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Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for December 03, 2015
Transcript:
Tiffany: Wait, what? You want to ask Bernice out? gunther: I wonder if she likes coffee.... Tiffany: I like coffee! Want some? I'll make some! Gunther: You know what? I'm going to go see Bernice right now! Tiffany: Uh oh! Lookie! A math problem I need help on! Gunther: Thanks for the chat, Tiff! You're a great friend to talk to!
JayBluE over 9 years ago
If Tiffany were her âMid Eighties selfâ, maybe the song âIt Must Be Obviousâ by Pet Shop Boys would be playing on the âturntables of her mindâ⊠â For Gunther, itâd probably be⊠a whole bunch of songs about being oblivious, dense and blind⊠and I guess mabye âIâm Not In Loveâ by 10CCâŠ
Ida No over 9 years ago
New poll up: Should Tiff hook Gunthie up with Bernice?
Is Gunthie Guest-worthy?1) 18 votes â Christopher Guest level2) 15 votes â Other3) 14 votes â Youâll never guest level4) 8 votes â Unwanted guest level5) 6 votes â Uncle Bertie 3 weeks following Christmas levelOther: Gunth is more guest worthy than Piro; These choices are too obscure; My head hurts; Norman Bates guest level; bury the Welcome mat when you see him coming; Like totally furshure!; Guest no; Yes, and donât call him Gunthie!!; I donât even know what âguest-worthyâ means; Nah. Heâs just a âstudy-buddyâ; Heâll use a level before attempting it; Tiff seems to think so; Yes! He always cleans up after himself!
legaleagle48 over 9 years ago
How oblivious can you get?
Airman over 9 years ago
Tiffâs variation on the âplease donât goâ seduction. Letâs see how far she will go to keep Gunther in her webâŠâŠâŠâŠ.or, could she really be interested in him?
Kymberleigh over 9 years ago
I know! Bring back Sun and Gunther can date her!
sffilk over 9 years ago
Tiffany is about to lose again and she canât stand it!
MinPinMom over 9 years ago
Somebody needs to smack Gunther upside the head.
SF1972 over 9 years ago
What about Piro? Doesnât Bernice have a little thing for him?
JayBluE over 9 years ago
âTwo Divided By OneââA Hazy Shade Of Guntherâ (âȘ)âN.V.S.ââNo Traction For Your DistractionsââJust Say NoticeââA Speedbump On The Road To Your HeartââThereâs Never Any Rainchecks In Southern CaliforniaââCamera ObscuraââNo Stops On The Train Of ThoughtââThe Things He Do For Loveâ (â«)âOh, There Must Be Some MisunderstandingâŠâ (âȘ)âYouâre So Inaneâ (â«)âI Want You To Want Meâ (â«)âSeems To Me, Itâs Chemistryâ (âȘ)
âPretty Clouded For A Bright Guyâ orâTunnel Vision Of Loveâ
Argythree over 9 years ago
-Gunther and Bernice together is a snooze fest
Actually, right now, this couple could be funny. Theyâve both changed since high school and not for the better. Gunther is now so self-absorbed he doesnât listen to anyone, and he actually returned from Peru to for his own relationships but to prevent his mother from having one.
And Bernice is turning into a split personality who tries to enforce rules strongly on others but wonât live up to them herself.
I can actually imagine some big fights between these two, because they are both very self-centered at this pointâŠ
Dreamdeer over 9 years ago
Tiffanyâs not âtempting him with her bodyâ because Guntherâs the only guy who sees past her appearance. Thatâs what makes him so special for her. (Iâm still betting that her mother was one of a series of trophy wives, giving her a complex about appearance.) Gunther is oblivious because most young men donât get womenâs ways of hinting, âHey, Iâm interested in you!â And as for Bernice and Pirot, I donât think sheâs attracted to him; I think she felt sorry for him as a homeless guy she couldnât bear to turn out into the streets.
TCoT over 9 years ago
I feel sorry for Tiffany. I think that she actually does enjoy spending time with Gunther- who doesnât see her as dumb (sheâs âsoft focusedâ as he put it), or as nothing more than a sex object- and is interested in him.
It would be interesting to have her go to Luann for advice, thinking that sheâs got the âperfectâ relationship with QuillâŠ
Argythree over 9 years ago
Compare Gunther now with Gunther as he used to be in Luann Againn right nowâŠ
Meowmocha over 9 years ago
Tiffany is used to people paying attention to her. Now sheâs not the center of attention.
doverdan over 9 years ago
Gunth will go to Berniceâs and find Piro bedded down there.
kenhense over 9 years ago
Guntherâs expression is like he suddenly sees a chance to escape from Tiffany. Sheâs too much of a challenge. Too bad â Tiff tried. Too bad â they were gonna be my favorite coupleâŠ
franksmin over 9 years ago
@MinPinMom
Why? Guntherâs got his sh*t together â heâs not interested in vacuous or shallow, character appeals to him.BTW, nobodyâs mentioned yet that a girl of Tiffanyâs appearance has been âfriendzonedâ by someone sheâs apparently got the hots for.TCoT over 9 years ago
I wonder how Mamma Gunther would feel about her little âGunthieâ ditching his âstudy buddyââŠ
Sisyphos over 9 years ago
Poor Tiffany [enter chorus of boos from Tiffany-haters here]! She finally finds a guy she likes who could actually turn out to be good for her, but instead he suddenly sees that he wants Bernice after all. Ugh! Bernie and Gunny are deadly dull together and will never get a real romance kindled. On the other hand, Gunther has done more in a little time with with Tiffany to elicit some real humanity from her than anyone else ever has. They would be a sweet, fun couple, with her aggressiveness bolstering his insecurities as they faced the world togetherâŠ.
Westplatte Premium Member over 9 years ago
I think she genuinely wants to date him, she just doesnât know how. I think he is as blind as they come. One day maybe he will wake up. You donât have to be twins to be compatible. I actually think they are very much alike. Heâs super smart, sheâs super pretty. They both have thier talents that are strengths at the same time they are weaknesses. They are both socially awkward. I donât think I have ever seen Tiff exhibit social grace. LOL A match made in heaven if you ask me.
Setriuno Premium Member over 9 years ago
Tiffany: Guys donât friendzone me, I friendzone guys!
Mordock999 Premium Member over 9 years ago
Dag Nab-it, Gunther!
HOW Many TIMES Do I HAVE To TELL You??
Everybody, and I Mean EVERBODY Likes COFFEE!!!!
Aqsnt over 9 years ago
Alone again, naturally .
Ruth Brown over 9 years ago
How long has Gunther known Bernice and he still wonders if she likes coffee? As far as we know, Gunther and Bernice havenât spent time together since his return. It would be surprising if there werenât some awkwardnessâunless, Gunther is trying to get on safe ground again by going to an old friend. When you spend lots of time together comfortably, as Gunther and Tiffany have been doing, it is easy for a relationship to blossom. These two are in remedial romance and that is another reason they suite each other.Of course, maybe Gunther just got up to obey the curfew⊠Too rule obeying to see all the handkerchiefs that Tiffany is dropping for him.BTW,Ox likes Tiffany, too, and treats her kindly. Maybe Gunther needs to get a little jealous.
Alan Smithee over 9 years ago
Gee, TiffâŠnow youâre in the âfriend zoneâ.
Chuck374 over 9 years ago
Bet when he gets to her room, he finds Piro on her couch.
dlkrueger33 over 9 years ago
Wait. I thought Bernice just told Gunther and Tiff that it was after 10 and so, NO VISITORS. And now Gunther is going to go to Berniceâs roomâŠfor coffee? At what, 11pm?
Cronkers McGee Premium Member over 9 years ago
Slammed! What is Tiffany going to do? Interesting.
R.J.C. over 9 years ago
Go and get her Gunther!! After all, Bernice and Piro have no chemistry.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member over 9 years ago
Tiffany may be attractive but that is about it, there is nothing there there. Of course now Gunth is gonna be in competition with homeless guy.
jrankin1959 over 9 years ago
To Tiffanyâs credit, I was expecting shrillness⊠and possibly slapping.
interestedbystander over 9 years ago
My first post. Been reading for years and enjoy all your comments with my morning coffee. :) At the rate these plot lines move Iâm not sure weâll see it in our lifetimes, but I see LuAnn being jealous of Berniceâs relationship with Gunth, Quill will move on to further his theater career, and one day LuAnn and Gunth will be married and have a family. It may take 5-10 yearsâŠlol.
TORAD_07 over 9 years ago
So, the greater question is, is Tiff responding to this because she really loves Gunther, or because she hates Bern and wants to thwart her?
HmmmmâŠâŠ.. Iâm leaning more towards the former. Partly because I guess Iâd like to see Bern and Prio heat up a bitâŠ
james28602 over 9 years ago
straight to the Friend zone!actually I wouldnât say Gunthâs oblivious as he is convinced that Tiffany would never be interested in him. Itâs trope, but itâs real life trope⊠Iâve known more than a few girls who found themselves in love with a geek who were completely overlooked because they seemed too pretty, too popular, too non-geeky
avshopping over 9 years ago
Why does Greg keep on pairing up odd couples? I donât buy this business about Tiffany being romantically interested in Gunther all of a sudden.
StoicLion1973 over 9 years ago
An interesting turn in todayâs strips. Also, the comments are equally interesting, if diverse in opinions. I am eager to see how this plays out. Personally, I think Tiff and Gunther would make an interesting couple but they appear to be good friends.
Outsideplaying over 9 years ago
Great comments, Faith. Typical Gunther can only focus on one thing at a time. Canât hear Tiffany as heâs determined to only think about Bernice right at the moment.
1soni Premium Member over 9 years ago
Gunther goes to see Bernice and just as things get interesting, Piro shows back up and asks Bernice out and she sends Gunther on his way back to Tiff feeling bad for himself and Tiff kisses him. All in less than a year of strips.
maverick1usa over 9 years ago
So, will Bernice decide to invite Gunther in for coffee instead of going out for it thus breaking the rules again? Or will she agree to a coffee date in the morning? Or decline? Will Tiff tackle Gunther before he reaches her door to keep him? Or, will Rosa come back from Peru? Have a good day!
z.a.m over 9 years ago
Friendzoned, poor Tiffany.
angelfiredragon over 9 years ago
Guys are oblivious, but girls kind of do it to themselvesâŠif Tiff really likes Gunther she should just say so. Sure its a risk, but if she donât risk, she wonât get anywhere.
Guys just donât get obvious signs, they donât read into thingsâŠthey have to be told.
cubswin2016 over 9 years ago
Jealous much, Tiffany?
Aficionado over 9 years ago
I for one find this story arc interesting and am eager to see how it unfolds. Good job so far GE!
notbornyesterday over 9 years ago
poor Tiffany, it seems she just canât win
GregShoop Premium Member over 9 years ago
I was a lot like Gunther in school. The geeky little nerdy guy with no self confidence so I can relate to him. Gunther perceives Tiffany out of his league so she can be his friend but there is no way she would date him.
Iâve thought for a while that Bernice and Dez might end up being a âcouple.â
Sakamichi over 9 years ago
Jethro Tull and âThick as a Brickâ come to mind in describing Gunther.
1Username over 9 years ago
Tiffany isnât âdropping her standardsâ, sheâs just realizing that she doesnât need a trophy husband, but does need someone whoâs human, and cares about her. I think Tiffany is more complex than some people think, and sheâs starting to grow up as well.
finbarrsaunders over 9 years ago
Hah! Tiffany has been âfriend-zonedâ
edge2edge over 9 years ago
There have been a lot of negative comments about Tiffany but lets face it, by young persons standards (low they may be) she is smokinâ hot. Gunther is utterly cluelessâŠ
JayBluE over 9 years ago
âEither that, or the batteries in Guntherâs hearing aids suddenly went dead.â^Bern had him at ârulesââŠ.after that, he became putty in her arms (or at least he at that point imagined running in a field of carefully planted flowers to her, all arranged in some type of âsciency orderâ by phylum, genus and species). Wonder if Bern âplanned itâ that way???
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr over 9 years ago
Gunthie is as clueless as ever, like he never went to Peru and âchangedâ.Itâs like Luann going to Mrs Horner for advice and then doing all the same stupid stuff all over again.
yangeldf over 9 years ago
HA! Tiff got friend zoned!
JayBluE over 9 years ago
But this is what someone said: âAnd if all your going to do is complain about the comic please keep it to yourself or leave.â
No where in there, did they specify anyone in particular. It could have been anyone in general. But still, you responded:
(O..P:) âSorry so long.â
(Imp.:) âAnyone can say what they want here, short or long, as long as itâs not insulting other posters.â
(O.P.:) âAnd if all your going to do is complain about the comic please keep it to yourself or leave.â
(Imp:) âPlease do not insult posters by telling them to leave. Everyone here is allowed to post their opinions and not be silenced.â â The original poster was only expressing their own opinion on complainers, in general, and was also trying to defend their own post from any âpotential attacksâ. They didnât single out a name, they didnât use any insulting language. it could have been taken âwith a grain of saltâ. But, âin effectâ, it would seem that you told the poster that they had no right to their opinion that they feel others shouldnât bother with complaining, and should leave. But there was no attack, and no insult from them, in the first place.
Endunamoo over 9 years ago
Gunther⊠Dude.. Wake up and smell the pheromons.
JustMe over 9 years ago
I think Tiffany really likes Gunther because she talks to him on a human level and shares her secrets with him (things about her family etc.). She doesnât seem to let anyone else in like that. And the fact that she doesnât throw herself at him indicates she likes him for who he really is. I kind of feel sorry for Tiffany. I havenât ever seen her date anyone as long as Iâve been reading the strip (since the 80âs).
Kirk Barnes Premium Member over 9 years ago
Yo! Tiff! Strip! The Gunth-man donât do subtle! You gotta hit him over the head with it.
(Of course, then youâll have to show him what to do with it.)
rhonda Premium Member over 9 years ago
This actually sort of makes me sad.
Scoutmaster77 over 9 years ago
I think Tiffany is a lonely person and sees Gunther as her only real friend.
BeniHanna6 Premium Member over 9 years ago
that is one clueless dude.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 9 years ago
ImplausibleâŠ. when you state:You just described someone dropping their standards. Her standard is the good-looking guy that everyone wantsâŠOoh never mind! She never dropped her standards, if she thinks Gunther can get another girl, he suddenly meets her standardsâŠMy take is something different. I personally think that the âfootball guyâ statement was Tiffanyâs âknee-jerkâ reaction because that is how she had always behaved before. I think since that âfootball guyâ panel, Tiffany has had time to think more and more about her feelings, and even though she did not admit it yet, her reaction today is showing IMO that she is realizing that a guy like Gunther is someone she DOES want. Now, maybe it should be a ânicerâ GuntherâŠ. one who is not so clueless about Tiffanyâs feeling, and is not so prone to yelling and hollering that the ânew improvedâ scruffy Gunther has become.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 9 years ago
ImplausibleâŠ. you have a lot of interesting takes on todayâs comic. For some of the ideas you state, I have some additional comments and opinions:Tiffany is not romantically interested in Gunther; if she was sheâd be tempting him with her body instead of coffee or math problems.I would tend to disagree with you on this one. I DO think Tiffany is interested in Gunther and is interested romantically. I see her current behavior more as a transformative change in Tiffany. She (IMO) previously used her looks and her mannerisms to try to âcatchâ a guy, almost as a type of conquest. To me, Tiffany now is being more adult in her actions and she is growing and realizing more about what a real relationship is.They really do have nothing in common; Tiffany is borderline mentally challenged (âbees in a podâ, junior high math) and clearly offers Gunther no mental stimulation.I would say that they do both have a great deal in common⊠especially a) they are growing into their adult selves, and will see life in a broader, deeper fashion than the did in high school, and b) they both can identify with not really fully âfitting inâ (Tiffany may have done all the âpopular girlâ things, but they were very frequently not successful.).Also, in regards to her being âmentally challengedââŠ. I think that is not a real way to look at things. As a college professor myself, I can attest that a very high percentage of students (including the majority of non-science focused students) never take any math beyond what their degree requires⊠and for many this IS algebraâŠ.. yes the same sort of algebra that many students learn (or attempt to learn) in high school.Why canât Gunther meet a new character instead of rehashing these failed romances over and over?In the above statementâŠ. I tend to agree with you that it would be very interesting and nice to see Gunther date someone else outside of the original group. But, I also think it would be interesting and nice to see a Gunther and Tiffany coupleâŠ. mostly because I think there is so much potential for each character to help the other grow and develop.
Caldonia over 9 years ago
Gunther isnât a bashful nerdâ-heâs the idiot who wonât leave her room! even though itâs after 10 PM. Does he want to get Bernice in trouble with her supervisor? (I am being sarcastic.)
Caldonia over 9 years ago
Iâve never thought Gunther was a Nice Guy Who Should Get the Girl. Just awkward. And asexual. That doesnât automatically make you niceâŠit doesnât even automatically make you one of those brainy nerds you hear so much about.
gileshead over 9 years ago
Really? Gunth and Tiff are not an obvious couple, and thatâs why Tiff-unther would be a compelling ship.
Mayor Snorkum over 9 years ago
Todayâs strip points up emphatically the vast difference between âintelligentâ and âsmart.â
serial232 over 9 years ago
I said this before, and I am saying it again. Gunther go for Tiffany. It will not be a mistake. I was you through out grade school, high school, and college. My wife was the popular cheerleader, in the spotlight student. We married after college and that was forty-two years ago. She is a wonderful mother, grandmother, and now great grandmother. I would be nothing without her.
Vorticia over 9 years ago
Um no. Bernice + Pyro and Tiff + Gunth.
Caldonia over 9 years ago
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 9 years ago
ImplausibleâŠ. I agree with you about Tiffany being portrayed as more positive. I like that new portrayal a lot. It really âhumanizesâ her character and it makes her character much more nuanced, IMO. Unfortunately, Gunther newer portrayal has been IMO more of a bifurcated effort. On the one hand, he has gotten âcoolerâ by dressing better, having the silly scruff on his face (instead of being clean shave or better yet, wearing a real beard and mostache) and being a bit more casual in interactions with people. But, the other side of his development is he has also gotten more biting and mean in his comments and actions when upset, and he apparently is becoming somewhat oblivious to the feelings of others. So, to me, the net growth in Gunther has me saying âmehâ about his character.
Csummers over 9 years ago
In real life the nerd never gets the hot chickâŠ..or maybe should say the hot chick is NEVER interested in the nerd. But this is a comic stripâŠâŠ(look at Brad & Toni for instance, NEVER happen).
Airman over 9 years ago
Faith is a genuine fan and I like that.
RSH over 9 years ago
Tiffany and Gunther are just on totally different wavelengths. Their orbits have circumstantially overlapped at univ as they both had not made friends. Tiffany needed lots of help w/ school work and Gunther didnât have anyone else to be with and so the friendship has worked. Neither has any obligation to date the other and that has been established. When Tiffany makes nasty cynical remarks about others or acts clueless and helpless, people just figure thatâs just Tiffany. But when Gunther looks out for his own skin or acts cynical folks remark how mean and uncaring he is. Today, once again, Tiffany is just being Tiffany. She doesnât have any other relationships of her own, besides Gunther. Now that he feels like reaching out to someone else and doesnât try to hide that desire, sheâs jealous and I believe she will try to sabotage his effortâŠ. just like sheâs been jealous of Luann and Quill and has tried to sabotage that relationship.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen over 9 years ago
Gunther canât help his animal magnetism ~ or cluelessness.
Kymberleigh over 9 years ago
Maybe I shouldnât say this, since there is so much dissent being expressed ⊠but I get as much out of the negative comments and complaints as I do the positive comments, character analysis, etc.
Airman over 9 years ago
Bottom line for me is that this week has been interesting. Ideally. in my mind, Tiffany should block Gunther from the door, put her arms around him, and say, âStay, Gunther. I want you to stay.â
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr over 9 years ago
I guess this is a set-up to see if Bernice will turn Gunther away because itâs after 10.
ACTIVIST1234 over 9 years ago
I used to think G-man and Bern would be the perfect pairâ intellectual, quiet, curly hair. But now I think while they may go for coffee they are TOO similar to be a couple. Bern, at least, likes wilder men. Bet G-man comes back to Tiff.
ACTIVIST1234 over 9 years ago
âNow if this gets me sent into posting Purgatory then all I can say is âAbandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here.â*Sheriff, just for the record, as I remember from high school that was Inferno, not Purgatory.
Willow Mt Lyon over 9 years ago
I think Tiffany just realized that Gunther means something more than just a study buddy to her.
RSH over 9 years ago
yesss⊠and then he will have thoughts (again) of Machu Picchu and its spiritual power⊠and of RosaâŠâŠ..
krys723 over 9 years ago
NO GUNTHER NO!! TIFFANY NOT BERNICE!!
Aqsnt over 9 years ago
Thank you. May all your plots be happy ones.
RonBerg13 Premium Member over 9 years ago
Surprisingly, Tiff DOES want Gunther.
Faith :) over 9 years ago
@implausible @IamJayBluE @BuckarooDave3 @theAirman @pointspread @otherposterswhoreadcomments
I see many replyâs to my comment, thank you for those :). The Airman, thank you for calling me a fan. I can still remember about a year ago when I found out this gocomics website and I thought it was so cool that you could see all the comics without having to open up and sort all the newspapers. I love this website.
So Implausible, I am sorry that I made you insulted and unwelcome. That was not my intent. I wasnât thinking of you or trying to single you out if you felt like I was. There are all kinds of people that complain about comics and as pointspread says, people live to complain and sometimes it can sound depressing. And as iamjayblue said I was also trying to protect my post and avoid getting into disagreements, ironically.
So again Implausible, I had no clue that my comment was insulting, and yes everybody has a right to their own opinion so please forgive me for putting that out and upsetting you. That comment was not addressed to you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :))
luann1212 over 9 years ago
Maybe she likes him too much which is why she does not tempt him with her body.
luann1212 over 9 years ago
I donât know what is in store here, GE has such a talent for comic strip drama. I do know one thing: my heart goes out for Tiffany more and more. She really needs someone who understands her and cares for her. None of the other characters are anywhere near as sad internally as she clearly is, hope something good comes out of this somehow.
RSH over 9 years ago
So far the only ways in which Tiffany has sought friendship with a guy is by (1) offering herself up physically and sexually or (2) asking for help. She has never tried to develop a relationship based on shared interests (non-physical). Her interactions with women (girls) have been mostly tactical in nature.
38lowell over 9 years ago
SomebodyâŠSOMEBODY!Should smack this dude on the side of his head with a brick!The silver platter beckons.
Dry and Dusty Premium Member over 9 years ago
Ok Tiff, time to fight for your man! You speak your mind any other time! Geez Girl!
38lowell over 9 years ago
Firerand1:I donât see Gunth moving forward.He has a girl who idolizes him, & doesnât want her body it seems (close, tho), so he just walks away from her. She loses everythingâŠbook help, friendship, maybe a future.He needs help from a doctor. Now, he gains nothing, and all he gained with Tiff, is lost.I think Tiff needs a new decent friend, to help her in school, & find someone that sees her like we do..an upperclass âQuillâ.That high school stuff was a sham, I think!Some thing to bring them together,,,a dead battery, etc.Gunth isnât the only smart knife in the drawer!Time marches on, & proms are coming up.Happy Holidays.
Argythree over 9 years ago
SPOILER ALERT
A whole day of debating over whether TIff is in anguish over Guntherâs seeming abandonment of her, and, presto! Another opportunity appears!
This was not what I anticipated at all. Bravo to the Evanses!
RolloTheGrouch over 9 years ago
Spoiler Alert III: CSNY: If you canât be with the one you love, honey, âŠ
Argythree over 9 years ago
Iâm 66, and still donât seem to be accepting all of âem. (But try telling that to my arthritic backâŠ)