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If this abuse of university-bestowed R.A. power so that she can in fact steal confidential information from a dorm residentâs cell phone isnât âstalkingâ, then what the heck is??? Bern is risking being expelled from Moony Uni for this flagrantly illegal scheme.
A while back, Bernice was taken to task by Gunther because she had been very dishonest and manipulative with him in her pursuit of Piro. She acknowledged her poor judgment and wrote Gunther a long letter of apology.
But it seems she has a short memory of that lesson. Now sheâs pulling at least as bad a stunt with Tiffany, and once again itâs over Piro.
I understand the portrayal of Bernice as being somewhat obsessed over Piro even though heâs shown little real interest in her⊠sheâs not the first young woman to go down that path. Iâm not liking this stalking and subterfuge angle, though. This is the second or third time sheâs abused her RA role in pursuit of Piro. Thatâs really far out of character for the normally cautious, somewhat persnickety Bernice.
This is the part of the statute in Illinois, my home state, for stalking:720 ILCS 5/12-7.3. Stalking. (2011)(a) A person commits stalking when he or she knowingly engages in a course of conduct directed at a specific person, and he or she knows or should know that this course of conduct would cause a reasonable person to:
(1) fear for his or her safety or the safety of a third person; or
(2) suffer other emotional distress.
I copied this to try to contribute toward combating the inaccurate depiction of the story arc with Bernice as âstalking.â Stalking means putting someone, intentionally, in fear of their safety, and by definition the stalked person would need to be aware that they are being stalked. This is clearly not what is happening here. We have an emotionally repressed romantic young woman, who is dying to know about this mysterious man, and by the way, if she was not so romantically fascinated with him, she still has a duty as a RA to investigate why he, is apparently trespassing in the dormitory, who is at the same time hilariously trying to find out how to contact him. He has no idea she is so fascinated, and he clearly is not in any fear. I know some people may have a hard time understanding this, but ironically she has a duty to try to find out who he is, but she is under the influence of his romantic influence, which if we know the character, means she is attracted to him like a moth to flame. And there is the angle of TIffany being the one with the knowledge, but also the barrier to that knowledge. Now, and again, I donât mean to be confusing, but that is the way my mind works, given what I used to do for a living, she really does not have a personal legal right to his phone number, and if Mooney U. is a state school, she probably does not have a constitutional right as well, but just as accusing Bernice of stalking , that is carrying the story way out-of-bounds. Bernice is not a stalker.
Bernice may be a Capricorn. (Iâm speaking from experience, because I am one â hence WâŠ..goat.)
We Caps typically display intellectual smarts at a very early age. Good in science, and perhaps good in spotting silliness in someone else like Luann. But Caps often are late bloomers when it comes to certain social skills, and particularly romance. Bernice is afraid to just confront it square on, and communicate with someone like Piro. Or in her case, be a little more glamorous and see who she attracts. Being so manipulative, she sets herself up for failure and prolongs her pain.
So the strip is going to paint Bernice â a character that has always been a smart, level headed, strong, independent female â as being so smitten she would stoop to such an elaborate plan to steal a phone number from Tiffany? Iâm a little disappointed in this. It goes against pretty much everything Bernie is about.
I sure hope that by the end of this arc Bernice comes clean and she and Tiffany put their heads together and become closer friends over their mutual concern for Piro.
Has it ever occurred to Bernice to ask someone other than Tiffany for Piroâs number? Piro has crashed in a lot of dorm rooms (like Hairâs). She could at least ask one of Piroâs friends to call him for her, and tell him that Bernice wants to talk to him. Then he can call her (if he wants to, which he likely doesnât!).
Bernice is not an evildoer or stalker, sheâs just a cartoon girl with the hots for her mystery man. Bernice is whatever our imagination sees her as. In that same vein, I would grab Tiffanyâs phone and take a peek at her âselfiesââŠâŠknowing her, there must some pretty hot stuff in those photos.
Bernice ALMOST looks self-assured in Panels 1 and 2, then all that blows away in Panel 3. If she was truly self-assured, sheâd find a better way to get to Piro. Honestly talking about it with others, including Tiff? ⊠NAHHH!
I feel sympathetic to Bernice, although it is taking some work! If Piroâs number were to magically appear on her contact list, what then? The underlying psychologically insecurities that prevent her from directly expressing her needs to people wonât soon fade away. Piro will value a healthier Bernice more. And instead of âpursuingâ, it would be far better to acknowledge and try to understand her attraction to Piro. Share it with Tiffany, and ask for her help, since she has no way to meet up with him (except for seemingly random encounters).
Am I the only one who thinks this story line is a little dumb. Why would someone like Bernice even be interested in a guy like Piro? I know itâs only a comic but with all the characters in this comic this particular arc is at the bottom of the list.
Well, so far thereâs been a lot of âWhat?â. Now comes some âWhy?â. As in, âBernice, why is this even necessary?â. And a little bit of âWhere?â, as in âWhere else can I send Tiffany?â.
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I guess this is a case of two obsessions meeting, where Bernice is now taking advantage of Tiffanyâs obsession with accumulating lots of material possessions (a la âPossession Obsessionâ, by Hall and Oates), to further her own interests, in her obsession with complicationsâŠ
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The easier way would have been to get Tiffany to film herself for YouTube, taking a tour of her house and things. People post stuff like that on there, likeâŠa lot âŠ.
this stupid girl needs to be taken down. Tiffany should sucker punch her. The school should expel her for abuse of position. the police should bust her for withholding information regarding a crime, Piro should tell her sheâs a psycho Fatal Attraction wannabe and get a restraining order. (Sheâll be in court anyway for withholding information.) That way, she could begin a whole new thread of this lame comic by being in Prison. Bernice is the new Orange. See, already even got a working title! Begone odious Frizzy girl. Begone!
I am not fond of Berniceâs technique here. It is annoying in the extreme. I can understand her not feeling it likely that Tiffany would willingly give her (Bernice) the number. But, a far better (perhaps less comedic, I guess) way to approach this would have been for Bernice explain the situation to Dez, and ask Dez to talk to Tiffany. If I recall correctly, Piro IS Dezâs friend, and while she apparently does not have Piroâs number, the fact alone that Piro is her friend would make it fully plausible and easy for Dez to go ask Tiffany something like, âHey Tiff, I think you know my friend Piro, and may have his phone number. Can I get it from you? I donât have it and I wanted to talk to him.â I cannot see any reason for Tiffany to withhold the number from Dez.
Maybe weâve got it backwards. Suppose Piro is really homeless (we donât know this for sure) and suppose he is attracted to Bernice (since she let him stay overnight in her room against the rules). He isnât overtly pursuing her, believing she wouldnât be romantically interested in a homeless guy (low self-esteem) and heâs afraid she might think he was stalking her. If this seems out of character for him, well, everyone seems to think Bernice is acting out of character for her. Alternatively, maybe Piro has a wife and six kids living under a bridge because he lost his job and their home when he couldnât pay the mortgage. This isnât much farther out than Les finding out Pru is gay. Or maybe Piro is Mr. Greyâs long-lost son who had been disowned. The possibilities are endless.
I used to like Bernice. This whole thing with Piro has revised my opinion of her, to the point where I actually like Tiffany more. Interesting development.
Wow, Bernice is getting more and more dis-likable with each new arc. Now sheâs pretending to use her âauthorityâ as a R.A. to pretend to grant herself Gestapo-like powers. Disgraceful and disgusting and deplorable! Remember how she was like at H.S. graduation? She even had Tiff help her with a makeover.
If Tiff had a brain (sheâs not stupid) the logical thing would be to say, âThis doesnât sound right. Why should I inventory all of my possessions for you? Here. let me check with your supervisor.â Then, BUSTED, Bernice!
I have decided this generation calls certain activities âstalkingâ that were just âpursuingâ in my day, as in âAllâs fair in love and war.â
Bernice should not call Piro on his cell. I hope she doesnât. He never gave her his # so it would be intrusive. She should just wait till she sees him again.
Templo S.U.D. almost 8 years ago
sweet plan, Bernice
Namrepus almost 8 years ago
Bernice will be a HOA chairwoman someday.
seismic-2 Premium Member almost 8 years ago
If this abuse of university-bestowed R.A. power so that she can in fact steal confidential information from a dorm residentâs cell phone isnât âstalkingâ, then what the heck is??? Bern is risking being expelled from Moony Uni for this flagrantly illegal scheme.
AnyFace almost 8 years ago
âThey Put Up Cameras.â
dlklabunde almost 8 years ago
Bernice used to be the calm, logical character. Now she is the flighty, desperate one. Kind of makes all her preaching to Luann seem hollow now.
ironman01 almost 8 years ago
Nice plan, in a twisted stalker sort of way.
kenhense almost 8 years ago
Bernice seems to have lost all moral bearings. Sheâs nuts.
Wizardgoat almost 8 years ago
A while back, Bernice was taken to task by Gunther because she had been very dishonest and manipulative with him in her pursuit of Piro. She acknowledged her poor judgment and wrote Gunther a long letter of apology.
But it seems she has a short memory of that lesson. Now sheâs pulling at least as bad a stunt with Tiffany, and once again itâs over Piro.
Argythree almost 8 years ago
So is this some of that âsmartsâ that Dez suggested Bernice use? Must be a new definition of âsmartââŠ
Brdshtt Premium Member almost 8 years ago
âLetâs see your warrantâ
howtheduck almost 8 years ago
And Tiffany returns saying, âI just remembered my father had a list made just for this reason and⊠Hey! What are you doing with my phone?â
Then Bernice says, âI was just looking for Piroâs phone number!â
Then Tiffany says, âHa! The jokeâs on you. I donât have it listed under his name.â
Then Bernice says, âHomeless Hottie? Piroâs not homeless!â
Then Tiffany says, âHave you ever heard of him sleeping at his own place?â
Then Bernice says, âI guess you have a point there.â
SactoSylvia almost 8 years ago
I understand the portrayal of Bernice as being somewhat obsessed over Piro even though heâs shown little real interest in her⊠sheâs not the first young woman to go down that path. Iâm not liking this stalking and subterfuge angle, though. This is the second or third time sheâs abused her RA role in pursuit of Piro. Thatâs really far out of character for the normally cautious, somewhat persnickety Bernice.
luann1212 almost 8 years ago
This is the part of the statute in Illinois, my home state, for stalking:720 ILCS 5/12-7.3. Stalking. (2011)(a) A person commits stalking when he or she knowingly engages in a course of conduct directed at a specific person, and he or she knows or should know that this course of conduct would cause a reasonable person to:
(1) fear for his or her safety or the safety of a third person; or
(2) suffer other emotional distress.
I copied this to try to contribute toward combating the inaccurate depiction of the story arc with Bernice as âstalking.â Stalking means putting someone, intentionally, in fear of their safety, and by definition the stalked person would need to be aware that they are being stalked. This is clearly not what is happening here. We have an emotionally repressed romantic young woman, who is dying to know about this mysterious man, and by the way, if she was not so romantically fascinated with him, she still has a duty as a RA to investigate why he, is apparently trespassing in the dormitory, who is at the same time hilariously trying to find out how to contact him. He has no idea she is so fascinated, and he clearly is not in any fear. I know some people may have a hard time understanding this, but ironically she has a duty to try to find out who he is, but she is under the influence of his romantic influence, which if we know the character, means she is attracted to him like a moth to flame. And there is the angle of TIffany being the one with the knowledge, but also the barrier to that knowledge. Now, and again, I donât mean to be confusing, but that is the way my mind works, given what I used to do for a living, she really does not have a personal legal right to his phone number, and if Mooney U. is a state school, she probably does not have a constitutional right as well, but just as accusing Bernice of stalking , that is carrying the story way out-of-bounds. Bernice is not a stalker.
Wizardgoat almost 8 years ago
Bernice may be a Capricorn. (Iâm speaking from experience, because I am one â hence WâŠ..goat.)
We Caps typically display intellectual smarts at a very early age. Good in science, and perhaps good in spotting silliness in someone else like Luann. But Caps often are late bloomers when it comes to certain social skills, and particularly romance. Bernice is afraid to just confront it square on, and communicate with someone like Piro. Or in her case, be a little more glamorous and see who she attracts. Being so manipulative, she sets herself up for failure and prolongs her pain.
Thantilize almost 8 years ago
Bernice has become an obsessive, possessive, manipulative, lying and otherwise crooked, spy and stalker.
She is stalking PIRO, attempting to gain access through Tiffany (Who isnât as dumb as is thought by the folks here.)
She is lying about her purpose. She needs to be STOPPED, FAST.
Sheâs about to lose her Dorm position AND her college âdream,â for drama.
Aqsnt almost 8 years ago
I hope Tiffanyâs is password protected.
sueb1863 almost 8 years ago
Tiffany sighs heavily âOh, well, OK.â grabs phone and goes into bedroom
Pointspread almost 8 years ago
Bernice find another bum.
TossedSaladCartoon almost 8 years ago
So the strip is going to paint Bernice â a character that has always been a smart, level headed, strong, independent female â as being so smitten she would stoop to such an elaborate plan to steal a phone number from Tiffany? Iâm a little disappointed in this. It goes against pretty much everything Bernie is about.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member almost 8 years ago
So will it turn out that Piro is Gay too? Now that would be funny.
LadyJ4444 almost 8 years ago
I sure hope that by the end of this arc Bernice comes clean and she and Tiffany put their heads together and become closer friends over their mutual concern for Piro.
TORAD_07 almost 8 years ago
I thinking the phone will be locked and sheâll get caught trying to âbrute forceâ the password. Weâll see.
Bwahahaha! almost 8 years ago
This is pathetic.
MarilynnNeherBachorik almost 8 years ago
Bernice has lost her mind over a guy who has never shown any interest in her. Our girl has become dishonest and manipulative and really not likable.
Tyge almost 8 years ago
Berniceâs character has morphed into one that doesnât seem very humorous. Greg E needs to move on.
Uncle Bob almost 8 years ago
Okay. Bernice? This is starting to creep me outâŠ
GirlGeek Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Iâm really starting to hate Bernie
Outsideplaying almost 8 years ago
For the love, Bernice, just ask Tiffany for the phone number!
seismic-2 Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Has it ever occurred to Bernice to ask someone other than Tiffany for Piroâs number? Piro has crashed in a lot of dorm rooms (like Hairâs). She could at least ask one of Piroâs friends to call him for her, and tell him that Bernice wants to talk to him. Then he can call her (if he wants to, which he likely doesnât!).
Germanshepherds4ever almost 8 years ago
âIn the bedroomâ? What kind of DORMITORY âroomâ is more than ONE ROOM!!!!! This is soooooo stupid!
Airman almost 8 years ago
Bernice is not an evildoer or stalker, sheâs just a cartoon girl with the hots for her mystery man. Bernice is whatever our imagination sees her as. In that same vein, I would grab Tiffanyâs phone and take a peek at her âselfiesââŠâŠknowing her, there must some pretty hot stuff in those photos.
Code the Enforcer almost 8 years ago
Bernice ALMOST looks self-assured in Panels 1 and 2, then all that blows away in Panel 3. If she was truly self-assured, sheâd find a better way to get to Piro. Honestly talking about it with others, including Tiff? ⊠NAHHH!
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Then again, what would be the fun in that?! :)
Luanaphile almost 8 years ago
I feel sympathetic to Bernice, although it is taking some work! If Piroâs number were to magically appear on her contact list, what then? The underlying psychologically insecurities that prevent her from directly expressing her needs to people wonât soon fade away. Piro will value a healthier Bernice more. And instead of âpursuingâ, it would be far better to acknowledge and try to understand her attraction to Piro. Share it with Tiffany, and ask for her help, since she has no way to meet up with him (except for seemingly random encounters).
Terminal Frost Premium Member almost 8 years ago
not relevant, but this is where my AVATAR comes form. https://youtu.be/epJ03N31MYk
ike38 almost 8 years ago
Am I the only one who thinks this story line is a little dumb. Why would someone like Bernice even be interested in a guy like Piro? I know itâs only a comic but with all the characters in this comic this particular arc is at the bottom of the list.
ShadowBeast Premium Member almost 8 years ago
This story is gonna end with Bernice losing her R.A. position and I hope she does.
JayBluE almost 8 years ago
âCashing In On A Checkâ
âInvent-oryâ
âA Jive Mentalityâ
âItâs Apparel, To Everyoneâ
âKittyâs Got Clos-etsâ
â99, Left In RoomsâŠâ (âŹ)
âThe Bureau Of Wardrobeâ
âThe Taxing Standard Of Item Eyesâ
âCon, And Then Recon Againâ
âIf I Want You, Then All I Have To Do Is SchemeâŠScheme, Scheme, Sche-emeâ (âȘ)
âDeep See Diver-sionâ
âThe Imploral Of Occupant Is Occupyâ
or
âPhoney, With A Capital Phoneâ
JayBluE almost 8 years ago
Well, so far thereâs been a lot of âWhat?â. Now comes some âWhy?â. As in, âBernice, why is this even necessary?â. And a little bit of âWhere?â, as in âWhere else can I send Tiffany?â.
-
I guess this is a case of two obsessions meeting, where Bernice is now taking advantage of Tiffanyâs obsession with accumulating lots of material possessions (a la âPossession Obsessionâ, by Hall and Oates), to further her own interests, in her obsession with complicationsâŠ
-
The easier way would have been to get Tiffany to film herself for YouTube, taking a tour of her house and things. People post stuff like that on there, likeâŠa lot âŠ.
Sisyphos almost 8 years ago
Bee has gone from bothersome to blatantly bonkers! Beware, Tiffany; the cray-cray already has her eye on your smartphoneâŠ.
Pizdets almost 8 years ago
this stupid girl needs to be taken down. Tiffany should sucker punch her. The school should expel her for abuse of position. the police should bust her for withholding information regarding a crime, Piro should tell her sheâs a psycho Fatal Attraction wannabe and get a restraining order. (Sheâll be in court anyway for withholding information.) That way, she could begin a whole new thread of this lame comic by being in Prison. Bernice is the new Orange. See, already even got a working title! Begone odious Frizzy girl. Begone!
Mordock999 Premium Member almost 8 years ago
âHey Tiff, whatâs Your code so I look into Your Phone and get Pyroâs InformaâŠ.., Oops.â â Bernice
mjowens1985 almost 8 years ago
Man, I hope Bernice gets kicked out of school for this, and then is never featured again in this strip.
Andrew Sleeth almost 8 years ago
Best get that Wall built, too, Bern. Youâll make a fine addition to the Trump team.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member almost 8 years ago
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I am not fond of Berniceâs technique here. It is annoying in the extreme. I can understand her not feeling it likely that Tiffany would willingly give her (Bernice) the number. But, a far better (perhaps less comedic, I guess) way to approach this would have been for Bernice explain the situation to Dez, and ask Dez to talk to Tiffany. If I recall correctly, Piro IS Dezâs friend, and while she apparently does not have Piroâs number, the fact alone that Piro is her friend would make it fully plausible and easy for Dez to go ask Tiffany something like, âHey Tiff, I think you know my friend Piro, and may have his phone number. Can I get it from you? I donât have it and I wanted to talk to him.â I cannot see any reason for Tiffany to withhold the number from Dez.
cheesehead almost 8 years ago
idiot
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr almost 8 years ago
âAnd Iâll need your thumbprint on the phoneâŠuh, formâ.
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr almost 8 years ago
Bernice has already been told that Piro (pjÉÊo) is selective as to whom he gives his number.
http://assets.amuniversal.com/47890190c3cc01343b54005056a9545d.jpg
And he hasnât given it to HER.So, 2 + 2 = no âsmartsâ for Bernice.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen almost 8 years ago
All tend to abuse power once given a taste.
Petersenbus almost 8 years ago
Maybe weâve got it backwards. Suppose Piro is really homeless (we donât know this for sure) and suppose he is attracted to Bernice (since she let him stay overnight in her room against the rules). He isnât overtly pursuing her, believing she wouldnât be romantically interested in a homeless guy (low self-esteem) and heâs afraid she might think he was stalking her. If this seems out of character for him, well, everyone seems to think Bernice is acting out of character for her. Alternatively, maybe Piro has a wife and six kids living under a bridge because he lost his job and their home when he couldnât pay the mortgage. This isnât much farther out than Les finding out Pru is gay. Or maybe Piro is Mr. Greyâs long-lost son who had been disowned. The possibilities are endless.
Argy.Bargy2 almost 8 years ago
@PETERSENBUS: I agree that the possibilities are endless as far as Piroâs backstory. I think thatâs why so many of us are interested in itâŠ
seismic-2 Premium Member almost 8 years ago
âHello, Piro?â
âBernice? Is that you? How did you get this number?â
âI stole it off Tiffanyâs phone! Listen, I was wondering if when you get back from your appointment with Dr. Heald maybe you and I couldâ
[Piro hangs up and immediately dials 911]
Schrodinger's Dog almost 8 years ago
The possibilities may be endless, but the probabilities are with only a few options.
LoriGrant almost 8 years ago
I used to like Bernice. This whole thing with Piro has revised my opinion of her, to the point where I actually like Tiffany more. Interesting development.
Outsideplaying almost 8 years ago
And I wonder if Tiffanyâs BS meter is about to go off.
ZeMastor almost 8 years ago
Wow, Bernice is getting more and more dis-likable with each new arc. Now sheâs pretending to use her âauthorityâ as a R.A. to pretend to grant herself Gestapo-like powers. Disgraceful and disgusting and deplorable! Remember how she was like at H.S. graduation? She even had Tiff help her with a makeover.
If Tiff had a brain (sheâs not stupid) the logical thing would be to say, âThis doesnât sound right. Why should I inventory all of my possessions for you? Here. let me check with your supervisor.â Then, BUSTED, Bernice!
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] almost 8 years ago
Bernice the PI.
beb01 almost 8 years ago
God, this is so stupid. Mr Egan⊠Get a writer. Real writer, NOW.
Luanaphile almost 8 years ago
I have decided this generation calls certain activities âstalkingâ that were just âpursuingâ in my day, as in âAllâs fair in love and war.â
RSH almost 8 years ago
Bernice should not call Piro on his cell. I hope she doesnât. He never gave her his # so it would be intrusive. She should just wait till she sees him again.