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Obviously, Gunther is assuming that a certain activity has taken place; he has no info about Tiffany falling down the stairs in her mansion and Ox and Les rescuing herâŠ
OK, one of my missing bits of background has been answered, as apparently Gunther does room with Les â though it still doesnât explain the panel a couple of days ago that seemed to depict the dwelling as too small for that. Nonetheless, it seems to me that Tiff has some âsplaininâ to do about why she asked to recuperate there.
Les is exhibiting a remarkably restrained response to the situation and a very vulnerable Tiffany. Especially in light of how he has reacted to Tiff and other females in the past.
Assuming Tiff is there by her own choice, why should Gunther care what happens between her and Les? Heâs acting like a protective big brother â except heâs not her brother.
Les is right â Gunther is weird. I think Gunther is still a bit nuts â probably a result of too much Mommy in the earlier years and the childhood morals were easier to handle. In recent years, it seems like Guntherâs moral outbursts have been a cover for deeper insecurity and jealousy. Gunther and Les have both competed for Tiffanyâs favor in the past, I think deep down, Gunther may be more worried about Les winning than Tiffany losing.
Oh Gunther⊠always ready to think the worst if the situation involves Les⊠thatâs not good! In the end, Les is surprisingly taking everything with maturity and appears to be respectful of Tiffanyâs privacy. But this situation canât continue, Tiffany has to find a place for her or face her fears of being alone or to deal with her annoying roommates. Staying in a spare room at Al and Irmaâs house is also no a solution, but it would be better than taking the room from Les.
Many readers in here donât appear to know that Gunther has no idea what happened to Tiffany. He arrives home and finds Les in the living room and he shushes him and tells him Tiffany is in his room sleeping. Yea at that age itâs naturally assumed they did the deed as is the standard when the opposite sex is in a bedroom. Sex consumes the lives of most teens and young adults. Gunther assumes and is upset thinking Tiffany is taken advantage of. For me, that says he doesnât know Tiffany that well. She is not that type who gives up to the guys. She flirts but does not cross that line. Plus having a nearly real potential of becoming step siblings at one point, Les and Tiffâs relationship since has not been anything romantic. They shared the same goal â getting rid of Ann Eiffel, or rather, rescue Tom Farrell from Ann, for those who missed the whole arc, who is Lesâs mother. So they went to hell and back together. Theyâre just friends.
Ugh. Does this suggest to anyone else that MOST of next week will be panel upon panel of âGrumpy Gunthâ irately arguing with purposefully âAmbiguous Lesâ about Tiffany being in Lesâ bed? I could see this aspect of the story being dragged out for âyuksâ all week long, much to my dismay.
I am not really fond of this personality archetype Greg foists upon Gunther far too often. Sadly to sayâŠ. even the âwhipping boyâ personality archetype he gets to portray in his relationship with Bets is more interesting that the âGrumpy Gunthâ oneâŠ.. and that is saying something because I do not like the abused âwhipping boyâ persona either.
It has gotten to a point for me, that when Gunther shows upâŠ. it is disappointing to me⊠because it inevitably ends up being some sort of arc where he is portrayed in an ever more negative light.
To me, after he returned from Peru, and he grew his peach-fuzz âbeardââŠ. his arc was initially on a trajectory that felt fun and had him grow as a character. But Greg rather quickly backtracked from that to what we have now. In my mind, I would like to see Gunther (symbolically at least, if not in reality) grow his FULL beard and mustacheâŠ. and have it be a symbol at least on the OUTSIDE that he is striving to move beyond the âgrump/whipping boyâ nonsense that is all he is at the moment. In other wordsâŠ. give him an arc where he ACTS on his own goalsâŠ. instead of just REACTING negatively to what is foisted upon him by others.
There is no way Les could have made that filthy pit presentable in such a short amount of time. He certainly didnât take down the pinups he has all over the wall. But maybe Tiffany is too zonked out on pain meds to notice. Of course that just means sheâll wake up screaming.
And so, it begins. Starting with Gunther reflecting all the somewhat justified suspicion on Lesâs motives, in the prurient area, while Les himself has only good motives toward Tiffany, thus demonstrating the benign influence of Luannverse. I wonder if, following misdirection play strategy, Bets will not be jealous, will understand, and help, including calling her boyfriend down.
Dang! I wanted to see what the room looked like after Les tidied up. My childrenâs rooms always looked the same after! Strange that Gunther would jump to a conclusion like that about Tiffany. The up side is he got groceries, so after he gets over his hissy fit he can make her some food.
Les was the weird all week long but now heâs the one making sense. I would like to think that he thinks of Tiff as a sister despite that her dad never married Ann; hereâs to hoping heâs not doing all this to entice Tiff into a relationship but to establish brotherly behavior. His remark suggests this but we will see.
Amazing how many commenters make up bad things about Les. What actually happened today in the strip IS: Les cleaned his room up and let Tiffany sleep in there alone and Les is trying to keep the house quiet so she can rest. That is all Les did today. He talks big sometimes and tries to look important, but he is Tiffanyâs friend.
Poor Tiff needs to be rescued. Not just from Les, but from Greg who has treated her like dirt in a landslide âlike forever.â How blatant can you get? From mansion to filthy pig sty?
Gunther? Calm down. Calm down and ask Les _if_heâs told Al and Irma about this little âliving arrangementâ with Tiffany staying at the Gulag.
(A large cup of Starbucks Mocha Cookie Crumble Frappuccino says he HASNâT.)
But hey, no worries.
Since Tiffany is quietly sleeping and you guys donât want to disturb her, tell Les that NOW would be a really, really GOOD time to tell Al and Irma. You know. So they donât get âshocked and surprisedâ when they find out that Tiffany has taken up residence in the Gulag WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE.
No, donât you tell them. I just want to see Lesâ squirm out a response. Instead, use that little âsecretâ as future leverage against your âroommate.â After all Les respects and appreciates blackmail since he so effectively used it against his own mother a while back.
Now.
Fix Tiffany a nice scrumptious dinner, for when she wakes up. Sheâll truly appreciate that.
And later, be sure that the bathroom is prepared for Tiffâs immediate use. Especially make sure the door lock works.
Sheâll very much WANT to wash off all the bedbugs and cooties she now acquiring while blissfully sleeping in Lesâ room.
And save your âangerâ for next week when you find out that Les will be a-sleeping in YOUR room during Tiffâs âconvalescence.â
Gunther needs a o chill out and stop jumping to conclusions. I get it that he cares about his friend, Tiffany, however, but he needs to get the facts first.
Most of the posters here donât realize that Gunther has no personal knowledge of Tiffany falling down the stairs in her mansion (after moving from the dorm and then finding a broken window, that scared her into stumbling down the steps after calling Ox for help). Gunther knows none of this, or that after the police came and asked Tiffany if she had a safe place to stay, she said she wanted to go home with Les. Since she and Les were almost step sister and brother, I doubt that she feels any attraction for him (even though he may still feel that for her). But Gunther doesnât know all that, so he assumes that Les and Tiffany slept together. You know what they say about âassumeââŠ
lvlax over 2 years ago
Wait.. why is Gunther so upset?? He has Bets. What Tiff and Les do shouldnât concern him.. should it?
They should probably buy a couch. Sleeping on a bean bag chair wonât be very comfortable.
Wouldnât Gunther have seen Tiffâs Porsche outside, and guessed she was visiting??
beb01 over 2 years ago
Why shouldnât he assume the worst of Leslie, he remembers when Leslie was the worst. A horndog, a menace to any and all females.
Actually Iâm surprised that Leslie was able to clean up his room enough for Tiffany to enter without gagging.
So next week Leslie generosity and Tiffanyâs virtue will be debated at 98 decibels.
Templo S.U.D. over 2 years ago
Does Gunther want an explanation or not? Weâll find out next week.
Namrepus over 2 years ago
âYou have the wrong idea. You see, she has a sprained wrist and Iââ âWhat?!!â
AnyFace over 2 years ago
GirlGeek Premium Member over 2 years ago
Iâm with Gunther
Tyge over 2 years ago
âI Think This Is The Beginning Of A Beautiful Friendship.â â Rick Blane
NiteKat over 2 years ago
Iâm surprised Les was able to clean up that garbage dump of a room in just two hours. Mustâve used gallons of Febreze to get rid of the smell.
Argythree over 2 years ago
Obviously, Gunther is assuming that a certain activity has taken place; he has no info about Tiffany falling down the stairs in her mansion and Ox and Les rescuing herâŠ
Caldonia over 2 years ago
Angry Gunther is just the worst, geez.
HARLAND DORRINSON over 2 years ago
ProclaimLiberty over 2 years ago
OK, one of my missing bits of background has been answered, as apparently Gunther does room with Les â though it still doesnât explain the panel a couple of days ago that seemed to depict the dwelling as too small for that. Nonetheless, it seems to me that Tiff has some âsplaininâ to do about why she asked to recuperate there.
Uncle Kenny over 2 years ago
Something tells me that on Monday, the focus will be on different characters.
reedkomicks Premium Member over 2 years ago
Iâm home ? He walks into the house, is standing a couple feet away, and yells Iâm home!? What a dolt
Tyge over 2 years ago
Les is exhibiting a remarkably restrained response to the situation and a very vulnerable Tiffany. Especially in light of how he has reacted to Tiff and other females in the past.
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Joe1962 over 2 years ago
Why is Gunther mad at Les when Tiff ask him to take back to their place.
ericbrower over 2 years ago
Les really needs to work on his communication skills.
BabyBlue over 2 years ago
Assuming Tiff is there by her own choice, why should Gunther care what happens between her and Les? Heâs acting like a protective big brother â except heâs not her brother.
kenhense over 2 years ago
Les is right â Gunther is weird. I think Gunther is still a bit nuts â probably a result of too much Mommy in the earlier years and the childhood morals were easier to handle. In recent years, it seems like Guntherâs moral outbursts have been a cover for deeper insecurity and jealousy. Gunther and Les have both competed for Tiffanyâs favor in the past, I think deep down, Gunther may be more worried about Les winning than Tiffany losing.
Aladar30 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Oh Gunther⊠always ready to think the worst if the situation involves Les⊠thatâs not good! In the end, Les is surprisingly taking everything with maturity and appears to be respectful of Tiffanyâs privacy. But this situation canât continue, Tiffany has to find a place for her or face her fears of being alone or to deal with her annoying roommates. Staying in a spare room at Al and Irmaâs house is also no a solution, but it would be better than taking the room from Les.
Brdshtt Premium Member over 2 years ago
âHoney, Iâm home! âŠWhat thâ !?!?!?â
Rhetorical_Question over 2 years ago
Leslie Knox, your rep isâŠâŠâŠ
capricorn9th over 2 years ago
Many readers in here donât appear to know that Gunther has no idea what happened to Tiffany. He arrives home and finds Les in the living room and he shushes him and tells him Tiffany is in his room sleeping. Yea at that age itâs naturally assumed they did the deed as is the standard when the opposite sex is in a bedroom. Sex consumes the lives of most teens and young adults. Gunther assumes and is upset thinking Tiffany is taken advantage of. For me, that says he doesnât know Tiffany that well. She is not that type who gives up to the guys. She flirts but does not cross that line. Plus having a nearly real potential of becoming step siblings at one point, Les and Tiffâs relationship since has not been anything romantic. They shared the same goal â getting rid of Ann Eiffel, or rather, rescue Tom Farrell from Ann, for those who missed the whole arc, who is Lesâs mother. So they went to hell and back together. Theyâre just friends.
Johnnyrico over 2 years ago
Les is a real opportunist, just like his mother.
Chopped Fowl over 2 years ago
âYou wonât like me when Iâm angryâ âŠ
Nice haircut in panel #3, Gunther âŠ.really, looks good âŠ.
RSH over 2 years ago
I think Gunther misunderstands.
Susan00100 over 2 years ago
Did Les actually clean up his room for Tiff??
Susan00100 over 2 years ago
Peace and serenity?? Just wait until Bets finds out that Tiff is staying at the Gulag!!
Itâll be more chaotic than the dorm!!
sfknight over 2 years ago
Gunther is thinking exactly what Les wants him to think.
OneTime59 over 2 years ago
Man, didnât take long for Gunther to go off.
locake over 2 years ago
Gunther is filled with Rage and Anger. What a surprise. /s
Tiffany did not have sex with Les, but even if she did, so what? She is an adult and it is none of Guntherâs business. Why is he so angry?
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 2 years ago
Ugh. Does this suggest to anyone else that MOST of next week will be panel upon panel of âGrumpy Gunthâ irately arguing with purposefully âAmbiguous Lesâ about Tiffany being in Lesâ bed? I could see this aspect of the story being dragged out for âyuksâ all week long, much to my dismay.
I am not really fond of this personality archetype Greg foists upon Gunther far too often. Sadly to sayâŠ. even the âwhipping boyâ personality archetype he gets to portray in his relationship with Bets is more interesting that the âGrumpy Gunthâ oneâŠ.. and that is saying something because I do not like the abused âwhipping boyâ persona either.
It has gotten to a point for me, that when Gunther shows upâŠ. it is disappointing to me⊠because it inevitably ends up being some sort of arc where he is portrayed in an ever more negative light.
To me, after he returned from Peru, and he grew his peach-fuzz âbeardââŠ. his arc was initially on a trajectory that felt fun and had him grow as a character. But Greg rather quickly backtracked from that to what we have now. In my mind, I would like to see Gunther (symbolically at least, if not in reality) grow his FULL beard and mustacheâŠ. and have it be a symbol at least on the OUTSIDE that he is striving to move beyond the âgrump/whipping boyâ nonsense that is all he is at the moment. In other wordsâŠ. give him an arc where he ACTS on his own goalsâŠ. instead of just REACTING negatively to what is foisted upon him by others.
leighabc123 over 2 years ago
Les is right. Gunther is weird!
sueb1863 over 2 years ago
There is no way Les could have made that filthy pit presentable in such a short amount of time. He certainly didnât take down the pinups he has all over the wall. But maybe Tiffany is too zonked out on pain meds to notice. Of course that just means sheâll wake up screaming.
Kim Roberts over 2 years ago
I liked post-Rosa Gunther with the 5 oâclock shadow.
Ellis97 over 2 years ago
Les is just being a polite host, Gunther. There is no need to be so angry and upset.
Chris over 2 years ago
and poor Gunther hasnât been informed yet, great. Maybe heâll calm down some once he seeâs her in the condition sheâs in.
luann1212 over 2 years ago
And so, it begins. Starting with Gunther reflecting all the somewhat justified suspicion on Lesâs motives, in the prurient area, while Les himself has only good motives toward Tiffany, thus demonstrating the benign influence of Luannverse. I wonder if, following misdirection play strategy, Bets will not be jealous, will understand, and help, including calling her boyfriend down.
comic reader 22 over 2 years ago
Dang! I wanted to see what the room looked like after Les tidied up. My childrenâs rooms always looked the same after! Strange that Gunther would jump to a conclusion like that about Tiffany. The up side is he got groceries, so after he gets over his hissy fit he can make her some food.
WilliamVollmer over 2 years ago
Gunther jumping to conclusions. But, unless he has little faith in Tiffanyâs judgement, why would he jump to that conclusion?
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 2 years ago
Gunther is upset because of what he thinks might have happenedâŠit did not!
runtennismath over 2 years ago
Whoâs the guy with the curly hair? I think heâs a friend of that girlâŠ. umâŠ. oh, Luann!
RSH over 2 years ago
Les was the weird all week long but now heâs the one making sense. I would like to think that he thinks of Tiff as a sister despite that her dad never married Ann; hereâs to hoping heâs not doing all this to entice Tiff into a relationship but to establish brotherly behavior. His remark suggests this but we will see.
Judy Hendrickson [Unnamed Reader - 852856] over 2 years ago
What is sooo special about this girl other than the fact that she had an accident
snowedin, now known as Missy's mom over 2 years ago
I think that Gunther is worried about Tiffany, thinking that Les is using her.
locake over 2 years ago
Amazing how many commenters make up bad things about Les. What actually happened today in the strip IS: Les cleaned his room up and let Tiffany sleep in there alone and Les is trying to keep the house quiet so she can rest. That is all Les did today. He talks big sometimes and tries to look important, but he is Tiffanyâs friend.
Airman over 2 years ago
Poor Tiff needs to be rescued. Not just from Les, but from Greg who has treated her like dirt in a landslide âlike forever.â How blatant can you get? From mansion to filthy pig sty?
alexius23 over 2 years ago
Well, remember that Gunther can not have Betts sleep over
Mordock999 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Okay, Okay.
Gunther? Calm down. Calm down and ask Les _if_heâs told Al and Irma about this little âliving arrangementâ with Tiffany staying at the Gulag.
(A large cup of Starbucks Mocha Cookie Crumble Frappuccino says he HASNâT.)
But hey, no worries.
Since Tiffany is quietly sleeping and you guys donât want to disturb her, tell Les that NOW would be a really, really GOOD time to tell Al and Irma. You know. So they donât get âshocked and surprisedâ when they find out that Tiffany has taken up residence in the Gulag WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE.
No, donât you tell them. I just want to see Lesâ squirm out a response. Instead, use that little âsecretâ as future leverage against your âroommate.â After all Les respects and appreciates blackmail since he so effectively used it against his own mother a while back.
Now.
Fix Tiffany a nice scrumptious dinner, for when she wakes up. Sheâll truly appreciate that.
And later, be sure that the bathroom is prepared for Tiffâs immediate use. Especially make sure the door lock works.
Sheâll very much WANT to wash off all the bedbugs and cooties she now acquiring while blissfully sleeping in Lesâ room.
And save your âangerâ for next week when you find out that Les will be a-sleeping in YOUR room during Tiffâs âconvalescence.â
CoreyTaylor1 over 2 years ago
And as soon as Bets arrives and sees this, the dorm-room crap will start all over again!
eced52 over 2 years ago
Think he was referring to Lasâs den of iniquity
Otis Rufus Driftwood over 2 years ago
Says the guy with a woman convalescing in their house without telling his roommate.
BlitzMcD over 2 years ago
âIf I canât have her, neither can anyone elseâ. A source of high blood pressure for our times, Gunth.
Wishingonastar over 2 years ago
Mind out of the gutter, Gunth.
momcom over 2 years ago
Canât say I wouldnât have played that up just to hear Gunth yell. Point, Les.
j.l.farmer over 2 years ago
Maybe Les should explain under what circumstances Tiffany is visiting INSTEAD of having Gunther think it was a hook-up.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen over 2 years ago
Misunderstandings are to be expected.
Sisyphos over 2 years ago
Punch Leslie out and then toss him out, Gunther! Nothing is too good for Mr. ob-Knox-iousâŠ.
eladee AKA Wally over 2 years ago
Gunther needs a o chill out and stop jumping to conclusions. I get it that he cares about his friend, Tiffany, however, but he needs to get the facts first.
Argythree over 2 years ago
Most of the posters here donât realize that Gunther has no personal knowledge of Tiffany falling down the stairs in her mansion (after moving from the dorm and then finding a broken window, that scared her into stumbling down the steps after calling Ox for help). Gunther knows none of this, or that after the police came and asked Tiffany if she had a safe place to stay, she said she wanted to go home with Les. Since she and Les were almost step sister and brother, I doubt that she feels any attraction for him (even though he may still feel that for her). But Gunther doesnât know all that, so he assumes that Les and Tiffany slept together. You know what they say about âassumeââŠ
Dragoncat over 2 years ago
Well, when you consider what the room looked like beforeâŠ
Rich_Pa over 2 years ago
Gunther has always been a jerk.