Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for January 24, 2016

Yikes!

-Not to stereotype, but when I was a lot younger, it did seem as if history was a ‘make work’ project. As I’ve aged and seen how we tend to repeat mistakes if we don’t take the time to learn about them, I’ve become much more interested in history…

Nothing a little live action roleplaying wouldn’t cure.

It’s funny because Luann gets no respect from her parents! (I am being sarcastic. This is not funny.)

LOL

Well, Nancy, part of it has to do with the fact that we all didn’t perceive the world the same way, or process information about the world around us in the same way then, as we would, now. – Another part has to do with the fact that we may not have had the same interests then, nor gotten the sense of their value, as we possibly would, now. – And yet another reason? We didn’t know the value of the saying that "Those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeats of “reality shows”…and whatever’s on “The E! Network”…

“Don’t Know Much About History…” (♪)“Yesterday….” (♪)“Under Prussia” (♫)“Istanbul, Not Constantinople” (♫)“Greece Is The Word” (♪)“Who Do You Think You Tsar?”“The Kaiser’s On A Roll!”“Caveat Empire”“Venice, The Menace”“FYI-Aye -Aye!”“A Five Tsar Review”“The Revolutionary Snore”or“What A Fine Mesopotamia You’ve Gotten Us Into!”

Unless @Argythree has edited his post, there isn’t anything even vaguely sexist in what he wrote, but you are welcome to enlighten me.

I think I should disqualify myself today, having been a European history major in college….

In case you missed it, new poll up: Food style?

It takes a while to seeDictators and monsters are just like youJust like meTo develop an interest in historyOur world is shaped

By what came beforeIt’s the reason we fled to this foreign shoreNow others dieSeeking safety tooAnd monsters still roam the earthI finally appreciate this land of my birth.This book’s not dull Which now I readIt’s value I won’t diminishExcited at lastRealize it does not finish

“Nowadays girls like Luann find Gender Studies much more interesting.”.Haters gotta hate.Luann IS special.No evidence she is taking the course which offends you.In fact, the point made is that history doesn’t interest her..

“I bet even your friends laugh at you behind your back.”.“Mr Green, you didn’t hear what he said about you behind your back.”.“No, nor care. He was decent enough to say it where it wouldn’t hurt my sensitive feelings.”.

Troll much?

@james cameron“Gender Studies is about female contributions to the world normally foot noted or ignored altogether.”.Footnote: X was created and raised by a mother who screwed him up so badly that he …. until he was stopped by XX who was created by a mother who died birthing him and was taught better by his grandmother. He in turn ruled well until his wife, Y, insisted he conquer K because they dissed her. When that failed, she murdered him in his sleep and became the greatest Empress known to Z up until that time — other than wiping out several pesky ethnic groups who refused to accept her benevolent rule.

‘Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.’ George Santayana

I got the history bug in college…

“Dictators, tzars and conquests.” I think Luann IS taking a gender studies class!

Love the GIF, I started wiping my screen.

I totally agree, it was memorizing dates rather than any of the interesting stuff. One of my favorite books was by a British historian on why they lost the Revolutionary war. Politics was his take on it. Army and Navy hated each other.

High school.

Gotta agree with Mum here. I think as the years pass we partly get perspective which can make things like history more interesting or we find a hook into history which can spark our interest.

Not sure what it was for me.

He made a valid point. Many of our college campuses are more interested in left wing indoctrination rather than actual education.

History was so boring in school. Now, 45 years later, I LOVE history….I live for my History Channels and am traveling the world to see all the things I didn’t want to read about back then.

HA.

You just KEEP “NOT Caring About DICTATORS,” Little Miss Clueless!

You’ll SOON find Yourself under the Thumb of One!

……,After Having GLEEFULLY Voting “Them” IN!

It’s when you realize your ancestors came from those times that it becomes fascinating to learn what they had to live through.

Don’t want to alarm you, but I think your computer’s bugged…

don’t know why, but English Lit. was way better than American

Is this the first time that Nancy has mentioned attending college? Did she graduate? Did Frank? If so, that makes Brad the only non-collegian in the family. (Although it remains to be seen whether Luann eventually gets a bachelor’s degree after finishing at her community college.)

When I was in college, I thought my linguistics text was absolutely fascinating. I looked at it 40 years later, figuring on an enjoyable read, and was flabbergasted at how dull it was!

Liked history then, love it now. Not necessarily memorizing dates, although I always thought knowing what happened before was important, but just the history of the world, different cultures, wars, all of that. At least know I don’t have to remember dates, although I do.

live2read: Your attack on Argythree has nothing to do with his/her comment. There was nothing even vaguely sexist about what she/he said.

Boy, is this ever true! After you get the “two-paragraph” version of everything, Mom, think about reading some real history books. . .they’re much more interesting than a textbook. . .

If Nancy took this class 30 years ago in college, she must be at least 48 years old. I loved history in high school, but in college everything moved at an accelerated pace, plus juggling four other classes and a part-time job, it was difficult to keep up with my history class. Now that I can sit back in a comfortable chair and read at my own leisure, it’s much more interesting again.

? Aren’t you responding to the wrong person?

because now, 30 years later, you don’t have the school system sucking the humanity and soul out of learning

I said your exact same words when I read the strip. Hated history in high school, but can’t get enough of reading about it now. I think it’s a matter of maturing to the point of seeing the results of actions taken then. Also realizing that people living then were like the people of today.

That’s EXACTLY what happened to me and History of Western Civ.

It’s a LOT easier to be interested in a subject when you don’t have to take an exam about it.

I believe that it was Oscar Wilde who said, “All history is gossip”, and who doesn’t like a bit of juicy gossip?

“History is more or less bunk. It’s tradition. We don’t want tradition. We want to live in the present, and the only history that is worth a tinker’s damn is the history that we make today.” – Henry Ford, who indeed did make history in the automotive industry

Maybe the key is that 30 years later you can “enjoy” the story without having to memorize the places and faces.

I think you replied to the wrong comment.

It takes 30 years for history to get interesting because that’s how long it takes to read a real book written for a general audience after getting turned off by mind-numbingly dull school textbooks that are not written to excite or inspire.

Dude, warning! I smacked my screen seeing this.

“Why does it take thirty years for this stuff to get interesting?”*Context.Perspective.*Had we known the background, something about the lives of individual people, had we realized that the sames reasons are being used today, history would have been captivating.

I found that I enjoy reading history and literature a lot more if I’m not required to write a report on them.

" it appears a flea is heading straight for her"*BS -saw the bug before I read your post and tried to wipe it off my screen! LOL! Now can you get rid of the fruitflies swarming around?

Never went to college but I’ve always been interested in History. It was probably my best class in school.I was disappointed that so much of the world’s story was never mentioned in class because it wasn’t Western Europe.Ever since I’ve been digging (not literally) into other places just to get a better feel for the whole story.

“Churchill planted the seeds of all the conflicts in the middle east. ".Because they had never had conflicts before?No, because they would have had other conflicts.Sir Winston couldn’t have done everything wrong in the world. Others had to help.

“And you’re a sexist neanderthal who women would be wise to avoid.”.Why does everybody pick on Neanderthals?My grandmother looked very much like the depictions of them (and I look uncomfortably like her).From all studies, they were decent enough people.

As we have already seen, Luann doesn’t vote. She probably isn’t registered. History bores her, and apparently she’s not exactly interested in current events, either.

“The DeGroots need to invest in an end table. Having your hot drink sitting on your armrest is a recipe for disaster, Nancy.”.Yes, this is VERY important.(he said snidely)

@DavidHuieGreen“If we are all special , then no one is.”.Nope, we ALL are. Each in our own particular way.(But I’m the one who married a special education teacher, well, me and a few million others, not the same teacher, though.).If you ever find someone who isn’t special, you will have found an special trait about that person.

@rogersgeorge“Sometimes our memories are suspect.”.I once read that anyone who trusts everything he reads in a history book should read the accounts of eyewitnesses to a fender bender.They often vary vastly.

I really think it was earlier than Churchill. I think Gavrilo Princip screwed us all.

-Not another sexist who doesn’t get it about the struggles we women have been through

Apparently you misunderstood my comment. It had nothing to do with gender. It was about the fact that, as a younger person, a student of either gender may feel impatient with the idea of studying history because it seems out of date.

I fail to see how that comment is sexist. Please enlighten me.

There are good reasons why history may be more interesting to a more mature person, like Nancy..History is about how (adult) people thought and acted in the past, including in faraway places. Young people have a limited ability to understand the full range of what happens in the adult world, including the motivations, desires, fears and tactics that adults use in complex adult situations. That’s not a slam against young people – they just haven’t experienced or witnessed the range of strivings, hard work, successes, defeats, disappointments and chicanery that people go through in leading an adult life. .After a few decades of living, thoughtful adults can better appreciate wbat they read about in history books, because they’ve seen people in action in their own lives..This raises the question – why teach history, or anything else for that matter – to young people if they’re not going to appreciate it? Education serves as mental training, not just to impart facts. By studying a subject, being forced to think about it, writing papers, etc., the student’s mind is getting exercised, even if they don’t enjoy it..The best idea is to get a good education in the human experience when you’re young, then go back and revisit it after you have some human experience of your own.

Does Frank have a job?

> Charlie Brown’s father is a dentist. >When was that revealed? In the Peanuts strip, Charlie Brown mentioned from time to time that his father (unseen, like all the other adults) was a barber.

You seem to be confused. Without the internet, men would have no format at all to claim they get less respect than women.

With today’s arrival in Australia of the four women who rowed coxless (giving it double meaning) across the Pacific from California to benefit two charities, i have to wonder if there will be a way found to revamp the strip to mention that news. British press is giving it coverage. Hopefully, U.S. and Australian press will, too.

“Wile E Coyote dropped a 1,000 – lb ACME weight on them. Those NEVER miss…”.Never miss Wile E. Coyote, that is.

David, that commentor might have been referring to Churchill’s involvement in a large redrawing of borders in the Middle East. The region, like many other locations in the world got split up in very illogical ways by European colonial powers before then, but Churchill really had his thumb in the pie later on that score. The splits of existing groups and the throwing together of conflicting groups caused great consternation that exists to this day. Is it a sole cause of problems? Gads, no. That does not make it ignorable, though, because it really was anything but a good idea and people still are suffering from it.

Night Gaunt, good to see you using the term Daesh instead of the unrealistic and aggrandizing term “Islamic State”. I do not think it will redraw borders, though. To aim for that means believing that there is a future. Daesh is a Suni apocalyptic (i doubt i spelled that correctly) group. People who do not believe in a future for the world do not try to create one.

LOL, “It’s nothing to get so angry about.”What, me angry? You don’t know me very well, do ya? I’m pointing at your post and laughing!

Sorry for the late response. Shoveled five cars, then kicked back and relaxed with the games, today. I just use the “Alt codes”. I hold down the Alt key, while at the same time I type 13 to get ♪ and Alt and type 14 to get “♫”. If you hold down alt and then type any number keys (from 1 to “infinity”, even!), you’ll find a lot of nifty symbols pop up, like “Alt/1” is ☺, and “Alt/2” is ☻. Some nifty combinations and symbols to be found…

“Those NEVER miss…”^In fact, sometimes, some of them work so well, they drop, come back up, make an impact, drop again, and then for good measure, attract a bolder to thoroughly finish the job….

SPOILER ALERT -

Ma Berger may have a bun in the oven. (But probably not.)

So true…I bought a huge history book last year and find it fascinating. I don’t ever remember having a world history class.

Cultures differ. That does not make one or another superior, just different, and it pays to respect that.In an interesting coincidence, the January 15th issue of the journal, Science, has a review of Douglas Field’s new neuroscience book Why We Snap, and loss of territory is one of the major triggers.

" You don’t arrest such people who still have all the power and the US still does.".Nor do we intend to cede that power.Especially to those who provide protection to the real monsters you seem to believe are all Americans and not the Idi Amins, Pol Pots, Maos, Saddams, bin Ladens, Mugabes.You may or may not believe they’re just misunderstood philanthropists.

I fear that Luann may be caught in another time loop..She started at Junior College in Fall of 2014 (real-world time). Full-time students would finish up in two years and get an Associate’s Degree or move on to a four-year college. No mention yet of Luann making any further college plans. She might be stuck in Junior College taking random courses for many years of real-world time.

David, i sincerely doubt that Night Gaunt believes what you seem to imply that he believes. If he were so inclined he would not use the term “Daesh”.

It is one thing to behave with self-respect and for one’s own safety but nations, companies, and rulers, just like trolls and playground classmates, can at times be bullies (and sometimes true monsters) and at other times be absolute deluded farces. So, you both made good points to think about.

Nor are such concerns only things of the past. To name a current problem that involves a different major power — perhaps bypassing tender feelings — logging and mining in virgin jungle areas on other continents than that power’s location have created roads that increase travel and commerce, including the sale of bushmeat. Besides ecological concerns, this has led to the emergence into a larger population of illnesses with zoonotic reservoirs which had been largely isolated — such as ebola. The point being that outsiders often tromp into places figuring they are doing a good thing — partly because for them and from their cultural perspective it seems good — but without understanding the complex interactions involved often create a great deal more mess than good.

I have always loved history, and I still do.

It’s more of a “wanting to” vs. “Being told to” thing.