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Jean Harlow (1930ās movie star) once mispronounced someoneās name. The person explained that one letter in his name was silent, ālike the ātā in āHarlowāā.
Iāve got a list around here somewhere (probably on one of the old digital assistants I donāt use any more) of words that are examples of every single letter of the alphabet being silent. Two or three of them are a bit of a stretch (for V, thereās a dialect in which āfivepenceā is pronounced āfippenceā).
Huh. TIL. Apparently the ālā was deliberately added by analogy with the ālā in should/would (which, coming from āshallā and āwillā have stems including the ālā, which was previously pronounced).
Itās as artificial as Noah Websterās reforms, in other words (which, as a Brit, are mildly irksome, of course ā but at least they made sense in context).
The spelling of the many of the words that now seem oddly spelled compared to how they are pronounced was established several centuries ago when English was pronounced with what weād now think is a thick Scottish burr. So many of the now silent letters and oddball spellings were, at the time, actually pronounced. For instance, the ārightā was actually pronounced something like āricght.ā Once again, itās HISTORY, folks!
And you donāt pronounce the P in āpsychiatristā, the K in āknifeā, or the T in āfiletā. Also, why donāt ācoughā, āboughā, āroughā and āthoughā all rhyme?
Would is a variant of Willed where the ou is same as German o umlaut which sounds like the i of willed so the L was pronounced at one time several centuries ago.
And it probably only has an L because āshouldā and āwouldā do, and it sort of transferred. Should and would take the L from Anglo-Saxon (sceoldan and wolde, shall and will). Could doesnāt, the L was added.
Spelling in American English is crazy. Far too many words are not spelled anything like they are pronounced. Took me a year to learn to read and write Korean as spelling is phonetic, spelled exactly the same as the words are pronounced. v 12 years of being taught American English and still having to look up words to find out how they are spelled
The people that drive me up the wall are the ones who pronounce the āhā in words that begin with āwhā, but put it before the āwā! Hwatās up with THAT!
If he wants to do rants on English language weirdness, he can spend the next few years doing a rat version of George Carlin. English is not only richer from older languages and many invasions, it is also weirder.
When I was little I was so mad at silent e which I kept forgetting in spelling that I drew the evil letter behind bars taking up a whole notebook page and wishing I could do worse to it.
I read somewhere that all those letters we have in various words that are āsilentā used to NOT be silent way way back in the day several hundred years ago.
Silent letters do serve a purpose; They help to distinguish between homophones (words with the same sound but different spellings and meanings) in writing. Thanks to silent letters, you can know the difference between two, to, and too.
BE THIS GUY about 3 years ago
Hate to see Rat walk away half out of his mind. Hopefully, he will calm down.
BasilBruce about 3 years ago
Pig has āwoud,ā and heās standing behind a fence. Coincidence?
Templo S.U.D. about 3 years ago
Oh, the wonders of English phonetics.
sirbadger about 3 years ago
Would āCoudā rhyme with Wood or Loud? Would āWouldā sound like Wood or Wowed?
Bilan about 3 years ago
If you did pronounce the L, would it sound like cowled?
rogthedodge1 about 3 years ago
Jean Harlow (1930ās movie star) once mispronounced someoneās name. The person explained that one letter in his name was silent, ālike the ātā in āHarlowāā.
Uncle Kenny about 3 years ago
Though the tough cough and hicough, they do it thoroughly.
ronaldspence about 3 years ago
Silent letters are wasteā¦most certainly!
MichaelAxelFleming about 3 years ago
Get the L out of here!
Jesy Bertz Premium Member about 3 years ago
No Goat, you shoud have argued.
dadoctah about 3 years ago
Iāve got a list around here somewhere (probably on one of the old digital assistants I donāt use any more) of words that are examples of every single letter of the alphabet being silent. Two or three of them are a bit of a stretch (for V, thereās a dialect in which āfivepenceā is pronounced āfippenceā).
B UTTONS about 3 years ago
Rat is about to make a PUBIC statement
matjestaet about 3 years ago
Should rather read ācoundā, with a silent "n"ā¦.
jessie d. about 3 years ago
if a woodchuck could chuck woud.
Doug K about 3 years ago
Not pronouncing the āLā? Thatās not gould. There shood be a law.
unfair.de about 3 years ago
Hey Rat, ever tried to learn French?
iggyman about 3 years ago
Move the L a little bit and you have cloud!
fredd13 about 3 years ago
Huh. TIL. Apparently the ālā was deliberately added by analogy with the ālā in should/would (which, coming from āshallā and āwillā have stems including the ālā, which was previously pronounced).
Itās as artificial as Noah Websterās reforms, in other words (which, as a Brit, are mildly irksome, of course ā but at least they made sense in context).
AndreasMartin about 3 years ago
You should realllly have said something.
Hugh B. Hayve about 3 years ago
Wouda, shouda, coudaā¦
SNVBD about 3 years ago
Shoud he? I woud if I coud.
Gent about 3 years ago
Fortunately we has only phonetic langauages. AngrƩji very confusing.
AndreasMartin about 3 years ago
I wonder what he would do if he found out thereās this place called āWorcesterāā¦.
juicebruce about 3 years ago
Rat you look constipated ! Take some Ex ā lax ;-)
ozed about 3 years ago
And then thereās āsolder.ā Why in the world would anyone not pronounce the ālā in that? Americans, Iām looking at you.
Alexander the Good Enough about 3 years ago
The spelling of the many of the words that now seem oddly spelled compared to how they are pronounced was established several centuries ago when English was pronounced with what weād now think is a thick Scottish burr. So many of the now silent letters and oddball spellings were, at the time, actually pronounced. For instance, the ārightā was actually pronounced something like āricght.ā Once again, itās HISTORY, folks!
Purple People Eater about 3 years ago
And you donāt pronounce the P in āpsychiatristā, the K in āknifeā, or the T in āfiletā. Also, why donāt ācoughā, āboughā, āroughā and āthoughā all rhyme?
Jeffin Premium Member about 3 years ago
I wood knot too.
Simon Seamount about 3 years ago
Would is a variant of Willed where the ou is same as German o umlaut which sounds like the i of willed so the L was pronounced at one time several centuries ago.
Count Olaf Premium Member about 3 years ago
So is he saying Get the L Out of There? Very possible.
BlueNAL about 3 years ago
I have great respect and pity for ESL speakers.
F-Flash about 3 years ago
Rotsa Ruck !
Ignatz Premium Member about 3 years ago
And it probably only has an L because āshouldā and āwouldā do, and it sort of transferred. Should and would take the L from Anglo-Saxon (sceoldan and wolde, shall and will). Could doesnāt, the L was added.
SALUDADOG about 3 years ago
What a knot head!
Ellis97 about 3 years ago
Even the silent letters arenāt safe from Ratās petty complaining.
Znox11 about 3 years ago
Starting today I will be pronouncing the āLā in those wordsā¦who is with me? We can start a movement.
Gameguy49 Premium Member about 3 years ago
In ācouldā the āLā is silent. Just like the word Queue which is a āQā followed by four silent letters.
timbob2313 Premium Member about 3 years ago
Spelling in American English is crazy. Far too many words are not spelled anything like they are pronounced. Took me a year to learn to read and write Korean as spelling is phonetic, spelled exactly the same as the words are pronounced. v 12 years of being taught American English and still having to look up words to find out how they are spelled
rshive about 3 years ago
Goat wood have been wrong if he had argued.
HunterIsACriminal about 3 years ago
I pronounce it in my mind. It makes the tinfoil rattle.
kartis about 3 years ago
I donāt know what the L is going on here.
tom.amitai about 3 years ago
The people that drive me up the wall are the ones who pronounce the āhā in words that begin with āwhā, but put it before the āwā! Hwatās up with THAT!
bigplayray about 3 years ago
I live for live concerts!
Zebrastripes about 3 years ago
Always protestingā¦..no wonder heās always looking for answers
rickseg about 3 years ago
And then thereās French. Good luck with that!
petermerck about 3 years ago
And what about colonel and kernel.
Huckleberry Hiroshima Premium Member about 3 years ago
English is not a phonetic language. Helpful hint.
marilynnbyerly about 3 years ago
If he wants to do rants on English language weirdness, he can spend the next few years doing a rat version of George Carlin. English is not only richer from older languages and many invasions, it is also weirder.
awcoffman about 3 years ago
A very gould question, Goat.
Publius10608218 about 3 years ago
When I was little I was so mad at silent e which I kept forgetting in spelling that I drew the evil letter behind bars taking up a whole notebook page and wishing I could do worse to it.
Goat from PBS about 3 years ago
No one pronounces the āpā is words like āraspberryā, āpsychicā, and āpterodactylā, either. Maybe someone should.
stamps about 3 years ago
Ask him to pronounce Featherstonehaugh.
JustMe about 3 years ago
I read somewhere that all those letters we have in various words that are āsilentā used to NOT be silent way way back in the day several hundred years ago.
greenlynn Premium Member about 3 years ago
Give āem L, Rat
FassEddie about 3 years ago
If we pronounced the āLā, weād sound like sheep herders talking about shearing.
198.23.5.11 about 3 years ago
Victor Borgeā¦Phoenetic Punctuation!
raybarb44 about 3 years ago
I agree. Heās crazyā¦.
cactusbob333 about 3 years ago
Thereās Noel in Christmas. Is that a paradox?
christelisbetty about 3 years ago
Rat, it is better to remain silent, and be thought a foolā¦ā¦.
flying spaghetti monster about 3 years ago
Dr Seussās The Tough Coughs as he Ploughs the Dough
mpolo11 Premium Member about 3 years ago
Comments today r gold. Thanks to all.
SteveR405 about 3 years ago
As a native Bostonian, I feel that way about almost every āRā in 90% of the words.
[Unnamed Reader - c91c61] about 3 years ago
Waiting for Rat to discover Psy- words
martin510 about 3 years ago
And no one pronounces the āoā,either
Ka`ÅnÅhi`ula`okahÅkÅ«miomio`ehiku Premium Member about 3 years ago
So clever, Steven.
Eric S about 3 years ago
This reminds me of the time Pearls ran out of " iii " ās ā¦ :D
smorbie the great and beautiful about 3 years ago
Look how cute Rat is when heās angry. Iāve never noticed that before.
Buoy about 3 years ago
No know.
Cerabooge about 3 years ago
Good thing Rat didnāt grow up in LlanfairĀpwllgwyngyllĀgogeryĀchwyrnĀdrobwllĀllanĀtysilioĀgogoĀgoch.
susanj77 about 3 years ago
French would drive him fully out of his mind.
Sailor46 USN 65-95 about 3 years ago
RWill about 3 years ago
Iām angry over the abominaton that is ācould ofā.
Sisyphos about 3 years ago
Coulda, Shoulda, Wou[l]da. The New Three Stooges, with Pig as the prime targetā¦.
AndrewSharpe about 3 years ago
Shoud have done this one on Christmas. Noel.
Darryl Heine about 3 years ago
NO L? Oh wellā¦
daking27 about 3 years ago
This makes a goold point.
gsteele531 about 3 years ago
Goatās question needed to be āShoud I have argued?ā
alantain about 1 year ago
What the L was that about?
Ninette 10 months ago
Should Goat of argued?