Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for July 16, 2013

This came, no strings attatched….

Oh my! Widdle Miss Tiffany is having a pity party.

WAKE UP GIRL! No one’s paying any attention to you!

And, Gerry, I hope you were around yesterday to see all the speculation about Tiffany. Sure, some of it was the same flippant anti Tiffany stuff, but most was about why she might be like that and where she might have come from. It seemed so wrong for you not to be there.

Poor baby! Wake up and smell the toilet girl

Wow… And all along I thought it was just a comic strip.

And If I might add along with everyone, GL, I also posted a response and agreed with you, and also hoped for your return….and I also implore you to read the comments from yesterday…. many wouldl really surprise you and you’d see there are many who would appreciate your insight into Tiff….

Thing is, girls like Tiffany rarely change, unless they get into a church group, get “radically saved” and turn their lives around (which could be another interesting angle), but even then they don’t always change that much unless they SEE the rotten way they treat people and make the decision to make drastic changes.

Gotta love that Gunther.

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Gerry has left us? :( That’s sad, Gerry is a fun poster, while I don’t like Tiff, it certainly is no reason for someone to quit. For the longest time, I was the only one who thought Shannon was actually not a bad little girl, other people put her (my favorite character) down; but, I never let it bother me; just kept pointing out how lonely she was and soon, others could see the good in her; so, don’t let others hatred of Tiff bother you, you, like anyone else, have a right to your opinion; however, the same goes for everyone, whether they like Tiff or not.

I didn’t see Gerry’s post Sunday, but hey….. All you guys are great fun to read. The world sure would be a dull place if there was only one opinion allowed.

Woof!

I complain about that and I get a wave of comments that state Luann has out grown her and Toni is taking her place and a bunch of other antiBernice posts.

^^How is pointing out the fact that Toni is now Luann’s main sounding board (which if you look at the strips is the truth) “Anti-Bernice”? I happen to be very fond of Bern myself, but, Greg seems to be writing her out, as you yourself have said; so pointing out how Bernice is no longer Luann’s closest friend isn’t anti-Bernice, but, just stating a fact. As far as the rest of us being “cattle”; that is a personal insult to the rest of us; being part of a majority opinion doesn’t make one cattle, we chose to agree, or disagree with the majority, not follow blindly; get over yourself Lev, you are not “holier than thou”!

Well I see how this is gonna play out.

Tiff acts mopey and sad because she didn’t get her way, Gunther feels sympathy, starts to get taken advantage of by her, then once she gets her fix she leaves and she learns nothing.

Don’t fall for it again, Gunth.

Great comments, Levi. For that matter, lots of input all around. (which is why I seldom get a chance to comment on Luanniverse…too popular!) But it sure is one of my favourites! Why? Because a lot of the characters remind me so much of my high school aquaintances. Who didn’t have an archetypical Tiffany in their crowd? Or a Gunther? A Bernice, etc, etc?Sitting back and enjoying the patter……

Maybe the commenters would have more respect for Tiffany if she weren’t characterized as a completely one-dimensional, self-serving opportunist.

Thank you! Been wanting to say that for a long time.

Gerry Lee, just in case you didn’t get a chance, I wanted to reemphasize a couple of things from when I responded, right as soon as I saw your post on Sunday…==I agree with you how it’s unfair it seems…. I related how many people will flock to a program about a serial killer and some even excuse such a character, because of the premise that "the character also gets the ‘bad guy’ ", but will unfairly condemn a 17 Y.O. comic strip character who has committed no crimes… and to me, it seems truly unfair…. ==And as others have stated, many of us (definitely including myself) also state views that are not necessarily shared by everyone, but still we all have a right to post and express our views, and yours was original, and positive…… you’d find that amongst the negative posters, there are those that you can engage in healthy and constructive discussions with, and you add a great point of view….==Tiffany has been portrayed as “Luann’s nemesis”, but she is a very important member of the cast, as portrayed in many promotional pictures and the like for this strip… it’s just the way that Professor Moriarty was integral to Sherlock Holmes, among other examples…. as Lev has stated many times, if everyone in the strip acted and were drawn exactly the same way, with exactly the same expressions and the like, there would really be no strip…. so again, please reconsider… and also again, you’d be pleasantly surprised at how many have actually commented things that you’d be encouraged to read….-Jay

Call me a Dirty Old Man, but ‘shower’ in the Toni+Brad context, for me, has always implied ‘together’.

Awww! Poor persecuted princess.Tighter, Gunther! Tighter! Yes!

If the truth were known, there is usually someone like Tiff in any group of girls/ women….no matter the age of the individuals in the group. I don’t think Tiff realizes how her personality and actions are grating on everyone’s nerves ( including many of the readers of this comic). She truly believes she is perfect….and above everyone else.

Tiff may be self- centered, but she also seems to be very ambitious. She joined this group because she aspires to be an actress which is also playing a huge role in how she interacts with the others. One piece of advice job counsellors always give is ‘if you want a specific job you have to see yourself in it’ and act the part as much as possible. Tiff is certainly doing that.

The fact that so many adults are enjoying this comic is terrific but the goal isn’t supposed to be to shoot people down because of their comments. At the same time, it is not our place to continually drag the concept of ‘a sex life for the characters’ into every single discussion on this thread. This is still a kids comic strip and I would strongly bet parents have stopped their kids from reading the comments because some of them have become a titch too ‘blue’.

This strip is supposed to be light reading and some are making it a battlefield of viewpoints. Everyone should be welcome here even if they don’t accept certain ideas about the characters.

Just have a good time everyone! Lighten up!

NOW, You’ve DONE it, Gunth.

One “SOB Story” Comin’ Up!

@ Leviticuswhat you’ve got to realize is tiffinay is the villain of this piece think about your own high school days wasn’t there someone just as arrogant

Hmmm… Based on these last two days, who thinks that Gunth could wind up playing match-maker and help Tiff find an actual boyfriend?

What amazes me is, if some don’t like what’s been said about a character or if for some pathetic person are attacked themselves in the comment section..Then perhaps, just enjoy the comics you like, but just tell yourself to don’t check the comment section...We didn’t have them when these things were in newspapers..I guess the though of getting the chance of others reading what you think is appealing. But there is a price..Garry Lee, I do hope you’re still reading and enjoying the strip and maybe just not stopping by here.

Having raised three children, very close in age, one a spineless idiot, one a psychopath and one a decent human being, I am quite sure that people are born wired differently.

It’s just a comic strip for Pete’s sake. These characters are not real people so even though there are vain self centered people in the world Tiff isn’t one of them. She is just lines on paper or a computer screen.

Wasn’t her being booted by the Chamber of Commerce for misbehavior because of TJ’s scam?And while she has done bad things in the past she has been less bad lately was even willing to help TJ try to dispose of Ann Eiffel.

Be careful, Gunth. You got a snake there.

it’s a Tiffany pity party!

Why, it’s a whole herd of drama queens!

in theory, wouldn’t it be possible to read & enjoy the comic without participating in (or even reading!) the comments?

I wish I were more tike Sheraton SL: being able to see the plus side without all the negatives.Unfortunately my mind focusses more on what could go wrong :(

No one here posted a long winded rant on a character in comic strip fer gods sweet sake.

Got it. You like one of the bad guys in the comics. Understood you have a different slant.

As for the rest of us.. It is a comic strip.. Sounds to me like you need to get a life.

Awww poor Tiff, playing the victim again dear? The thing with girls like you Tiffany is that you never see how much you are responsible for the situations you find yourself in. Maybe if you actually cultivated a talent for something other than obnoxious self-interested babble you’d have real friends Tiff.

I’ve been reading Luann for about 6-7 years now. The last two years on-line after we stopped getting the paper. I am sometimes blown away by the number of “posts”. Your posts are always fun and informative. But there’s lots of drivel out there by some posters that’s worthless. I think the point of the comment by fosdick (echoed by John and chefwen) is that some people seem to hang here all day writing assumptions to the personality or thoughts of a make believe person. Or little witty banter with songs or commercials. I wish there was a way to do a “sort” so one could just delete much of this stuff. At least you keep it real and what it is. Yours, very short comments, and a couple other regular commenters are usually all i like to read now. I’m sure I’ll offend some folks and apologize up front if this strikes a nerve..

People generally do.

Forms “Luann Fan Support Group”Cleans up…If only…

Good comment hevnrth

To offer a fresh perspective (hopefully)…

You know, I’m new to the comments section on this site, and I have to say what I have seen is rather sad. I expect some people to be all for the “bad” characters because that’s how comic strips work. What I didn’t expect was to see people jumping down each other’s throats over opinions. If someone wants to believe that Tiffany can change, then thats great. If someone else wants to think that she never will, thats fine too. There is absolutely no need to get so worked up over this, or any, comic strip.

Being new, I have to say that if these comments were the first I had read for the comic strip, I may not have kept reading. It’s OK to be excited about a particular character, but please keep the personal attacks and insults out of the comments section. Don’t call people names or generalize. Otherwise, all you will accomplish is to scare off any new commenters that might happen to read the strip. If you do that, then you will be arguing with the same people forever with no new people to offer fresh perspectives.

In summary: – Comment what you like about the strip, but leave the personal attacks out of your comments – Leave inappropriate comments about ANY character out of your comments – Try to remember that there are people behind these usernames who have feelings and lives outside this strip – Enjoy the comic as a comic, and move on with your day

(Clearing my throat) MOOOOO!

Sorry to hear that. I thought everyone showered & had sex in the shower daily!

I can’t belive some of the comments posted here, All of you need to get a life. This is only a comic strip.

Geez, it’s only a comic.

Y’all know we’re talking about a comic strip, right? Not real people. These are plot points and punch lines, not intended to be taken as life-changing moments.

I said it before, and I’ll say it again… some people have jobs and schedules that allow them to comment more frequently, some not… some have a way that they like to express themselves, some don’t … ==But to assume and generalize that some posters have no life? What about Facebook or Twitter or the like?…. do the people saying “get a life” go there all the time? Or watch a certain TV show or network all the time? Following some celebrity?… What do we talk about at work all the time? Be honest….It’s easy to tell people to “get a life”, but I’m sure that somebody somewhere is probably saying the same to us at some point in time… what entertains one does not entertain all.. what some people do, some don’t… but never assume that the people have no life, because you’re not there with them….we’re just posters on a screen, here…==Personally, I myself only read a select number of comics….10 or 12…. of that, I only post to even fewer on a regular basis…. with the exception of this strip and 1 or 2 others, the rest are “one joke gag” strips, so no need to post a bunch everywhere else… here is the only place that I post the most… why? For one thing, Luann is an involving strip… it is popular for a reason.. story and characters… more in depth ones than some others… also, when I first saw the comments on here, I saw how fun it was, and how “witty and creative” people’s posts were… it stimulated me to want to, as well… so sure we all have differences of opinion… tastes, too… but as someone said yesterday, if we don’t like a comment, we’re not forced to read it… we can scroll on…….

Good. Now to get her even more depressed so that she will go away for good.

There ain’t enough cheese in all of Wisconsin to go with THAT whine.

As far as getting a life, a life that revolves around flirting, looking and dressing like a whore, being completely self-centered and totally vain is not a worthy life or someone that should be liked at all (and definitely not worthy of emulating).

For what is it worth, I really admire Tiff’s spunk and can do attitude. I have written many times that she actually stirs the pot and gets things done. I look for her to rebound in this current arc – she may take a few hits, but any decent villain always rebounds.

Other than that I can only say “Moooo!”

wow well said.. some people get so deep into a story… i guess i can relate…

AMEN LOL

doesnt strips reflect to us at times like a mirror?

Wow. Condemn a girl for a couple of youthful pranks. We judge these kids so morally when they are teens and when they are adults they get rewards and praise for bad behavior, whether in religion, politics, finance, or whatever. I think Tiff will learn from these endeavors and, for example, end up owning, lawfully, the mortgage on Luann’s house. And, in her cheery fashion, will pick through your stuff on the curb for some charity event while having Lu evicted. Just business.

But if you showered with the one you love, you’d probably have s-x almost everytime. Just to compare apples to apples.

Some of ya’ll really worry me. You cant seem to grasp that THIS IS A COMIC STRIP! You are not making any sense.

uh, it’s a comic strip.

Wah, wah, wah…

For goodness sake, this is a comic strip. No need to go of on a diatribe (which sounds kinda whiny…).

ahem coughs politelyI don’t normally comment, but some of you people out there in Luann land take this stuff waaaaaay too seriously. Attacking 2d pen and ink cartoon strips indicates a level of disconnect from reality that is a bit frightening. Maybe some of you should get a life, no? I’m just sayin.

It’s just a comic strip. It happens to be my current favorite one, but it’s just a comic strip. Getting offended by what anyone on here says is laughable. I think you are doing the right thing Gerry. If it hurts you to read to other people’s comments then not doing so is what I would recommend. People’s views on Luann or Greg Evans are not of much value. The only thing that matters is how you feel about yourself. So, I say ignore the trolls and pervs that infiltrate this comments section. It’s your self-esteem that needs working on. Good luck with that. When you are able to find confidence in your voice come on back.

Hell hath no fury…

Had fun today. Kind of a joy to respond to the energetic comments from so many. Appreciate our deeply knowledgeable and persistent posters. Off to alternative reality #2 – setting up a Google Voice phone configuration for a non-profit. Say, where did Donnie go, btw.

And why did these double posts start up?

Too bad, I was interested in seeing Tiffany’s master plan go into action…unless this is it? Play on the sympathy of people to attract Quill? Ooh, very clever.

Casual Observer..how obvious

How can anyone offer sympathy for Tiffany when her motivation was to hurt Luann?!?

without conflict, there is no story. There has to be a ‘bad guy’, in order to see the ‘good guy’ – that said, it is a good comic strip with a well written ‘bad girl’! I enjoy it all.

Sorry, guy, but Tiff’s designed to be the bad guy. She does stuff that is just plain wrong and bad, and then whines when she gets a lesson handed to her.

Glad she’s your fav. Character but that doesn’t mean she gets to stop being the villian.

Oh come now. The comments here are downright polite and cordial. If you want to see rude and obnoxious check out the comments at http://www.nj.com/comics-kingdom/index.ssf?feature_id=Funky_Winkerbean

Hey folks – it’s just a comic strip.

I agree that there should be bad guys or else it would be like most other strips (which are more funny but bit one-dimensional). However there could a number of bad guys in luann apart from a hateful bimbo. Why not just have TJ, Ann, world, crystal and Bernice be the bad guys? That’s plenty for this strip.

Sorry, meant to say Elrod not world.

This is after all a comic strip folks . . . .Mr Evans plays with you each day and it would seem that some take it seriously.SIGH!

I appreciate your comments, Leviticus. (Interesting juxtaposition of screen name with sensitive comments – Leviticus being a Bible book of list of abominables heh heh/)

It’s a comic strip and one can take both the characters and posters too seriously. I’ve ragged on Tiffany, myself. I also suspect strongly that Greg has the character firmly in mind in a more rounded way.

One can see that there is a hypersensitivity in her. Such people often exhibit traits like Tiffany to mask their insecurities and pain. If Greg ever does a background arc on her, I will be happy to see it.

Of the teens, only Tiffany and maybe Crystal have not grown as they have aged. The coterie around Luann have. All are deeper now than when the strip started. Even TJ. who was kind of the male counterpart to Tiffany in his own way – the heavy, complicating Brad’s life. Perhaps Tiff will have her turn.

Maybe even before the drama camp is over. Who knows?

Give Tiffany some credit. At least Tiffany knows what she want’s; isn’t afraid to go after it, and doesn’t wait for someone else to make the first move.

So she behaves badly toward people and pouts when she isn’t accepted and adored. No sympathy from me. It would be different if she were kind and was still rejected. Then you can fault the others. But she would rather indulge in self-pity than try to learn from what her actions do to her.

“You freaks need to get a life…”^There’s a saying that when you point a finger, then three are pointing back at you.. (as an exercise, make a pointing gesture, and count the digits not extending out in the point… ) .not name calling here personally, just saying that everyone spends time on something…. for example, some people wait in line for a “smart phone” that’s already obsolete as soon as you buy it, and the next week the latest one comes out… as I mentioned earlier, there’s also Facebook, Youtube, many others… which one of these (or another) do you honestly like? Even sports? Something? You have to fill your time with something (Work is work, and I’m sure you like to have some kind of fun afterward, maybe even during…) I wonder if you’d get mad if someone somewhere said the same to you… calling you a “freak”? Okay, then….

@levi, “everyone” loves TJ? Assuredly all do not. statements like that are very troll like.

say, did anyone else notice that it’s only a comic strip?

Wha-a-a-a-a-t!? You mean I’ve been wasting my time on entertainment! Excuse me, I’ve got to go fall on my sword.

What’s wrong with cattle?

Do you suppose that we could get gocomics.com to post some kind of permanent “THIS IS ONLY A COMIC STRIP AND ALL THE POSTERS BELOW HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THIS” banner above the comment column to possibly stem the flow of inane observations like we’ve had tody?

Does anyone remember the show Little House on the Prairie? Nellie was a horrible brat and mean to everyone, she eventually grew up and became decent. Hopefully the same thing will happen to Tiffany.

I’m kind of hoping Evans does some character developement with Tiff. There may be a reason she acts like she does. Maybe all the need for attention – of any kind – is a cry for help. Of course maybe she’s manipulating those around her, but a little depth to Luann fans’ farorite villaness sounds like fun.

I get the real reason you are leaving the group here. is not only do you identify with tiff.is that possibly in some ways you actually act like her in real life.you EXPECT to be the center of attention from everyone. you expect that you are supposed to get your way every single time.…….in many ways, your attitude about tiff reminds me of my husband ex-wife in how she felt her fav chars should be treated like. since she did identify with them…..

Is it possible that Greg Evans is not making a point about Tiffany but about the fact that there are nice boys/men out there like Quill who will go the extra mile to prove their faithfulness?

I don’t kno what’s more of a soap opera, the comic or the comments…….people…it’s JUST a comic !!!!!!!!!!!

So, anyone who disagrees with your opinion that Luann has a pig’s nose and is nothing but shallow, whereas Bernice can do no wrong, is ‘cattle’ according to you. You have the only original ideas. Anyone who has other ideas, by definition, is just parroting — or should I say ‘mooing’ — what others have already opined.

You have a very high opinion of yourself. Comments like those you made to Gerry Lee explain why no one shares your high opinion of you, and why you can’t convince anyone that Luann is horrible and Bernice is wonderful.

Trying to exchange ideas with you, to continue your animal motif, is like trying to teach a pot-belly pig to dance. It doesn’t work, and it only enrages the piggy.

Please consider a screen name more appropriate to your viewpoint.

Wow. We usually only get advised once a day that it is only a comic strip. I lost count today. I wonder how many sock puppets we’re being honored with.

Do like most everyone else, Read Comics, make comment, and ignore what everyone else has written. Simple.

Oh yeah, Quill got Tiff good!

hey Gunth. Grab a handful of something!

Antagonism is one of the basic tenets of entertainment in society. No story told goes without having some antagonist, some ne’er do well, some villain. They are an integral part of the story. Without the bad, how do you distinguish the good? And I don’t know too many people (none actually) that wouldn’t get bored into a catatonic stated without the push and pull of good and evil in their entertainment choices. Take all of Tiffany’s, Dirk’s, Ann’s, maybe even some of T.J’s scenes out of the strip, what would you be left with? Would you still enjoy it? Would it still move you enough to comment? Me, personally, no it wouldn’t. I’m old school. I root for the good guys but without the bad guys who would the good guys have to overcome?

She’s still far from getting what she deserves….Dirk perhaps?

As far as the supercilious comments about getting a life and that this is a comic strip, I would like to echo IamJayBluE and others’ comments. Why is it that I have to “get a life” if I want to engage in a lively conversation about my favorite comic strip? Do you not watch tv or read books or go to the movies? I can just imagine that you must only engage in the most intellectual of conversations at all times.

Blah, blah, blah…

What individual did I insult?

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A lot of people, by calling them cattle. Now you act like you don’t know what you did. Troll.

Take a vote. See how is pro TJ and who is anti TJ. Please, no neutrals, take a stand. When you get the tally, see how it adds up.

I Really dislike TJkensian., he’s a Dic

Hey Brd, don’t forget, it’s only a comic strip.

It’s all good. They’re teenagers and still growing up. Remember yourself as a teenager and how different you are now? I feel sorry for Tiffany because she doesn’t really know what she wants, though it’s pretty obvious that she is jealous of Luann. She doesn’t know how to express herself yet. I’m hoping that the next arc will feature a new guy and that he falls in love with Tiffany.

Tiffany needs a hug, just like Shannon.

well, Tiffany needs to transport herself from the comic pages to the real world, where she’d never be beaten out by a Luann, lol.

“She is intelligent and fun”^I also think that she helps us see different aspects of Luann… instead of thinking that Luann “could do no wrong”, or that “there’s only one way to look at things”, Bern seems to add a different take, and a funny response to both another character, and the situation (like during the “road trip”, or when Luann left herself open for their “zings” when she related that strange dream with Aaron and the “x-ray eyes”)

Ox, fine. TJ, no, no, a thousand times no. Les, no. Jonah, pretty please. Rosa’s visiting cousin, good plan. Elwood, OK. Gunther’s newly found half brother, could be. There are options for both summer flings and permanent possibilities available.

This only cartoon the author will write the script the way he or she want to so many take thiscartoon way to much like was real life I did not think some of you that stupid

Well, I’ll answer as soon as I get back….

These are comic strip characters, after all, which for the most part means they are “types”.

If you think commenters snipe here, you ought to read Funky Winkerbean & Crankshaft on Comics AZ. They are so bad that some have to be pulled. Not just snarky. Mean-spirited, attacking, aggressive.

I like all the characters in Luann, and Tiff and Ann are the gals we love to hate. Thbey are necessary to the script.

Do you realize this is only a comic don’t you?

“This is NOT a comic. It’s an ANIMATED SOAP !!!”.Animated?

Yeah, with that cover, it would seem that a lot of people may be searching for that planet, to “get lost” there, on purpose…..

Come to think of it, I know that "PennyRobinsonFanClub* would be interested to see this pic… .

Whoever said this, " I’m hoping that the next arc will feature a new guy and that he falls in love with Tiffany." I’m sorry but I lost you in the 200+ comments, but although I think this would be an amusing arc, I think it more likely an Elwood, say, would be a match for Tiffany where there is mutual benefits that have little to do with emotion.

ps. in all the back and forth today, I realize I love all the characters here and miss them all when gone too long.

Oh boo hoo Tiff.

“And who would he match? Ox and Tiffany or perhaps TJ and Tiffany.”^Well, I’ll humor you and engage in this question, (even if it is a “tongue in cheek" one), as it is more constructive than what went on earlier….I’ll answer this way:

Maybe for the first one, definitely for the second one… definitely no , that is….. ==Yesterday, I was mentioning that since TJ threw her “under the fire engine” and got away without a scratch, pretty much, why would she want someone like him, unless either her inner esteem is really lower than even the low that it would seem, or she would be one incredibly forgiving person….. or she has a very short memory…. with Oxford, like you’ve said, as the “jock” could be accepted in the “A” circles, so in that sense would fit into her ambitions somewhat, in maintaining status (though he has a big heart and not so much a big mind at times), and she seemed to genuinely appreciate his defense of her against Leslie….==But to be honest, if, as people are now wondering, if Gunther would play matchmaker, it just may be possible that another character could come about, whether temporary, or if she’s getting a long-term person…maybe another foil/antagonist for Luann and/or Quill… but before today, I didn’t consider that there would be any matchmaking going on… but this question is thought provoking, and constructive, compared to earlier….

Take a vote. See how is pro TJ and who is anti TJ. Please, no neutrals, take a stand. When you get the tally, see how it adds up.^^Im not pro or con, I think the TJ character is a jerk, but, I also find him very entertaining

Leviticus said, about 3 hours ago

To the many of you that have made the astute observation that this is only a comic strip, please allow me to respond. (Etc)^^Well said Lev, you’ve redeemed yourself a bit, here!

Answer#2: Been there, done that…^^I have every issue of the Innovation LIS series, it’s a real shame that the company went out of business before the last story ended…. now they are still lost, but, no longer together!

I made my comment this morning and went off to work. Now the day is almost done and I signed in for a break. everything made me laugh. all the comments were great and everyone here has a good sense of humor. Good points from some on just having fun.

everyone who reads and/or comments to this cartoon has their favorites. I like them all; mostly Luann, Oz, and Crystal. I think TJ is mysterious and not so bad a person.

I think that Tiff is a pig (without the snout). glad to see her get rejected finally…

I wonder if this conversation that Tiff and G-man are having will only go this far, or is this the “wheels of the plot” gently stirring the arc into another gear?…..

Ummm…. She fired Zane cause she wanted Bernice for herself, remember?

Well yes I do. I think that Ann may have wanted them both. She realized as long as the two of them were together, she would always be on the outside looking in. She finally chose Bernice over Zane.^^interesting theory, and I suppose plausible, since we know Ann “goes both ways”

No problem with somebody liking Tiffany — I didn’t like the trashing of Luann. I don’t think Luann is mean-spirited at all and tho I think she sometimes can be rude and even offensive, she shows that she is learning the “rules” of civility that every teen eventually needs to learn.

So how could the writer display Bernice’s interesting attributes? Please make that list. Tomorrow would be fine.^^Just read any story arc featuring Bernice before Zane left her… since then, Bern has generally been as fun as a toothache, but, before then, she was a great character with a much more well-rounded personality, than she appears to be now.

It would be a shame to end this at 249 posts so…. here’s 250! :p

Well, for a time earlier (especially yesterday), I thought GL would have been able to see that there was some encouraging comments…. GL would definitely not have enjoyed the comments today… GL was just as discouraged about the posts as much about the “anti-Tiff”… GL really wanted to see some more positivity….

It seems like the strip has missed out on some opportunities with this drama camp plotline. After three weeks of strips, the only people who have been shown at the camp are Quill, Tiffany, Gunther, and the camp director. None of the other campers have had a word of dialogue. We’re just seeing the regular characters interact with people they already know well. This sequence could have been a good opportunity for them (especially Tiffany) to meet new people who could either be friends or rivals to them, but instead it’s just the same small group in a different location.

Ben and Crystal might be cool together. Especially since Crystal already has an awkward history with Bernice over Zane. Did I say a couple days ago that Ben was too dull for Crystal? I guess I lack consistency. Also, I like Crystal and Knute together, so I’m being a bit inconsistent there too.

I don’t usually comment, but this seems to be “open mike night.” (love the give and take dialog by the way) Some have lamented on what seems to be Bernice’s dwindling appearances. Looking back when I was in high school, it seems that most of us didn’t have exactly the same circle of friends when we graduated as we had walking in the door as freshman. The person I had as a best friend chose a different path our senior year, thus beginning our separation. We all know in life things change and evolve, people take those other paths. Maybe this is what’s happening with Luann and Bernice. They are changing and maturing (hopefully), so their needs for friendship change as well. And maybe this is just a different angle….

Ooh! What about Tiffany and Ann? We don’t really have much in the way of evidence that Tiffany would not be interested, and together they might be a viable menace.

Gunther is such a sweetheart. He’ll get it out of her. She has a deep need. It will be nice to see the deeper side of her. She reminds me of Nelly on Little House on the Prairie. She just needed the right guy. Tiffany needs someone who will look past her facade. Even her best friend doesn’t know that part of her.

Hoping tomorrow’s a better day for everybody!….

“Brad is virgin. I state this and people say that once TJ said “shower” and that is their proof that he is not.”-We can assume he is or that he is not.We don’t really know without being told.Well, like so many other things in life, we know without any proof, often with proof our beliefs are wrong,but that doesn’t stop us from believing.

" I’ll NEVER find anything funny about that sickening action"-Quite possibly they were serious.Some get lost in their minds.

When you have a character who constantly objectifies herself and diminishes herself into scantily-clad beauty, then she is the one who had cheapened herself. Others are just pointing that out, not ‘hating on her for no reason.’

Gunther is so sweet…

I wonder how sad is Tiffany’s family life. Probably her parents don’t love her. Poor thing.