Finnish speaking People would disagree. You can’t forgo the use of vowels, they even use 8 different ones a [a], o [o], u [u], e [e], i [i], ä [æ], ö [ø], and y [y]. You might perhaps ignore the consonants.
Älä rääkkää kääkkää kääkänrääkkääjä! En mä kääkkää rääkkääkkään. Älä kääkätä kääkänrääkkäämisestä. (coutesy of https://telefinn.blogspot.com/2012/07/vowel-fest.html)
Another valid Scrabble word is OXYPHENBUTAZONE. Played in the proper spot on the board (i.e., along any of the four edges), it combines letter scores with various bonus squares and the “bingo” for using all seven tiles in your rack for a possible score of 1458 points (1778 if it locks into certain specific crossing words as well). It has actually been possible in the past for a player to do it in an actual game.
(Since it obviously has more than seven letters, it relies on a few internal words such as HEN, BUT and/or ONE to have already been played in appropriate spots in earlier rounds of the game.)
Wikipedia’s article on the word describes it as a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug, but spends almost as much space describing the word’s significance in Scrabble.
Who needs vowels? I went to Wales once, and I bought a booklet about a place I visited. The booklet was in both Welsh and English, and I noticed the word “hw” on the Welsh side.
As plenty of people have already observed, it’s a real word. I also verified that it’s in the Collins list of official scrabble words. But that book isn’t very informative; it lists the words without defining them. I had to go to the Internet to find what it actually means.
I did guess, though, that if it was a real word, it would be Welsh.
Coincidentally, just yesterday I had occasion to post this on a different strip:
I’d contend that y is always a vowel, because most of the time it’s pronounced like a long ē. Try it yourself: ē-ule, lan-ē-ard, poetr-ē. The exceptions are when it’s like a long ī (as in den-ī) or a short ĭ (as in acr-ĭ-lic) or when it’s just an unpronounced helper letter, as in stay.
Same deal with the w, which is typically pronounced o͞o or o͡u (o͞o-et; c-o͡u-er; whiskey, actually pronounced h-o͞o-iskey), except when it too is an unpronounced helper vowel, as in blow. This ignores the most frequently cited use of w as a vowel, in the Welsh word cwm (pronounced ko͞om, a steep-sided hollow), because I was concentrating on English usage, and all bets are off once we start introducing foreign languages.
“Vowels are A E I O U and sometimes Y and W.” Learned that 65 years ago in grammar school. Never got an example of a word using W like that until today though……
Welsh vowels: A E I O U W Y. Ah Eh Ee Oh Ee (somewhat like German umlaut U) Oo Uh Alphabet: A B C CH D DD E F FF G NG H I L LL M N O P PH R RH S T TH U W Y. For us the Celtic languages are a tad weird. Y can be pronounced Uh, Ee or Ih. Yep. Those are double consonants. F is V and FF is F.
My dad had a college football teammate named Ckrypzyck (IIRC; that’s pretty close, anyway); apparently it was quite amuzing to kisten the announcers at away games trying to pronounce it (it’s “SKRIPzik”)
My late step-father (died of Covid last year) was a master at making up words in Scrabble. Two that I can remember: Zot and Oho. The first one, Zot, is used often in BC with the anteaters but I don’t think it is an actual word.
@Richard S RussellAEIOUYW are all vowels in American English. Depending upon where they appear in any particular word, they can be different vowels or vowel sounds slid together.
E.g., ‘yes’ is ‘ee eh ss’, and ‘out’ is ‘ah (o) oo t’ and ‘well’ is ‘oo eh ll’ and ‘ate’ is ‘eh ee t’ .
At the beginning of a word, W is typically ‘oo’ slid into whatever vowel follows it, and Y is typically ‘ee’ slid into whatever vowel follows it. Knowing this may help the non-native speaker more than the old AEIOU and sometimes Y and W list of vowels.
Admittedly, I am a physicist and mathematician rather than a philologist, but my wife (whose profile this is) and I both speak more than one language, and often have discussions like this.
A lot of chatter about missing vowels, but nobody really answered the question. Can you use a Welsh word in Scrabble? At least in the American version.
Goat has a point, but you have to do it right. Don’t be the hammer that only sees nails. Or a Rat seeking redress of his own pettiness to. See the 11/19/2021 strip. (I skipped yesterday and am playing catch up).
BE THIS GUY about 3 years ago
Only if you’re playing a Cymraeg version of scrabble.
POGGERS {person} about 3 years ago
Wait really?
Renatus Profuturus Frigeridus Premium Member about 3 years ago
CRWTH could be a Polish word.
Concretionist about 3 years ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crwth
Robin Harwood about 3 years ago
What do you mean, Pig? W and ŵ are vowels.
tudza Premium Member about 3 years ago
Didn’t the Welsh sell all their vowels to the French?
Templo S.U.D. about 3 years ago
No, Pig, that’s “tk tht, stpd vwls.”
Johnny Q Premium Member about 3 years ago
And the name Gladys originated in Wales, where they spelled it Gwl-!
unfair.de about 3 years ago
Finnish speaking People would disagree. You can’t forgo the use of vowels, they even use 8 different ones a [a], o [o], u [u], e [e], i [i], ä [æ], ö [ø], and y [y]. You might perhaps ignore the consonants.
Älä rääkkää kääkkää kääkänrääkkääjä! En mä kääkkää rääkkääkkään. Älä kääkätä kääkänrääkkäämisestä. (coutesy of https://telefinn.blogspot.com/2012/07/vowel-fest.html)
ronaldspence about 3 years ago
I am consistently impressed by the use of this social platform without being polarizing…thanks Mr Pastis!
BasilBruce about 3 years ago
This strip’s new title: “Vital Social Issues ‘n’ Stuff with Rat.”
blunebottle about 3 years ago
Kids, go tell your mothers you can, too, learn things from comic strips.
blunebottle about 3 years ago
I have a granddaughter with an Irish middle name. I can’t pronounce it and I don’t remember how it is spelled.
B UTTONS about 3 years ago
What matters is — great bacon comes from a well-fed pig.
Cornelius Noodleman about 3 years ago
A. E. I o u $10.
_lounger_ about 3 years ago
that’s life saving for sure
dadoctah about 3 years ago
Another valid Scrabble word is OXYPHENBUTAZONE. Played in the proper spot on the board (i.e., along any of the four edges), it combines letter scores with various bonus squares and the “bingo” for using all seven tiles in your rack for a possible score of 1458 points (1778 if it locks into certain specific crossing words as well). It has actually been possible in the past for a player to do it in an actual game.
(Since it obviously has more than seven letters, it relies on a few internal words such as HEN, BUT and/or ONE to have already been played in appropriate spots in earlier rounds of the game.)
Wikipedia’s article on the word describes it as a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug, but spends almost as much space describing the word’s significance in Scrabble.
Gandalf about 3 years ago
‘W’ is a vowel; it’s literally a double u!
GlenGoodwin about 3 years ago
Its a song by counting crowths
Purple People Eater about 3 years ago
Who needs vowels? I went to Wales once, and I bought a booklet about a place I visited. The booklet was in both Welsh and English, and I noticed the word “hw” on the Welsh side.
AlanM about 3 years ago
I just checked. “syzygy” is a valid scrabble word and just uses “sometimes Y” as a vowel.
Allen Howell Premium Member about 3 years ago
Not valid in the US – it’s Welsh!
Kaputnik about 3 years ago
As plenty of people have already observed, it’s a real word. I also verified that it’s in the Collins list of official scrabble words. But that book isn’t very informative; it lists the words without defining them. I had to go to the Internet to find what it actually means.
I did guess, though, that if it was a real word, it would be Welsh.
Casey Jones about 3 years ago
Looks Welsh
Zebrastripes about 3 years ago
Rat and Pig are always on different pages….they’ll never get “it”!
chris_o42 about 3 years ago
Really? I’m writing that one down.
Ellis97 about 3 years ago
Some issues I would like to discuss is the system and low standards of Hollywood, especially when it comes to animated films.
Huckleberry Hiroshima about 3 years ago
Can Rat Wear Trousers Here?
Snolep about 3 years ago
Then there’s Musk’s kid X ae x=12 or some such.
e.groves about 3 years ago
Rhythm. Another word without any vowels.
kartis about 3 years ago
There are truths, and then there are are trths.
Richard S Russell Premium Member about 3 years ago
Coincidentally, just yesterday I had occasion to post this on a different strip:
I’d contend that y is always a vowel, because most of the time it’s pronounced like a long ē. Try it yourself: ē-ule, lan-ē-ard, poetr-ē. The exceptions are when it’s like a long ī (as in den-ī) or a short ĭ (as in acr-ĭ-lic) or when it’s just an unpronounced helper letter, as in stay.
Same deal with the w, which is typically pronounced o͞o or o͡u (o͞o-et; c-o͡u-er; whiskey, actually pronounced h-o͞o-iskey), except when it too is an unpronounced helper vowel, as in blow. This ignores the most frequently cited use of w as a vowel, in the Welsh word cwm (pronounced ko͞om, a steep-sided hollow), because I was concentrating on English usage, and all bets are off once we start introducing foreign languages.
Steverino Premium Member about 3 years ago
This strip makes me want to have a vowel movement.
Spence12 Premium Member about 3 years ago
My Scrabble software says yes. Now, if I can only remember it when I need it.
Tallguy about 3 years ago
Looks Welsh.
uniquename about 3 years ago
♪♫ “…and sometimes Y and W.” ♫♪
Comicfan (I can't think of a better name) about 3 years ago
The only Welsh words i know is the words in Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau which is the anthem of the country
raybarb44 about 3 years ago
“Vowels are A E I O U and sometimes Y and W.” Learned that 65 years ago in grammar school. Never got an example of a word using W like that until today though……
Bramosenos Premium Member about 3 years ago
Welsh vowels: A E I O U W Y. Ah Eh Ee Oh Ee (somewhat like German umlaut U) Oo Uh Alphabet: A B C CH D DD E F FF G NG H I L LL M N O P PH R RH S T TH U W Y. For us the Celtic languages are a tad weird. Y can be pronounced Uh, Ee or Ih. Yep. Those are double consonants. F is V and FF is F.
PoodleGroomer about 3 years ago
There are language-specific Scrabble letter sets with extra consonants and accented vowels needed to spell words in their language.
198.23.5.11 about 3 years ago
So is “antidisenstablishmentarianism”.
But I’m not holding my breath waiting for that one either.
Cozmik Cowboy about 3 years ago
My dad had a college football teammate named Ckrypzyck (IIRC; that’s pretty close, anyway); apparently it was quite amuzing to kisten the announcers at away games trying to pronounce it (it’s “SKRIPzik”)
WCraft Premium Member about 3 years ago
My late step-father (died of Covid last year) was a master at making up words in Scrabble. Two that I can remember: Zot and Oho. The first one, Zot, is used often in BC with the anteaters but I don’t think it is an actual word.
codedaddy about 3 years ago
“crwth” was a valid word long before Scrabble existed.
amaneaux about 3 years ago
“Cwm” is also a valid Scrabble word. (It’s a steep-walled valley formed by the action of glaciers, also known as a cirque.)
stringer831 about 3 years ago
Rat must have grown up in Bala Cynwyd.
Lana M. about 3 years ago
Croc Power!!!!
jtrevor99 about 3 years ago
Per Google Trends, no significant change in looking up “Crwth”. Yet. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=crwth%20definition
Brian Fink about 3 years ago
Covefe!
Linguist about 3 years ago
Fel y byddai’r Cymry yn dweud, perlau yw hwn cyn y moch …
Goat from PBS about 3 years ago
If Rat continues to give valid Scrabble words, I’ll start listening a lot more.
zeexenon about 3 years ago
Past participle of crawl.
Lana M. about 3 years ago
@Richard S RussellAEIOUYW are all vowels in American English. Depending upon where they appear in any particular word, they can be different vowels or vowel sounds slid together.
E.g., ‘yes’ is ‘ee eh ss’, and ‘out’ is ‘ah (o) oo t’ and ‘well’ is ‘oo eh ll’ and ‘ate’ is ‘eh ee t’ .
At the beginning of a word, W is typically ‘oo’ slid into whatever vowel follows it, and Y is typically ‘ee’ slid into whatever vowel follows it. Knowing this may help the non-native speaker more than the old AEIOU and sometimes Y and W list of vowels.
Admittedly, I am a physicist and mathematician rather than a philologist, but my wife (whose profile this is) and I both speak more than one language, and often have discussions like this.
Rocky Premium Member about 3 years ago
Once again my horizons are broadened and my vocabulary expanded by Pearls Before Swine!Thank you, Rat!
stamps about 3 years ago
And the CRWTH shall set you free.
Sephten about 3 years ago
I played a crwth once, very badly; I’ll stick to the guitar! (I’m rubbish on the five-string banjo too, but I don’t think there’s a connection.)
knight1192a about 3 years ago
It is? Must be a Welshman who put it in the Scrabble dictionary.
Bilan about 3 years ago
A lot of chatter about missing vowels, but nobody really answered the question. Can you use a Welsh word in Scrabble? At least in the American version.
Natarose about 3 years ago
I would take any information gained from this comic with a grain of salt.
qmwnebrvt about 3 years ago
QUONE
Sailor46 USN 65-95 about 3 years ago
Cwm and crwth are both English words, so says the internet, and we all know it’s never wrong.
Pgalden1 Premium Member about 3 years ago
It IS! Yep, had to look it up.
Sisyphos about 3 years ago
I have never liked working the Crowd Scene. And now I think I know why! Imprecations upon thee, Cartoon-Boy!
AndrewSharpe about 3 years ago
Also, CWM. Don’t believe me? Look it up.
Otis Rufus Driftwood about 3 years ago
Goat has a point, but you have to do it right. Don’t be the hammer that only sees nails. Or a Rat seeking redress of his own pettiness to. See the 11/19/2021 strip. (I skipped yesterday and am playing catch up).
Comicfan (I can't think of a better name) about 3 years ago
What’s wrong with vowels
D.Deene almost 3 years ago
it’s not shiny enough already??