“Climate change” was a euphemism ginned up a couple of decades ago specifically to sound much less threatening than “global warming.” So now what’s coming at us is no longer global warming, it’s global roasting.
In a world where it does not require energy to remove water from the sea and deposit it far enough inland to maintain glaciers and prevent desertification.
It appears to me that the main area of disagreement is the cause of climate change and possible actions. Many think that the climate has and is always changing. Many also think that humans can have very little effect on the climate. It is a good thing to be environmentally aware. It is not a good thing to wreck the economy of the world to try to fix something that is not broken.
Sometimes True Believers see confirmation of their faith a every turn. Claiming validation after two generations of failed forecasts of doom is a weak basis from which to mock.
Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody ever does anything about it. Especially politicians who want tax dollars to pretend they will do something about it but never do.
I like to think of it like this. Picture the earth as a basketball, then lay two sheets of paper over the ball (NASA used to use this image to demonstrate how small a target a spacecraft had to hit to re-enter from space). That represents just how thin the 10,000 feet or so of readily breathable atmosphere we have. Looked at on that scale, anything we can do to protect, clean and defend it seems necessary. The outgassing of 7 billion of us has to have an effect, politics notwithstanding.
Science is a system of beliefs based on fact. Conspiracy is a system of beliefs based on what I like to believe are facts. Tell me what I want to hear and I’ll follow you down any rabbit hole.
“Climate change – The Facts” was on PBS last week. It began with the usual lies about historically “unprecedented” global temperatures, CO2 levels, tipping points and catastrophes to civilization; but their history began in 1750 (obviously, no geologists were consulted). Their one point of fact was rising sea levels, which any geologist will confirm. I can’t verify their numbers, but they claim the Mississippi Delta is loosing a football field of land every 45 minutes; so today’s strip is current events (maybe change Bubba to Benoît).
Although we live almost a mile from the Chesapeake we are exactly t sea level, and the ground water is definitely rising. Hubby put a row of flagstones from the front porch to the pond, and they sank into the ground of their own weight. Now we have a series of puddles, instead of a walkway.
My brother, who has lived in South Florida for over 60 years and has seen first hand the effects of climate change; is a denier. Yet he even comments how over the past 20 years he’s noticed that the summer temperatures are getting hotter, it doesn’t rain nearly as much as it used to, and the everglades catch on fire every year — something that never happened when he moved there in the 1960’s.
On a personal note: can someone send the excess water to Utah? We have a drought here.As a more general comment: Go to drroyspecer.com for an actual IPCC-accredited scientist, who explains the misconceptions of both deniers and alarmists. He has a variety of articles, for both regular and techie laypeople.
Why does everything have to be my side or your side? Of course there has always been climate change, everything in nature is constantly changing and evolving. Of course we affect our climate, we are part of it as well a part of nature. We inhabit and interact with climate. The thing is, we have, supposedly, free will and with it the ability to alter our behavior when needed. Seven billion of us can, and do, use a lot of resources and generate waste that nature has to deal with. We alone in nature have the power to affect our climate by choice and we need to do a far better job of it then we have so far, else nature will do it for us. Maybe we can’t do enough, but if we don’t even try I guess we’re not fit to be here at all. Better to try, and possibly fail, than to ignore it and seal our own fate.
I don’t know about anyone else’s grill unit, but mine has a hole in the bottom to let dripped fat out into a can so it doesn’t catch fire. If the standing water gets up to the bottom of the grill, it floods out the fire and there’s no BBQ.
Hmmm. Maybe that’s when the deniers begin to think that maybe there really is something to this climate change thing …
I know, I know … that’s another of my pipe dreams …
Hey, the BBQ and keg are dry and floating, so what’s the problem? ;-) And to think most of Trump’s properties skirt shorelines. How ironic they’ll be underwater, both figuratively and literally. Hahaha…it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
marilynnbyerly over 3 years ago
Around here, the ridiculous amount of rain we’re getting is our version of climate change.
Concretionist over 3 years ago
Bubba had better learn to swim… and run a houseboat…
Kind&Kinder over 3 years ago
“Say, Noah, is that big tub ready?
Alabama Al over 3 years ago
One problem: As the contents of the keg are consumed, the keg gets lighter and starts to float. They may have to swim after it after awhile.
Leojim over 3 years ago
So Al Gore was right on hahaha
Radish the wordsmith over 3 years ago
Qute.
Alexander the Good Enough over 3 years ago
“Climate change” was a euphemism ginned up a couple of decades ago specifically to sound much less threatening than “global warming.” So now what’s coming at us is no longer global warming, it’s global roasting.
AnotherFineMess over 3 years ago
I wonder who he’s talking to.
LeslieBark over 3 years ago
And once again the universe refuses to re-order itself in order to accommodate the fantasies of those self-deluded fools who try to deny reality.
Enter.Name.Here over 3 years ago
“I’d rather be stupid than wrong”.
pcolli over 3 years ago
That sinking feeling.
Qiset over 3 years ago
No comment.
m98115 over 3 years ago
Equally hard to realize, and admit, that one has been fooled or mislead.
pheets over 3 years ago
Ahh. Spring : )
sandpiper over 3 years ago
When throwing a spotlight on the glaringly obvious, be aware that most people will just close their eyes.
Brass Orchid Premium Member over 3 years ago
In a world where it does not require energy to remove water from the sea and deposit it far enough inland to maintain glaciers and prevent desertification.
pengzoid Premium Member over 3 years ago
I don’t understand. We are not underwater. Does that mean the climate changers are wrong?
boydjb47 over 3 years ago
It appears to me that the main area of disagreement is the cause of climate change and possible actions. Many think that the climate has and is always changing. Many also think that humans can have very little effect on the climate. It is a good thing to be environmentally aware. It is not a good thing to wreck the economy of the world to try to fix something that is not broken.
Dennis Nichols over 3 years ago
Sometimes True Believers see confirmation of their faith a every turn. Claiming validation after two generations of failed forecasts of doom is a weak basis from which to mock.
Say What? Premium Member over 3 years ago
When climate deniers’ beliefs can’t hold water… literally.
Zebrastripes over 3 years ago
Can’t fix stupid
Lenavid over 3 years ago
Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody ever does anything about it. Especially politicians who want tax dollars to pretend they will do something about it but never do.
scottbruce over 3 years ago
I remember my dad telling me about drought and dust storms when he was a kid in the 1920’s – that must have been due to global cooling.
bbenoit over 3 years ago
I like to think of it like this. Picture the earth as a basketball, then lay two sheets of paper over the ball (NASA used to use this image to demonstrate how small a target a spacecraft had to hit to re-enter from space). That represents just how thin the 10,000 feet or so of readily breathable atmosphere we have. Looked at on that scale, anything we can do to protect, clean and defend it seems necessary. The outgassing of 7 billion of us has to have an effect, politics notwithstanding.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member over 3 years ago
It’s not wrong to change your mind. Today is a day, but half of it is night. Truly a thing can be both black and white.
GentlemanBill over 3 years ago
Anthropogenic climate change is not proven. Climate change happens. It’s been happening long before humans trod upon the earth…
NeedaChuckle Premium Member over 3 years ago
Flood insurance is going up as 500 year floods are happening about every 5 years.
david_42 over 3 years ago
At least the beer stays cold.
dflak over 3 years ago
Science is a system of beliefs based on fact. Conspiracy is a system of beliefs based on what I like to believe are facts. Tell me what I want to hear and I’ll follow you down any rabbit hole.
Geezer over 3 years ago
Thanks to the magic of “shadow banning,” no one but me can see this comment.
Bookworm over 3 years ago
I believe it was the late “Brother” Dave Martin who once quipped, “I may not always be right, but by gawd, I ain’t never wrong!”
cracker65 over 3 years ago
Looks right to me
PoodleGroomer over 3 years ago
Is the water keeping the beer cold enough?
Zumtahk Premium Member over 3 years ago
The North Pole is moving. Its movement has more to do with the change in the climate than anything else.
WGillete over 3 years ago
“An we’d NEVER do that.”
billrobinsonmusic over 3 years ago
Looks like Louisiana.
Hatter over 3 years ago
What you’re seeing and hearing is not what’s happening.
Michael G. over 3 years ago
Noah, how long can you tread water?
DCBakerEsq over 3 years ago
There’s always been climate change. And there always will be climate change. Deny it at your own peril.
Geophyzz over 3 years ago
“Climate change – The Facts” was on PBS last week. It began with the usual lies about historically “unprecedented” global temperatures, CO2 levels, tipping points and catastrophes to civilization; but their history began in 1750 (obviously, no geologists were consulted). Their one point of fact was rising sea levels, which any geologist will confirm. I can’t verify their numbers, but they claim the Mississippi Delta is loosing a football field of land every 45 minutes; so today’s strip is current events (maybe change Bubba to Benoît).
Dani Rice over 3 years ago
Although we live almost a mile from the Chesapeake we are exactly t sea level, and the ground water is definitely rising. Hubby put a row of flagstones from the front porch to the pond, and they sank into the ground of their own weight. Now we have a series of puddles, instead of a walkway.
b.john71 over 3 years ago
It’s spring.. mud and flood season, get a grip!
paranormal over 3 years ago
Typical tRumper, never admit when you’re wrong!!!
jimboklein over 3 years ago
My brother, who has lived in South Florida for over 60 years and has seen first hand the effects of climate change; is a denier. Yet he even comments how over the past 20 years he’s noticed that the summer temperatures are getting hotter, it doesn’t rain nearly as much as it used to, and the everglades catch on fire every year — something that never happened when he moved there in the 1960’s.
Plods with ...™ over 3 years ago
With the temperature of spring run off, the beer will stay cold
mistercatworks over 3 years ago
Anyone want “tornado surprise” for dessert?
Ray Helvy Premium Member over 3 years ago
On a personal note: can someone send the excess water to Utah? We have a drought here.As a more general comment: Go to drroyspecer.com for an actual IPCC-accredited scientist, who explains the misconceptions of both deniers and alarmists. He has a variety of articles, for both regular and techie laypeople.
8arkay over 3 years ago
Just announce “Barbecue” and folks around here show up. We don’t need a “reason” for it.
grgt over 3 years ago
The hoax is not there is climate change, that has been going on for several billion years here on earth. The hoax is that we can something about it.
bbenoit over 3 years ago
Why does everything have to be my side or your side? Of course there has always been climate change, everything in nature is constantly changing and evolving. Of course we affect our climate, we are part of it as well a part of nature. We inhabit and interact with climate. The thing is, we have, supposedly, free will and with it the ability to alter our behavior when needed. Seven billion of us can, and do, use a lot of resources and generate waste that nature has to deal with. We alone in nature have the power to affect our climate by choice and we need to do a far better job of it then we have so far, else nature will do it for us. Maybe we can’t do enough, but if we don’t even try I guess we’re not fit to be here at all. Better to try, and possibly fail, than to ignore it and seal our own fate.
braindead Premium Member over 3 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MVTcwjkfE&t=205s
Dr_Fogg over 3 years ago
next ice age coming up
Linguist over 3 years ago
Whatever floats your boat … or beer keg, Bubba!
Ka`ōnōhi`ula`okahōkūmiomio`ehiku Premium Member over 3 years ago
Shouldn’t those hats be red?
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] over 3 years ago
Flooding in some areas, desert drought conditions in others.
David P. McLaughlin over 3 years ago
Snow melts in the spring; Seasons change in Ohio; If rains coincide with snow melt, there is flooding; Climate change has nothing to do with it!
Sailor46 USN 65-95 over 3 years ago
Both sides need to stop Confusing Weather with Climate.
SrTechWriter over 3 years ago
I don’t know about anyone else’s grill unit, but mine has a hole in the bottom to let dripped fat out into a can so it doesn’t catch fire. If the standing water gets up to the bottom of the grill, it floods out the fire and there’s no BBQ.
Hmmm. Maybe that’s when the deniers begin to think that maybe there really is something to this climate change thing …
I know, I know … that’s another of my pipe dreams …
Pfthagh!
Bicycle Dude over 3 years ago
Hey, the BBQ and keg are dry and floating, so what’s the problem? ;-) And to think most of Trump’s properties skirt shorelines. How ironic they’ll be underwater, both figuratively and literally. Hahaha…it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.