It would be nice if we could finally abandon our self-centered parochialism. The Neandertal people should properly be, and by some scientists are, called h.sap.neandertalensis not h.neandertalensis: they are humans, just a slightly different subspecies.
Actually, Neanderthal didn’t look that much different from Homo Sapiens. We’re talking about “doberman vs bulldog” (or maybe “doberman vs wolf”) differences and not “doberman vs panther” or “eagle vs hawk” differences.
Based on the behavior of people today, I have no doubt that the process of homo sapiens and homo neanderthalensis checking each other out and deciding, “Hey, that one’s hot!” happened across all four corners of the matrix. if there’s anything at all that we know about human beings, it’s that we human beings will f**k anything that moves sooner or later—and even things that don’t move.
Most of the still sparse evidence suggests that it was mostly modern human men mating Neanderthal and Denisovan women. The Neanderthals got their revenge. They gave humans their deadliest form of HPV.
Does anyone know where the arloandjanis.com page went?
When I use my old bookmark I get this message, “Hello! if you’re still coming here for the Arlo and Janis home page, you need to go here instead and reset your bookmark when you get there.” When I click on the “go here” link, it takes me back to the exact same page.
I am letting all the “neanderthal-human interbreeding” go on by. The first report of Neanderthal genes in human DNA turned out to be contamination – human genes are everywhere, especially in a “dig.” The following tests took steps to stop that, but the steps were not what I would call rigorous.
At the heart is something we can’t determine from the fragments of DNA that survived in bones 50,000 or more years old: humans, among all the Great Apes, have 23 pairs of chromosomes rather than 24. Our chromosome 2 is essentially chimpanzee chromosomes 11 & 12 fused (at the head, IIRC). If we could determine the number of Neanderthal chromosomes, we could definitively say they were humans. If not, they were not.
An aside: if anybody has as much time as curiosity, trying to get a handle on “Y-Adam” and “mitochondrial Eve” is an interesting journey. Skeletal similarities aside, it is likely humans have only been around for 150,000 years. The alternative is that we became nearly extinct then, but I have biological/mathematical doubts.
Question: is anyone else having trouble with www.arloandjanis.com? There is a link there that’s supposed to take you to the new page, but it only circles around to the same page. What am I missing?
If you get the 23andMe DNA test, one of the stats is how much Neanderthal DNA you have. I turned out to have a little under 3%, which put me in the top 1% of their customers.
So before the Neanderthals died out, they did some interbreeding with modern humans. And I suppose that in a couple of centuries hence, as modern humans are nearing extinction, we shall be interbreeding with the robots who will replace us. (Once you go android, you never go back.)
Ah, Janis is wrong. I distinctly remember in a comic book I had (1950’s) about prehistoric animals and primitive humans where it said that the Neanderthal women were ugly so instead of keeping them as “wives”, the Cro-Magnons simply ate them along with all the others they cannibalized! It didn’t say a word about the males nailing anything that moved.
I don’t know if Janis is “blaming” the Neanderthal males or the “anatomically modern human” (current terminology I believe) males here, but whether any cross-breeding was through the Neanderthal males or the females, it seems it was a slightly successful survival strategy: the Neanderthals have become extinct but a small amount of their genetic material lives on!
Tyge over 3 years ago
Neanderthal women! (snort, pant, wheeze)
Ahuehuete over 3 years ago
Spoken like a true Neanderthal, Janis!
Da'Dad over 3 years ago
I prefer JRR Tolkien’s take on it. There is a little Hobbit in us all.
nosirrom over 3 years ago
Introgression Introspection! Did Neanderthal genes make us smarter?
https://kids.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/frym.2019.00104
wjones over 3 years ago
Is this proven by checking DNA?
Boots at the Boar Premium Member over 3 years ago
STD’s can be traced back to animal sources. Men indeed!
whahoppened over 3 years ago
Charliegirl Premium Member over 3 years ago
You got it, Janis!
landyk over 3 years ago
Am I to believe that a lonely human woman couldn’t have had her way with a knuckle dragger?
Auntie Socialist over 3 years ago
The Neanderthals were based on one specimen who turned out to have been deformed
Màiri over 3 years ago
It would be nice if we could finally abandon our self-centered parochialism. The Neandertal people should properly be, and by some scientists are, called h.sap.neandertalensis not h.neandertalensis: they are humans, just a slightly different subspecies.
pathamil over 3 years ago
[Spoken}
“What we’re gonna do right here is go back, way back, back into time
When the only people that existed were troglodytes…cave men…
Cave women…Neanderthal…troglodytes…"
The Jimmy Castor Bunch – Troglodytes
prabbit237 over 3 years ago
Actually, Neanderthal didn’t look that much different from Homo Sapiens. We’re talking about “doberman vs bulldog” (or maybe “doberman vs wolf”) differences and not “doberman vs panther” or “eagle vs hawk” differences.
Michael G. over 3 years ago
After you’ve interbred? Janis, Janis, Janis.
Beaker over 3 years ago
Could be true. I always had a thing for Wilma Flintstone.
david_42 over 3 years ago
I Like ’em Big and Stupid – Julie Brown, Apologizes to the Neanderthals.
Jimmyk939 over 3 years ago
Uh oh, the secret is out.
ScullyUFO over 3 years ago
OK. So where did the “modern humans” come from?
trainnut1956 over 3 years ago
That Neanderthal theory would explain the NFL.
Going Nuts over 3 years ago
So Arlo is quietly sitting watching Andy Griffith reruns, and without saying a word ends up in the doghouse. Women….!
DawnQuinn1 over 3 years ago
It takes two to have real sex. If they interbred..then the female is just as guilty
rugeirn over 3 years ago
axe-grinder over 3 years ago
I’d think it was the modern human ladies who were inexplicably drawn to the “bad-boy” Neanderthals, based on the couples I see.
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 3 years ago
Just men…no women?
Mario500 over 3 years ago
“MEN!”?
MeGoNow Premium Member over 3 years ago
Most of the still sparse evidence suggests that it was mostly modern human men mating Neanderthal and Denisovan women. The Neanderthals got their revenge. They gave humans their deadliest form of HPV.
ChessPirate over 3 years ago
Yup, gotta be the man’s fault… (◔_◔)
Tom_Tildrum over 3 years ago
I get what Janis is thinking, but honestly, the idea that they didn’t simply die out seems more positive.
Sir Isaac over 3 years ago
This was a “laugh out loud” one for me. Happens about once a week if I’m lucky.
formathe over 3 years ago
I can’t say she’s wrong.
1504jarvis over 3 years ago
I graduated from an all boys high school. There were a lot of Neanderthals in my class.
annexed over 3 years ago
arloandjanis.com no longer works for me. It says “click here” and when I do so, nothing happens. Help!
junkforsarah77 over 3 years ago
Does anyone know where the arloandjanis.com page went?
When I use my old bookmark I get this message, “Hello! if you’re still coming here for the Arlo and Janis home page, you need to go here instead and reset your bookmark when you get there.” When I click on the “go here” link, it takes me back to the exact same page.
flagmichael over 3 years ago
I am letting all the “neanderthal-human interbreeding” go on by. The first report of Neanderthal genes in human DNA turned out to be contamination – human genes are everywhere, especially in a “dig.” The following tests took steps to stop that, but the steps were not what I would call rigorous.
At the heart is something we can’t determine from the fragments of DNA that survived in bones 50,000 or more years old: humans, among all the Great Apes, have 23 pairs of chromosomes rather than 24. Our chromosome 2 is essentially chimpanzee chromosomes 11 & 12 fused (at the head, IIRC). If we could determine the number of Neanderthal chromosomes, we could definitively say they were humans. If not, they were not.
An aside: if anybody has as much time as curiosity, trying to get a handle on “Y-Adam” and “mitochondrial Eve” is an interesting journey. Skeletal similarities aside, it is likely humans have only been around for 150,000 years. The alternative is that we became nearly extinct then, but I have biological/mathematical doubts.
alexius23 over 3 years ago
Of course, women would never interbreed….sigh
khjalmarj over 3 years ago
Question: is anyone else having trouble with www.arloandjanis.com? There is a link there that’s supposed to take you to the new page, but it only circles around to the same page. What am I missing?
eolan59 over 3 years ago
Maybe it was the women who started it
Homerville Premium Member over 3 years ago
Janis, aren’t you glad he isn’t hairy and gruff in a neanderthal way?
squireobrien over 3 years ago
I suspect it was not just men.
jonesbeltone over 3 years ago
I know a lot of half Orc’s.
paranormal over 3 years ago
The Neanderthals are all at the gym…
jarvisloop over 3 years ago
This strip reminds me of one of Dennis Hopper’s lines in “Blue Velvet.”
cryptoengineer over 3 years ago
If you get the 23andMe DNA test, one of the stats is how much Neanderthal DNA you have. I turned out to have a little under 3%, which put me in the top 1% of their customers.
DCBakerEsq over 3 years ago
After a few beers, even Neanderthal babes don’t look so bad. So I’ve heard.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] over 3 years ago
In fact the Homo sapiens men kept knocking up Neanderthal women the Neanderthal men lost out.
kathybear over 3 years ago
I’m not naming names, but one congressperson seems to act and look like a Neanderthal, too!
seismic-2 Premium Member over 3 years ago
So before the Neanderthals died out, they did some interbreeding with modern humans. And I suppose that in a couple of centuries hence, as modern humans are nearing extinction, we shall be interbreeding with the robots who will replace us. (Once you go android, you never go back.)
JP Steve Premium Member over 3 years ago
So humans share 3-4% Neanderthal DNA and 98% Chimpanzee DNA? I think somebody’s juggling the books…
vishooter over 3 years ago
It takes two to tangle, Janis.
WF11 over 3 years ago
Ah, Janis is wrong. I distinctly remember in a comic book I had (1950’s) about prehistoric animals and primitive humans where it said that the Neanderthal women were ugly so instead of keeping them as “wives”, the Cro-Magnons simply ate them along with all the others they cannibalized! It didn’t say a word about the males nailing anything that moved.
I don’t know if Janis is “blaming” the Neanderthal males or the “anatomically modern human” (current terminology I believe) males here, but whether any cross-breeding was through the Neanderthal males or the females, it seems it was a slightly successful survival strategy: the Neanderthals have become extinct but a small amount of their genetic material lives on!
unca jim over 3 years ago
…….Said the guardian of “The Egg..”
oakie817 over 3 years ago
right?
jarvisloop over 3 years ago
Interesting. No “Clan of the Cave Bear” references.
Back to Big Mike over 3 years ago
Well, the women had to choose them.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 3 years ago
Hey, a hot babe is a hot babe…
lindz.coop Premium Member over 3 years ago
There are still plenty of Neanderthals around…
Darryl Heine over 3 years ago
Tell that to Alley Oop!
tomfromthe50s 6 months ago
Some women actually prefer big, hulky men!