Snerk. I had a short discussion elsewhere at G.C. with someone who said that in 2016 Trump wasn’t “electable” because when THEY use a word, it means precisely what they want it to mean neither more nor less, and THEY mean “worthy to be elected” when THEY use that word.
It’s likely that they (and their recent ancestors) would not have known of time when this glacier wasn’t pretty much there (in the world as the knew it) doing what it was doing then, so why would any of them consider an ice age theory?
True story, that. Due to unusually warm ocean waters upwind of Greenland, the Greenland glacier gained mass for two years in a row. Scientists who discovered this were surprised, and said this might mean that they didn’t know as much about how glaciers work, in relation to thermal energy in the environment, as they had supposed.
We like to say seeing is believing, the only problem is that we refuse to see what we don’t want to see.
There is a quote in James Mitchner’s Space that goes something like “The reason that the Dark Ages were dark was not because there was no light, but because people refused to see the light that was there.”
Let’s do what we can to not enter another Dark Age.
Science is often wrong. That’s really what makes it science. When asked how he came up with the right way to make a working incandescent light bulb, Thomas Edison replied by learning a thousand ways to do it wrong.
I’ll leave the argument of climate change to the experts, what I really want is clean water, clean land and clean air. Hope that’s not too much to ask.
Just think the shape our planet would now be in if there had been ozone hole deniers who managed to forestall legislation which reduced CFC emissions.
(if you want to rest comfortably tonight, don’t google “CFC ozone” & forget you ever heard about existential AGW global warming — or just continue to believe it is nothing but “fake news” spread by Big Science)
Imagine how many crippled people, and the number confined in iron lungs, there’d presently be if vaccine denialism had been as rampant in the 1950’s as it is in the 2020’s.
Remember the Battle of Stalingrad during WW2? The German juggernaut ran into a ferocious rear-guard action from the Soviet defenders who battled street by street, block by block, building by building, always moving back only a notch before fighting even more fiercely from the next fortified position behind them. The battle had a foregone conclusion, but that didn’t stop the fanatical defenders from laying down the last Russian life over the last centimetre of Stalingrad.
So it has been with climate-change deniers. Each week their commissars pass down the latest rallying cries, which are faithfully, frequently, and loudly chanted by the troops each time they’re forced to move back another next block. Here’s a sampling:
What’s global warming?
There is no global warming.
You’re making that up.
That’s a hoax.
That’s the biggest hoax ever perpetrated.
There’s a conspiracy to promote this stupid hoax.
Sure, there are seasonal fluctuations. So what?
We’ve had long stretches of abnormally warm weather before.
What makes you think the glaciers are retreating?
Well, that’s not ALL glaciers.
OK, nice photos, but the polar ice cap hasn’t budged.
Are you going to listen to those crazy tree-hugging alarmists?
That wasn’t what those very same scientists said 5 years ago.
Look at these e-mails where the conspirators discussed their research.
Scores of climatologists disagree.
It’s not as bad as they’re claiming.
So there’s open water in the Arctic; Greenland’s still all ice.
It’s going to take a long time to be noticeable.
The UN. Aren’t those the black-helicopter guys?
What difference will it make to the average joe?
It’s not QUITE as bad as they’re claiming.
Dozens of climatologists disagree.
Solar cycle.
The polar ice cap grew ALMOST all the way back this winter.
Well, since the Earth was “created” only a few thousand years ago, I guess he might consider that the Ice Age(s) were just a hoax. Despite the evidence.
saobadao almost 2 years ago
Far Side comic strip years ago “Say Thag…..wall of ice closer today?” Both funny!
sirbadger almost 2 years ago
Before reading the caption, I thought that he was selling real estate that will be valuable 1000 years from now.
Erse IS better almost 2 years ago
Snerk. I had a short discussion elsewhere at G.C. with someone who said that in 2016 Trump wasn’t “electable” because when THEY use a word, it means precisely what they want it to mean neither more nor less, and THEY mean “worthy to be elected” when THEY use that word.
eastern.woods.metal almost 2 years ago
Must be Republicans
Izzy Moreno almost 2 years ago
If only they had been more environmentally conscious, they could have stopped the planet from freezing over, and perhaps even survive.
sandpiper almost 2 years ago
Denial hasn’t changed. It is still the sand in the gears.
Doug K almost 2 years ago
It’s likely that they (and their recent ancestors) would not have known of time when this glacier wasn’t pretty much there (in the world as the knew it) doing what it was doing then, so why would any of them consider an ice age theory?
JosephShriver almost 2 years ago
So, did the ice age suddenly happen or gradually ove time
comixbomix almost 2 years ago
I suppose that might be a magalacier…?
PraiseofFolly almost 2 years ago
“Glacier” than what?
Masterskrain almost 2 years ago
T. Ugg. Carlson, great, great, great X50 times grandfather of Ftucker KKKarlson.
Count Olaf Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Global warming strikes again
Brass Orchid Premium Member almost 2 years ago
True story, that. Due to unusually warm ocean waters upwind of Greenland, the Greenland glacier gained mass for two years in a row. Scientists who discovered this were surprised, and said this might mean that they didn’t know as much about how glaciers work, in relation to thermal energy in the environment, as they had supposed.
Nobody ever heard from them again.
oldchas almost 2 years ago
I’ve wasted too much time watching glacier calving videos. My first thought was “They’re too close.”
Free or Not? Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Yup, that ice age was a man made phenomenon. Just like global warming…oh wait. Nope. Climate change is NATURAL!!!
dflak almost 2 years ago
Science is changing your theory to fit the facts.
Politics is denying the facts to preserve your theory.
This should help you decide which party is anti-science and which party is woke.
DM2860 almost 2 years ago
“And it is all caused by the fact that we are not burning enough trees”
pixiekitten Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Hey look it’s Ben Shapiro’s ancestor.
MS72 almost 2 years ago
Well, that clears up one question. Now, who dug the Great Lakes?
jconnors3954 almost 2 years ago
Climate is constantly changing.
Diat60 almost 2 years ago
It may be a hoax but it might be a good idea to pack a bag or two and head south.
goboboyd almost 2 years ago
The Coming Ice Age – Carl Sagan.
watcheratthewell almost 2 years ago
And here we are ~50,000 years later & it’s warming – for the 21st time in a row in the last 2.1 million years.
[Traveler] Premium Member almost 2 years ago
I’m sure man caused it
mfrasca almost 2 years ago
E pur si muove.
KEA almost 2 years ago
People can stand at the shore with water up to their knees and tell you tides are hoax.
David_the_CAD almost 2 years ago
We like to say seeing is believing, the only problem is that we refuse to see what we don’t want to see.
There is a quote in James Mitchner’s Space that goes something like “The reason that the Dark Ages were dark was not because there was no light, but because people refused to see the light that was there.”
Let’s do what we can to not enter another Dark Age.
198.23.5.11 almost 2 years ago
“And 10 trillion years from now,when scientists discover all the valuable dinosaur skeletons,the property values around here are SURE to go up!”
Bookworm almost 2 years ago
Science is often wrong. That’s really what makes it science. When asked how he came up with the right way to make a working incandescent light bulb, Thomas Edison replied by learning a thousand ways to do it wrong.
A Hip loving Canadian... almost 2 years ago
I’ll leave the argument of climate change to the experts, what I really want is clean water, clean land and clean air. Hope that’s not too much to ask.
walkingmancomics almost 2 years ago
why does this seem so strangely familiar?
mindjob almost 2 years ago
Same old arguments. No one can convince anyone to change opinions, but keep trying
Daeder almost 2 years ago
Sad how modern people still choose to act like cavepeople.
jtt almost 2 years ago
Technically, we’re still in an ice age. This is just a (geologically speaking) brief interstadial. Enjoy the warmies while you can.
happyinvenice23 almost 2 years ago
The first republicant!
Ren Rodee almost 2 years ago
And we know how well that worked for them
Pisces almost 2 years ago
LOL ………. good one, Wiley. It does seem as though we’re living history over and over again!
T Smith almost 2 years ago
“Old punditry?”
That’s a regular plank on the Repub Party platform… when they even have a platform.
lsnrchrd.1 Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Just think the shape our planet would now be in if there had been ozone hole deniers who managed to forestall legislation which reduced CFC emissions.
(if you want to rest comfortably tonight, don’t google “CFC ozone” & forget you ever heard about existential AGW global warming — or just continue to believe it is nothing but “fake news” spread by Big Science)Imagine how many crippled people, and the number confined in iron lungs, there’d presently be if vaccine denialism had been as rampant in the 1950’s as it is in the 2020’s.
mistercatworks almost 2 years ago
Six inches a year. Why should I worry? /s
Richard S Russell Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Remember the Battle of Stalingrad during WW2? The German juggernaut ran into a ferocious rear-guard action from the Soviet defenders who battled street by street, block by block, building by building, always moving back only a notch before fighting even more fiercely from the next fortified position behind them. The battle had a foregone conclusion, but that didn’t stop the fanatical defenders from laying down the last Russian life over the last centimetre of Stalingrad.
So it has been with climate-change deniers. Each week their commissars pass down the latest rallying cries, which are faithfully, frequently, and loudly chanted by the troops each time they’re forced to move back another next block. Here’s a sampling:
What’s global warming?
There is no global warming.
You’re making that up.
That’s a hoax.
That’s the biggest hoax ever perpetrated.
There’s a conspiracy to promote this stupid hoax.
Sure, there are seasonal fluctuations. So what?
We’ve had long stretches of abnormally warm weather before.
What makes you think the glaciers are retreating?
Well, that’s not ALL glaciers.
OK, nice photos, but the polar ice cap hasn’t budged.
Are you going to listen to those crazy tree-hugging alarmists?
That wasn’t what those very same scientists said 5 years ago.
Look at these e-mails where the conspirators discussed their research.
Scores of climatologists disagree.
It’s not as bad as they’re claiming.
So there’s open water in the Arctic; Greenland’s still all ice.
It’s going to take a long time to be noticeable.
The UN. Aren’t those the black-helicopter guys?
What difference will it make to the average joe?
It’s not QUITE as bad as they’re claiming.
Dozens of climatologists disagree.
Solar cycle.
The polar ice cap grew ALMOST all the way back this winter.
We’ll have centuries to get ready.
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LeslieAnn Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Love the artwork on the Early Science guy.
keenanthelibrarian almost 2 years ago
Well, since the Earth was “created” only a few thousand years ago, I guess he might consider that the Ice Age(s) were just a hoax. Despite the evidence.
DaBump Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Yeah. Now, if only I could see such dramatic evidence of global warming or climate change or whatever. It is always causing problems someplace else.