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When I was growing up, if you wanted coffee you made it yourself or you bought it at a cafe or diner. And it cost⊠about 10% of an hourâs wages, for an entry level employee, more or less. Now, $tarbuck$ makes it so itâs full of fancy calories and costs closer to 35% (even 50%) of an hourâs wages. As far as I can see, this is a losing proposition for the customers, but they seem to be⊠addicted.
I went to Starbucks a couple of times about 20 years ago. In those days in my S. European city strong rich coffee was the norm in any corner place. Starbucks coffee was neither, which they made up for with fancy syrups and flavourings and whipped cream and sprinkles. I objected to not being able to see behind the counterâwhat is it they donât want you to see? And then those superhigh prices, for a paper cup with your name scrawled on it? You can still get coffee in the corner places but itâs not as strong now; the under 40s want everything âmildâ in flavour, and prefer sugary âenergy drinksâ to honest espresso. But at least in the corner places you still get your coffee in a cup, or in many, a glass.
You go to the store and grab a bag of potato chips that costs $3. You go to the cash register and hand the cashier $1. They say âThat costs $3â and you respond âI know, but I only want to pay $1â. If they refuse to sell it to you, it doesnât mean thereâs a âpotato chip shortageâ. When a company says âpeople donât want to workâ, what they actually mean is âpeople donât want to work for us for what weâre willing to pay.â
They opened a starbucks by us only because we are an exit off the interstate. Ranchers and working people. Itâs not always open. They canât find enough people who want to work there.
When you think about it going out for coffee is a cheaper alternative than going shopping for ANYTHING or going to the movies. Itâs a small luxury most can still afford. Breakfast costs what going out to lunch used to cost, lunch costs what going out to dinner was.. dinner has smaller and smaller portions and larger and larger pricesâŠand I feel so sorry for Californians filling up their gas tanks.
Whatâs weird is that they think of themselves as capitalists, but donât seem to understand that the labor market works by supply and demand, like everything else. If thereâs a shortage of labor, that makes labor worth more, and you have to pay more for it.
And if a worker isnât making enough to pay his bills, he might as well try some kind of self-employment, since the âjobâ you âgiveâ him doesnât do the minimum thing that he needs a job for.
Circle K is giving away one free cup of coffee of any size through its app until October 2, with the offer valid at more than 7,000 US locations.
Dunkinâ is offering members of its loyalty program, Dunkinâ Rewards, a free medium hot or iced coffee with any purchase on Friday.
Krispy Kreme is doing one better: Completely free coffee! Any customer can get a medium hot or iced coffee, no purchase necessary. The chain recently revamped its coffee with âbetter beans, smoother blends and richer roasts for fresh, delicious flavor,â it said.
Peetâs Coffee says itâs âdisrupting the coffee industryâ with a new âDisloyalty Program.â For the first time ever, members of its rivalsâ rewards programs (including Starbucks and Dunkinâ) can use points earned elsewhere for a free coffee at Peetâs. A website has been set up to complete the process.
Sheetz is giving customers a free Nitro or cold brew coffee (any size) with any purchase made through its app until October 1.
Tim Hortons is giving members of its rewards program a free medium hot or iced coffee with a $3 or more purchase.Wendyâs is selling 99-cent small hot or iced coffee on its app.
Looks like boss Joe will have to do more of the work himself. Maybe then he will appreciate the workers and show that appreciation by paying them fairly. Then again, maybe not.
If you think thatâs bad, you should see what Rat does to entitled psudo intellectual Liberal hipstersâ pumpkin spice lattes. Hint: It ainât pumpkin spice syrup in there⊠;)
So very proud of you, P.WâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠ.one more day of not responding to this political,nonpolitical comment, and you have passed the test, lilâ Grasshopper.
This very strip is the epitome of todayâs state of the nation, if not the world. And Covid has dealt a blow much more pernicious than just a pandemic. âŠ
Anyoneâs whose ever waited tables knows how imperious, thoughtless and rude some customers can be. Rat only said what weâve all thought but knew not to voice.
This may garner more negative comments than posting something from a conservative point of view but here goes. IF everyone were to drop in just a token amount into the tip jar for the baristas, they would have a living wage. I never leave less than $1 per day for the local coffee shop, even when I only buy a coffee. They got up at 6 AM to make me coffee and always smile and the coffee (locally roasted) is awesome! Well worth it. Iâd hate to see them close due to lack of employees.
Itâs a coffee shop. Itâs not supposed to pay you a âliving wageâ. Itâs where you work while youâre going to school getting educated for the job that will become your career, and that will pay you a living wage. If you want to settle for working in a coffee shop for the rest of your life, then you have to adjust your âlivingâ to your income.
After reading through the comments, Iâm surprised how many people seem to consider it ok that there are employments, that are not paying during an full-time what a full time living costs.
Those are not jobs, those are charity from the worker to the boss. I have no idea how anyone could convince me to aliment some prick with my work.
Just because they need workers doesnât mean the companies will try to improve conditions. Eventually everyone will be begging to come back. Yeah, any day now.
I was 17 (in 1997) when I started working a job. It was at a local grocery store and I was a bagging clerk. I made $4.75 per hour minimum wage part time and later full time over the summers. I stuck around there for 2 years, general housekeeping, cart retrieval, cleaning the recycled bottle and can machines (once I was 18) and a brief stint in the produce section. By the time I left, minimum wage was at $5.60 per hour. (I was also going to community college, too.)
I changed jobs on and off over the past 26 years, yet experienced the highs and lows from those changes; employers who treat you great or terribly; lowered expectations on wage or job duties, being laid off, quitting a job, being fired and thrown under a train. I have had moments of doubt and wanting to just give up, but never followed through resigning myself to remaining on skid row.
26 years later, here I am, working a job making between $17.62 and $18.50 an hour part time. Itâs not a lot, but Iâm not complaining either. Half of my job is basically tech support, so I still get to enjoy that. Once I am ready (enough funds and mental obstacles conquered), Iâll be going back and starting over my college education.
The point Iâm trying to say is, donât give up. Yes, itâs been a crazy ride Iâve experienced in 25+ years, but I know what success grants you and what failures garnish from you. Still, donât give up. Ask for help when you need it. Donât be afraid to try something different. Gain experience and donât beat yourself up over things you canât change. I realize that Iâm not making a ton of money, but that will come later.
I grew up in a coffee-centric family where everyone drank theirs black. Mother brewed hers so strong you could stand your spoon upright in it, and my brother brewed his in an old sock. But I never developed a taste for coffee. To this day, it has to be below freezing outside, the planets need to be in alignment and Iâll need a ride home from where Iâm getting the coffee, because I take mine only with Sambuca. Starbucks doesnât sell it that way.
Iâve been in one of those stores exactly 3 times in my lifeâ once to ask directions (they couldnât help me; no one knew where they were) âonce to write an estimate on an employeeâs car (and all she was allowed to do was hand me her keys, not show me where she parked or discuss anything with me after I returned) and once (the last time) when I was partway home on a cross-country trip. My friend decided she needed âcoffee.â (I got a $2 cup of ice.)
That said, I had a work partner who swore the best coffee came from a certain convenience store near our office. That worked for me. They had free water if I brought my own cup, and their hotdogs werenât bad if theyâd just opened a fresh pack of buns. Our boss was a Dunkin-addict and he wanted to sit in a booth. I was perversely fond of taking him to that same convenience store for lunch. Since he wanted to see what our real workday was like, I was too happy to show him.
BasilBruce over 1 year ago
Ratâs only problem here is that he refuses to be a doormat. That and crappy employers.
Bilan over 1 year ago
But you can drink coffee and nosh on the cookies when Joe isnât watching.
BE THIS GUY over 1 year ago
One time I submitted a resume through an online job site. I also went down to a temporary job agency that sent me for an interview with a company that provided online software for banks. After the interview, I was hired. A few weeks after working there, I received an email from online job site that the company I was already for had rejected my résumé. I asked my supervisor what was going on? He said not to worry about it, that the HR department rejected résumé not knowing it belonged to someone who was already hired.
Erse IS better over 1 year ago
When I was growing up, if you wanted coffee you made it yourself or you bought it at a cafe or diner. And it cost⊠about 10% of an hourâs wages, for an entry level employee, more or less. Now, $tarbuck$ makes it so itâs full of fancy calories and costs closer to 35% (even 50%) of an hourâs wages. As far as I can see, this is a losing proposition for the customers, but they seem to be⊠addicted.
dadoctah over 1 year ago
The worst advice one person ever gave to another person is âjust be yourselfâ.
orinoco womble over 1 year ago
I went to Starbucks a couple of times about 20 years ago. In those days in my S. European city strong rich coffee was the norm in any corner place. Starbucks coffee was neither, which they made up for with fancy syrups and flavourings and whipped cream and sprinkles. I objected to not being able to see behind the counterâwhat is it they donât want you to see? And then those superhigh prices, for a paper cup with your name scrawled on it? You can still get coffee in the corner places but itâs not as strong now; the under 40s want everything âmildâ in flavour, and prefer sugary âenergy drinksâ to honest espresso. But at least in the corner places you still get your coffee in a cup, or in many, a glass.
lavender headgear over 1 year ago
Of course, the âlabor shortageâ has nothing to do with a shortage of labor. People lost their jobs because of the Pfoizoning.
Armitage72 over 1 year ago
You go to the store and grab a bag of potato chips that costs $3. You go to the cash register and hand the cashier $1. They say âThat costs $3â and you respond âI know, but I only want to pay $1â. If they refuse to sell it to you, it doesnât mean thereâs a âpotato chip shortageâ. When a company says âpeople donât want to workâ, what they actually mean is âpeople donât want to work for us for what weâre willing to pay.â
hariseldon59 over 1 year ago
Rat wearing a tie with no shirt (or pants). I guess it worked for Yogi Bear
Justanolddude Premium Member over 1 year ago
They opened a starbucks by us only because we are an exit off the interstate. Ranchers and working people. Itâs not always open. They canât find enough people who want to work there.
figuratively speaking over 1 year ago
Iâm sure thereâs something that Rat does well. Science just hasnât discovered it yet.
iggyman over 1 year ago
Hire Rat for the complaint Department!
Ellis97 over 1 year ago
Thank God I donât drink coffee.
DaBump Premium Member over 1 year ago
Huzzah for my (Goodwill find) Keurig!
HOTLOTUS1 over 1 year ago
COFFEE
kittygatos over 1 year ago
When you think about it going out for coffee is a cheaper alternative than going shopping for ANYTHING or going to the movies. Itâs a small luxury most can still afford. Breakfast costs what going out to lunch used to cost, lunch costs what going out to dinner was.. dinner has smaller and smaller portions and larger and larger pricesâŠand I feel so sorry for Californians filling up their gas tanks.
david_42 over 1 year ago
Coffee is ready! I make a pot every morning and drink a mugful. My wife WFH and drinks the rest. Starts work at 7 am, but is not a morning person.
Goat from PBS over 1 year ago
Why work when the government pays better for not working?
I get the logic. I dislike it, but I get it.
Ignatz Premium Member over 1 year ago
Whatâs weird is that they think of themselves as capitalists, but donât seem to understand that the labor market works by supply and demand, like everything else. If thereâs a shortage of labor, that makes labor worth more, and you have to pay more for it.
And if a worker isnât making enough to pay his bills, he might as well try some kind of self-employment, since the âjobâ you âgiveâ him doesnât do the minimum thing that he needs a job for.
MS72 over 1 year ago
Friday is National Coffee Day.
Circle K is giving away one free cup of coffee of any size through its app until October 2, with the offer valid at more than 7,000 US locations.
Dunkinâ is offering members of its loyalty program, Dunkinâ Rewards, a free medium hot or iced coffee with any purchase on Friday.
Krispy Kreme is doing one better: Completely free coffee! Any customer can get a medium hot or iced coffee, no purchase necessary. The chain recently revamped its coffee with âbetter beans, smoother blends and richer roasts for fresh, delicious flavor,â it said.
Peetâs Coffee says itâs âdisrupting the coffee industryâ with a new âDisloyalty Program.â For the first time ever, members of its rivalsâ rewards programs (including Starbucks and Dunkinâ) can use points earned elsewhere for a free coffee at Peetâs. A website has been set up to complete the process.
Sheetz is giving customers a free Nitro or cold brew coffee (any size) with any purchase made through its app until October 1.
Tim Hortons is giving members of its rewards program a free medium hot or iced coffee with a $3 or more purchase.Wendyâs is selling 99-cent small hot or iced coffee on its app.
timbob2313 Premium Member over 1 year ago
Labor shortage?? GQP solution is to dump child labor laws, put the kids to work for less or no pay
SusieB over 1 year ago
Looks like boss Joe will have to do more of the work himself. Maybe then he will appreciate the workers and show that appreciation by paying them fairly. Then again, maybe not.
bueller over 1 year ago
They make decent coffee.
Count Olaf Premium Member over 1 year ago
If you think thatâs bad, you should see what Rat does to entitled psudo intellectual Liberal hipstersâ pumpkin spice lattes. Hint: It ainât pumpkin spice syrup in there⊠;)
Zebrastripes over 1 year ago
People will eventually learn you canât live on love alone. Get a spine and get your @ss in gear!
rossevrymn over 1 year ago
So very proud of you, P.WâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠ.one more day of not responding to this political,nonpolitical comment, and you have passed the test, lilâ Grasshopper.
mepowell over 1 year ago
For the price of a Starbucks coffee, you can get a coffee and a small burger or burrito at a fast food place!
Code the Enforcer over 1 year ago
This very strip is the epitome of todayâs state of the nation, if not the world. And Covid has dealt a blow much more pernicious than just a pandemic. âŠ
Radish... over 1 year ago
HR: How do you perform under pressure?
Me: Like David Bowie.
nopainogain over 1 year ago
now i kinda want to go to that coffee house
snowedin, now known as Missy's mom over 1 year ago
Mr. Pastis, youâre on a roll! I love it!
wildlandwaters over 1 year ago
âŠand they donât pay well, either
zeexenon over 1 year ago
Corporate America 101.
Cameron1988 Premium Member over 1 year ago
Starbucks is overrated
PlatudimusAtom Premium Member over 1 year ago
Anyoneâs whose ever waited tables knows how imperious, thoughtless and rude some customers can be. Rat only said what weâve all thought but knew not to voice.
WCraft over 1 year ago
This may garner more negative comments than posting something from a conservative point of view but here goes. IF everyone were to drop in just a token amount into the tip jar for the baristas, they would have a living wage. I never leave less than $1 per day for the local coffee shop, even when I only buy a coffee. They got up at 6 AM to make me coffee and always smile and the coffee (locally roasted) is awesome! Well worth it. Iâd hate to see them close due to lack of employees.
pamela welch Premium Member over 1 year ago
âHow Not to Interview For Dummiesâ
[Unnamed Reader - 14b4ce] over 1 year ago
And tell Private Ryan to save himself,Iâm busy!
[Unnamed Reader - 14b4ce] over 1 year ago
Who invented the word âBaristaâ,and does it actually MEAN anything?
awgiedawgie Premium Member over 1 year ago
Itâs a coffee shop. Itâs not supposed to pay you a âliving wageâ. Itâs where you work while youâre going to school getting educated for the job that will become your career, and that will pay you a living wage. If you want to settle for working in a coffee shop for the rest of your life, then you have to adjust your âlivingâ to your income.
eric_harris_76 over 1 year ago
I donât interview well either, but not for that reason. Panic, mostly, I think.
The last two job offers I got were from people I knew from a previous job, about a week apart. This, after numerous interviews that yielded nothing.
unfair.de over 1 year ago
Well done Rat. You canât afford to work there anyway so just stick it to the man.
unfair.de over 1 year ago
After reading through the comments, Iâm surprised how many people seem to consider it ok that there are employments, that are not paying during an full-time what a full time living costs.
Those are not jobs, those are charity from the worker to the boss. I have no idea how anyone could convince me to aliment some prick with my work.
eddi-TBH over 1 year ago
Just because they need workers doesnât mean the companies will try to improve conditions. Eventually everyone will be begging to come back. Yeah, any day now.
minty_Joe over 1 year ago
I was 17 (in 1997) when I started working a job. It was at a local grocery store and I was a bagging clerk. I made $4.75 per hour minimum wage part time and later full time over the summers. I stuck around there for 2 years, general housekeeping, cart retrieval, cleaning the recycled bottle and can machines (once I was 18) and a brief stint in the produce section. By the time I left, minimum wage was at $5.60 per hour. (I was also going to community college, too.)
I changed jobs on and off over the past 26 years, yet experienced the highs and lows from those changes; employers who treat you great or terribly; lowered expectations on wage or job duties, being laid off, quitting a job, being fired and thrown under a train. I have had moments of doubt and wanting to just give up, but never followed through resigning myself to remaining on skid row.
26 years later, here I am, working a job making between $17.62 and $18.50 an hour part time. Itâs not a lot, but Iâm not complaining either. Half of my job is basically tech support, so I still get to enjoy that. Once I am ready (enough funds and mental obstacles conquered), Iâll be going back and starting over my college education.
The point Iâm trying to say is, donât give up. Yes, itâs been a crazy ride Iâve experienced in 25+ years, but I know what success grants you and what failures garnish from you. Still, donât give up. Ask for help when you need it. Donât be afraid to try something different. Gain experience and donât beat yourself up over things you canât change. I realize that Iâm not making a ton of money, but that will come later.
Otis Rufus Driftwood over 1 year ago
I often wonder who benefits most from our dysfunctional labor economy. I am thinking no one.
mdl1911a1 over 1 year ago
Foamy the Squirrel was right!
Sisyphos over 1 year ago
Rat is not what youâd call a sociable kind of guy, you fat, entitled snobs!
ellisaana Premium Member over 1 year ago
I grew up in a coffee-centric family where everyone drank theirs black. Mother brewed hers so strong you could stand your spoon upright in it, and my brother brewed his in an old sock. But I never developed a taste for coffee. To this day, it has to be below freezing outside, the planets need to be in alignment and Iâll need a ride home from where Iâm getting the coffee, because I take mine only with Sambuca. Starbucks doesnât sell it that way.
Iâve been in one of those stores exactly 3 times in my lifeâ once to ask directions (they couldnât help me; no one knew where they were) âonce to write an estimate on an employeeâs car (and all she was allowed to do was hand me her keys, not show me where she parked or discuss anything with me after I returned) and once (the last time) when I was partway home on a cross-country trip. My friend decided she needed âcoffee.â (I got a $2 cup of ice.)
That said, I had a work partner who swore the best coffee came from a certain convenience store near our office. That worked for me. They had free water if I brought my own cup, and their hotdogs werenât bad if theyâd just opened a fresh pack of buns. Our boss was a Dunkin-addict and he wanted to sit in a booth. I was perversely fond of taking him to that same convenience store for lunch. Since he wanted to see what our real workday was like, I was too happy to show him.