Jean Harlow (1930’s movie star) once mispronounced someone’s name. The person explained that one letter in his name was silent, “like the ‘t’ in ‘Harlow’”.
I’ve got a list around here somewhere (probably on one of the old digital assistants I don’t use any more) of words that are examples of every single letter of the alphabet being silent. Two or three of them are a bit of a stretch (for V, there’s a dialect in which “fivepence” is pronounced “fippence”).
Huh. TIL. Apparently the “l” was deliberately added by analogy with the “l” in should/would (which, coming from “shall” and “will” have stems including the “l”, which was previously pronounced).
It’s as artificial as Noah Webster’s reforms, in other words (which, as a Brit, are mildly irksome, of course – but at least they made sense in context).
The spelling of the many of the words that now seem oddly spelled compared to how they are pronounced was established several centuries ago when English was pronounced with what we’d now think is a thick Scottish burr. So many of the now silent letters and oddball spellings were, at the time, actually pronounced. For instance, the “right” was actually pronounced something like “ricght.” Once again, it’s HISTORY, folks!
And you don’t pronounce the P in “psychiatrist”, the K in “knife”, or the T in “filet”. Also, why don’t “cough”, “bough”, “rough” and “though” all rhyme?
Would is a variant of Willed where the ou is same as German o umlaut which sounds like the i of willed so the L was pronounced at one time several centuries ago.
And it probably only has an L because “should” and “would” do, and it sort of transferred. Should and would take the L from Anglo-Saxon (sceoldan and wolde, shall and will). Could doesn’t, the L was added.
Spelling in American English is crazy. Far too many words are not spelled anything like they are pronounced. Took me a year to learn to read and write Korean as spelling is phonetic, spelled exactly the same as the words are pronounced. v 12 years of being taught American English and still having to look up words to find out how they are spelled
If he wants to do rants on English language weirdness, he can spend the next few years doing a rat version of George Carlin. English is not only richer from older languages and many invasions, it is also weirder.
When I was little I was so mad at silent e which I kept forgetting in spelling that I drew the evil letter behind bars taking up a whole notebook page and wishing I could do worse to it.
I read somewhere that all those letters we have in various words that are “silent” used to NOT be silent way way back in the day several hundred years ago.
Silent letters do serve a purpose; They help to distinguish between homophones (words with the same sound but different spellings and meanings) in writing. Thanks to silent letters, you can know the difference between two, to, and too.
BE THIS GUY almost 3 years ago
Hate to see Rat walk away half out of his mind. Hopefully, he will calm down.
BasilBruce almost 3 years ago
Pig has “woud,” and he’s standing behind a fence. Coincidence?
Templo S.U.D. almost 3 years ago
Oh, the wonders of English phonetics.
sirbadger almost 3 years ago
Would “Coud” rhyme with Wood or Loud? Would “Would” sound like Wood or Wowed?
Bilan almost 3 years ago
If you did pronounce the L, would it sound like cowled?
rogthedodge1 almost 3 years ago
Jean Harlow (1930’s movie star) once mispronounced someone’s name. The person explained that one letter in his name was silent, “like the ‘t’ in ‘Harlow’”.
Uncle Kenny almost 3 years ago
Though the tough cough and hicough, they do it thoroughly.
ronaldspence almost 3 years ago
Silent letters are waste…most certainly!
MichaelAxelFleming almost 3 years ago
Get the L out of here!
Jesy Bertz Premium Member almost 3 years ago
No Goat, you shoud have argued.
dadoctah almost 3 years ago
I’ve got a list around here somewhere (probably on one of the old digital assistants I don’t use any more) of words that are examples of every single letter of the alphabet being silent. Two or three of them are a bit of a stretch (for V, there’s a dialect in which “fivepence” is pronounced “fippence”).
B UTTONS almost 3 years ago
Rat is about to make a PUBIC statement
matjestaet almost 3 years ago
Should rather read “cound”, with a silent "n"….
jessie d. almost 3 years ago
if a woodchuck could chuck woud.
Doug K almost 3 years ago
Not pronouncing the “L”? That’s not gould. There shood be a law.
unfair.de almost 3 years ago
Hey Rat, ever tried to learn French?
iggyman almost 3 years ago
Move the L a little bit and you have cloud!
fredd13 almost 3 years ago
Huh. TIL. Apparently the “l” was deliberately added by analogy with the “l” in should/would (which, coming from “shall” and “will” have stems including the “l”, which was previously pronounced).
It’s as artificial as Noah Webster’s reforms, in other words (which, as a Brit, are mildly irksome, of course – but at least they made sense in context).
AndreasMartin almost 3 years ago
You should realllly have said something.
Hugh B. Hayve almost 3 years ago
Wouda, shouda, couda…
SNVBD almost 3 years ago
Shoud he? I woud if I coud.
Gent almost 3 years ago
Fortunately we has only phonetic langauages. Angréji very confusing.
AndreasMartin almost 3 years ago
I wonder what he would do if he found out there’s this place called ‘Worcester’….
juicebruce almost 3 years ago
Rat you look constipated ! Take some Ex – lax ;-)
ozed almost 3 years ago
And then there’s “solder.” Why in the world would anyone not pronounce the “l” in that? Americans, I’m looking at you.
Alexander the Good Enough almost 3 years ago
The spelling of the many of the words that now seem oddly spelled compared to how they are pronounced was established several centuries ago when English was pronounced with what we’d now think is a thick Scottish burr. So many of the now silent letters and oddball spellings were, at the time, actually pronounced. For instance, the “right” was actually pronounced something like “ricght.” Once again, it’s HISTORY, folks!
Purple People Eater almost 3 years ago
And you don’t pronounce the P in “psychiatrist”, the K in “knife”, or the T in “filet”. Also, why don’t “cough”, “bough”, “rough” and “though” all rhyme?
Jeffin Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I wood knot too.
Simon Seamount almost 3 years ago
Would is a variant of Willed where the ou is same as German o umlaut which sounds like the i of willed so the L was pronounced at one time several centuries ago.
Count Olaf Premium Member almost 3 years ago
So is he saying Get the L Out of There? Very possible.
BlueNAL almost 3 years ago
I have great respect and pity for ESL speakers.
F-Flash almost 3 years ago
Rotsa Ruck !
Croc Holliday almost 3 years ago
English is weird. ghoti = fish.
Ignatz Premium Member almost 3 years ago
And it probably only has an L because “should” and “would” do, and it sort of transferred. Should and would take the L from Anglo-Saxon (sceoldan and wolde, shall and will). Could doesn’t, the L was added.
SALUDADOG almost 3 years ago
What a knot head!
Ellis97 almost 3 years ago
Even the silent letters aren’t safe from Rat’s petty complaining.
Znox11 almost 3 years ago
Starting today I will be pronouncing the “L” in those words…who is with me? We can start a movement.
Gameguy49 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
In “could” the “L” is silent. Just like the word Queue which is a “Q” followed by four silent letters.
timbob2313 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Spelling in American English is crazy. Far too many words are not spelled anything like they are pronounced. Took me a year to learn to read and write Korean as spelling is phonetic, spelled exactly the same as the words are pronounced. v 12 years of being taught American English and still having to look up words to find out how they are spelled
rshive almost 3 years ago
Goat wood have been wrong if he had argued.
HunterIsACriminal almost 3 years ago
I pronounce it in my mind. It makes the tinfoil rattle.
kartis almost 3 years ago
I don’t know what the L is going on here.
tom.amitai almost 3 years ago
The people that drive me up the wall are the ones who pronounce the “h” in words that begin with “wh”, but put it before the “w”! Hwat’s up with THAT!
bigplayray almost 3 years ago
I live for live concerts!
Zebrastripes almost 3 years ago
Always protesting…..no wonder he’s always looking for answers
rickseg almost 3 years ago
And then there’s French. Good luck with that!
petermerck almost 3 years ago
And what about colonel and kernel.
Huckleberry Hiroshima almost 3 years ago
English is not a phonetic language. Helpful hint.
marilynnbyerly almost 3 years ago
If he wants to do rants on English language weirdness, he can spend the next few years doing a rat version of George Carlin. English is not only richer from older languages and many invasions, it is also weirder.
awcoffman almost 3 years ago
A very gould question, Goat.
Publius10608218 almost 3 years ago
When I was little I was so mad at silent e which I kept forgetting in spelling that I drew the evil letter behind bars taking up a whole notebook page and wishing I could do worse to it.
Goat from PBS almost 3 years ago
No one pronounces the “p” is words like “raspberry”, “psychic”, and “pterodactyl”, either. Maybe someone should.
stamps almost 3 years ago
Ask him to pronounce Featherstonehaugh.
JustMe almost 3 years ago
I read somewhere that all those letters we have in various words that are “silent” used to NOT be silent way way back in the day several hundred years ago.
greenlynn Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Give ’em L, Rat
FassEddie almost 3 years ago
If we pronounced the “L”, we’d sound like sheep herders talking about shearing.
198.23.5.11 almost 3 years ago
Victor Borge…Phoenetic Punctuation!
raybarb44 almost 3 years ago
I agree. He’s crazy….
cactusbob333 almost 3 years ago
There’s Noel in Christmas. Is that a paradox?
christelisbetty almost 3 years ago
Rat, it is better to remain silent, and be thought a fool…….
flying spaghetti monster almost 3 years ago
Dr Seuss’s The Tough Coughs as he Ploughs the Dough
mpolo11 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Comments today r gold. Thanks to all.
SteveR405 almost 3 years ago
As a native Bostonian, I feel that way about almost every “R” in 90% of the words.
[Unnamed Reader - c91c61] almost 3 years ago
Waiting for Rat to discover Psy- words
martin510 almost 3 years ago
And no one pronounces the ‘o’,either
Ka`ōnōhi`ula`okahōkūmiomio`ehiku Premium Member almost 3 years ago
So clever, Steven.
Eric S almost 3 years ago
This reminds me of the time Pearls ran out of " iii " ’s … :D
smorbie the great and beautiful almost 3 years ago
Look how cute Rat is when he’s angry. I’ve never noticed that before.
Buoy almost 3 years ago
No know.
Cerabooge almost 3 years ago
Good thing Rat didn’t grow up in Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
susanj77 almost 3 years ago
French would drive him fully out of his mind.
Sailor46 USN 65-95 almost 3 years ago
RWill almost 3 years ago
I’m angry over the abominaton that is “could of”.
Sisyphos almost 3 years ago
Coulda, Shoulda, Wou[l]da. The New Three Stooges, with Pig as the prime target….
AndrewSharpe almost 3 years ago
Shoud have done this one on Christmas. Noel.
Darryl Heine almost 3 years ago
NO L? Oh well…
daking27 almost 3 years ago
This makes a goold point.
gsteele531 almost 3 years ago
Goat’s question needed to be “Shoud I have argued?”
alantain 10 months ago
What the L was that about?
Ninette 7 months ago
Should Goat of argued?