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Make up your mind, Les. Did she leave you in foster care or pawn you off on your Uncle Al? Or maybe I donât understand exactly what you mean by the phrase âpawned me offâ.
Well we are finding out a lot about Lesâ back story. Similar to how we found out several years back about Toniâs and Jonahâs (although Toni is a sympathetic figure, while Jonah still has not grown up, and depends on his sister, to whom he "pawnsâ Shannon off too), but what is interesting is his dad got killed, how? What was the family set-up with the much older brother, Mr. Grey, and how did they all end up in Pittsville? And finally, Japan? I remember that happening as part of her misadventures before, but was that when Les first appeared at the high school, or before? Tons of mystery.
Les: âShe abandoned Me at age Six after My Dad was Killed. Left Me in Foster Care.â
A) Maybe Ann had a Nervous Breakdown and was Unable to care for You. Therefore She Had No Choice.
Les: âMoved to Japan, Pawned Me off on Uncle Al.â
B) Annâs move to Japan was Involuntary. Perhaps She thought it was best that You stayed in the USA, with a Close Relative. That Why She Took You OUT of Foster Care and left You with Her Brother.
Oh, cry me a river, Les. Just reinforcing, âMy life was so unfair, I get to cheat and steal from everyone else because I deserve it.â
That said.
Yes, this is a story and not RL and I do believe folks are correct the strip will do some sort of Les redemption (if not this arc then eventually). But an IRL Les âŠ. no way.
Finally have Lesâs story. However, it doesnât excuse what he did. He has much to do to atone himself. Will he start by exposing Ann for who she really is? Iâm not stature because children are like dogs, always going back to their masters after being beaten.
[The Eveningâs Self Righteous RantâŠ] A thing that always intrigues me in my mundane encounters with other people⊠and which I see here every day⊠Itâs when someone who has demonstrated the ability to grasp subtleties, to think creatively, to analyze with great discernment⊠when such a someone just goes of the deep end and exaggerates, distorts, swallows nonsense whole and regurgitates it in a fermented state⊠that Iâm always surprised. I ought to be used to it by now, but it is dismaying every time I witness it. Makes me wanna say, âSnap out of it! We both know youâre smarter than that!â Think Iâm thinking about you? Maybe. But itâs of no significance if Iâm wrong⊠and worth thinking about if I might be right. [Steps off soap box.]
None of this story makes any sense. Ann Eyefull is a professional store manager (book store, Wienieworld). An experienced manager can always find work somewhere. But now she appears to have become a scam artist, running some kind of floating craps game. There may or may not be more money in it but having to move the game every day or two and finding chumps to host it is a lot of work and places you in danger from the law. So why go there went she can find work elsewhere.
As for Leslie his backstory has so much misery that itâs unbelievable. Heâs not just fatherless, but abandoned to foster care, apparently reclaimed before being abandoned again when she moved to Japan, pawned off to an uncle who has no emotional interest in him and somehow being required to pay his mother restitution for some unknown crime. Les was just a bully when he first appeared. You donât need any of that to become a bully. Besides, if Les were in foster care why would Ann have to pawn him off to anyone else. Les is also being cared for? Where did the story that Les owed his mother money come from. And if Ann was going to dump Les at an early age why didnât she just go straight to her brother, the mysterious Mr. Grey? Itâs like no one was thinking this through when they came up with Leslieâs backstory. It just makes no sense.
Hereâs a weird/crazy thought⊠With Les reacting so positively to Nancyâs compliments, I wonder, should Les expose Ann and protect the Fuse/K2, would Les then consider Nancy his new âmother figureâ and, in essence, allow Nancy to âadoptâ him?
While Gunther hasnât been mentioned this week, I make a generalization from comments in the past, that there appears to be a divide between those who want Gunther to be Tiffany âs hero, and Les to be Tiffany âs hero. What is disturbing to me right now is that Greg is making it a little too easy to like Les this week. // Part of the âlensâ that I am seeing through is that Les is âgood lookingâ (comparatively, at least) while Gunther is not â though Gunther has been gloomy while Les has been cruel that I have seen â and criminal, as suggested by those who have followed this comic more than I. // Where Iâm going with this: It is my opinion that Greg is making it too easy for us to want to like Les.
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Technical Note: I really like how the âgreg 10-11â matches the perspective of the wall (at least as shown by the window â also drawn in perspective). Very nice.
So ⊠Ann E. is not just âso cool, sheâs cold.â So, does that mean sheâs like Killer Frost??!!
I am intrigued that we have been able to learn considerably more about Lesâ backstory today. It really helps us to understand more how Les has become who he is currently in the comic.
Several today have mentioned an apparent âincongruityâ in that Les was in foster care and also âpawned offâ to his Uncle. I am of the camp that does not see this as an incongruity. I think it is very possible that initially Les may have been placed into foster care. Through some hard work, or through some âpretendâ work, or through happenstance Ann was able to take back custody of Les, and then at some later date, she was able to get Uncle Al to become Lesâ caregiver whether again by a) legitimate means or b) manipulative means.
I can understand Lesâ resentment of his mother. For a young kid, especially one who may not know all the intimate details of the various places he has beenâŠ. his own âstoryâ about what happened will almost assuredly involve at least some resentment. Now, that Les is a young adult, it will be interesting to see how he proceedsâŠ. will he a) summon up all the fortitude he can muster and strive to take the road of doing right and good things, or b) will he foster his resentment and use it as justification to become even more nefarious as he further proceeds into adulthood?
Interesting (to me anyhow) thought⊠is Les being able to sound a) legitimate in his âcool sheâs coldâ comment, or b) sarcastic in his âcool sheâs coldâ comment?
Of course, we the READERS all know Les means it sarcastically, but what way is Les saying it to Ox? To me it is interesting because then I wonder if Oxâs âAwsome!â is a) an appropriate response, or b) incorrect because he does not perceive the sarcasm.
closing the drapes and putting chairs around tables; hard to imagine that as a set up for a lingerie party (which I would assume is the underwear version of a Tupperware party). Les looks like her has done this before and thus knows whatâs going on. Somehow I just donât think heâs going to cover for his mom anymore.
Oxford (who may be a little innocent but is certainly not stupid) adds his contribution to the Positive Reinforcement of Leslie Knox, son and willy-nilly accomplice of Ann Eiffel. Leslie is fatherless, and does not, in the conventional, demonstrative sense, love his cold, distant, and manipulative mother, either. In some ways, his situation mirrors that of Tiffany Farrell (which I suppose is why these two particular storylines are being interwoven)âŠ.
At least weâre starting to understand how Les became the school bully. He is starting to mature⊠one little bit at a time. And Luannâs parents may be just the kind of parental figures heâs been needing all along.
Not to say that Mr. Gray hasnât been doing what he can. Heâs had to deal with having Ann Eifel as a sister long before having to look after Les.
I wish Greg would block comments on his strip. I rarely read the comments on Luann because so many people say really harsh things from their tower of sanctimony. I cringe while reading nearly every comment I read on this strip because commenters are judgmental, make snap decisions on just a little bit of information, are fickle, and seem to hate nearly everyone in the strip. They seem to want everyone to fail and sink into their worst behavior and are almost disappointed when that doesnât happen.
Namrepus over 7 years ago
That makes finding a Motherâs Day card a bit of a challenge.
howtheduck over 7 years ago
Make up your mind, Les. Did she leave you in foster care or pawn you off on your Uncle Al? Or maybe I donât understand exactly what you mean by the phrase âpawned me offâ.
Vilyehm over 7 years ago
Hey we have a duel winner.
Ox is helping to close.
Les is revealing his feelings.
Wizardgoat over 7 years ago
Les is definitely about to expose Ann. This buildup is too much to think otherwise.
AnyFace over 7 years ago
Good to see Ox again.
Pointspread over 7 years ago
Ox & Ann might make a good coupleâŠ
Templo S.U.D. over 7 years ago
Officer Knox and Ann mustâve had some riffs together.
gromit82 over 7 years ago
What I want to know is how Les wound up having a judge order him to make payments to the mother who abandoned him.
Vilyehm over 7 years ago
Wow. Drapes now magically appear. And round tables where NOBODY is going to look at somebody wearing lingerie.
Lotza clues today.
31768 over 7 years ago
Like someone else said here yesterday, Less maybe turning on Annw Awful. Incredible but possible. All thanx to Nancyâs sweet comment. Wow.
luann1212 over 7 years ago
Well we are finding out a lot about Lesâ back story. Similar to how we found out several years back about Toniâs and Jonahâs (although Toni is a sympathetic figure, while Jonah still has not grown up, and depends on his sister, to whom he "pawnsâ Shannon off too), but what is interesting is his dad got killed, how? What was the family set-up with the much older brother, Mr. Grey, and how did they all end up in Pittsville? And finally, Japan? I remember that happening as part of her misadventures before, but was that when Les first appeared at the high school, or before? Tons of mystery.
tejanolasereyes over 7 years ago
Does anyone think Tiff will bring Gunth over to the party? Or is that wishful thinking on my part?
Wizardgoat over 7 years ago
Les used to resent Ox, since Ox restrained him from some bullying in high school. But now, it seems that Les is pretty much accepting of Ox.
Mordock999 Premium Member over 7 years ago
Les: âShe abandoned Me at age Six after My Dad was Killed. Left Me in Foster Care.â
A) Maybe Ann had a Nervous Breakdown and was Unable to care for You. Therefore She Had No Choice.
Les: âMoved to Japan, Pawned Me off on Uncle Al.â
B) Annâs move to Japan was Involuntary. Perhaps She thought it was best that You stayed in the USA, with a Close Relative. That Why She Took You OUT of Foster Care and left You with Her Brother.
Les: âSheâs so Cool, Sheâs Cold.â
C) Kinda Like YOU, Huh?
lopaka over 7 years ago
I would be a bit bitter too
someguy3 over 7 years ago
Oh, cry me a river, Les. Just reinforcing, âMy life was so unfair, I get to cheat and steal from everyone else because I deserve it.â
That said.
Yes, this is a story and not RL and I do believe folks are correct the strip will do some sort of Les redemption (if not this arc then eventually). But an IRL Les âŠ. no way.
Brdshtt Premium Member over 7 years ago
â« In a mauve room with yellow curtains near the police station⊠âȘ
capricorn9th over 7 years ago
Finally have Lesâs story. However, it doesnât excuse what he did. He has much to do to atone himself. Will he start by exposing Ann for who she really is? Iâm not stature because children are like dogs, always going back to their masters after being beaten.
nosirrom over 7 years ago
Lesâ mom is so cool that she makes absolute zero feel like a heatwave.
jimmjonzz Premium Member over 7 years ago
[The Eveningâs Self Righteous RantâŠ] A thing that always intrigues me in my mundane encounters with other people⊠and which I see here every day⊠Itâs when someone who has demonstrated the ability to grasp subtleties, to think creatively, to analyze with great discernment⊠when such a someone just goes of the deep end and exaggerates, distorts, swallows nonsense whole and regurgitates it in a fermented state⊠that Iâm always surprised. I ought to be used to it by now, but it is dismaying every time I witness it. Makes me wanna say, âSnap out of it! We both know youâre smarter than that!â Think Iâm thinking about you? Maybe. But itâs of no significance if Iâm wrong⊠and worth thinking about if I might be right. [Steps off soap box.]
beb01 over 7 years ago
None of this story makes any sense. Ann Eyefull is a professional store manager (book store, Wienieworld). An experienced manager can always find work somewhere. But now she appears to have become a scam artist, running some kind of floating craps game. There may or may not be more money in it but having to move the game every day or two and finding chumps to host it is a lot of work and places you in danger from the law. So why go there went she can find work elsewhere.
As for Leslie his backstory has so much misery that itâs unbelievable. Heâs not just fatherless, but abandoned to foster care, apparently reclaimed before being abandoned again when she moved to Japan, pawned off to an uncle who has no emotional interest in him and somehow being required to pay his mother restitution for some unknown crime. Les was just a bully when he first appeared. You donât need any of that to become a bully. Besides, if Les were in foster care why would Ann have to pawn him off to anyone else. Les is also being cared for? Where did the story that Les owed his mother money come from. And if Ann was going to dump Les at an early age why didnât she just go straight to her brother, the mysterious Mr. Grey? Itâs like no one was thinking this through when they came up with Leslieâs backstory. It just makes no sense.
TORAD_07 over 7 years ago
Hereâs a weird/crazy thought⊠With Les reacting so positively to Nancyâs compliments, I wonder, should Les expose Ann and protect the Fuse/K2, would Les then consider Nancy his new âmother figureâ and, in essence, allow Nancy to âadoptâ him?
Godzilla2016 over 7 years ago
She did him like Will Smithâs dad on âFresh Princeâ
tiprod1953 over 7 years ago
I offer a guess that the âlingerie partyâ might be ticketed to guys only. Strip club? Interesting story line potential.
GirlGeek Premium Member over 7 years ago
Ice cold
Cheapskate0 over 7 years ago
While Gunther hasnât been mentioned this week, I make a generalization from comments in the past, that there appears to be a divide between those who want Gunther to be Tiffany âs hero, and Les to be Tiffany âs hero. What is disturbing to me right now is that Greg is making it a little too easy to like Les this week. // Part of the âlensâ that I am seeing through is that Les is âgood lookingâ (comparatively, at least) while Gunther is not â though Gunther has been gloomy while Les has been cruel that I have seen â and criminal, as suggested by those who have followed this comic more than I. // Where Iâm going with this: It is my opinion that Greg is making it too easy for us to want to like Les.
Same2Ubuddy over 7 years ago
Sale- half off on last seasonâs fractions.
Schrodinger's Dog over 7 years ago
the drapery could be a temporary addition to suit the supposed event.
Schrodinger's Dog over 7 years ago
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Banjo Gordy Premium Member over 7 years ago
No wonder Les has anger issues.
Code the Enforcer over 7 years ago
Technical Note: I really like how the âgreg 10-11â matches the perspective of the wall (at least as shown by the window â also drawn in perspective). Very nice.
So ⊠Ann E. is not just âso cool, sheâs cold.â So, does that mean sheâs like Killer Frost??!!
JayBluE over 7 years ago
(Les:) âAll in all, itâs just another brick I want to pick up and hurlâŠ.â (âȘ)
-
If this were happening in the height of the fake talk shows, you could almost hear Jerry or Maury salivatingâŠ
JayBluE over 7 years ago
âYouâre As Cold As Iceâ (âȘ)
âOne And One Make Sub-Zeroâ
âYour Aunt Artie Called!â
âLove In The Ice Ageâ (âŹ)
âJumpinâ Jack Frostâ (âŹ)
âSheâs A Killer Queen..â (âȘ)
âWhy I Donât Sing The Bluesâ (âŹ)
âGot To Make The Worst Of A Bad Situationâ (âŹ)
âPretty Ugly"
âSimply Complicatedâ
âFlash In Ja-panâ
âYou Can Go Your Own WayâŠâ (âȘ)
âRunaway Child, Running Wildâ (âŹ)
âShadows In The Land Of The Rising Sunâ
or
âCan You Be Less Pacific, Please?â
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 7 years ago
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I am intrigued that we have been able to learn considerably more about Lesâ backstory today. It really helps us to understand more how Les has become who he is currently in the comic.
Several today have mentioned an apparent âincongruityâ in that Les was in foster care and also âpawned offâ to his Uncle. I am of the camp that does not see this as an incongruity. I think it is very possible that initially Les may have been placed into foster care. Through some hard work, or through some âpretendâ work, or through happenstance Ann was able to take back custody of Les, and then at some later date, she was able to get Uncle Al to become Lesâ caregiver whether again by a) legitimate means or b) manipulative means.
I can understand Lesâ resentment of his mother. For a young kid, especially one who may not know all the intimate details of the various places he has beenâŠ. his own âstoryâ about what happened will almost assuredly involve at least some resentment. Now, that Les is a young adult, it will be interesting to see how he proceedsâŠ. will he a) summon up all the fortitude he can muster and strive to take the road of doing right and good things, or b) will he foster his resentment and use it as justification to become even more nefarious as he further proceeds into adulthood?
Very interesting.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 7 years ago
Interesting (to me anyhow) thought⊠is Les being able to sound a) legitimate in his âcool sheâs coldâ comment, or b) sarcastic in his âcool sheâs coldâ comment?
Of course, we the READERS all know Les means it sarcastically, but what way is Les saying it to Ox? To me it is interesting because then I wonder if Oxâs âAwsome!â is a) an appropriate response, or b) incorrect because he does not perceive the sarcasm.
Scoutmaster77 over 7 years ago
Maybe heâs setting mom up for a police sting and âraid.â Nevertheless, it wonât look good for the Fuse and DeGroots.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen over 7 years ago
Once again, Leslie spoke truth.
ViscountNik over 7 years ago
That family brought the Fuse into this world, they can take it out.
Schrodinger's Dog over 7 years ago
Will Nancy and Anne fight over who should be the âmother figureâ to Les? Stay Tooned !
RSH over 7 years ago
closing the drapes and putting chairs around tables; hard to imagine that as a set up for a lingerie party (which I would assume is the underwear version of a Tupperware party). Les looks like her has done this before and thus knows whatâs going on. Somehow I just donât think heâs going to cover for his mom anymore.
Dugiejo over 7 years ago
So, Les has mommy abandonment issues and Tiffany has daddy "abandonment for new girlfriend issues. HmmmâŠ.sounds like an new arc pattern to me!
RSH over 7 years ago
Ox is not on but hopefully he will soon.
Sisyphos over 7 years ago
Oxford (who may be a little innocent but is certainly not stupid) adds his contribution to the Positive Reinforcement of Leslie Knox, son and willy-nilly accomplice of Ann Eiffel. Leslie is fatherless, and does not, in the conventional, demonstrative sense, love his cold, distant, and manipulative mother, either. In some ways, his situation mirrors that of Tiffany Farrell (which I suppose is why these two particular storylines are being interwoven)âŠ.
Dragoncat over 7 years ago
At least weâre starting to understand how Les became the school bully. He is starting to mature⊠one little bit at a time. And Luannâs parents may be just the kind of parental figures heâs been needing all along.
Not to say that Mr. Gray hasnât been doing what he can. Heâs had to deal with having Ann Eifel as a sister long before having to look after Les.
jimmymanners over 7 years ago
Ox might be wanting to turn Anne into Stifflerâs mom.
Vilyehm over 7 years ago
Les gets reformed but he goes away for two years.
Marines.
Winds up on Special Unit for combating illegal gambling.
sam.adams.15 over 7 years ago
I wish Greg would block comments on his strip. I rarely read the comments on Luann because so many people say really harsh things from their tower of sanctimony. I cringe while reading nearly every comment I read on this strip because commenters are judgmental, make snap decisions on just a little bit of information, are fickle, and seem to hate nearly everyone in the strip. They seem to want everyone to fail and sink into their worst behavior and are almost disappointed when that doesnât happen.
Naldrin about 1 year ago
Well, to be fair, she moved to Japan because her bosses sent her there.