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All i ever got was āwe were worried because you were later than expectedā talk. No other consequences, Didnāt even get restricted from going out on a school night after getting home at 5 am the same morning. I guess being the youngest child has its perks.
Elly telling John how much Saint Michael will be allowed to drive Johnās own carā¦. Hereās a tipā¦ Once you start negotiating about things that are yours, then youāve already lost.
My husband was an abused child. When our girls were really young, he sometimes struggled between being a āstoneā or āmarshmallowā. How hard was too hard, and how soft was too soft? I must say that he did an incredible job at it tho.
Mike is the expression of a normal teenage boy and their love of cars. He just had to try the freeway with the sports car. John should just not let him use the sports car again until he is older and wiser.
Canāt imagine why āJohnā is making such a ābig dealā out of thisāMichael is home and āJohnās ā car is in one piece. Sure he made a mistake but that happens ! ! ! !
My dad would send me to pick up a case of beer on the weekends when I turned 18. Funny thing was, I was never carded before I turned 18! I believe the first time was on my 45th birthday, bless that clerk :)
My mom was more the hothead than my dad. So my dad would insist my mom wait until the next day to impose punishments. Take some time to cool off. She would want to sentence me for months right after something occurred. But the next morning, it would be for weeks instead.
He canāt drive for two weeks, and then canāt use YOUR car for six months? If I were Elly, Iād be offended by that. If heād put it as āhe canāt use the FAST carā or āhe canāt use the FLASHY carā, thatād make some sense. Make him drive the dorky car, not the one that tempts him to show off. But āMY carā shows heās more worried about his metal baby than he is about teaching Michael a lesson.
Maybe John needs to grow up a bit. If having a sports car is such a liability he should just get a boring small car to take to work. No one will fight to use it or cruise around in it. He isnāt 21 anymore. And judging by his attitude he was never young or fun and his sports car doesnāt make him fun in middle age either. My dad would never have carried on like I cracked up his car just because I got lost.
āYou canāt be a pushover!ā¦ You canāt be a hardass!! ā¦ You canāt always be sunshine and rainbows!ā¦ You canāt always be gloomy and dark! ā¦. Stop being so generous!ā¦ Stop being so selfish!ā¦ He needs discipline!ā¦ He needs his freedom!ā¦ Class B misdemeanor, 30 days in the brig!ā¦ Class C misdemeanor, 15 days restricted duty! ā¦ Itās Care-ah-BEE-an! ā¦ No, itās Cah-RIB-be-an! ā¦. Itās CAR-mel! ā¦ No, itās CARE-ah-mel! ā¦. (so whoās on first??ā)
Well, thinking back Iām glad that our kids never got into such scrapes, and we, as parents, never had to get into such a ādebateā about punishment.
Over all, though, I do think that John is overreacting, seeing as we know how Mike realized that he made a BIG mistake, and he already paid for it in being scared out of his wits a few strips ago.
Oh, and by the way, in real time, this is only about three hours later, counting the leaving home time, dropping off time, driving time, getting home time, and he got home before Elizabeth (and her practice time might have been two hours, since sheās in a show troupe of synchronized skating, so it would be a longer practice than regulation lessons)ā¦ probably the big argument time is longer than Mikeās misbehaviorā¦
Were Johnās parents still alive? If they were, Ellie should have called them for some of His sixteen year old hijinks, that might lighten the Wrath of the " never did anything wrong one"
If that was the punishment for getting lost, I wouldnāt ever want to take the car again. Dadās just mad because he had the āmidlife-crisisā car.
GeorgeInAZ about 3 years ago
What he needs to learn is where the freeway exits are. Canāt do that when grounded.
Macushlalondra about 3 years ago
Compromise. No driving for 10 days and no access to his car for 2 months.
angelolady Premium Member about 3 years ago
Letās get this over with already. Go ahead and give in, John, and letās switch arcs.
MichaelAxelFleming about 3 years ago
I am reminded of Steve Martinās solution to world overpopulation: death penalty for parking violations.
Baarorso about 3 years ago
Mike got lost guys. He couldnāt help it! Get over it!
RickTengle about 3 years ago
John should have just bought him a used Pinto or Yugo
Lyrak about 3 years ago
At least Johnās back is no longer hurting.
flagmichael Premium Member about 3 years ago
How about they unhook from the argument and consider the actual effects of what they are proposing to do?
Susan00100 about 3 years ago
Marriages have broken up over less than this.
Susan00100 about 3 years ago
Michael, get a part-time job (after school and weekends), save up your money, and buy your own damned car!!
M2MM about 3 years ago
My folks would have knocked the stuffing out of me and let it go at that.
theincrediblebulk about 3 years ago
All i ever got was āwe were worried because you were later than expectedā talk. No other consequences, Didnāt even get restricted from going out on a school night after getting home at 5 am the same morning. I guess being the youngest child has its perks.
Johnnyrico about 3 years ago
Elly telling John how much Saint Michael will be allowed to drive Johnās own carā¦. Hereās a tipā¦ Once you start negotiating about things that are yours, then youāve already lost.
JCB about 3 years ago
Two weeks is getting off easy. Iād have given him a month.
Wren Fahel about 3 years ago
My husband was an abused child. When our girls were really young, he sometimes struggled between being a āstoneā or āmarshmallowā. How hard was too hard, and how soft was too soft? I must say that he did an incredible job at it tho.
Yardley701 about 3 years ago
Mike is the expression of a normal teenage boy and their love of cars. He just had to try the freeway with the sports car. John should just not let him use the sports car again until he is older and wiser.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member about 3 years ago
Ha!! Okay, that thereās funny, I donāt care who you are.
'IndyMan' about 3 years ago
Canāt imagine why āJohnā is making such a ābig dealā out of thisāMichael is home and āJohnās ā car is in one piece. Sure he made a mistake but that happens ! ! ! !
Johnnyrico about 3 years ago
No driving for a week and permanently banned from the sport coupe.
bittenbyknittin about 3 years ago
If you take away his driving privileges, youāll have to drive him everywhere. And he wonāt be able to run errands.
PammWhittaker about 3 years ago
My dad would send me to pick up a case of beer on the weekends when I turned 18. Funny thing was, I was never carded before I turned 18! I believe the first time was on my 45th birthday, bless that clerk :)
StackableContainers about 3 years ago
My mom was more the hothead than my dad. So my dad would insist my mom wait until the next day to impose punishments. Take some time to cool off. She would want to sentence me for months right after something occurred. But the next morning, it would be for weeks instead.
calliarcale about 3 years ago
He canāt drive for two weeks, and then canāt use YOUR car for six months? If I were Elly, Iād be offended by that. If heād put it as āhe canāt use the FAST carā or āhe canāt use the FLASHY carā, thatād make some sense. Make him drive the dorky car, not the one that tempts him to show off. But āMY carā shows heās more worried about his metal baby than he is about teaching Michael a lesson.
this is summerdog about 3 years ago
I would make it: he loses the use of the sports car until heās 18. Thatās it.
preacherman Premium Member about 3 years ago
Mike is still between a rock and a hard place. Ellyās 1/3 option is still going to be hard to endure for an older teen.
nmb41 about 3 years ago
Maybe John needs to grow up a bit. If having a sports car is such a liability he should just get a boring small car to take to work. No one will fight to use it or cruise around in it. He isnāt 21 anymore. And judging by his attitude he was never young or fun and his sports car doesnāt make him fun in middle age either. My dad would never have carried on like I cracked up his car just because I got lost.
Lynnjav about 3 years ago
Neither parent has bothered to listen to Mike, and thatās a parenting failure.
Jogger2 about 3 years ago
Off topic, but this reminds me of a Faith Petric song, about the importance of being kind. Itās called āThe Rock and the Egg.ā
mindjob about 3 years ago
My parents never let me drive their car, I had to buy my own. Mainly they didnāt want to pay for insurance on me
Quentin1992 about 3 years ago
I think 2 weeks on driving and 4 months on access to Dads car.
rebelstrike0 about 3 years ago
United fronts can fail, as evidenced by the Axis. A concerted effort by the japs, the krauts, and the dagos failed to stop the Allies.
Templo S.U.D. about 3 years ago
thatās parenting alrightā¦ tough decisions
Major325 about 3 years ago
Did anyone notice how quickly John got better?
Johnnyrico about 3 years ago
āYou canāt be a pushover!ā¦ You canāt be a hardass!! ā¦ You canāt always be sunshine and rainbows!ā¦ You canāt always be gloomy and dark! ā¦. Stop being so generous!ā¦ Stop being so selfish!ā¦ He needs discipline!ā¦ He needs his freedom!ā¦ Class B misdemeanor, 30 days in the brig!ā¦ Class C misdemeanor, 15 days restricted duty! ā¦ Itās Care-ah-BEE-an! ā¦ No, itās Cah-RIB-be-an! ā¦. Itās CAR-mel! ā¦ No, itās CARE-ah-mel! ā¦. (so whoās on first??ā)
1JennyJenkins about 3 years ago
Well, thinking back Iām glad that our kids never got into such scrapes, and we, as parents, never had to get into such a ādebateā about punishment.
Over all, though, I do think that John is overreacting, seeing as we know how Mike realized that he made a BIG mistake, and he already paid for it in being scared out of his wits a few strips ago.
Oh, and by the way, in real time, this is only about three hours later, counting the leaving home time, dropping off time, driving time, getting home time, and he got home before Elizabeth (and her practice time might have been two hours, since sheās in a show troupe of synchronized skating, so it would be a longer practice than regulation lessons)ā¦ probably the big argument time is longer than Mikeās misbehaviorā¦
mikeywilly about 3 years ago
Were Johnās parents still alive? If they were, Ellie should have called them for some of His sixteen year old hijinks, that might lighten the Wrath of the " never did anything wrong one"
MuddyUSA Premium Member about 3 years ago
Dad is the rock and Mom is the soft placeā¦as it should be!
The Pro from Dover about 3 years ago
Send Lawyers Guns and Money
Iām A desperate man
cmxx about 3 years ago
Has Michael ever demonstrated to his parents that he was mature enough to be trusted with somebody elseās sports car?
lindz.coop Premium Member about 3 years ago
If that was the punishment for getting lost, I wouldnāt ever want to take the car again. Dadās just mad because he had the āmidlife-crisisā car.