Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for November 03, 2021

You’d think at least they would see the massive incinerator in the middle of the solar system if we are too stupid to properly recycle instead of using possibly viable real estate.

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/news/orbital_debris.html

More than 27,000 pieces of orbital debris, or “space junk,” are tracked by the Department of Defense’s global Space Surveillance Network (SSN) sensors. Much more debris — too small to be tracked, but large enough to threaten human spaceflight and robotic missions — exists in the near-Earth space environment.

Sure that’s not “exploit the universe”?

Something to be said for that. Of course in order to fill the moon that full, we’d have to get the population of Earth up into the 30 to 70 billions… and even with manufacturing and food production off planet, I don’t think we can do that (certainly SHOULD not).

Most take the easy way out

I just hope they put all the rubbish on the dark side.

https://youtu.be/8Ey6PQsWeX4?t=1101

Humankind has already left some junk on the Moon and on Mars.

That takes care of the New York City trash.

Can any do the math to see how much trash/mass to transfer from the Earth to the moon to alter gravity enough to draw the moon closer to here?

No laughing matter!! Who’s to say we won’t use the Moon as a landfill, and we already have junk strewn all over Mars!! And that’s just the beginning!!!

Actually, the Sun is the hardest place in the Solar System to reach. It only takes a change of about 9 km/sec to use Jupiter’s gravity to toss things into interstellar space, but you need a change of 30 km/sec to get to the Sun, which involves more than ten times as much energy per pound of trash.

What a waste?

What a waste of waste?

and humans’ joy, absolute joy and DeJoy’s relish with squirting Heinz without end into every nook and cranny of a Bloodied Moon. Throw in onions, chili, and you done got a Varsity dog, not a junior varsity but an Atlanta special it’ll knock you off your socks dog.

I seem to recall reading that a 100 square mile land fill would be more than enough for all the trash that we would ever create. So the problem is actually location.

Agent Smith was right about us.

That’s not the moon. It is San Francisco.

We may need to invent the unmanned garbage truck…oops, probably already have ’em….

why I am against NASA sending people and junk to other planets

My former boss is in the recycling business. He says that he talks trash and that business is picking up.

I thought a lot of that was just whirling in orbit around the earth. . .

I’m thinking we will end up burying the organic and burning everything else. Maybe not now, but sooner or later.

When a species over-populates it’s environment it, by some natural means, gets culled back. Problem is one species has the ability to alter it’s environment and thwart nature’s attempt’s to control it. Seems like so many of the dire issues we’re facing today all stem from a single source, that nobody wants to talk about, too many humans. Can we, once again, engineer our way out of our self created mess? Can we reach a point where we all realize we’re all in this together? I hope so, then we could all live like Star Trek is prognostication.

Cynically … and sadly… accurate.

https://images.app.goo.gl/AsLciQe2hwjeunau6

Just Sayin’

fusilier

James 2:24

I was thinking the extra mass of trash (see what I did there?) would cause the gravity to increase and begin moving towards the Earth again. The world will then be destroyed in 2.5 billion years.

The Simpsons covered this. “Springfield, Plan B.”

As did Wall-E, when “Operation: Cleanup” failed, the Fred Willard doomed humanity to survive in space.

Goes to show you that garbage and trash are forever. It’ll decompose eventually, but not within our lifetime.

We’ll be mining our garbage dumps for minerals and hydrocarbons long before it will be economically profitable to dump our garbage on other planets or into the Sun. It costs a fortune to carry a few pounds as far the Moon.

too true to be funny

It’s so true. That’s why almost every Sci-Fi movie or show that has humanity spreading across the universe is portrayed negatively due to human arrogance of military industrial and corporate agendas. LOL

And that’s just after a couple of years of human colonization

Wouldn’t work no gravity.

Learn space-based sustainability in a station built at L1. THEN move on to other places, using L1 as a staging area. Repeat at L4 and L5.

Earth and Moon L2s are getting crowded with Chinese tech. Best get going, NASA…

Don’t go to Mars.You’ll wake up Abbott&Costello.

After the last Mars probe/rover landed I left a comment on their social media page expressing my concerns over all the trash the landing had generated.

It was not as well received as I had hoped. Evidently, scientists are slobs and they don’t care.

@SCORPIO, And the funny thing about what you said about the “Massive Incinerator” Picture this then; if you could see into the future, you’ll see that we are actually circling in that ginormous drain towards that incinerator, So, it’s all good

I would think we’d run out of stuff to make new crap long before we’d run out of places to dump our old crap.

Star Trek Voyager; the Malon

Better to recycle every last bit of it.

I am very proud that both my sons are in careers to “help the planet”. My eldest is a fish biologist with the US Department if Fish and Wildlife researching endangered species in Washington State, and my youngest is a nuclear engineer with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, keeping nuclear power plants safe and ensuring new ones are built safe, i.e. alternative energy. The family joke when they earned their master’s degrees was that they both shrank the family carbon footprint so much that I could get a Hummer. (That was when Hummers were all over the place, and I would NEVER DRIVE THAT BEHEMOTH!) At the time my little 14 year-old Volvo V40 wagon got about 28 mpg all suburban-street driving.

Seen on a t-shirt:

Earth First

(picture of the earth from space)

We’ll mine the other planets later.

I feel so sorry for this cartoonist.

And dump their sh*t

The Real secret of how Stars get surrounded by Dyson Spheres.

So that’s what you’re calling it, Wiley?

We’re doomed.

If we can’t take care of our own planet responsibility, why do we think another planet is a viable option for mankind.