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I did find in English class, if I wrote my first draft, then grabbed a thesaurus for the rewrite, I got at least a full grade better on the paper.Said the same thing with more words.
I wonder what itâs like nowadays, when phrases are abbreviated or represented by first letters of each word, and words are truncated. Would a wordy paper be considered rude rather than intelligent?
Thatâs not the way. Write the story of a young girl in Nazareth who is about to be married and all of a sudden turns out pregnant. To avoid the scandal, and the groom running away, she says that it was âan angelâ who did it. However, things go wrong when everyone falls for it, her son starts a tour of delusion preaching a ânew religionâ, and all the commotion keeps her lover away. Let the Vatican promote your book :D It doesnât have to be good. Ask Dan! ;D
When promulgating your esoteric cogitations or articulating your superficial sentimentalities and amicable, philosophical, or psychological observations, beware of platitudinous ponderosity. Let your conversational communications demonstrate a clarified conciseness, a compact comprehensibleness, no coalescent conglomerations of precious garrulity, jejune bafflement and asinine affectations.Let your extemporaneous verbal evaporations and expatiations have lucidity, intelligibility and veracious vivacity without rodomontade or Thespian Bombast.Sedulously avoid all polysyllabic profundity, pompous propensity, psittaceous vacuity, ventriloquial verbosity and vaniloquent vapidity. Shun double-entendre, obnoxious jocosity and pestiferous profanity, observable or apparent.
It is the insuperable desire for the feeling of mental and linguistic aptitude that best stands in the way of communication. We laboriously elucidate, elaborate , and illuminate, in indecipherable phrases that merely serve to vex, perplex or flummox our interlocutors. In the process, the kernel of the message becomes intricately intertwined in the ludicrous livery in which we couch it. Therefore, despite the gratuitous gratification of pompous verbosity, the only constructive conclusion is that simplicity is key.
if teachers didnât have it in their college course work, youâre out of luck rat. We are what we are thanks to what is poured into us. Trump preys on his victims by this dictum.
In case anyone wants to know, "The official translation in that context is Noli Timere Messorem. This isnât the most natural word order (which would be noli messorem timere), but the meaning is the same: a command to a single person, âdo not fear the reaperâ. Blue Oyster Cult did it better.
âEverywhere I go, Iâm asked if I think the universities stifle writers. My opinion is that they donât stifle enough of them. Thereâs many a best seller that could have been prevented by a good teacher.â Flannery OâConnor.
Ratâs not far off! The central character in a mystery crime series I recently finished reading, was a London Police Inspector who got into trouble for punching a dognapping priest.
Iâm a big fan of clear, straight-forward writing, but there are meanings and effects you canât get in a simple style. There can be a great pleasure in playing with the language. I would say something similar about music, for example, or painting. The great modernists (say, Stravinsky in music, Picasso in painting) achieved amazing meanings and effects that wouldnât have been possible in a simpler style. I think there can be a kind of pride in anti-intellectualism that I donât admire. Sure, burst the bubbles of the pompous and pretentious, thereâs no shortage of targets, but donât assume that because you wonât take the time to understand it, it canât be understood.
How many of you have learned something you didnât previously know by reading a reference to it in a novel? For that matter how many of you, when encountering a reference to something you donât know in a novel, look it up?
Even if you only read fiction, you can learn a lot of things by reading widely. If you actively donât want to learn anything you didnât already know, stay away from books in general. Or sometimes even comic strips. Or the comments to comic strips, where Iâve learned many interesting things over the years.
âIf I get the reference and you donât, the writer is being erudite and you are ignorant. If you get the reference and I donât, the writer is being obscure and youâre a snob.â
I see that some are complaining that Dickensâ novels (for example) are too long. But I notice that a lot of people these days spend many hours binge-watching TV series. When Dickensâ novels were first published, they came out in magazine instalments, once a week or once a month, over the course of a year or longer. So they were the series of their time. And for those who ask, âWhy donât these writers get to the point?â, I would say, some points take a while to get to. Why isnât a basketball game decided by the first score? Because thatâs not the point. My mother-in-law used to say, âWouldnât these game be settled more quickly if they would just have two balls, one for each team, then they wouldnât have to fight over it.â Yes, sheâs missing the point. (And she knew it; she was a smart and funny lady.) The message in a novel is not like the message you find in a fortune cookie. Itâs the whole thing, if itâs a good novel.
Literature today is looked upon much like films. While there are people who can appreciate The Battleship Potempkin there are far too many people who think Ernest Goes To Camp is mighty high brow.
Funny how no-one asked about âAstra Planetaâ. Did you all think he was talking about a planet? The phrase means, literally, âWandering Starâ and I assume from the time of year it refers to the âChristmas Starâ.
âPatriarchâs feathersâ? Fallen from an angelâs wings? We need more ideas.
I am sure there are plenty of English teachers who would really go for Ratâs obscure story. It is the fodder for dozens of abstruse lectures and academic articles!
Hereâs the web search results for those who wondered but didnât want to bother: âThe Astra Planeta were the children of Eos and Astraeus. They were the younger siblings of the Anemoi. They symbolized the classical planets,⊠"(Greek Mythology) (Do I need to point out that âapparitionâ might refer simply to âthe appearingâ or a spirit or ghostly visual phenomenon? Oh, everyone understands âphenomenon,â right?)
noli temere messorium = do not fear the reaper
as the patriarchâs feathers crested gravityâs arch: Yeah, donât thing the interweb will help on that one. I think Pastis was just making up a metaphorical phrase, perhaps referring to the priestâs hair flying up as energetically put his whole body into the swing of his punch.
Iâm presently reading one of Tom Wolfeâs books, and I agree there is a lot of pretentiousness in some writersâ works. John Grisham will never be called a literary writer, but at least heâs easy to read.
As for the classics, Iâm sure Iâm not alone when I say I didnât understand a word of The Sound and the Fury, even when re-reading it as an adult.
BE THIS GUY about 3 years ago
Amazing how Hemingway, Steinbeck, Salinger, Cheever managed to be great and successful writers without following Ratâs rules.
Renatus Profuturus Frigeridus Premium Member about 3 years ago
The more entangled and obscure you are, the more successful you will be.
andacar about 3 years ago
The sad thing is, as an English major, I know it might just work.
jmarkoff2 about 3 years ago
Mark Twainâs definition of a great literary classic was âsomething that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read.â
Mine is âa tiresome, plodding, unpleasant chore that no one reads unless they get it assigned to them.â
Templo S.U.D. about 3 years ago
Wow.
sirbadger about 3 years ago
Twas a dark and stormy Knight of Andalusia carrying halberd dâoeuvres.
Stocky One about 3 years ago
âNoli timere messoremâ = âDonât fear the reaper.â
RuComm about 3 years ago
The secret of great writing is the same as Colin Chapmanâs (of Lotus) for designing great cars: Simplify and add Lightness. Rat is wrong again.
TampaFanatic1 about 3 years ago
Perhaps this is why any work by William Faulkner is so drawn out and boring.
Caldonia about 3 years ago
If it wasnât published more than 50 years ago very few teachers will assign it anyway.
Cornelius Noodleman about 3 years ago
I learned it. It is spelled I, T.
ronaldspence about 3 years ago
Rat. Cerbanres would say, âyou are a pudding stuffed with proverbs!â
finzleftright about 3 years ago
Sounds like Stephen isnât interested in any literature more challenging than the funny pages!
DanMercer about 3 years ago
Joseph Conrad, Franz Kafka, Thomas Wolfe and William Faulkner all seem to have followed Ratâs advice. Call it the abrogation of self-abnegation.
blunebottle about 3 years ago
Wow, Ratâs really on to something.
Sanspareil about 3 years ago
âThey moved South as they headed North on their Westward journey to the East!â
iggyman about 3 years ago
Rat: If you canât impress them with your talents baffle them with B.S! !
Meme Dee Dee (king of the comic reviewers) about 3 years ago
Do not fed the reaper!
franki_g about 3 years ago
I did find in English class, if I wrote my first draft, then grabbed a thesaurus for the rewrite, I got at least a full grade better on the paper.Said the same thing with more words.
I wonder what itâs like nowadays, when phrases are abbreviated or represented by first letters of each word, and words are truncated. Would a wordy paper be considered rude rather than intelligent?
cdward about 3 years ago
Just wondering who Ratâs English teacher was. Mine assigned great, fun reads.
gopher gofer about 3 years ago
a screaming comes across the skyâŠ
Ellis97 about 3 years ago
That wonât be much of a bestseller.
James Wolfenstein about 3 years ago
Thatâs not the way. Write the story of a young girl in Nazareth who is about to be married and all of a sudden turns out pregnant. To avoid the scandal, and the groom running away, she says that it was âan angelâ who did it. However, things go wrong when everyone falls for it, her son starts a tour of delusion preaching a ânew religionâ, and all the commotion keeps her lover away. Let the Vatican promote your book :D It doesnât have to be good. Ask Dan! ;D
gsawyer101 about 3 years ago
Dickens swallowed Samuel Johnsonâs âDictionary of the English Languageâ then wrote âTale of two citiesâ
juicebruce about 3 years ago
Nothing to see here âŠ. Time to move on ;-)
WaitingMan about 3 years ago
riverrun,
Procat Premium Member about 3 years ago
They canât be the same cop and the priest who David Bowie sang about in the song Five Years.
Little Caesar about 3 years ago
When promulgating your esoteric cogitations or articulating your superficial sentimentalities and amicable, philosophical, or psychological observations, beware of platitudinous ponderosity. Let your conversational communications demonstrate a clarified conciseness, a compact comprehensibleness, no coalescent conglomerations of precious garrulity, jejune bafflement and asinine affectations.Let your extemporaneous verbal evaporations and expatiations have lucidity, intelligibility and veracious vivacity without rodomontade or Thespian Bombast.Sedulously avoid all polysyllabic profundity, pompous propensity, psittaceous vacuity, ventriloquial verbosity and vaniloquent vapidity. Shun double-entendre, obnoxious jocosity and pestiferous profanity, observable or apparent.
It is the insuperable desire for the feeling of mental and linguistic aptitude that best stands in the way of communication. We laboriously elucidate, elaborate , and illuminate, in indecipherable phrases that merely serve to vex, perplex or flummox our interlocutors. In the process, the kernel of the message becomes intricately intertwined in the ludicrous livery in which we couch it. Therefore, despite the gratuitous gratification of pompous verbosity, the only constructive conclusion is that simplicity is key.
Zebrastripes about 3 years ago
Too many words spoil the plot
jessie d. about 3 years ago
if teachers didnât have it in their college course work, youâre out of luck rat. We are what we are thanks to what is poured into us. Trump preys on his victims by this dictum.
chris_o42 about 3 years ago
In case anyone wants to know, "The official translation in that context is Noli Timere Messorem. This isnât the most natural word order (which would be noli messorem timere), but the meaning is the same: a command to a single person, âdo not fear the reaperâ. Blue Oyster Cult did it better.
Reader about 3 years ago
âEverywhere I go, Iâm asked if I think the universities stifle writers. My opinion is that they donât stifle enough of them. Thereâs many a best seller that could have been prevented by a good teacher.â Flannery OâConnor.
Ignatz Premium Member about 3 years ago
Noli Timere Messorem was also the motto on Terry Pratchettâs coat of arms, and he was an author who did not follow Ratâs advice AT ALL.
Serial Pedant about 3 years ago
âGravityâs Rainbowâ, Thomas Pynchon: the most lied-about book since âUlyssesâ.
gigagrouch about 3 years ago
Noli messorum timere actuallyâŠ
rugeirn about 3 years ago
Isnât it interesting how so many people know how to write a bestseller and yet so few of them have done it?
rshive about 3 years ago
Or, like too many stories Iâve seen, you can start in the middle. And make sure to get âadjectivitisâ.
WCraft about 3 years ago
Dang â 1/3 of the way through my novel and now I see that Iâve been doing it wrong. Time to start over. SighâŠ
Linguist about 3 years ago
Ratâs not far off! The central character in a mystery crime series I recently finished reading, was a London Police Inspector who got into trouble for punching a dognapping priest.
Snolep about 3 years ago
Yes he said yes he will yes.
lonecat about 3 years ago
Iâm a big fan of clear, straight-forward writing, but there are meanings and effects you canât get in a simple style. There can be a great pleasure in playing with the language. I would say something similar about music, for example, or painting. The great modernists (say, Stravinsky in music, Picasso in painting) achieved amazing meanings and effects that wouldnât have been possible in a simpler style. I think there can be a kind of pride in anti-intellectualism that I donât admire. Sure, burst the bubbles of the pompous and pretentious, thereâs no shortage of targets, but donât assume that because you wonât take the time to understand it, it canât be understood.
raybarb44 about 3 years ago
If a Catholic Priest punches out an Irish Cop, I just GOT to read that bookâŠ..
CaveCat87 about 3 years ago
Yeah, I donât think anybodyâs gonna understand that, Rat. Even Pig didnât understand that.
hoffquotes2 about 3 years ago
Is Pastis a frustrated novelist?
Goat from PBS about 3 years ago
This must be how Charles Dickens wrote his novels. I never did like Charles Dickens⊠too wordy. Just get to the point already!
proclusstudent about 3 years ago
James Joyce, my eyes kept sliding off the page.
TSRaman about 3 years ago
Hemingway?, Steinbeck?, Salinger?, Cheever? Who are these guys?
Pgalden1 Premium Member about 3 years ago
See? Easy-peasy Buahahahahaha
esarde about 3 years ago
My Latin IV class was way too long agoâŠtranslation, please.
fritzoid Premium Member about 3 years ago
How many of you have learned something you didnât previously know by reading a reference to it in a novel? For that matter how many of you, when encountering a reference to something you donât know in a novel, look it up?
Even if you only read fiction, you can learn a lot of things by reading widely. If you actively donât want to learn anything you didnât already know, stay away from books in general. Or sometimes even comic strips. Or the comments to comic strips, where Iâve learned many interesting things over the years.
fritzoid Premium Member about 3 years ago
âIf I get the reference and you donât, the writer is being erudite and you are ignorant. If you get the reference and I donât, the writer is being obscure and youâre a snob.â
lonecat about 3 years ago
I see that some are complaining that Dickensâ novels (for example) are too long. But I notice that a lot of people these days spend many hours binge-watching TV series. When Dickensâ novels were first published, they came out in magazine instalments, once a week or once a month, over the course of a year or longer. So they were the series of their time. And for those who ask, âWhy donât these writers get to the point?â, I would say, some points take a while to get to. Why isnât a basketball game decided by the first score? Because thatâs not the point. My mother-in-law used to say, âWouldnât these game be settled more quickly if they would just have two balls, one for each team, then they wouldnât have to fight over it.â Yes, sheâs missing the point. (And she knew it; she was a smart and funny lady.) The message in a novel is not like the message you find in a fortune cookie. Itâs the whole thing, if itâs a good novel.
pearlyqim about 3 years ago
Sounds like a book I just quit reading because there was too much of that crap! :-)
hitek1st about 3 years ago
ITâS TRUE! English teachers love it when you use obscure references and characters!
Display about 3 years ago
Literature today is looked upon much like films. While there are people who can appreciate The Battleship Potempkin there are far too many people who think Ernest Goes To Camp is mighty high brow.
Lightpainter about 3 years ago
Where is the car chase, Rat?! If you have that, you will sell the movie rights to the story.
I'm Sad about 3 years ago
I think in English Literature terms and not regular English âNoli Timere Messoremâ means âDo not be afraid of the reaperâ.
Donald Heller about 3 years ago
Donât fear the bleeper!
WF11 about 3 years ago
It appears that Rat has been at it all day and/or night, since he is sporting 5 oâclock shadow. I didnât know rats could do that.
willie_mctell about 3 years ago
Panel one sounds like the punch line to a âWalk into a barâ joke.
Jayneknox about 3 years ago
Hey Stephan, have you perchance been reading Hogfather? :)
Lana M. about 3 years ago
This one belongs in âFrazzââŠ.
Kveldulf about 3 years ago
Funny how no-one asked about âAstra Planetaâ. Did you all think he was talking about a planet? The phrase means, literally, âWandering Starâ and I assume from the time of year it refers to the âChristmas Starâ.
âPatriarchâs feathersâ? Fallen from an angelâs wings? We need more ideas.
MollyCat about 3 years ago
Whoops, he leaked the secret of the âgreatâ writers.
knight1192a about 3 years ago
Getting English teachers to assign it doesnât make it great literature.
tlwalker Premium Member about 3 years ago
I sent it to my book club, âcause weâre reading Henry James.
Sisyphos about 3 years ago
I am sure there are plenty of English teachers who would really go for Ratâs obscure story. It is the fodder for dozens of abstruse lectures and academic articles!
Congratulations, Rat!
CaptainComicFanatic about 3 years ago
Does anyone have any idea what the hell this means?
DaBump Premium Member about 3 years ago
Hmm, SOMEbody seems to have had trouble in English class. Ah. Explains a lot, actually. ;)
DaBump Premium Member about 3 years ago
Hereâs the web search results for those who wondered but didnât want to bother: âThe Astra Planeta were the children of Eos and Astraeus. They were the younger siblings of the Anemoi. They symbolized the classical planets,⊠"(Greek Mythology) (Do I need to point out that âapparitionâ might refer simply to âthe appearingâ or a spirit or ghostly visual phenomenon? Oh, everyone understands âphenomenon,â right?)
noli temere messorium = do not fear the reaper
as the patriarchâs feathers crested gravityâs arch: Yeah, donât thing the interweb will help on that one. I think Pastis was just making up a metaphorical phrase, perhaps referring to the priestâs hair flying up as energetically put his whole body into the swing of his punch.
Croc Holliday about 3 years ago
Iâm presently reading one of Tom Wolfeâs books, and I agree there is a lot of pretentiousness in some writersâ works. John Grisham will never be called a literary writer, but at least heâs easy to read.
As for the classics, Iâm sure Iâm not alone when I say I didnât understand a word of The Sound and the Fury, even when re-reading it as an adult.
The one and only Eldest Arc (now at peace) over 2 years ago
This is completely unrelated to anyone or anything except my stomach. I must have a banana. How about you, do you have a favorite fruit or vegetable?