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What is your definition of knowledge? A degree, a PHD? you can be quite knowledgeable without a formal qualification. While I agree with the intent, implementation would be the trick
I fear Bert’s going to be pushing sh*t uphill with a pointed stick before that gets through. Good luck to him and his half dozen signatures, all the same.
People would be signed up for blocks to sign the petition. Each absolutely certain that s/he had the scientific knowledge required to voice an opinion… I mean, all the truth is out there on FaceBook, right? How could anyone dare question the fact there are nanobot GPS trackers in covid vaccine? FACT!
The First Amendment already says that the government can’t restrict your speech. Companies and private citizens can and should shut people up when they start spouting nonsense.
The problem is not with the information that is being posted, it is with the information that is believed.
I used to think that only a small portion of the population was gullible enough to believe the absurd claims put out there. Now I know it’s about 1/3 of the U.S. population.
From a Social Studies teacher I had in Jr. High School in the 70’s “If one has to resort to insults, obfuscation, lies, misdirection, a raised voice or force of any kind, they either do not have a valid argument or are the wrong person to make the argument.” I’ve been using this to sort politicians ever since. So simple, so effective.
All U.S. citizens are required to vote. They must have read and agree with the Constitution. Finally, they must agree that violent insurrections to overturn elections are not permissible.
There is nothing so invisible to oneself as one’s own ignorance and stupidity. In our own minds, we are all above average. That’s impossible, of course, which does not bother anyone one bit.
Once upon a time, they called opinion pieces, “Opinion Pieces”. Guess that was too complicated. If it wasn’t going to be called out, as too religious, I’d suggest. “Thou shall not bear false witness.”.
That never was our Founders intent. Nor their intent when making a Free Press. Our Founders made a “self government”. That means each of us has a responsibility to separate the fly-poop from the pepper ourselves. Make the effort. Read and study the opinions from individuals and the media (press) to make our own decision. And then vote because your conclusions and my conclusions will likely be different. In the very first presidential election between Adams and Jefferson, the media was filled with “fake news”, false accusations, real truths, mud slinging, and all the ‘politics’ that we have today. It is frustrating, irritating, divisive, gratifying, rewarding and unifying. 228 years later it still works as designed.
WE, the People…ARE the government. It was never meant to be given away.
Voting is probably the most pure expression of one’s political speech. We got very upset when certain States put restrictions on voting based on ‘literacy’.
Now, legally, social media can put any restriction on the speech they host that they care to. They are private entities, and no more need to publish material they don’t want to than Simon and Schuster do. Yet the way they filter speech is detrimental to the public good. The benefits of a common social media platform are greater enough than a competitive market that MySpace and Facebook can’t exist in the same market. Sounds like a natural monopoly to me, and we have a long tradition for managing natural monopolies. Thus social media, should be public utilities, and managed for the general welfare.
I’d make much the same argument about operating systems.
Any proposal to amend the US Constitution to do things like, say, get big money out of politics or guarantee a right to vote faces the same hurdle as Bert’s idea, namely that, in order to get it passed, you have to appeal to the very legislators who have been tremendously successful under the status quo and are understandably personally leery about tampering with it.
Everyone has knowledge about something. How to change a car’s oil, how to bake croissants, how to dig a ditch, how to rewire an old house, how to sew a quilt.
Phony Shearer seems to forget (I’m sure accidently – cough, cough) that websites and forums are privately owned and thereby subject to the rules and guideline of the owners. Paying taxes has nothing to do with it – what you posted was just BS. They are not public property and therefore they can bar posts and ban posting and users who post lies, hate speech, disinformation, racist and sexist posts, etc etc. No one’s rights are violated like that – that’s why there are things you have to read and then acknowledge everywhere on the net before you can post.
Boo hoo. Too bad. Wrong again at least twice in these comments alone, troll.
Scorpio Premium Member over 3 years ago
What is your definition of knowledge? A degree, a PHD? you can be quite knowledgeable without a formal qualification. While I agree with the intent, implementation would be the trick
suv2000 over 3 years ago
The problem is people use their own data to make up their mind
Concretionist over 3 years ago
Nice idea. But who decides?
eastern.woods.metal over 3 years ago
That leaves out all politicians. Especially a certain one
Cornelius Noodleman over 3 years ago
I see nothing, I know nothing.
Here's Waldo over 3 years ago
That would destroy the entire News industry.
Superfrog over 3 years ago
But no knowledge is required to sign the petition or to vote.
Radish... over 3 years ago
That would ruin the comment section.
in.amongst over 3 years ago
How about designating each one the Chief Executive Editor of their own opinions and then suing them for factual errors?
boniface22 over 3 years ago
Those to which it applies will not know what it means.
nosirrom over 3 years ago
That would make this world a very quiet place. Where do I sign?
Baarorso over 3 years ago
That should be a “common sense law” but unfortunately it isn’t-especially with the internet and all the “accuracy” it offers. :/
TwilightFaze over 3 years ago
I’d sign Bert’s petition…
sandpiper over 3 years ago
Some people treat getting vaccinated like making up their beds. They think it’s easier just to just let it lie.
jrlind55 over 3 years ago
Actually, that was the classic definition. At one time, an uninformed enunciation was only a point of view.
keenanthelibrarian over 3 years ago
I fear Bert’s going to be pushing sh*t uphill with a pointed stick before that gets through. Good luck to him and his half dozen signatures, all the same.
LawrenceS over 3 years ago
People would be signed up for blocks to sign the petition. Each absolutely certain that s/he had the scientific knowledge required to voice an opinion… I mean, all the truth is out there on FaceBook, right? How could anyone dare question the fact there are nanobot GPS trackers in covid vaccine? FACT!
Owhatadoc Premium Member over 3 years ago
King Solomon put it this way, “ A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions.” (Proverbs 18:2 )
dadoctah over 3 years ago
The First Amendment already says that the government can’t restrict your speech. Companies and private citizens can and should shut people up when they start spouting nonsense.
Lenavid over 3 years ago
Opposing opinions are dangerous! Control! Control! We must control others! Besides, it’s easier than controlling ourselves!
dflak over 3 years ago
The problem is not with the information that is being posted, it is with the information that is believed.
I used to think that only a small portion of the population was gullible enough to believe the absurd claims put out there. Now I know it’s about 1/3 of the U.S. population.
Chris over 3 years ago
good luck with that.
JHAppel over 3 years ago
I’ll sign it!
oakie817 over 3 years ago
you trying to shut down washington d.c.?
bbenoit over 3 years ago
From a Social Studies teacher I had in Jr. High School in the 70’s “If one has to resort to insults, obfuscation, lies, misdirection, a raised voice or force of any kind, they either do not have a valid argument or are the wrong person to make the argument.” I’ve been using this to sort politicians ever since. So simple, so effective.
1953Baby over 3 years ago
OMG! How QUIET it would be. . .
KFischer1 over 3 years ago
Define knowledge. One persons knowledge is another’s hearsay.
scpandich over 3 years ago
I’ll sign that petition — but only if I get to be the one who decides what constitutes “knowledge.”
gopher gofer over 3 years ago
that would be such an impediment to me voicing my opinion…
patiodragon over 3 years ago
YAWN We already have this on social media. You have to agree with the billionaires or you are deplatformed.
Znox11 over 3 years ago
How about this one: Before claiming something violates your constitutional rights, know what your constitutional rights are.
grocks over 3 years ago
Too tough a standard to meet.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Freedom of speech implies a desire for someone to listen. Apparently, if you say it they will come, is not far from the truth.
mourdac Premium Member over 3 years ago
All U.S. citizens are required to vote. They must have read and agree with the Constitution. Finally, they must agree that violent insurrections to overturn elections are not permissible.
gammaguy over 3 years ago
I know a lot about 19th-century sailing ships. Would that qualify me to comment on Formula One racing?
pheets over 3 years ago
Makes too much sense. A too mature way of thinking.
rugeirn over 3 years ago
There is nothing so invisible to oneself as one’s own ignorance and stupidity. In our own minds, we are all above average. That’s impossible, of course, which does not bother anyone one bit.
christelisbetty over 3 years ago
Once upon a time, they called opinion pieces, “Opinion Pieces”. Guess that was too complicated. If it wasn’t going to be called out, as too religious, I’d suggest. “Thou shall not bear false witness.”.
ncorgbl over 3 years ago
That never was our Founders intent. Nor their intent when making a Free Press. Our Founders made a “self government”. That means each of us has a responsibility to separate the fly-poop from the pepper ourselves. Make the effort. Read and study the opinions from individuals and the media (press) to make our own decision. And then vote because your conclusions and my conclusions will likely be different. In the very first presidential election between Adams and Jefferson, the media was filled with “fake news”, false accusations, real truths, mud slinging, and all the ‘politics’ that we have today. It is frustrating, irritating, divisive, gratifying, rewarding and unifying. 228 years later it still works as designed.
WE, the People… ARE the government. It was never meant to be given away.
IshkaBibel1 over 3 years ago
Nah, we need to be able to spot the idiots.
awcoffman over 3 years ago
Who gets to decide which “alternative facts” are correct?
comixbomix over 3 years ago
There would appear to be no precedent.
thelordthygod666 over 3 years ago
The whole problem of the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. – Bertrand Russell
mistercatworks over 3 years ago
Ever notice it’s easier to pretend to be knowledgeable in print than in person. Nobody can see your shifty eyes. :) :(
dot-the-I over 3 years ago
“Life is so much better making up one’s own data: 27.4% better.” (Adapted from today’s Dilbert.)
tee929 over 3 years ago
…possibly add a subsection for “protecting a child’s right to live”…..
mwksix over 3 years ago
Wonder how many "X"s there are on the petition…
mindjob over 3 years ago
In anticipation of this passing, “knowledge shops” are opening up all across town
royq27 over 3 years ago
good luck with that.
Alexander the Good Enough over 3 years ago
I’m right there with Bert. So-called “social media” is a social disease. Commenting on comic strips is entirely sufficient.
Will E. Makeit Premium Member over 3 years ago
knowledge – intelligence = 46 supporters
DenO Premium Member over 3 years ago
If this passed in California, no one would be eligible to vote!
bbbmorrell over 3 years ago
Can we make up our own knowledge? I think that is loophole a lot of people are using.
eolan59 over 3 years ago
There goes FOX News
Plods with ...™ over 3 years ago
That’s some phunnie S**t
zwilnik64 over 3 years ago
Voting is probably the most pure expression of one’s political speech. We got very upset when certain States put restrictions on voting based on ‘literacy’.
Now, legally, social media can put any restriction on the speech they host that they care to. They are private entities, and no more need to publish material they don’t want to than Simon and Schuster do. Yet the way they filter speech is detrimental to the public good. The benefits of a common social media platform are greater enough than a competitive market that MySpace and Facebook can’t exist in the same market. Sounds like a natural monopoly to me, and we have a long tradition for managing natural monopolies. Thus social media, should be public utilities, and managed for the general welfare.
I’d make much the same argument about operating systems.
Tootsie Premium Member over 3 years ago
" If wishes were horses, beggars would ride." Scottish proverb
jbruins84341 over 3 years ago
I grew up with the phrase, “Be sure brain is engaged before operating mouth.” Too bad so many people don’t follow that.
Richard S Russell Premium Member over 3 years ago
Any proposal to amend the US Constitution to do things like, say, get big money out of politics or guarantee a right to vote faces the same hurdle as Bert’s idea, namely that, in order to get it passed, you have to appeal to the very legislators who have been tremendously successful under the status quo and are understandably personally leery about tampering with it.
brick10 over 3 years ago
The silence would be deafening!
locake over 3 years ago
Everyone has knowledge about something. How to change a car’s oil, how to bake croissants, how to dig a ditch, how to rewire an old house, how to sew a quilt.
Jace over 3 years ago
In today’s environment it should be renamed to “anti-social media” as there is nothing “social” about most media!
briangj2 over 3 years ago
“A Little Learning”
by Alexander Pope
A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.
Fired at first sight with what the Muse imparts,
In fearless youth we tempt the heights of Arts ;
While from the bounded level of our mind
Short views we take, nor see the lengths behind,
But, more advanced, behold with strange surprise
New distant scenes of endless science rise !
So pleased at first the towering Alps we try,
Mount o’er the vales, and seem to tread the sky ;
The eternal snows appear already past,
And the first clouds and mountains seem the last ;
But those attained, we tremble to survey
The growing labours of the lengthened way ;
The increasing prospect tires our wandering eyes,
Hills peep o’er hills, and Alps on Alps arise !
anomaly over 3 years ago
If I have knowledge of spelling, can I express an opinion about politics?
Stonehouses3 over 3 years ago
I hope he succeeds.
Display over 3 years ago
Phony Shearer seems to forget (I’m sure accidently – cough, cough) that websites and forums are privately owned and thereby subject to the rules and guideline of the owners. Paying taxes has nothing to do with it – what you posted was just BS. They are not public property and therefore they can bar posts and ban posting and users who post lies, hate speech, disinformation, racist and sexist posts, etc etc. No one’s rights are violated like that – that’s why there are things you have to read and then acknowledge everywhere on the net before you can post.
Boo hoo. Too bad. Wrong again at least twice in these comments alone, troll.
Display over 3 years ago
A bad translation into Latin but the sentiment is clear -
Vos autem iniuriam si putas habere privilegium clamant “ignis” in theatrum simpliciter propter oblectamenti. Quod non est libertas loqui.
Si putas, oportet quod tibi est brunneis oculos, quia tu es plene pecus stercus.
bakana over 3 years ago
At the very least, they could revive the Truth in Advertising laws and make them applicable to “Nooze” sources.
harvey812abc over 3 years ago
Oh man, that would be awesome – Where do I sign!
NWdryad over 3 years ago
What kind of knowledge? Accurate knowledge? Knowledge gained through credible sources?
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] over 3 years ago
It will never pass constitutional muster.
bobgreenwade over 3 years ago
Life would be so much better right now if the Supreme Court hadn’t ruled — twice — that deliberate lies are protected by the First Amendment.
JenSolo02 over 3 years ago
How shall one prove said knowledge? Knowledge of what?
Sailor46 USN 65-95 over 3 years ago
It’s going to get very quiet.
Bicycle Dude over 3 years ago
Seems appropriate.
nikpromo over 3 years ago
Given what is being voiced in the day and age, I am trying to figure out what an alien civilization would rate society’s intelligence level……