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I watched my son earn nine national championships in karate, and in every tournament where he was not grand champion (male) he was disappointed, but gracious to whomever defeated him.
Some people (most of âem?) really love to WIN. Some to the exclusion of any other goal. The folks I most like being around, though, also like to DISCOVER things and SHARE good things and CREATE stuff (whether useful or artistic⊠or an attempt).
Now Frazz starts us off with a bad assumption. In what world did colleges use sports to teach kids to win (and what does that even mean)? College sports are all about money.
The idea of school sports goes back to the Romans: Mens sana in corpore sano, a sound mind in a sound body. Winning and losing is a byproduct of athletics, not the goal of athletics.
Sports are about channeling young menâs natural aggressiveness into nondestructive activities. Teaching them to play fair, be good sports, always do your best, and accept both victory and defeat gracefully are helpful in turning boys into men.
The regular season is about being the biggest fish in a small pond. The post-season is about being the biggest fish in the BIG pond. You have to be âa winnerâ among the first even to qualify as âa loserâ among the second. For some teams, anything less than the championship is a letdown, and missing the post-season entirely is a humiliation. For others, simply finishing the season with a winning record is noteworthy, and at any level winning more games this season than you did last season builds enthusiasm for next season. And of course, if you lose every regular season gave except the very last one, youâre going to party heavily after that win.
Itâs commonly referenced in this strip that Frazz doesnât win a lot of his races (running, swimming, or cycling), or even be particularly competitive in them. But he prefers to compete among (and against) the elites. Heâd win more if he only competed against lesser athletes, but would that satisfy him?
My Alma Mater (Illinois) regularly qualifies for the NCAA tournament, sometimes as a fairly high seed, but itâs been nearly 20 years since theyâve made it past the second round. Yesterdayâs win over Duquesne, however, means theyâre headed to the Sweet Sixteen, so whether or not they reach the Elite Eight (let alone the Final Four), theyâll probably consider it a very good season.
In contrast, my high school went four calendar years without winning a basketball game; we didnât set the national record for consecutive losses, but we held the state record (for all I know we still do). I was there when we won the game to end the streak, any we all lost our heads for joy.
One factual error: In the NCAA tournament (as in World Cup), the four teams who reach the final round each play two more games. The winners of the first game play each other for the crown, but the two losing teams play each other as well. Both the 1st place finisher and the 3rd place finisher end their seasons with a win.
1. In context, âending the season with a lossâ means losing the last game of the season.
2. Now that there are post season tournaments for all conferences â the winner qualifies for MM â it is very rare for a team to NOT end their season losing their final game.
Most teams end their season in a conference tournament that sends its champion to the NCAAs. To end their season on a win without making the NCAAs (or NIT) a team would need to be an independent or in a conference that either doesnât have a tournament or doesnât get an automatic bid for its champion. Not up to date enough on college athletics to know how many teams, if any, would qualify.
As I have said before: One of my heroes is Robert Maynard Hutchinson; when he was President of University of Chicago he not only developed the Great Books system of education (with Mortimer Adler), but spoke the truest words of any college president ever â especially one whose school was a major football powerhouse; to wit, âInterscholastic athletics is entirely incompatible with education.â And with that, he shut their program down. U of C has not had a football team since 1939 â but they have had more Nobel Prize winners than any other university in the worldâŠâŠ..
terrapin6000 Premium Member 12 months ago
I love this comic but does anyone else get thrown off with the gradients he uses when colored ?
Bilan 12 months ago
Technically, the only teams would be the rare case of teams with a no-loss season AND winning the championship.
Uncle Kenny 12 months ago
I watched my son earn nine national championships in karate, and in every tournament where he was not grand champion (male) he was disappointed, but gracious to whomever defeated him.
Concretionist 12 months ago
Some people (most of âem?) really love to WIN. Some to the exclusion of any other goal. The folks I most like being around, though, also like to DISCOVER things and SHARE good things and CREATE stuff (whether useful or artistic⊠or an attempt).
thevideostoreguy 12 months ago
Expand it to âat least one lossâ and suddenly itâs right and true.
Cactus-Pete 12 months ago
Now Frazz starts us off with a bad assumption. In what world did colleges use sports to teach kids to win (and what does that even mean)? College sports are all about money.
Doug K 12 months ago
You may end with a win as you end with lots of losses.
rheddmobile 12 months ago
Learning how to lose well is a very important life skill. Winning is much easier.
cdward 12 months ago
The entire win-lose mentality is unhealthy.
Geophyzz 12 months ago
Todayâs strip is more of that âEveryoneâs a winnerâ mentality, that helps breed mediocracy.
Ichabod Ferguson 12 months ago
The idea of school sports goes back to the Romans: Mens sana in corpore sano, a sound mind in a sound body. Winning and losing is a byproduct of athletics, not the goal of athletics.
Rotary12 Premium Member 12 months ago
Well, the life story is that not everybody is a winner and that it takes practice and perseverance to win, Also cooperation with others.
Carl Premium Member 12 months ago
Technically college sports is about learning how to be exploited and to pour money into the college.
Slowly, he turned... 12 months ago
The college âmoneyâ sports only teach students one thing â ask Coach Saban.
sandpiper 12 months ago
Meh
Lambutts 12 months ago
And high school sports arenât?? They also have tournaments, but, in basketball, for example, EVERY team qualifies for the postseason.
Charles 12 months ago
Sports are about channeling young menâs natural aggressiveness into nondestructive activities. Teaching them to play fair, be good sports, always do your best, and accept both victory and defeat gracefully are helpful in turning boys into men.
car2ner 12 months ago
basketball is boring as IMHO. The players are too tall, the scores are too high. It seems like the last few minutes are the only ones that count.
The Wolf In Your Midst 12 months ago
We teach kids to win so that we can vicariously feel like winners through them, and superior to others who supported those who didnât win.
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If we were smart, we would teach kids that cooperation is more important than winning. But we are not smart.
fritzoid Premium Member 12 months ago
The regular season is about being the biggest fish in a small pond. The post-season is about being the biggest fish in the BIG pond. You have to be âa winnerâ among the first even to qualify as âa loserâ among the second. For some teams, anything less than the championship is a letdown, and missing the post-season entirely is a humiliation. For others, simply finishing the season with a winning record is noteworthy, and at any level winning more games this season than you did last season builds enthusiasm for next season. And of course, if you lose every regular season gave except the very last one, youâre going to party heavily after that win.
Itâs commonly referenced in this strip that Frazz doesnât win a lot of his races (running, swimming, or cycling), or even be particularly competitive in them. But he prefers to compete among (and against) the elites. Heâd win more if he only competed against lesser athletes, but would that satisfy him?
My Alma Mater (Illinois) regularly qualifies for the NCAA tournament, sometimes as a fairly high seed, but itâs been nearly 20 years since theyâve made it past the second round. Yesterdayâs win over Duquesne, however, means theyâre headed to the Sweet Sixteen, so whether or not they reach the Elite Eight (let alone the Final Four), theyâll probably consider it a very good season.
In contrast, my high school went four calendar years without winning a basketball game; we didnât set the national record for consecutive losses, but we held the state record (for all I know we still do). I was there when we won the game to end the streak, any we all lost our heads for joy.
fritzoid Premium Member 12 months ago
One factual error: In the NCAA tournament (as in World Cup), the four teams who reach the final round each play two more games. The winners of the first game play each other for the crown, but the two losing teams play each other as well. Both the 1st place finisher and the 3rd place finisher end their seasons with a win.
bobbyferrel 12 months ago
Someone once commented that the message to the silver medalist is, âCongratulations. Of all the losers, youâre the best.â
braindead Premium Member 12 months ago
1. In context, âending the season with a lossâ means losing the last game of the season.
2. Now that there are post season tournaments for all conferences â the winner qualifies for MM â it is very rare for a team to NOT end their season losing their final game.
Kevin Green Premium Member 12 months ago
Most teams end their season in a conference tournament that sends its champion to the NCAAs. To end their season on a win without making the NCAAs (or NIT) a team would need to be an independent or in a conference that either doesnât have a tournament or doesnât get an automatic bid for its champion. Not up to date enough on college athletics to know how many teams, if any, would qualify.
DM2860 12 months ago
A man is not great because he hasnât failed; a man is great because failure hasnât stopped him. â Confucius
School is not to give away cheap victories but more about overcoming adversities.
Nebo 12 months ago
Maybe thatâs why I never watch sports. Meaningless.
jf13fox 11 months ago
Sports is not about teaching kids to win. Itâs about teaching kids to strive, to overcome challenges, teamwork, and physical fitness.
markkahler52 11 months ago
What if they were all ties?
Ukko wilko 11 months ago
Colleges today donât teach. They indoctrinate.
Cozmik Cowboy 11 months ago
As I have said before: One of my heroes is Robert Maynard Hutchinson; when he was President of University of Chicago he not only developed the Great Books system of education (with Mortimer Adler), but spoke the truest words of any college president ever â especially one whose school was a major football powerhouse; to wit, âInterscholastic athletics is entirely incompatible with education.â And with that, he shut their program down. U of C has not had a football team since 1939 â but they have had more Nobel Prize winners than any other university in the worldâŠâŠ..
comicboyz 11 months ago
And those teams like University of Michigan, that entered with a long string of losses. smh