has happened to this character..And we still donât know if we can trust Dietrich to be telling the whole truth. Heck, we still donât know if Ghote had told him the whole truth!.For the life of me, I still canât figure out why the sam hill, if Ghote wanted to make a âclone,â or whatever it is that he made, why was it so important to infuse an otherwise neutral body with the memories and personality of the person he was âcloningâ?.But, âitâs worse than that.â.If Willy007 is correct, Mindy Ermine was a petty criminal, to boot. If not Mindy, then perhaps she was another criminal from Dick Tracy past. Ghote has never been known to hang out with anyone who wasnât a crook..Just like he has never been known to tell the truth..Probably another good reason not to tell Moon Maid who she really is. (The other is that Dietrich may not know who she is in the first place).Moon Maid foes, congratulations! You have what you wish. This is not the original Moon Maid. Heck, she isnât even a Moon Maid! Even her horns and powers are fake!.Thus clearing the way for more Kadavers, Doubleups, BB Eyes, Mumbles, Mordreds, and even a new moon-faced villain..Weâre back to a new era of Dick Tracy grotesques..But, itâs worse than that..As tsull2121 and others have said, Sparkle and Junior made a better couple than Mysta and Junior. Right now, we may be witnessing that â in spades!.The worst part of this scenario, for me, is that perhaps, at no time, was Mysta ever Juniorâs âlove of his life.â There was no joy, even for a moment, when he might have believed he had seen his previous wife and mother of his child..This, I think, was the worst of it all..But, hey, this is Dick Tracy!.What? Was I expecting a happy ending?
willy007 over 11 years ago
Iâm feeling both sad and hopeful.Sad that we now know, finally and forever, that the original Mysta is dead and gone. Several posters have mentioned how theyâre mourning her loss all over again, and Iâm feeling that way, too. Here I am with this big âtheoryâ that may be proven right after all, but as Iâve said all along, my strong preference has always been to get the original Mysta back. And the fact that we didnât leaves me feeling hollow inside. In my opinion the original Moon Maid was the sweetest and most sensational character in the history of of Dick Tracy. R.I.P. Mysta Tracy.Then again, Iâm suddenly hopeful, too. Mystaâs DNA overtaking the human host DNA â I like that idea. She already has Mystaâs memories and mindset, the same beautiful body, the same lights out costume (letâs face it, the original Moon Maid never looked half as good as Joe Staton has made her), and weâve already seen her character evolve from a selfish, scheming and demanding individual into one who wants to do right, a character we sympathize with (especially after all sheâs gone through) and want to root for. Whoâs to say her transformation is complete? What if she continues to evolve, and Mystaâs DNA becomes so dominant that physiologically she BECOMES Mysta, complete with all of her powers and sweet character? For all intents and purposes, we will have Moon Maid back with us, not the way we expected, but Moon Maid nonetheless. The more I think about this, the more I like it!
Cheapskate0 over 11 years ago
Trader Joe said the âwoolâ was pulled out â I think he meant the rug was pulled out!
countoftowergrove over 11 years ago
I guess there will be no more giant escargot!
JB2K over 11 years ago
It appears to me that Team Tracy may or may not revisit this story, someday (since we donât know the true status of Drs. Ghote/Sail â my guess is since there were no provisions on the Space Coupe, they likely perished). What this seems to be was a well thought-out âburial/sendoffâ of the Moon Era â thanks for keeping us kids of the 60âs truly riveted, TT!
stuart over 11 years ago
And take it away from the runner up? These situations are always lose-lose.
stuart over 11 years ago
Also, smart athletes that want to cheat use their own blood, which they store until the competition. This is not detectable via genetic testing. Accusations are often based on âno normal athlete could possibly do that wellâ.
Pequod about 8 years ago
Not exactly Mysta, not exactly not
One thing is for certain, the lady is red hot.
Infused with Mystaâs memories, horns grafted to her head
Reprogramed personality, new life for one once dead.
A breakthrough in genetics, transformation still ongoing
Ghoteâs word the only tale there is for what we think weâre knowing.
A Chimera is a rarity, âtis neither this nor that
Even her manipulators not sure what they begat.
Aunt Mysta to young Honeymoon, so much like her mother
Superimposed Lunar DNA, hard to tell one from the other.
One of a kind, she walks the earth, adding chapters to her story
Sheâs sui generis, exceptional, radiating unique glory.