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This is probably the most âcurrent eventâ Iâve seen in an A&J strip. Arlo has been famous for his concern over our countryâs economic viability if we do not have a wild spending spree for ChristmasâŠ
I can only hope this experience will eat away at the perceived profits of the companies who took that route, enough to cause them to rethink the benefits of American workers manufacturing American made goods in America, with only 3,000 road miles from origin to destination. Sigh!
Starting in the early 70âs, our jobs went from a worker making $25/hr in the USA, to $25/day in Mexico, to $25/week in China. Our woe is a direct result of rich business ownerâs chasing profit ahead of our nationâs security and health.
Who would have thought this would occur when business owners shipped their companies to nations allowing workers to be paid pittances and have no safety/environmental laws that this might be a consequence?
And thatâs not even mentioning the outsourcing of much of our engineering know-how and a lot of entry-level jobs.
I think it was Khrushchev who said something like âthe capitalists will sell us the rope with which weâll hang them.â
This is what MBA management and short-term profit thinking gets you. In a way, Iâm glad the pandemic came when it did. Maybe itâs not too late to have learnt something from it.
Asians will put up with environmental hazards, pollution, lack of workplace safety, all at low wages, just to live another day. Westerners: not so much, especially those who can send their manufacturing expertise to Asia without any responsibility for improving working conditions there.
This is the origin of the so called âsupply chainâ problem.
Part of the âMade in the USAâ issue is that the cost of production is VERY high and the main expense is wages. Yes, I know unions help provide high wages and benefits to workers, but they do NOT admit that high wages and benefits are a HUGE expense to manufacturers and employers, who pass those costs onto the consumer with high prices, which in turn cause unions to demand even higher wages. It is a never ending upward spiral.Producers outsourced production to countries that have a stable, lower wage. They can manufacture the products at lower cost and keep their prices competitive.Donât always blame the producers. Look at where the REAL cost of production lay. If production costs could be kept stable, prices would remain stable as wellThe one item that defies this is oil. Producers like OPEC and Venezuela keep the supply low to keep prices high. That is the âLaw Of Supply and Demandâ. If demand is high and supply low, prices will be high. If supply is high and demand is low, prices will drop. Economics 101. If the demand for oil drops, and the supply remains stable, prices will drop. OPEC ALWAYS cuts the supply to force prices up. We NEED to cut our dependence on oil, but that will never happen as long as there are so many influential oil barons in the USA.
Maybe this will shock us back to the less âconspicuous consumptionâ days. Last year made a lot of weddings simpler. Perhaps this will begin to tame the âgotta have it nowâ urge.
So ⊠we see the same problem (if in the US) if the supplier is in Mexico or South America there isnât a boat, it is a train or a truck. We have the same problem with products getting from North Carolina to Los Angeles. The boat isnât really the problem.
When Japan chose to make war against the United States in 1941 the only real concern was for the USâs industrial capacity. When the time to make âLiberty shipsâ dropped to an average of 30 days that concern became a genuine threat.
Americans have to be willing to pay the much higher prices that would result from Made in America products. Can hear the hue and cry right now â never will happen
Panel 3 is right on. Remember when we shipped all those good paying jobs oversees and supplemented them with service jobs for Americans at minimum wage. Thanks big corporations for talking congress into thinking it was good for out economy.
Another unintended consequence of shipping most of our manufacturing to China is that we are paying for the military build up of China. An enemy we could very well find ourselves in a shooting war with in the next 5 â 10 years. China is practicing and training for an invasion of Taiwan.
I try and TRY to explain the fact that the virus-infected northern coal fields of China which fuels the factories that âmake our toys and products,â all slowed down by âthe virusâ that slows down shipping, which slows down trucking, which slows down EVERYTHING here, but NO !! Itâs all âthe present administrationâsâ fault ! Jeeez !! Dominos, anyone??
Well, yeah, but when the decision was made Libertarian economics (neoliberalism) had been raised by the GOP to the pinnacle of national economic policy (aided in no small part by a large percentage of Democrats) during the Reagan administration.
Off-shoring production not only benefited ROI (return on investment, ordained by god or somebody as the primary â all but sole â purpose of economic endeavor), it also inserted a poisoned-blade dagger into labor unionization. Capitol 100 â workers 0.
Republicans gloated, thinking Game Over.
Because what makes money today almost always â when reactionary conservatism is calling the shots â overrules any opposing point of view.
And ruling capital holding elites in the 70âs/80âs were very focused on recovering unfavorable income distribution New Deal-~1975 (meaning middle class wealth [and then some!] that would have never eluded their grasp if not for economic/taxation policy during those approximately 40 years) that âbelongedâ to them, having been âstolenâ unjustly. And squashing those inferior upstart working class bugs who dared âstealâ wealth from them, to boot!
What could possibly go wrong with their plan? All they did was return things to their ânatural orderâ(sic) â a phrase often used by economic (and religious) conservatives to justify historical precedent based upon Appeal to Authority (âgodâs planâ and âit has been/was always this wayâ).
But has it ever been the most just, the most fair, even the most rational (pragmatic)? (from the right, in response: crickets)
Thank goodness that goods donât need to moved by truck or train as long as theyâre made in the US. Also, Iâm grateful that goods made in the US donât need parts or components that originate from outside the country. Whew!
A week ago, there was around 65 vessels off Long Beach staged for docking.., now thereâs over 100. Longshoremen management doesnât want to pay overtime to catch up, to the point where the cascade effect will be biblical.
I can only hope that people realize the actual cause of the supply chain disruption, and not blame it nationalistic notions.
Companies which switched to just-in-time inventory control underestimated the likelihood of an improbably-large delay in deliveries. So when governments created the disruptions in the supply chain by shutting down so much of the economy, they werenât able to ride out the delays using warehoused parts/material.
Companies that for years ate the cost of maintaining âtoo muchâ inventory were in a better position to stay in operation during times of supply-chain disruption. They could not only sell all they could make at typical prices, but even sell at higher prices.
Of course, at that point, their reward for being prudent for all those years would not only be entirely justifiable higher profits to offset the lower profits from the years of investing in âtoo muchâ inventory, but anger from customers, and accusations of âgougingâ from politicians â and possibly punishment.
So, maybe those companies that supposedly underestimated the likelihood of an occasional supply-chain disruption did not. They knew their prudence wouldnât be rewarded, but punished.
mywifeslover over 3 years ago
This is probably the most âcurrent eventâ Iâve seen in an A&J strip. Arlo has been famous for his concern over our countryâs economic viability if we do not have a wild spending spree for ChristmasâŠ
Thechildinme over 3 years ago
I can only hope this experience will eat away at the perceived profits of the companies who took that route, enough to cause them to rethink the benefits of American workers manufacturing American made goods in America, with only 3,000 road miles from origin to destination. Sigh!
Bullet Bronson Premium Member over 3 years ago
Who could have imagined something might go wrong? Um, anybody with half a brain?
Bullet Bronson Premium Member over 3 years ago
Looks like somebodyâs Christmas just fell off the ship.
charliefarmrhere over 3 years ago
The truth finally hits home. The Chinese donât need their military to defeat us, they already own us from the inside & out.
nosirrom over 3 years ago
The way things are going in the labor market I think we would have supply line issues even if it was manufactured here.
John Smith over 3 years ago
Greed never learns
Jeffin Premium Member over 3 years ago
Contain yourself, A.
artmer over 3 years ago
Starting in the early 70âs, our jobs went from a worker making $25/hr in the USA, to $25/day in Mexico, to $25/week in China. Our woe is a direct result of rich business ownerâs chasing profit ahead of our nationâs security and health.
annefackler61 over 3 years ago
Here in Virginia theres a company called Smithfield Foods (pork products). It was bought buy China 6 or 7 years ago.
david_42 over 3 years ago
When you need everything to be cheap, because your job got shipped overseasâŠ
NeedaChuckle Premium Member over 3 years ago
A container used to cost $2K each to ship from China, now it is from $13K to $19K. Used to take 6 days to unload, now 16 days.
mourdac Premium Member over 3 years ago
Who would have thought this would occur when business owners shipped their companies to nations allowing workers to be paid pittances and have no safety/environmental laws that this might be a consequence?
Clotty Peristalt over 3 years ago
And thatâs not even mentioning the outsourcing of much of our engineering know-how and a lot of entry-level jobs.
I think it was Khrushchev who said something like âthe capitalists will sell us the rope with which weâll hang them.â
This is what MBA management and short-term profit thinking gets you. In a way, Iâm glad the pandemic came when it did. Maybe itâs not too late to have learnt something from it.
ScullyUFO over 3 years ago
Asians will put up with environmental hazards, pollution, lack of workplace safety, all at low wages, just to live another day. Westerners: not so much, especially those who can send their manufacturing expertise to Asia without any responsibility for improving working conditions there.
This is the origin of the so called âsupply chainâ problem.
William Bednar Premium Member over 3 years ago
Considering all the negative comment against China, why would anyone want a Socialist/Communist style Government here in the U.S.?
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 3 years ago
Yes Arlo, who could have???
Tyge over 3 years ago
Whereâs the guy with the orange hair when you need him?
DawnQuinn1 over 3 years ago
Part of the âMade in the USAâ issue is that the cost of production is VERY high and the main expense is wages. Yes, I know unions help provide high wages and benefits to workers, but they do NOT admit that high wages and benefits are a HUGE expense to manufacturers and employers, who pass those costs onto the consumer with high prices, which in turn cause unions to demand even higher wages. It is a never ending upward spiral.Producers outsourced production to countries that have a stable, lower wage. They can manufacture the products at lower cost and keep their prices competitive.Donât always blame the producers. Look at where the REAL cost of production lay. If production costs could be kept stable, prices would remain stable as wellThe one item that defies this is oil. Producers like OPEC and Venezuela keep the supply low to keep prices high. That is the âLaw Of Supply and Demandâ. If demand is high and supply low, prices will be high. If supply is high and demand is low, prices will drop. Economics 101. If the demand for oil drops, and the supply remains stable, prices will drop. OPEC ALWAYS cuts the supply to force prices up. We NEED to cut our dependence on oil, but that will never happen as long as there are so many influential oil barons in the USA.
flying spaghetti monster over 3 years ago
The problem isnât china, to quote pogo âWe Have Met the Enemy and He Is Usâ
Thanksfortheinfo2000 over 3 years ago
Maybe this will shock us back to the less âconspicuous consumptionâ days. Last year made a lot of weddings simpler. Perhaps this will begin to tame the âgotta have it nowâ urge.
micromos over 3 years ago
Stay away from Asia. Of course we need to get rid of dopey joe first.
zbart778. over 3 years ago
arlo has a fine point
Thinkingblade over 3 years ago
So ⊠we see the same problem (if in the US) if the supplier is in Mexico or South America there isnât a boat, it is a train or a truck. We have the same problem with products getting from North Carolina to Los Angeles. The boat isnât really the problem.
flagmichael Premium Member over 3 years ago
When Japan chose to make war against the United States in 1941 the only real concern was for the USâs industrial capacity. When the time to make âLiberty shipsâ dropped to an average of 30 days that concern became a genuine threat.
I doubt that would apply today.
chief tommy over 3 years ago
Americans have to be willing to pay the much higher prices that would result from Made in America products. Can hear the hue and cry right now â never will happen
donwestonmysteries over 3 years ago
Panel 3 is right on. Remember when we shipped all those good paying jobs oversees and supplemented them with service jobs for Americans at minimum wage. Thanks big corporations for talking congress into thinking it was good for out economy.
Bruce1253 over 3 years ago
Another unintended consequence of shipping most of our manufacturing to China is that we are paying for the military build up of China. An enemy we could very well find ourselves in a shooting war with in the next 5 â 10 years. China is practicing and training for an invasion of Taiwan.
KEA over 3 years ago
Business people rarely take the long view, only what benefits short-term profits.
unca jim over 3 years ago
I try and TRY to explain the fact that the virus-infected northern coal fields of China which fuels the factories that âmake our toys and products,â all slowed down by âthe virusâ that slows down shipping, which slows down trucking, which slows down EVERYTHING here, but NO !! Itâs all âthe present administrationâsâ fault ! Jeeez !! Dominos, anyone??
Mentor397 over 3 years ago
And having them delivered Just In Time (JIT) with minimal backlog and storage surely didnât help either.
lsnrchrd.1 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Well, yeah, but when the decision was made Libertarian economics (neoliberalism) had been raised by the GOP to the pinnacle of national economic policy (aided in no small part by a large percentage of Democrats) during the Reagan administration.
Off-shoring production not only benefited ROI (return on investment, ordained by god or somebody as the primary â all but sole â purpose of economic endeavor), it also inserted a poisoned-blade dagger into labor unionization. Capitol 100 â workers 0.
Republicans gloated, thinking Game Over.
Because what makes money today almost always â when reactionary conservatism is calling the shots â overrules any opposing point of view.
And ruling capital holding elites in the 70âs/80âs were very focused on recovering unfavorable income distribution New Deal-~1975 (meaning middle class wealth [and then some!] that would have never eluded their grasp if not for economic/taxation policy during those approximately 40 years) that âbelongedâ to them, having been âstolenâ unjustly. And squashing those inferior upstart working class bugs who dared âstealâ wealth from them, to boot!
What could possibly go wrong with their plan? All they did was return things to their ânatural orderâ(sic) â a phrase often used by economic (and religious) conservatives to justify historical precedent based upon Appeal to Authority (âgodâs planâ and âit has been/was always this wayâ).
But has it ever been the most just, the most fair, even the most rational (pragmatic)? (from the right, in response: crickets)
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen over 3 years ago
baskets and eggs.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen over 3 years ago
Mainly, need more points of entry, easier access.
(and Three-D Printing)
lawguy05 over 3 years ago
Indeed, Arlo!
dnotkin Premium Member over 3 years ago
Thank goodness that goods donât need to moved by truck or train as long as theyâre made in the US. Also, Iâm grateful that goods made in the US donât need parts or components that originate from outside the country. Whew!
cosman over 3 years ago
A week ago, there was around 65 vessels off Long Beach staged for docking.., now thereâs over 100. Longshoremen management doesnât want to pay overtime to catch up, to the point where the cascade effect will be biblical.
Dr_Fogg over 3 years ago
The government is paying people to stay home
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] over 3 years ago
The pollution is tremendous. We should make things here.
byamrcn over 3 years ago
YES. Well said Mr. Johnson. This is what happens when decisions get made based on economic theory with no consideration for the larger consequences.
lindz.coop Premium Member over 3 years ago
YeahâŠwhat could possibly go wrong?
EricS.Harris over 3 years ago
I can only hope that people realize the actual cause of the supply chain disruption, and not blame it nationalistic notions.
Companies which switched to just-in-time inventory control underestimated the likelihood of an improbably-large delay in deliveries. So when governments created the disruptions in the supply chain by shutting down so much of the economy, they werenât able to ride out the delays using warehoused parts/material.
Companies that for years ate the cost of maintaining âtoo muchâ inventory were in a better position to stay in operation during times of supply-chain disruption. They could not only sell all they could make at typical prices, but even sell at higher prices.
Of course, at that point, their reward for being prudent for all those years would not only be entirely justifiable higher profits to offset the lower profits from the years of investing in âtoo muchâ inventory, but anger from customers, and accusations of âgougingâ from politicians â and possibly punishment.
So, maybe those companies that supposedly underestimated the likelihood of an occasional supply-chain disruption did not. They knew their prudence wouldnât be rewarded, but punished.
carlosrivers over 3 years ago
Very well putâŠ