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When I was a kid, there was a fast paced card game called âhellâ. The adults didnât want to use that word around the children, so they changed the name of the game to âpounceâ. Now things have gone full circle.
Hmmm, now this is causing me some inner conflict. As much as I think Gunther is a controlling, borderline-emotionally-abusive Nice Guyâą who seems to think he owns Tiffany, I also support anything thatâll knock that disgustingly smug smirk off of Lesâs face and make him realize that his view of Tiffany as some object to be claimed is hardly better.
Thereâs literally nobody to root for here. I just want a plane to crash into their little bachelor pad and wipe them both out.
I think Les is so mad because he is really not trying to be that guy anymore and Gunther is just throwing his past in his face. Gunther really be acting holier than tho too when heâs not. Lesâs mother is Ann Eiffel itâs a miracle that he is actually showing improvement.
I hate to say this, but Les is right, and women do fall for jerks. And Gunther keeps harping about since third grade. If that rule holds good, Iâd have married my childhood sweetheart.
Looks like Gunther is the self-appointed moral policeman of the Luanniverse. He may get punched out, followed by the indignity of realizing he stood up for a lost cause.
Gunther does have a point. All night long, Les has been talking about Tiff as if she was a conquest, a piece of meat, practically drooling with sexual innuendos. Even if Gunth wasnât attracted to Tiff, as a friend, listening to that all night, would worry me and piss me off too.
How close did Gunther hit to home, to escalate to that response? Youâre a âsleazy dirtbagâ? Or you just want to âpounceâ Tiffany? Which one it is will hint at the future of the Dumbnamic Duo. And, most likely , their relationship with Tiffany.
This whole story line ticks me off so much. And people coming for Tiff like SHEâS the problem tick me off even more. Listen, Tiff has never shown either of these guys that sheâs interested in them romantically. Sheâs treated them like friends. She set up some time to hang out with friends, she even said as much to Gunth. Itâs Gunth and Lesâ own assumptions that made it something more and pit one against the other. Why? Because sheâs a woman and wanted to have a male friend⊠who now thinks heâs entitled to her romantically. And despite Tiff not doing a thing more than being a friend, sheâs being blamed for the ânice guyâ Gunth and the âbad boyâ Les going at each other, when really, sheâs not to blame for their sense of entitlement.
This story line will eventually lead to Gunther being the best/only friend Les has ever had. After the fight heâll understand Les in the way heâs come to understand Tiffany.
NOTE : look closely at the black balloon for the âSHUT UPâ and youâll see one little curly piece at the back bottom , not following the pattern of the other jagged spikes ( which indicate force of whatâs being said) ⊠that little curly piece is pointing down at Les.
no, Tiffany or Mr Gray are NOT there. It was meant to indicate Les as saying it.
Well, boys and girls, I guess weâll have to wait âtil Monday to find out how or if this is resolved. (Unless G and K decide to take us on a different arcâŠâŠ.Oh, lookâŠPuddles is chasing a butterfly!)
Well itâs not surprising that the way these panels are drawn this scene would occur. I think that Les saying âSHUT UPâ means that not only is it hurting to Les to be thought of that way, but he really does not mean to do with Tiffany what Gunther, with his judgmental and jealous self is implying. If Tiffany ever came on to Les sexually he would run the other way so fast because he is not really ready for that kind of relationship. Neither of them really are. One thing is pretty clear: this arc will continue next week.
Iâve always said that this strip was a variation on the Archie series, and this installment underscores the point. Instead of Betty and Veronica maintaining their BFF relationship while competing for Archie, here we have Reggie and Archie (well, more like Reggie and Dilton, actually) as roommates, yet going at one another over Veronica. Itâs all goodâŠâŠ
I know this will draw a lot of heat. Gunther needs to get his butt kicked. Someone should have had this talk with him long ago. You can not let you alligator mouth overload you humming bird butt. Gunther is reading and willing to hurl insults. A verbal assault often leads to a physical one. If you are going to run your mouth you must be ready to become violent. This is the way the world works. You yell insults and get in someone face and violence is a predictable outcome.
Yes Gunther, pipe down. Youâre taking it way to far and are asking for Les to give you a hostile reaction. Gunther is being so self-destructive right now heâs going to have 0 friends real soon.
My read is simple. Gunther is way out of line. Les may have been a creep in HS but many were, in one way or another but was Gunther really any better?
Gunther is interfering with Tiffanyâs decisions and âprotectingâ her from herself because he knows better but, in reality, Gunther doesnât really know anything. Heâs just assuming that he knows better than Tiffany whoâs demonstrated that sheâs quite capable on her own.
Les is a blowhard. Not much more to say about him. That doesnât mean that his intentions regarding Tiffany are negative. Itâs possible that Les simply doesnât know how to have positive interactions because theyâve been absent from his life and is forced to figure it out on his own. Thatâs a hard road.
All of the above said, I canât believe Im commenting like this on a comic strip.
Even if Les does in fact want to get it on with Tiffany, thatâs none of Guntherâs business. I donât recall that she ever appointed him to be her guardian. Thatâs a role that Gunther has assumed for himself (more nearly out of hatred for Les than out of fondness for Tiffany).
Uh OH⊠now it comes out, how these two really feel about each other. Up until now they have made good show of trying to get along..but no moreâŠ. whoo boyâŠ. yikes.
Where is Tea Fanny? Consulting with a plastic surgeon? Would be wiser to go to an automobile repair shop. They might be able to salvage TFâs avatar. As for yesterdayâs accusation that I used my connections to alter Tea Fannyâs image, that is preposterous. As the Dice Man famously said, âI was out havinâ coffee wit da boys.âwee lee?â =snerk= âYeah.â
Hereâs how it ends! Ex Ann Eiffel employee, Bernice, will call the cops and remind them that there is an outstanding warrant out on Ann and she can be found at Tom Farrelâs house! :o)
I think Les is a big talker where the gals are concerned. He was interested in Pru, but very far off the mark. They became friends. He remained friends with Tiffany despite her weight gain. He was so focused on liberating himself from his mother that he missed an opportunity with Tiffany. Remember when she bared a shoulder, but covered up when Les mentioned friendship. Perhaps, he doesnât mind talking big about Tiffany, but doesnât want Gunther saying it.
Oh, Gunther, if you want to say what you want, then you better be prepared for any type of blow back. You stepped over the bounds with Tiffany and now are doing it again with Les.
I remember a time when a fistfight would settle boundaries and could end with friendship or respect.
Namrepus over 6 years ago
I went to a party last Saturday night. I didnât get lâd, I got in a fight. It ainât no big thing.
Templo S.U.D. over 6 years ago
Afore you know it, Guntherâs mother and Leslieâs uncle will come into the house in order to see how theyâre doing.
capricorn9th over 6 years ago
SO why is Les angry and shutting Gunther down just when he was gonna say âpounce her?â
Prescott_Philosopher over 6 years ago
Repeating myself, Karen is expressing her view of men using little boys.
ironman01 over 6 years ago
Hmmm, seems like Gunther found a button. Touchy, touchy.
31768 over 6 years ago
And heâs about to find knuckle sandwich headed his way. I canât blame Less. I knew they would cancel each other out too.
sallymargaret over 6 years ago
When I was a kid, there was a fast paced card game called âhellâ. The adults didnât want to use that word around the children, so they changed the name of the game to âpounceâ. Now things have gone full circle.
sallymargaret over 6 years ago
Is anyone else having to sign in repeatedly? Is anyone else annoyed at having to click âread nowâ and âshow all commentsâ over and over?
AnyFace over 6 years ago
Please note that Gunther did not so much as flinch. âš
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen over 6 years ago
You tell âem, Tiffany.
(I assume that is who told them both to shut up.)
howtheduck over 6 years ago
You know the fight is serious when he grabs Guntherâs tie.
Joe1962 over 6 years ago
Les wants to shut Gunther down because he knows what Gunther is saying is the truth and sometimes the truth hurts.
31768 over 6 years ago
Gunther you are a friend, and will remain so forever. And Tiffany didnât need a savior.
31768 over 6 years ago
actually Tiff and Less needed to find the truth about each other out by themselves.
BJShipley1 over 6 years ago
Hmmm, now this is causing me some inner conflict. As much as I think Gunther is a controlling, borderline-emotionally-abusive Nice Guyâą who seems to think he owns Tiffany, I also support anything thatâll knock that disgustingly smug smirk off of Lesâs face and make him realize that his view of Tiffany as some object to be claimed is hardly better.
Thereâs literally nobody to root for here. I just want a plane to crash into their little bachelor pad and wipe them both out.live2read over 6 years ago
Good God!
Wilde Bill over 6 years ago
Iâm surprised that it took this long for them to come to blows.
drewpamon over 6 years ago
Gunther is about to learn a valuable lesson about provoking people.
sar over 6 years ago
I think Les is so mad because he is really not trying to be that guy anymore and Gunther is just throwing his past in his face. Gunther really be acting holier than tho too when heâs not. Lesâs mother is Ann Eiffel itâs a miracle that he is actually showing improvement.
Mordock999 Premium Member over 6 years ago
THERE! See? In Panel Three! THATâS the âLe$ Knoxâ Iâve been Telling you about!
Hey Gunther. Be sure to say: âWhatâs the matter, âLeslie?â Did I just hit a little old nerve??â (POW!!!)
And when you wake, up Press Charges.
Oh Iâm so happy these lads are finally getting along! ;)
steven01221971 over 6 years ago
I hate to say this, but Les is right, and women do fall for jerks. And Gunther keeps harping about since third grade. If that rule holds good, Iâd have married my childhood sweetheart.
wantcomicsnow over 6 years ago
Les the deluded still thinking heâs Godâs Gift. As I said before, a Legend in his Own Mind.
Lyons Group, Inc. over 6 years ago
This has gotten out of controlâŠthis strip, that is.
Faith :) over 6 years ago
Mrs. Berger and Mr. Gray have come home and Mr. Gray is the one that who yelled âshut upâ. Just a crazy theory, stranger things have happened.
kfccanada over 6 years ago
Cause he knows Gunther is telling the truthâŠ
kenhense over 6 years ago
Looks like Gunther is the self-appointed moral policeman of the Luanniverse. He may get punched out, followed by the indignity of realizing he stood up for a lost cause.
Argythree over 6 years ago
Way to leave us all without any resolution to this messâŠ
sactiger over 6 years ago
Iâll give Gunther props for not backing down from Les, and cowering in fear.Maybe âGunthâ is finally growing a pairâŠ?
oldcomicsfan over 6 years ago
Gunther does have a point. All night long, Les has been talking about Tiff as if she was a conquest, a piece of meat, practically drooling with sexual innuendos. Even if Gunth wasnât attracted to Tiff, as a friend, listening to that all night, would worry me and piss me off too.
fuzzbucket Premium Member over 6 years ago
Punch him while heâs posing, Gunther.
sueb1863 over 6 years ago
Congratulations, Les, Gunther can now have you charged with assault.
cubswin2016 over 6 years ago
The truth hurts, doesnât it?
Aladar30 Premium Member over 6 years ago
This will hurt. But Gunther did well to tell him those things. I like the way he looks at Les fearless.
Tyge over 6 years ago
How close did Gunther hit to home, to escalate to that response? Youâre a âsleazy dirtbagâ? Or you just want to âpounceâ Tiffany? Which one it is will hint at the future of the Dumbnamic Duo. And, most likely , their relationship with Tiffany.
Philly1115 over 6 years ago
Maybe Les just talks tough, and thatâs not really what he wanted.
KenCastillo over 6 years ago
Gunther needs to whip a 9mm out and put a bullet through Leslie Knoxâs putrid brain. Canât stand that SOB.
Tyge over 6 years ago
Odds maker time re Mondayâs strip:
1) Fisticuffs: 20%
2) Aftermath of fisticuffs: 25%
3) A faceoff and the doorbell rings: 40%
4) Apologies all around: 3%
5) A completely different arc begins: 85%
Note: Percentages do not add to 100% due to rounding. ;o)
Major Matt Mason Premium Member over 6 years ago
Itâs always sad when Felix and Oscar squabble.
31768 over 6 years ago
And one may end up taking a âsilly walkâ back to jail. And the other should be nominated for âtwit of the year.â
RussellColeman2 over 6 years ago
Itâs about time someone punched the whining little darling.
donwalter over 6 years ago
and why do I think that this might be the keystone moment that brings Gunther out of his milquetoast persona, as he pounds the bully into the ground?
Roxie80 over 6 years ago
This whole story line ticks me off so much. And people coming for Tiff like SHEâS the problem tick me off even more. Listen, Tiff has never shown either of these guys that sheâs interested in them romantically. Sheâs treated them like friends. She set up some time to hang out with friends, she even said as much to Gunth. Itâs Gunth and Lesâ own assumptions that made it something more and pit one against the other. Why? Because sheâs a woman and wanted to have a male friend⊠who now thinks heâs entitled to her romantically. And despite Tiff not doing a thing more than being a friend, sheâs being blamed for the ânice guyâ Gunth and the âbad boyâ Les going at each other, when really, sheâs not to blame for their sense of entitlement.
interestedbystander over 6 years ago
This story line will eventually lead to Gunther being the best/only friend Les has ever had. After the fight heâll understand Les in the way heâs come to understand Tiffany.
Tyge over 6 years ago
âNow we see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! Iâm being repressed!â â Monty Python
JayBluE over 6 years ago
âPoint, GuntherâŠ. play for the _tie, _ though, goes to Les. Guess thatâs one reason to shy away from ever donning neckwearâŠ..
JayBluE over 6 years ago
âCake And Punchâ
âA Fighting Chanceâ
âFisticuff Linksâ
âMano Y Stereoâ
âReservations And The Last Resortâ
âYou Canât Make It So, Without Needling & Threatsâ
âGuntherâs Got A Thug In His Programâ
âOddball, Corner Pocketâ
âA Visit From The Four Brothers On Thumb Streetâ
or
âCast Your Gaze Upon The Digital Displayâ
Tue Elung-Jensen over 6 years ago
Reminded of his dad perhaps?
RobMichalowski over 6 years ago
The truth is that women love bad boys and nice guys always finish last⊠Be honest now ladiesâŠ
Schrodinger's Dog over 6 years ago
NOTE : look closely at the black balloon for the âSHUT UPâ and youâll see one little curly piece at the back bottom , not following the pattern of the other jagged spikes ( which indicate force of whatâs being said) ⊠that little curly piece is pointing down at Les.
no, Tiffany or Mr Gray are NOT there. It was meant to indicate Les as saying it.
ctb11365 over 6 years ago
MORE IMPORTANT: Who is shouting âShut Up"?
Ina Tizzy over 6 years ago
Well, boys and girls, I guess weâll have to wait âtil Monday to find out how or if this is resolved. (Unless G and K decide to take us on a different arcâŠâŠ.Oh, lookâŠPuddles is chasing a butterfly!)
Wubbie over 6 years ago
These two are such a cute couple!
luann1212 over 6 years ago
Well itâs not surprising that the way these panels are drawn this scene would occur. I think that Les saying âSHUT UPâ means that not only is it hurting to Les to be thought of that way, but he really does not mean to do with Tiffany what Gunther, with his judgmental and jealous self is implying. If Tiffany ever came on to Les sexually he would run the other way so fast because he is not really ready for that kind of relationship. Neither of them really are. One thing is pretty clear: this arc will continue next week.
ForrestOverin over 6 years ago
Maybe on Monday, Gunther will have a black jail.
KrisThulinWise over 6 years ago
In light of current events, I canât imagine a more insensitive story line for a comic.
swanridge over 6 years ago
This arc needs to be overâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠ
TurbosDad over 6 years ago
Too much talking. FIGHT! FIGHT! (My moneyâs on Les)âŠ
Mayor Snorkum over 6 years ago
This is the least believable story arc in this strip that Iâve ever seen. A dweeb, a greaseball and a rich, newly overweight girl. Yeah, sure.
BlitzMcD over 6 years ago
Iâve always said that this strip was a variation on the Archie series, and this installment underscores the point. Instead of Betty and Veronica maintaining their BFF relationship while competing for Archie, here we have Reggie and Archie (well, more like Reggie and Dilton, actually) as roommates, yet going at one another over Veronica. Itâs all goodâŠâŠ
Rocknaww over 6 years ago
I know this will draw a lot of heat. Gunther needs to get his butt kicked. Someone should have had this talk with him long ago. You can not let you alligator mouth overload you humming bird butt. Gunther is reading and willing to hurl insults. A verbal assault often leads to a physical one. If you are going to run your mouth you must be ready to become violent. This is the way the world works. You yell insults and get in someone face and violence is a predictable outcome.
P8ntedBunting over 6 years ago
Yes Gunther, pipe down. Youâre taking it way to far and are asking for Les to give you a hostile reaction. Gunther is being so self-destructive right now heâs going to have 0 friends real soon.
mark47n over 6 years ago
My read is simple. Gunther is way out of line. Les may have been a creep in HS but many were, in one way or another but was Gunther really any better?
Gunther is interfering with Tiffanyâs decisions and âprotectingâ her from herself because he knows better but, in reality, Gunther doesnât really know anything. Heâs just assuming that he knows better than Tiffany whoâs demonstrated that sheâs quite capable on her own.
Les is a blowhard. Not much more to say about him. That doesnât mean that his intentions regarding Tiffany are negative. Itâs possible that Les simply doesnât know how to have positive interactions because theyâve been absent from his life and is forced to figure it out on his own. Thatâs a hard road.
All of the above said, I canât believe Im commenting like this on a comic strip.
Barnabus Blackoak over 6 years ago
notice Gunth isnât flinching.
Apokalis over 6 years ago
FightâŠfightâŠfight!!!
chris_weaver over 6 years ago
Hope Gunther knows a good surgeon.
Hope Les knows a good lawyer.
montylc2001 over 6 years ago
Gunth is rightâŠâŠbut he really needs to learn when to not go to far.
Ahuehuete over 6 years ago
So Gunth actually admitted heâs her ânice guyâ beta orbiter. And he understands that the âbad boyâ gets the girl.
Code the Enforcer over 6 years ago
Gunther doesnât back down (as noted earlier by some). And we really donât know where the âShut Upâ remark came from, just yet. Les?! Tiff?!
Fuz over 6 years ago
That punch would be fully deserved.
seismic-2 Premium Member over 6 years ago
Even if Les does in fact want to get it on with Tiffany, thatâs none of Guntherâs business. I donât recall that she ever appointed him to be her guardian. Thatâs a role that Gunther has assumed for himself (more nearly out of hatred for Les than out of fondness for Tiffany).
LeighBurton over 6 years ago
Who is yelling, âShut up!â I hope it is Ann Eiffel. That would make this plot much more interesting!
bakana over 6 years ago
Les does Not like to hear the Truth.
IOW, heâs got the ability to feel Shame & Guilt when itâs pointed out to him.
Otherwise, heâd be âHigh Fivingâ Gunther instead of getting Mad.
Train 1911 over 6 years ago
I believe when Monday comes Tiffany will be one who yells shut upAnd then the lecture will begin
RSH over 6 years ago
Uh OH⊠now it comes out, how these two really feel about each other. Up until now they have made good show of trying to get along..but no moreâŠ. whoo boyâŠ. yikes.
RSH over 6 years ago
when was the last time a dialog balloon was black? black is extreme anger or maybe hatred.
Sheriff Mordecai Premium Member over 6 years ago
Where is Tea Fanny? Consulting with a plastic surgeon? Would be wiser to go to an automobile repair shop. They might be able to salvage TFâs avatar. As for yesterdayâs accusation that I used my connections to alter Tea Fannyâs image, that is preposterous. As the Dice Man famously said, âI was out havinâ coffee wit da boys.âwee lee?â =snerk= âYeah.â
Sisyphos over 6 years ago
Gunther is about to be pummeled, as Leslie seeks to defend his, not Tiffanyâs, reputation from Guntherâs accusations and implicationsâŠ.
Mariposamia over 6 years ago
What ever happened to Luann? This is nuts and not much of a comic!
RonBerg13 Premium Member over 6 years ago
Uh, Les, I donât think Gunther is the type of guy whose tie you can just grab anymore.
Tyge over 6 years ago
Hereâs how it ends! Ex Ann Eiffel employee, Bernice, will call the cops and remind them that there is an outstanding warrant out on Ann and she can be found at Tom Farrelâs house! :o)
Airman over 6 years ago
Make comics fun again. These folks are downers.
Ruth Brown over 6 years ago
I think Les is a big talker where the gals are concerned. He was interested in Pru, but very far off the mark. They became friends. He remained friends with Tiffany despite her weight gain. He was so focused on liberating himself from his mother that he missed an opportunity with Tiffany. Remember when she bared a shoulder, but covered up when Les mentioned friendship. Perhaps, he doesnât mind talking big about Tiffany, but doesnât want Gunther saying it.
Oh, Gunther, if you want to say what you want, then you better be prepared for any type of blow back. You stepped over the bounds with Tiffany and now are doing it again with Les.
I remember a time when a fistfight would settle boundaries and could end with friendship or respect.