The notes probably don’t need to go through the professor’s mind if he created them. Unless something has changed, they’re still valid and don’t require further thinking on his part.
If his students don’t pay attention, that’s on both parties — the professor for likely not engaging the students and the students for being apathetic and not caring about the reason they’re there in the first place.
In college I had an English professor who would just read is notes and every now and then he’d forget to discard he previous lecture and we’d get the same one all over again. He wouldn’t listen when we told him he’d already given . We were he last class, they made him ‘emeritus’ after us which means ’we’re not going to trust you around kids’
way back in the dark ages when I went to school – I kept challenging/questioning the prof concerning certains statements he was making and asking how he arrived at those statements. I was not beligerent nor “uppity” as they called it then, but 100 percent inquisitive because I had never heard what he was lecturing on. At first he was gracious enough to answer and interact. However, when I begin to ask how much was verified proof and not theory the atmosphere became quite “icy”. Later that week I was called into the Department head’s office and she told me I could no longer ask questions or contribute conversation of any kind as it “disrupted” the class. We had further conversation as to why etc. but the verdict remained the same. A year later I changed my major and minor and went on to study in the area I spent most of my life in. I did find from another prof in another school who was willing to be honest and answer “all” my questions that no one really had an answer to my questions nor interactions of “why” this conclusion and not the other possibilities. The professors that I had had were too proud to admit that there might be a possibility other than theirs. So IF you question them you were shut down for not being “smart” enough to “get it”. today the same thing takes place in acadamia constantly – DO NOT QUESTION NOR DISAGREE WITH MY REASONING OR CONCLUSIONS – EVEN IF I CAN NOT PROVE THEM LEGITIMATELY OR WITH EVEN BASIC REASON – JUST TAKE THE NOTES AND SHUT UP!!! And thus not only in acadamia but in almost all of life the “experts” for the most part as there are always esceptions, have become fools thinking they are wise. so sad. js
To all the people here who are talking about how little effort or committment you put into your schooling—why were you there? Why did you bother? Why did you think it was up to somebody else to make you learn whether you tried or not? I can understand that it’s harder if the teacher isn’t interesting or the subject matter is difficult, but why the attitude of entitled passivity? If you don’t care if your mind becomes a ball of mush, why would anyone else?
In the 60’s 50’s attended US provided night college while stationed in England. Profs were local, with a few Americans on study visits there. British profs’ accents were fascinating as were their lectures on various elements and events in British history. Questions were welcomed and discussions were lively. A good hour or two spent after boring days at the office.
When I returned to the US, I enrolled at a ‘revered’ uni. Disappointing. Classes were lecture only. It was like listening to a live broadcast. Sat for an hour, took notes that could have been printed and handed out, eventually got to exam that might or might not have covered the lecture info. No opportunity to ask for clarification.
Earned the sheepskin and walked very quickly away. Never been back.
Sums up modern teaching by PowerPoint with notes handed out to the students. Paying attention and writing things down helps commit the learning to memory.
oldthang about 2 months ago
Pretty much sums it up.
yoey1957 about 2 months ago
Tru, dat.
Izzy Moreno about 2 months ago
Lecture? I hardly knew her.
Gent about 2 months ago
Yupsolutely. This how the so called “education” is works.
Imagine about 2 months ago
The worst one is Hannibal Lecture.
Pony99CA about 2 months ago
The notes probably don’t need to go through the professor’s mind if he created them. Unless something has changed, they’re still valid and don’t require further thinking on his part.
If his students don’t pay attention, that’s on both parties — the professor for likely not engaging the students and the students for being apathetic and not caring about the reason they’re there in the first place.
Doug K about 2 months ago
Then again … just writing something down often helps to put and keep what is written down in the mind of the notetaker.
Just_Karl about 2 months ago
This is why I loved math. Lots of subjects were just memorizing facts, but solving equations proves you understand what was taught.
wongo about 2 months ago
Why, you lecturious old fool!
LtPowers about 2 months ago
Completely ignores that there are different learning styles. Not everyone has to learn by doing; others learn well by listening and taking notes.
Wizard of Ahz-no relation about 2 months ago
In college I had an English professor who would just read is notes and every now and then he’d forget to discard he previous lecture and we’d get the same one all over again. He wouldn’t listen when we told him he’d already given . We were he last class, they made him ‘emeritus’ after us which means ’we’re not going to trust you around kids’
Count Olaf Premium Member about 2 months ago
“A Census Taker Once Tried To Test Me. I Ate His Liver With Some Fava Beans, And A Nice Chianti.” ~ Hannibal Lecture
kjnrun about 2 months ago
That just about sums it up.
Saddenedby Premium Member about 2 months ago
way back in the dark ages when I went to school – I kept challenging/questioning the prof concerning certains statements he was making and asking how he arrived at those statements. I was not beligerent nor “uppity” as they called it then, but 100 percent inquisitive because I had never heard what he was lecturing on. At first he was gracious enough to answer and interact. However, when I begin to ask how much was verified proof and not theory the atmosphere became quite “icy”. Later that week I was called into the Department head’s office and she told me I could no longer ask questions or contribute conversation of any kind as it “disrupted” the class. We had further conversation as to why etc. but the verdict remained the same. A year later I changed my major and minor and went on to study in the area I spent most of my life in. I did find from another prof in another school who was willing to be honest and answer “all” my questions that no one really had an answer to my questions nor interactions of “why” this conclusion and not the other possibilities. The professors that I had had were too proud to admit that there might be a possibility other than theirs. So IF you question them you were shut down for not being “smart” enough to “get it”. today the same thing takes place in acadamia constantly – DO NOT QUESTION NOR DISAGREE WITH MY REASONING OR CONCLUSIONS – EVEN IF I CAN NOT PROVE THEM LEGITIMATELY OR WITH EVEN BASIC REASON – JUST TAKE THE NOTES AND SHUT UP!!! And thus not only in acadamia but in almost all of life the “experts” for the most part as there are always esceptions, have become fools thinking they are wise. so sad. js
ChessPirate about 2 months ago
So, directly from page (book) to page (test paper)? ☺
b.john71 about 2 months ago
lecture, that’s where I got caught up on sleep
rugeirn about 2 months ago
To all the people here who are talking about how little effort or committment you put into your schooling—why were you there? Why did you bother? Why did you think it was up to somebody else to make you learn whether you tried or not? I can understand that it’s harder if the teacher isn’t interesting or the subject matter is difficult, but why the attitude of entitled passivity? If you don’t care if your mind becomes a ball of mush, why would anyone else?
sandpiper about 2 months ago
In the 60’s 50’s attended US provided night college while stationed in England. Profs were local, with a few Americans on study visits there. British profs’ accents were fascinating as were their lectures on various elements and events in British history. Questions were welcomed and discussions were lively. A good hour or two spent after boring days at the office.
When I returned to the US, I enrolled at a ‘revered’ uni. Disappointing. Classes were lecture only. It was like listening to a live broadcast. Sat for an hour, took notes that could have been printed and handed out, eventually got to exam that might or might not have covered the lecture info. No opportunity to ask for clarification.
Earned the sheepskin and walked very quickly away. Never been back.
DKHenderson about 2 months ago
I don’t recall where I read it, but I have seen that definition (worded slightly differently) elsewhere.
ladykat about 2 months ago
I would hope to retain at least some of the lecture; there’ll be a test on the material some day.
zeexenon about 2 months ago
My flashback was pop filibustering me about burning down that huge field.
Strawberry King about 2 months ago
Not exactly brain food, is it?
brklnbern about 2 months ago
Pretty clever.
markkahler52 about 2 months ago
Lecture = Old Wives Tale
walter Premium Member about 2 months ago
Sums up modern teaching by PowerPoint with notes handed out to the students. Paying attention and writing things down helps commit the learning to memory.
samadartson about 2 months ago
I remember attending a talk about cannibalism…it was a Hannibal Lecture!
rockyridge1977 about 2 months ago
Really a blank page …..for both……
eddi-TBH about 2 months ago
There’s a degree of truth in that.