Gasp! The are actually aware that Shannon has flaws! I thought they thought she was adorable and should have whatever she wants, which is why she gets whatever she wants! Now I know they’re just lazy!
Brad should quit trying to insist on a big family. At this point, the fact that Toni is willing to think about 1 kid is major progress for him – and since he has no real idea how much this will cost (child care, etc.), he should wait to see how the whole situation works out…
But Shannon IS getting better under Brad and Toni’s care. True, it’s a VERY slow process, but it is getting results. She never had a “home” with her sperm donor—what with his chasing his impossible “dreams” all over the globe! Brad and Toni’s house is the only place where she has any stability.
“If we raised her, she would be different, she would be better”… you absolutely CANNOT say that with any level of certainty at all. Those are the words of people who have other people’s kids around them for a few hours at a time, a day, a weekend, or a week. You enjoy the kids for a short period of time, then one of the greatest things possible happens… THEY GO HOME. When they’re living with you full-time, it’s a completely different kettle of fish..
Toni is right, but it’s mostly thanks to the presence of her, Brad, TJ and the rest of the Degroot family that Shannon is slowly becoming a less chaotic and much, much happier child.Having Shannon for a whole month, a very hot one, will be a difficult test. If they can overcome it, they’ll definitely be ready to raise children of their own. I still hope that, at some point, Toni’s aunt will appear to help
Feminist indoctrination. Portraying men as having to put their natural desire for multiple children behind them. Submit to the personal goals of women. Or else.
Marriage is about a team. Men are the natural providers and defenders. Women are the natural bearers and nurturers of children. Many women regret missing out on bearing children and focusing on them during their formative years.
Women have been mislead with the lie that they can be active career women and have kids or, maybe just a husband is enough. If he submits to the childless future preferred by the anti-human elitists.
This strip is one such example of the lies and propaganda spread to Gen Z and millenials that is part of the anti-natalist movement.
Hubris! And Shannon’s behavior is fine. She’s not on-screen at all, she has a lot of imagination, she’s engaging, and she self-advocates like a healthy kid does.
Economics of children. You wouldn’t pay 5 cents for somebody else’s (No matter how good), or take a million Dollars for one your own (No matter how bratty).
Jebus, Brad, she’s right. One chaotic mess at a time. Anyone who gets all dreamy about a second child when they haven’t had their first child yet? There’s a screw loose there somewhere.
This answers a question I’ve had for a while now, namely: Given their experience with Shannon, why do they still want kids? Apparently the answer is that they’re refuzing to apply the lessons they’ve learnt from Shannon to their own potential offspring.
So if Toni has such firm ideas on child raising, why hasn’t she made any effort to teach Shannon some boundaries and manners? She and Brad have every right to establish rules for Shannon when she’s at their house. and expect the kind of good behavior she claims her own children would show. Toni better watch out! That remark is the kind of thing that comes back to bite you! Their child will turn out to be an even worse monster than Shannon LOL!
Since Shannon staying for a month is apparently a new thing I think she spends much more time with her father than people assumed. It does make me wonder why Brad and Toni went to the trouble of building her a separate room just for periodic babysitting.
Brad and Toni at least try to install discipline with Shannon. But even thoughit seems like it at times, Shannon doesn’t live with them full time. Who know what kind of discipline (if any) Jonah has for her.Brad wants more than one kid for himself, and, Toni? A little Brad, and, Luann?
I agree. Their child would be different for many reasons. Mainly, because they would be there for the child more. Children with different rules and expectations in different locations still fall back into chaotic behavior if that’s what they experience most of the time.
Yes, thank you, “My brother’s child is a horrible hellion allowed to run wild, unlike any child I raise which will be a perfect polite little angel at all times” is exactly what was needed to make Toni as loathsome as possible in all this.
Nice to see Toni talking about a future “kid(s)” now! Before it was out of the question (indefinitely). I think the recent “scare” she had a few months ago got her thinking. It’s nature. She’d make a great mom someday. My dad was a fireman, and it was a blast “growing up” in a firehouse. Hopefully it’ll be soon!
lvlax 6 months ago
Seriously?? With how often they have babysat Shannon.. Brad feels they still need parent practice ?
Well, it looks like they’re going to cave and watch Shannon for a month.
Jonah has it made in the shade. Maybe next time he should ask for 3 months? :/
Tenax 6 months ago
As much as they already have had Shannon to watch … one would think they’d have taught her better behavior by now.
Prescott_Philosopher 6 months ago
Nah, talking about parent practice was just a way of easing into a conversation RE having kids.
beb01 6 months ago
Brad must like sleeping on the sofa since he’s always annoying Toni with the getting pregnant stuff.
Sue Ellen 6 months ago
Kids are born with a personality. Try all you will to shape it, you can only hope to guide it.
Joe1962 6 months ago
Why do I always think Toni, is the adult in this relationship?
Ruth Brown 6 months ago
Your house, your rules. Children need structure and it helps them.
Caldonia 6 months ago
Gasp! The are actually aware that Shannon has flaws! I thought they thought she was adorable and should have whatever she wants, which is why she gets whatever she wants! Now I know they’re just lazy!
californiamonty 6 months ago
Ahah! Toni just might have foreshadowed an adoption arc.
Argythree 6 months ago
Brad should quit trying to insist on a big family. At this point, the fact that Toni is willing to think about 1 kid is major progress for him – and since he has no real idea how much this will cost (child care, etc.), he should wait to see how the whole situation works out…
saobadao 6 months ago
Toni and Brad don’t get maternity/paternity leave for the month Shannon is with them. Way different planning circumstances.
Willow Mt Lyon 6 months ago
Is this going to be another comic strip with twins?
Wilkins068 6 months ago
Incrementalism Bradley, incrementalism..
Wilkins068 6 months ago
Toni looks super adorable in th last picture
Mordock999 Premium Member 6 months ago
Maybe, just MAYBE the reason why Jonah’s life is such a “chaotic mess” is because YOU help enable it, Toni.
Just saying……., ;-)
R.W.Singer -SF 6 months ago
Watching Shannon would make me go get snipped.
nightflight 6 months ago
Brad has that, “Let’s do it again” look, and Toni has that “Be happy with what you got” look.
snsurone76 6 months ago
Brad looks just like TJ in the last panel, LOL.
snsurone76 6 months ago
But Shannon IS getting better under Brad and Toni’s care. True, it’s a VERY slow process, but it is getting results. She never had a “home” with her sperm donor—what with his chasing his impossible “dreams” all over the globe! Brad and Toni’s house is the only place where she has any stability.
uhohlol 6 months ago
Parenting isn’t of everyone, and it shouldn’t be. The world needs a lot less humans.
JonnyT 6 months ago
Wow, they actually said their own kids would be BETTER than Shannon. Saying the quiet part out loud? This may be the best Shannon story line ever.
French Persons' Celebration of Peeved Harry Dinkle Premium Member 6 months ago
“If we raised her, she would be different, she would be better”… you absolutely CANNOT say that with any level of certainty at all. Those are the words of people who have other people’s kids around them for a few hours at a time, a day, a weekend, or a week. You enjoy the kids for a short period of time, then one of the greatest things possible happens… THEY GO HOME. When they’re living with you full-time, it’s a completely different kettle of fish..
bh05150 6 months ago
Shannon still is the Scappy Doo of this comic strip.
leighabc123 6 months ago
If they raised Shannon, she would have much better behavior than she has shown thoughout this strip!
Ellis97 6 months ago
This really could be a great opportunity for them to get a head start of what true parenthood is like. I think Shannon should stay with them.
stealth694 6 months ago
Let’s see,, Shannon has been living with them for How Long??Remember it’s not the time spent, it’s the commitment.
Aladar30 Premium Member 6 months ago
Toni is right, but it’s mostly thanks to the presence of her, Brad, TJ and the rest of the Degroot family that Shannon is slowly becoming a less chaotic and much, much happier child.Having Shannon for a whole month, a very hot one, will be a difficult test. If they can overcome it, they’ll definitely be ready to raise children of their own. I still hope that, at some point, Toni’s aunt will appear to help
papajim545 6 months ago
He wants to keep practicing
Free or Not? Premium Member 6 months ago
Feminist indoctrination. Portraying men as having to put their natural desire for multiple children behind them. Submit to the personal goals of women. Or else.
Marriage is about a team. Men are the natural providers and defenders. Women are the natural bearers and nurturers of children. Many women regret missing out on bearing children and focusing on them during their formative years.
Women have been mislead with the lie that they can be active career women and have kids or, maybe just a husband is enough. If he submits to the childless future preferred by the anti-human elitists.
This strip is one such example of the lies and propaganda spread to Gen Z and millenials that is part of the anti-natalist movement.
MS72 6 months ago
I love it. Brad and Toni discussing the situation sounds like a lot of the comments this week. Seems like they know the reaction of the fans…
Count Olaf Premium Member 6 months ago
A month with that spoiled obnoxious little witch would make a good case for celibacy.
Amina Rush 6 months ago
Hubris! And Shannon’s behavior is fine. She’s not on-screen at all, she has a lot of imagination, she’s engaging, and she self-advocates like a healthy kid does.
NiteKat 6 months ago
Brad’s pushing it. They don’t even have one kid (of their own) yet, and he’s already insisting on more.
Toni should tell him if he wants a houseful of kids, then HE can give birth to them. For her, it’s one and done. :D ;D
tcmrr1 6 months ago
Economics of children. You wouldn’t pay 5 cents for somebody else’s (No matter how good), or take a million Dollars for one your own (No matter how bratty).
tremaine53 6 months ago
Jebus, Brad, she’s right. One chaotic mess at a time. Anyone who gets all dreamy about a second child when they haven’t had their first child yet? There’s a screw loose there somewhere.
tidewaterscot 6 months ago
Shannon will become a Karen.
rshive 6 months ago
One family in a town I lived in had twelve children (mostly boys). They seemed to all get along super well. Wonder if there’s a secret.
Twelve Badgers in a Suit Premium Member 6 months ago
This answers a question I’ve had for a while now, namely: Given their experience with Shannon, why do they still want kids? Apparently the answer is that they’re refuzing to apply the lessons they’ve learnt from Shannon to their own potential offspring.
nightflight 6 months ago
Art work is good, but story lines are heavy handed.
Shanana 6 months ago
Oh yes, they train themselves very well, especially when they hand Shannon to Luann.
prrdh 6 months ago
Toni is overlooking the huge contribution having a kid makes to turn your life into a chaotic mess.
MuddyUSA Premium Member 6 months ago
My mother had….get this…….11 kids……………….
mousefumanchu Premium Member 6 months ago
Bud has a LOT to learn.
comic reader 22 6 months ago
So if Toni has such firm ideas on child raising, why hasn’t she made any effort to teach Shannon some boundaries and manners? She and Brad have every right to establish rules for Shannon when she’s at their house. and expect the kind of good behavior she claims her own children would show. Toni better watch out! That remark is the kind of thing that comes back to bite you! Their child will turn out to be an even worse monster than Shannon LOL!
please don’t let this continue next week.
Amina Rush 6 months ago
I’d like to see a Shannon retrospective on the luannfan website!
kauri44 6 months ago
Since Shannon staying for a month is apparently a new thing I think she spends much more time with her father than people assumed. It does make me wonder why Brad and Toni went to the trouble of building her a separate room just for periodic babysitting.
mindjob 6 months ago
Would they spare the rod and spoil the child?
KEA 6 months ago
There lives are so full… why are they considering having Kids? (tradition I guess)
The Quiet One 6 months ago
Slowdown Brad, one chaotic mess at a time.
WilliamVollmer 6 months ago
Brad and Toni at least try to install discipline with Shannon. But even thoughit seems like it at times, Shannon doesn’t live with them full time. Who know what kind of discipline (if any) Jonah has for her.Brad wants more than one kid for himself, and, Toni? A little Brad, and, Luann?
Kenezg 6 months ago
I agree. Their child would be different for many reasons. Mainly, because they would be there for the child more. Children with different rules and expectations in different locations still fall back into chaotic behavior if that’s what they experience most of the time.
NatureBatsLast 6 months ago
“Kids?” 8 Billion not enough?
sueb1863 6 months ago
Remember the time Shannon painted the couch? That was an expensive piece of furniture ruined.
BJShipley1 6 months ago
Yes, thank you, “My brother’s child is a horrible hellion allowed to run wild, unlike any child I raise which will be a perfect polite little angel at all times” is exactly what was needed to make Toni as loathsome as possible in all this.
rikkiTikki Premium Member 6 months ago
I forget-where is the kid’s mother?
kstewskis 6 months ago
Nice to see Toni talking about a future “kid(s)” now! Before it was out of the question (indefinitely). I think the recent “scare” she had a few months ago got her thinking. It’s nature. She’d make a great mom someday. My dad was a fireman, and it was a blast “growing up” in a firehouse. Hopefully it’ll be soon!
eced52 6 months ago
Let’s start the parenting while pregnant arc.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace 6 months ago
People that good should leave multiple offspring. Some others should leave none. Some should just leave.
lnrokr55 6 months ago
Gee, wonder how this ends up. The last story line really set the table I think. This has the potential to really change Luann World! Stay tuned !
Hydrohead 6 months ago
If she only wants one chaotic mess at a time, she should stop with just having a husband.
Rhetorical_Question 6 months ago
Shannon would still have a strong will.
PaulLeckner 6 months ago
How will Shannon take the competition for Toni and Brad’s undivided attention?
Kaycee Lane 6 months ago
Nobody knows better how to raise children than the childless… lol