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Thatās why we have all those sayings about how all people are the same color on the inside, walking a mile in someoneās shoes, seeing things from the other personās viewpoint, etc. And those things actually do work. Some. From time to time. For people who are already inclined that wayā¦
One of the difficulties in our society (not that other societies donāt have similar issues, but Iām only focusing on ours for now), is that we are a society focused on winning. From an early age, we teach our children that winning is pretty much everything. The contests we enter our kids in at an early age puts incredible pressure on them (I certainly remember it), and it never ends. The focus our schools put on competitive sports is intense. This rolls over to other aspects of life. We āwinā at business by beating the other guy even if we have a comfortable share of the market already. We win at politics not by governing but by āowningā the other side.
I donāt know how to change that mentality, but I donāt think weāll get very far if we donāt stop teaching our kids how to make a virtue out of beating āthemā.
The sign at the Mexican border has an arrow pointing into the US and says BEINVIETO! whereas the one at the Ukrainian border says āPROTECTED BY THE LIVES AND BLOOD OF YOUNG AMERICAN SERVICEMENā. Its all about priorities. Come on, man.
This mistrust/fear/anger derives from maybe a billion years of evolution. Our ancestors survived because they realized instinctively the value of tribalism ā anyone different is simply a competitor for a limited food supply. I saw this exemplified in a couple large flocks of identical Canadian geese waddling through a park. I noticed that one flock each had a tiny leg band, while the other had none ā no exceptions. With the advent of civilization, this has become more than a nuisance; thus the Bible exhorts us to rise above our instincts and be āBorn again.ā
The REAL never-ending border is the one between those who want independence and those who want dependence. Itās self-determination vs. tyranny, and morality vs. amorality(also known as Moral Relativism).
Biden is a traitor to America. Here he is caught red handed (again, this happened in Florida too). He is fliying illegal aliens to Westchester New York in the middle of the night!
Here is Biden releasing them from a migrant center by the bus load to be brought to airports! No kids, no famililes, nearly all adult males who are illegal aliens!
It is troubling how we put labels on ourselves, and others, at an early age and then remain āloyalā to those labels for life, even when the object of the label (an āRā or āDā ie) changes completely and repeatedly over our lives. Politicians know this and that 40+-% of us are going to vote based on the label, no matter what, because we are self-conditioned to at least distrust, if not hate, the other side(s). After all, if their side isnāt wrong than ours must be and thatās just unthinkable (god forbid that we could BOTH be right). The more unscrupulous politicians can then concentrate on swinging just a few percentage points, mostly by pandering to ego, fear and tribalism, while ignoring the principals, morals, integrity and honesty we all think our side is grounded on. And we are stupid enough to let them get away with it, over and over and over. If we are unwilling to hold our own to our high standards what does that say about us?? Maybe we should stop looking to the other side to find our troubles, and look to ourselves instead. Probably impossible since, at the moment, only one side seems to even try to play by the rules.
The more walls we build the more tunnels they build. Employment for many and enjoyment for some. How cool would it be to have a bar/lounge in a tunnel directly under the wall.
All good people agree, And all good people say,All nice people, like Us, are We And every one else is They:But if you cross over the sea, Instead of over the way,You may end by (think of it!) looking on We As only a sort of They!
This one made me stop and think.Who is promoting this divide. Certainly the āgatekeepersā who not only put up the sign, but most probably the wall. Of late, with all the polarization in our world, I have become skeptical of the motives of some of the institutions we depend on for guidance on the complex issues of our time. Itās a hard argument to make that a healthy skepticism is a bad thing. I do believe if you do carry this belief into the fray, you might want to understand your part in the problem. Iām suggesting that if we took down this wall we most likely will find that them aināt so different from us. The gatekeeper may be out of a job, (it sometimes pays well as I understand it) but we might all see a more reasoned, emotionally mature and stable world for it.
WARNING!!!! All of US better run and hide, because THEY are now complaining about ANOTHER awful event that will bring on the end of Civilization as we know it!!!
Minnie Mouse is getting a couple of new Outfits to wear at Paris Disneyland, including āGASPā A PANTSUIT!!! OH, THE HORROR!!
And I wish that I was making this upā¦ but Iām NOT!!
Biden cares more about the Ukrainian border than our own! Murderers and rapists and cartel gang members are coming across unchecked ā and the Demoncrats DO NOT CARE!
We are all āthemā to the 1% who run things. Because āWeā let them. We pretty much deserve what we get. We could change things, but We are just too stupid.
Us (us, us, us, us) and them (them, them, them, them)And after all weāre only ordinary menMeAnd you (you, you, you)God only knowsItās not what we would choose (choose, choose) to do (to do, to do)Forward he cried from the rearAnd the front rank diedAnd the general satAnd the lines on the mapMoved from side to sideā¦ā¦ā¦
And violence perpetrated by one side only. When assault rifles were banned in 1994-gun deaths went down 43% and when it was allowed to expire in 2006 it went up 239%!
Superfrog about 3 years ago
If no one claims to be them, we all must be us.
in.amongst about 3 years ago
Sigh! another pronoun war?!?
Enter.Name.Here about 3 years ago
āUs, and them.
And after all, weāre only ordinary men.
Me, and you.
God only knows itās not what we would choose to do."
braindead Premium Member about 3 years ago
Actually, Wiley, it should read:
Those People
and
Real Americans.
Concretionist about 3 years ago
Thatās why we have all those sayings about how all people are the same color on the inside, walking a mile in someoneās shoes, seeing things from the other personās viewpoint, etc. And those things actually do work. Some. From time to time. For people who are already inclined that wayā¦
dadoctah about 3 years ago
Follow that wall off into the distance only to find that it wraps back around to the other side, only with the sides reversed.
Itās the Mƶbius Frontier.
eastern.woods.metal about 3 years ago
At least they are decides.Not like the undecideds yesterday
cdward about 3 years ago
One of the difficulties in our society (not that other societies donāt have similar issues, but Iām only focusing on ours for now), is that we are a society focused on winning. From an early age, we teach our children that winning is pretty much everything. The contests we enter our kids in at an early age puts incredible pressure on them (I certainly remember it), and it never ends. The focus our schools put on competitive sports is intense. This rolls over to other aspects of life. We āwinā at business by beating the other guy even if we have a comfortable share of the market already. We win at politics not by governing but by āowningā the other side.
I donāt know how to change that mentality, but I donāt think weāll get very far if we donāt stop teaching our kids how to make a virtue out of beating āthemā.
MY DOG IS MY CO PILOT about 3 years ago
Must be Pink Floyd fans.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDbeqj-1XOo
William Bednar Premium Member about 3 years ago
Itās not for nothing that the word āUkraineā means āBorder areaā.
MichaelAxelFleming about 3 years ago
And after all weāre only ordinary men.
Count Olaf Premium Member about 3 years ago
The sign at the Mexican border has an arrow pointing into the US and says BEINVIETO! whereas the one at the Ukrainian border says āPROTECTED BY THE LIVES AND BLOOD OF YOUNG AMERICAN SERVICEMENā. Its all about priorities. Come on, man.
JohnCL about 3 years ago
They really know how to do it at this India-Pakistan border. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12cBeHhvMA8
Egrayjames about 3 years ago
Thatās about right. Take away from us and give it to them, until we have none and then become them.
Geophyzz about 3 years ago
This mistrust/fear/anger derives from maybe a billion years of evolution. Our ancestors survived because they realized instinctively the value of tribalism ā anyone different is simply a competitor for a limited food supply. I saw this exemplified in a couple large flocks of identical Canadian geese waddling through a park. I noticed that one flock each had a tiny leg band, while the other had none ā no exceptions. With the advent of civilization, this has become more than a nuisance; thus the Bible exhorts us to rise above our instincts and be āBorn again.ā
The Pro from Dover about 3 years ago
We They Us Them Who Knows Alka Seltzer
Lenavid about 3 years ago
The REAL never-ending border is the one between those who want independence and those who want dependence. Itās self-determination vs. tyranny, and morality vs. amorality(also known as Moral Relativism).
Free or Not? Premium Member about 3 years ago
Biden is a traitor to America. Here he is caught red handed (again, this happened in Florida too). He is fliying illegal aliens to Westchester New York in the middle of the night!
https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/biden-is-hiding-illegal-immigration-with-secret-flights/
Here is Biden releasing them from a migrant center by the bus load to be brought to airports! No kids, no famililes, nearly all adult males who are illegal aliens!
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2022/01/25/watch-biden-admin-mass-releases-single-adult-migrants-into-texas-border-city/
Impeach the man engaging in human trafficking: Joe Biden!
shawnc1959 about 3 years ago
Completely aside, search for videos of the Wagah closing ceremony at the India/Pakistan border. Pretty interesting to watch.
bbenoit about 3 years ago
It is troubling how we put labels on ourselves, and others, at an early age and then remain āloyalā to those labels for life, even when the object of the label (an āRā or āDā ie) changes completely and repeatedly over our lives. Politicians know this and that 40+-% of us are going to vote based on the label, no matter what, because we are self-conditioned to at least distrust, if not hate, the other side(s). After all, if their side isnāt wrong than ours must be and thatās just unthinkable (god forbid that we could BOTH be right). The more unscrupulous politicians can then concentrate on swinging just a few percentage points, mostly by pandering to ego, fear and tribalism, while ignoring the principals, morals, integrity and honesty we all think our side is grounded on. And we are stupid enough to let them get away with it, over and over and over. If we are unwilling to hold our own to our high standards what does that say about us?? Maybe we should stop looking to the other side to find our troubles, and look to ourselves instead. Probably impossible since, at the moment, only one side seems to even try to play by the rules.
boydjb47 about 3 years ago
Take away the signs and this would be a more secure border with Mexico and USA.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member about 3 years ago
The more walls we build the more tunnels they build. Employment for many and enjoyment for some. How cool would it be to have a bar/lounge in a tunnel directly under the wall.
sandpiper about 3 years ago
Plus ca changĆ©, plus cāest la meme chose
goboboyd about 3 years ago
Perspective. Empathy is that narrow strip in the middle.
mordalo about 3 years ago
And after all, weāre only ordinary menā¦
Charles Ransdell Premium Member about 3 years ago
Whatās a border, asks our sorry-ass excuse for a POTUS.
mindjob about 3 years ago
Iām going to the side with the nicest pavement
Lynnjav about 3 years ago
we have met the enemyā¦
richhill48 about 3 years ago
All good people agree, And all good people say,All nice people, like Us, are We And every one else is They:But if you cross over the sea, Instead of over the way,You may end by (think of it!) looking on We As only a sort of They!
mistercatworks about 3 years ago
In the old āSaturn Cafeā in Santa Cruz, CA, the bathroom doors were labeled āUsā and āThemā. (Nobody asked)
Mediatech about 3 years ago
Here in Canada, on that side of the border is USA, and on this side of the border is us eh.
Well.....drink some of this! Premium Member about 3 years ago
This one made me stop and think.Who is promoting this divide. Certainly the āgatekeepersā who not only put up the sign, but most probably the wall. Of late, with all the polarization in our world, I have become skeptical of the motives of some of the institutions we depend on for guidance on the complex issues of our time. Itās a hard argument to make that a healthy skepticism is a bad thing. I do believe if you do carry this belief into the fray, you might want to understand your part in the problem. Iām suggesting that if we took down this wall we most likely will find that them aināt so different from us. The gatekeeper may be out of a job, (it sometimes pays well as I understand it) but we might all see a more reasoned, emotionally mature and stable world for it.
el_eye about 3 years ago
Wiley is the winner today. Great Strip!!!
Cozmik Cowboy about 3 years ago
Now thereās a reich-wing wet dream.
unfair.de about 3 years ago
The narrowes part of Texas. Itās the US right and left, but THEM along the wall.
mwksix about 3 years ago
I thought that they removed all funding for a wallā¦
Pisces about 3 years ago
LOL ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ good one Wiley. Wouldnāt it be great if country leaders grew up and concentrated on the planetās needs instead of their egos?
198.23.5.11 about 3 years ago
Aw,just pole vault over the useless thing.
Masterskrain about 3 years ago
WARNING!!!! All of US better run and hide, because THEY are now complaining about ANOTHER awful event that will bring on the end of Civilization as we know it!!!
Minnie Mouse is getting a couple of new Outfits to wear at Paris Disneyland, including āGASPā A PANTSUIT!!! OH, THE HORROR!!
And I wish that I was making this upā¦ but Iām NOT!!
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/disney-minnie-mouse-gets-a-new-pantsuit-candace-owens-says-its-making-her-more-masculine-230129623.html
lawguy05 about 3 years ago
Biden cares more about the Ukrainian border than our own! Murderers and rapists and cartel gang members are coming across unchecked ā and the Demoncrats DO NOT CARE!
Ka`ÅnÅhi`ula`okahÅkÅ«miomio`ehiku Premium Member about 3 years ago
The world over. So sad.
Dr_Fogg about 3 years ago
āWe Have Met the Enemy and He Is Usā
moondog42 Premium Member about 3 years ago
After all, weāre just ordinary men
leemorse9777 about 3 years ago
We are all āthemā to the 1% who run things. Because āWeā let them. We pretty much deserve what we get. We could change things, but We are just too stupid.
docflash about 3 years ago
Us (us, us, us, us) and them (them, them, them, them)And after all weāre only ordinary menMeAnd you (you, you, you)God only knowsItās not what we would choose (choose, choose) to do (to do, to do)Forward he cried from the rearAnd the front rank diedAnd the general satAnd the lines on the mapMoved from side to sideā¦ā¦ā¦
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LezoMi3yftM
SrTechWriter about 3 years ago
Please take note of Wileyās stupendous, quiet use of the useless āTrump wallā.
bobgreenwade about 3 years ago
Looks like the center aisle in the chamber of the US Senate.
MCProfessor about 3 years ago
If they donāt look like me or thinks like me the have to be the enemy.
boltjenkins1 about 3 years ago
Ok, I just got it. Us and them go each way at the same time, which makes no sense.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] about 3 years ago
And violence perpetrated by one side only. When assault rifles were banned in 1994-gun deaths went down 43% and when it was allowed to expire in 2006 it went up 239%!
keenanthelibrarian about 3 years ago
Sounds very inclusive, but with a cordon sanitaire to help matters along ā¦