I recall reading that some ancient civilization would publically weigh their representatives each year, and if they increased their weight (past some set point), it was the thinking of the time that they were benefiting far too well from their job, and were fired, or stoned, or something . . .
I suggest a current way to emulate that would be to monitor the net worth of representatives, and fire them if the increase was too much . . .
A detail that, in my experience, all too many progressives and social activists refuse to recognize (often knowingly): When something is unequable, it means it favors some people or groups. And those people or groups are not going to give up that advantage without resistance. Sweet reason and appeals to “morality,” “rightness,” and “fairness” isn’t going to make it.
The message is don’t expect people to “do the right thing” simply because it is so obviously the “right thing.” You have to show them that it is in their immediate – not just long term – interest to do so. A hard thing to accomplish, and sometimes an impossible one.
No standoff and no change as long as people vote straight party line and only vote for incumbents in primaries and never look at what their politicians are doing.
Change what to what? I’m not being facetious. I would like to know at least one solid thing that would actually change if “whoever” gets elected. They say they’ll “fight” for this or “push” for that, but all that fighting and pushing never seems to actually change what they promised.
“Standoff” is really the wrong word. The battle is over. The people who own the lobbyists (and the politians) won a very long time ago. If voting made any difference, it would be illegal.
The comfort level of the guy who “loves the status quo” is the trust that all the protesters DON’T really vote. My state stimulated 7% of the registered voters in the spring primary. You know? That time we select the November finalists?
Then 40% decided to stay home in November. Many because they didn’t like the choices. Yeah, love the status quo!
In the American political system, the guy with the deepest pockets and the largest bevy of lobbyists and lawyers usually gets what he wants, while the average American citizen is lucky to get noticed on his best of days.
The sign Wealth holds maybe should say: There is no such thing as “Too Much” when it comes to how much money I believe I am entitled to, so go somewhere and blow yourselves, takers.
braindead Premium Member about 2 years ago
I not only have lobbyists, I have legislators!
Walter Kocker about 2 years ago
I recall reading that some ancient civilization would publically weigh their representatives each year, and if they increased their weight (past some set point), it was the thinking of the time that they were benefiting far too well from their job, and were fired, or stoned, or something . . .
I suggest a current way to emulate that would be to monitor the net worth of representatives, and fire them if the increase was too much . . .
Try getting THAT through a Republican House!!!
;-)
some idiot from R'lyeh Premium Member about 2 years ago
The good thing about living in a country with compulsory voting is that everybody votes. You win in the middle.
Alabama Al about 2 years ago
A detail that, in my experience, all too many progressives and social activists refuse to recognize (often knowingly): When something is unequable, it means it favors some people or groups. And those people or groups are not going to give up that advantage without resistance. Sweet reason and appeals to “morality,” “rightness,” and “fairness” isn’t going to make it.
The message is don’t expect people to “do the right thing” simply because it is so obviously the “right thing.” You have to show them that it is in their immediate – not just long term – interest to do so. A hard thing to accomplish, and sometimes an impossible one.
keenanthelibrarian about 2 years ago
Get out and vote!!
PraiseofFolly about 2 years ago
If the incident happened today, the Cain / Abel murder case would be mired in neverending appeals.
willispate about 2 years ago
it seems we have reached an impasse.
dflak about 2 years ago
The United States has the finest politicians money can buy.
I would like to start a PAC to buy a couple of Congressmen and set them loose in the wild to see if they can survive without being told what to do.
monya_43 about 2 years ago
Citizens United took the power away from “we the people” and gave it to PACs, the wealthy, corporations and dark money.
JRobinson Premium Member about 2 years ago
“Yeah, well, we hate the status quo, and we have enough guillotines for you AND your lobbyists.”
oakie817 about 2 years ago
one term limits for all!!
DM2860 about 2 years ago
No standoff and no change as long as people vote straight party line and only vote for incumbents in primaries and never look at what their politicians are doing.
More Coffee Please! Premium Member about 2 years ago
Forget the “love of money”, politics is the true root of all evil.
mourdac Premium Member about 2 years ago
Thanks, Supreme Court, for Citzens United.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member about 2 years ago
Change what to what? I’m not being facetious. I would like to know at least one solid thing that would actually change if “whoever” gets elected. They say they’ll “fight” for this or “push” for that, but all that fighting and pushing never seems to actually change what they promised.
Wizard of Ahz-no relation about 2 years ago
Maybe the politician should have a look at what’s going on in peking.
hmofo813 Premium Member about 2 years ago
“Standoff” is really the wrong word. The battle is over. The people who own the lobbyists (and the politians) won a very long time ago. If voting made any difference, it would be illegal.
ewaldoeh about 2 years ago
The comfort level of the guy who “loves the status quo” is the trust that all the protesters DON’T really vote. My state stimulated 7% of the registered voters in the spring primary. You know? That time we select the November finalists?
Then 40% decided to stay home in November. Many because they didn’t like the choices. Yeah, love the status quo!
Pickled Pete about 2 years ago
Change is on the horizon. It’ll be the Gen Z awakening.
cfkelley about 2 years ago
In the American political system, the guy with the deepest pockets and the largest bevy of lobbyists and lawyers usually gets what he wants, while the average American citizen is lucky to get noticed on his best of days.
GiantShetlandPony about 2 years ago
The Republican suits have lobbyists and lots of racist, mycologist, etc. rubes. Or as Orange Traitor puts it, suckers and losers.
paranormal about 2 years ago
Someone get the rotten eggs!@!!
dabishton Premium Member about 2 years ago
The sign saying, “We’re for what helps the most people and the planet” Is laying trampled in a side alley.
Richard S Russell Premium Member about 2 years ago
Q: How come corporations are cutting way back on lobbying expenses?
A: They’ve decided that, long-term, it’s cheaper to own than to rent.
lsnrchrd.1 Premium Member about 2 years ago
The sign Wealth holds maybe should say: There is no such thing as “Too Much” when it comes to how much money I believe I am entitled to, so go somewhere and blow yourselves, takers.
lalapalooza Premium Member about 2 years ago
The only question i have is that, if we dont like what they are doing, how are they getting reelected?
Masterskrain about 2 years ago
Sadly accurate.
jvscanlan Premium Member about 2 years ago
. . . and I’m going to make it even worse for you.
Dr_Fogg about 2 years ago
“and they own all the big media companies” How true
Teto85 Premium Member about 2 years ago
Time for action like the British suffragettes.
bakana about 2 years ago
Sad but True: The US Congress listens only to the sound of Money hitting their bank accounts.