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@ANYFACE: Adding a room isnât usually a planning issue. Itâs a building code issue; and where water and electric are involved, itâs a plumbing code and fire code issue. A room intended for human habitation (even if only for sleeping) needs a firewallâŠ
i canât decide if Evans is going for TJ miracle construction guy, or TJ the complete idiot who will destroy the house. There doesnât seem to be anyone in the comic strip playing the part of âperson with common sense.â
Last time TJ did a remodeling project, didnât Shannon also get a hammer to keep her occupied?
Anyway, what about the elephant in the room? The fact that if Shannonâs got a room of her own with Toni and âBwadâ, itâs going to be that much easier for her to move in full timeâŠ.
And still, nobody has considered getting permission from the owner of the house, despite the fact that he already warned them against doing any more unauthorized renovations. Iâm just hoping this particular fact hasnât simply been forgotten by the writers.
Greg and Karen have crossed wires again. Right after a Sunday strip in which Brad and Toni say theyâre going to buy a house, here they are renovating the one they rent from Bradâs parents?Why bother?(I hope the Evans read these comments, because they need to realize they are making a mess of the strip continuity these days âŠ)
Without having seen the entire layout of things, it might not be that big of a project, even in real life. Of course, you need to plan things out in advance and then buy the material you need and rent any of the âright toolsâ you will need but donât have. If you know what you are doing, a project like that might be less than a week â depending on what has to be done and the current layout. Of course, in the comic strip, TJ has been shown to have many talents. Just because things donât always go smoothly allows âpoetic licenseâ to add humor to the strip â in real life, its not always so humorous (until years later when you can look back and laugh about it).
These have to be among the dumbest people I have ever come across (though I love LuAnn and most of the characters): TJ for his wise-a$$ âideasâ, Toni for instantly agreeing with him, and Brad for quickly falling in line⊠the only one whoâs acting her age is Shannon!
Now wait a minute! I thought Brad and Toni were about to start hunting for a house. Why bother building a new room in a house theyâre going to be moving out of?
Iâm thinking that the washing machine has to be hooked up to water â both incoming and outgoing. So there is plumbing along the one wall. And then there is the dryer. electric or gas? Presumably the former, and therefore a nice 220V connection. If gas, then there is a gas line.
These then have to be redone out in the garage. And youâre going to let the guy whose eatery on wheels burned up do the work? Firefighters should know a lot better than that.
Not where my wife and I live. We even had to get a permit for our outside deck. A guy down the street built his without the permit and the township made him tear it down. Codes exist for a reason and that is safety of the home owner.
âIt shouldnât take that long.â Famous last words. Toni, you should know that rarely does anything go exactly as planned. For example, I doubt if you planned on being Shannonâs substitute mother.
Iâve been reading LUANN for years. Donât you remember that time when T.J. knocked down wall or at least part of a wall to make a walk-thru from one room to another? He did a good job on that.
âCoupla weeksâ? I think he underestimates the difficulty involved in moving a W/D. I have a multi-function space Iâve been working on (admittedly, off and on,) for ten years.
Bottom line: If TJ doesnât destroy the house, Shannon wonât want to stay in the new room alone and Brad will end up sleeping there. OR, TJ does destroy the house and everybody moves in with Jonah.
All of you building code Nazis, all they have to do to comply (in most places) is to not claim itâs a bedroom. If they call it a storage area or bonus room or home office, then it doesnât require a closet or window, or, in many places, a building permit.
(as made famous? By some imaginary band called âThe FloorsââŠwho were almost considered for opening for Spinal TapâŠâtill they met the gentsâŠ)
-
Look, Iâve gotta level with you-
Itâs a plane kind of thing to see
We keep putting up walls
And building ourselves a mystery
-
I canât pin it, exactly, but I feel itâs a concrete hypothesis
You say my words were a mixture and a mess-
You say my words came out gravelly and spentâŠ
But, you know exactly just what I cement!
-
Youâve got no room to talkâŠ
But, now you do!
So just say thanks,
Cos that room is open to view
-
You say itâs screwed up, but hereâs the drill-
Cleanup on tile number nine, till youâve had your fill!
Just caulk it up to a rough draft, but the Windows still operate!
No need to say any moreâŠ.just remember dinner is at 8âŠ.
Things are definitely looking up in the comedy department! This potential fiasco could go on for a few weeks worth of comics and have plenty of hilarity! For me this is turning out to be one of the most entertaining Brad/Toni arcs in quite a while. This should be, IMO, much more interesting than the âOh wow, Brad and Toni are going to a) think about copulating, b) be kept from copulating, or c) begin to copulate.â arcs we have had a fair number of recently.
One thing that I thought of yesterday isâŠ. there was another remodeling arc that occurred perhaps a year ago that I recall had Shannon involved. At that time a lot of folks WERE predicting the remodel WOULD involve the adding of a bedroom for Shannon. NowâŠ. we are seeing it come to fruition. I wonder if this was simply the plan by Greg all along⊠or I wonder if perhaps he read the comments here and saw how a lot of folks were anticipating the adding of a bedroomâŠ.. and he agreed it was a good ideaâŠ. and then worked on the story arc to make it so?
All I can say is that the artist needs to figure out how to do something with Toniâs arms. Sheâs always got that weird âstanding at attentionâ look to her.
Lets see these guys, both of them are firemen (or firepersons) but neither of them sm to realize that a bedroom needs a window, or door leading outside, WHY? BECAUSE IF THE DAMN HOUSE CATCHES FIRE, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN IMMEDIATE ESCAPE ROUTE !!! Toni, Brad. Iâm glad your only cartoons.
TJ, also known as BD, bulldozer has a solution for everything and his quick thinking is like a vacuum, doesnât even leave the dist time to settle. He seems to have pretty good ideas because Brad and Toni go for them. In this case, they wonât have to wait too long before they can get Shannon out of their bedroom, and who wouldnât want that!
Fearless prediction: If/when the new room is actually finished and usable, Brad will end up sleeping there when Shannonâs visiting â in a child-sized bed thatâs too small for him.
It always takes time to figure out the focus of a new arc if there is any. OK, suppose TJ finishes the work in one day as he predicts and the washing machine magically works in another location. Shannon moves in to the new room and then Jonah returns, and she says âlook daddy I have my own room now. Can I stay here?â Then the whole issue of Jonah and his constant absence comes up.
@AIRMAN: You suggested that maybe they would all end up moving in with Jonah. That could actually solve the problem of Jonah always dumping Shannon on them; theyâd already be there and know his plans! But I had a question about whether Jonah actually âlivesâ anywhere. We mostly see him dropping Shannon off; this time, they were in a car. So Iâm wondering if Jonah and Shannon might actually be living in his car????
There are so many criticisms about perceived inconsistencies, factual errors, and prematurely curtailed or, the opposite, drawn out plots, that it is a bit of a downer to read through every comment, which I like to do. Yet I persist, as someone did. It canât be fun to put so much energy into negativity, but like Ygritte (spell?) said of Jon Snow, I know nothing.
In the silly putty world of comics everything is possible. It is an existing room with electricity so making it a bedroom may not be an issue. Moving the laundry and doing the plumbing would be. Really what Iâm waiting for is Brad to grow a pair. Sheâs ok with it because of her insecurities about money probably. But enough already. If I had a perpetual house guest regardless of the reason I would tire of his presence after a while. Time to grow up folks.
Sailors would know better than me, but let TJ get one of those bunk beds (racks) from an old Navy ship, that is suspended by chains and folds up against the wall (or bulkhead).
Templo S.U.D. over 6 years ago
but will T.J. have enough energy to make dinner after making the room?
Namrepus over 6 years ago
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
AnyFace over 6 years ago
Are you even allowed to do something like that without permits from the local planning board? âš
Mordock999 Premium Member over 6 years ago
And of Course Bradâs brief flash of common sense yesterday, soon predictably disappears as he falls for Old Smileyâs âplan.â
No Building Permits.
No Permission for the Owners.
No Nothing.
And its funny that Smiley is all in for doing this ârenovationâ just when Brad and Toni have a wad of cash to purchase a new home.
No One has yet said whoâs paying for this ârenovationâ work. B & Tâs down payment money may soon end up in Old Smileyâs pocketâŠâŠ,
Aqsnt over 6 years ago
Watch, TJ will cut a load bearing wall.
Brdshtt Premium Member over 6 years ago
I guessed yesterday that TJ would be finished by lunch. Looks like I was a little off.
Argythree over 6 years ago
@ANYFACE: Adding a room isnât usually a planning issue. Itâs a building code issue; and where water and electric are involved, itâs a plumbing code and fire code issue. A room intended for human habitation (even if only for sleeping) needs a firewallâŠ
Vilyehm over 6 years ago
LUANN is about the trials of becoming a young eadult:
howtheduck over 6 years ago
i canât decide if Evans is going for TJ miracle construction guy, or TJ the complete idiot who will destroy the house. There doesnât seem to be anyone in the comic strip playing the part of âperson with common sense.â
P8ntedBunting over 6 years ago
I love how Tj loves to be surrounded by family. The more the merrier, Shannon would agree. And Toni doesnât seem to mind either.
31768 over 6 years ago
TJ could be making a ton of money flipping houses!
dadoctah over 6 years ago
Last time TJ did a remodeling project, didnât Shannon also get a hammer to keep her occupied?
Anyway, what about the elephant in the room? The fact that if Shannonâs got a room of her own with Toni and âBwadâ, itâs going to be that much easier for her to move in full timeâŠ.
Wilkins068 over 6 years ago
I thought TJ was a demolition expert.
I donât see a sledge hammer.
Argythree over 6 years ago
@WILKINS068: I thought TJ was a gourmet cook?
SJhapamama over 6 years ago
TJ gives new meaning to the concept of âhome wreckerââcanât wait to see what happens next! ;-)
Joe1962 over 6 years ago
T.J. it will take a couple of days are a couple weeks to complete.
luann1212 over 6 years ago
How is this for few words from Luannfan1212? âAs hilarity ensuesâ. Canât think of anything else to say.
BJShipley1 over 6 years ago
And still, nobody has considered getting permission from the owner of the house, despite the fact that he already warned them against doing any more unauthorized renovations. Iâm just hoping this particular fact hasnât simply been forgotten by the writers.
Kymberleigh over 6 years ago
Greg and Karen have crossed wires again. Right after a Sunday strip in which Brad and Toni say theyâre going to buy a house, here they are renovating the one they rent from Bradâs parents?Why bother?(I hope the Evans read these comments, because they need to realize they are making a mess of the strip continuity these days âŠ)
Rosette over 6 years ago
So, a coupla weeks in our time?
Brdshtt Premium Member over 6 years ago
When they open the wall, perhaps they will find Jimmy Hoffa.
Enter.Name.Here over 6 years ago
Out goes a MAIN SUPPORT wallâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠ.Down comes the ceilingâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠ.Out goes our happy roomatesâŠ.
Lyons Group, Inc. over 6 years ago
Does everyone think (like TJ) that they live in an instant world sometimes?
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen over 6 years ago
T.J. = Barry Allen
Chopped Fowl over 6 years ago
TJ, âŠ. you madcap!!
RabbitHole over 6 years ago
Without having seen the entire layout of things, it might not be that big of a project, even in real life. Of course, you need to plan things out in advance and then buy the material you need and rent any of the âright toolsâ you will need but donât have. If you know what you are doing, a project like that might be less than a week â depending on what has to be done and the current layout. Of course, in the comic strip, TJ has been shown to have many talents. Just because things donât always go smoothly allows âpoetic licenseâ to add humor to the strip â in real life, its not always so humorous (until years later when you can look back and laugh about it).
Troglodyte over 6 years ago
These have to be among the dumbest people I have ever come across (though I love LuAnn and most of the characters): TJ for his wise-a$$ âideasâ, Toni for instantly agreeing with him, and Brad for quickly falling in line⊠the only one whoâs acting her age is Shannon!
sueb1863 over 6 years ago
Now wait a minute! I thought Brad and Toni were about to start hunting for a house. Why bother building a new room in a house theyâre going to be moving out of?
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member over 6 years ago
Iâm thinking that the washing machine has to be hooked up to water â both incoming and outgoing. So there is plumbing along the one wall. And then there is the dryer. electric or gas? Presumably the former, and therefore a nice 220V connection. If gas, then there is a gas line.
These then have to be redone out in the garage. And youâre going to let the guy whose eatery on wheels burned up do the work? Firefighters should know a lot better than that.
Barry1941 over 6 years ago
Not where my wife and I live. We even had to get a permit for our outside deck. A guy down the street built his without the permit and the township made him tear it down. Codes exist for a reason and that is safety of the home owner.
WilliamVollmer over 6 years ago
âIt shouldnât take that long.â Famous last words. Toni, you should know that rarely does anything go exactly as planned. For example, I doubt if you planned on being Shannonâs substitute mother.
ElaineFisherManning over 6 years ago
Iâve been reading LUANN for years. Donât you remember that time when T.J. knocked down wall or at least part of a wall to make a walk-thru from one room to another? He did a good job on that.
GOGOPOWERANGERS over 6 years ago
TJ is the man what will brad do without his handy skills
Tom_Tildrum over 6 years ago
A bedroom has to have a windowâŠ
phoenix over 6 years ago
âCoupla weeksâ? I think he underestimates the difficulty involved in moving a W/D. I have a multi-function space Iâve been working on (admittedly, off and on,) for ten years.
Airman over 6 years ago
Bottom line: If TJ doesnât destroy the house, Shannon wonât want to stay in the new room alone and Brad will end up sleeping there. OR, TJ does destroy the house and everybody moves in with Jonah.
Plods with ...âą over 6 years ago
Remember for it to be a bedroom it has to have a closet, not be one.
Roy G Biv over 6 years ago
That laundry room sure looks a lot different than it did just yesterday.
Roy G Biv over 6 years ago
BTW â why would Brad care about adding value to the house? He doesnât own it.
jeffiekins over 6 years ago
All of you building code Nazis, all they have to do to comply (in most places) is to not claim itâs a bedroom. If they call it a storage area or bonus room or home office, then it doesnât require a closet or window, or, in many places, a building permit.
JanBic Premium Member over 6 years ago
It will not count as a bedroom and add value to the house unless it has its own closet. Without one it is just a room.
Mijo94 over 6 years ago
Hire someone quick! Do NOT let him touch a thing, heâll make it worse
GaryCooper over 6 years ago
Done by dinner? Uh, no.
ike38 over 6 years ago
Jeez, Louise, this is a comic strip! What is all this nonsense about permits and wiring codes etc. This is not real life.
JayBluE over 6 years ago
âConstructive Criticismâ
(as made famous? By some imaginary band called âThe FloorsââŠwho were almost considered for opening for Spinal TapâŠâtill they met the gentsâŠ)
-Look, Iâve gotta level with you-
Itâs a plane kind of thing to see
We keep putting up walls
And building ourselves a mystery
-I canât pin it, exactly, but I feel itâs a concrete hypothesis
You say my words were a mixture and a mess-
You say my words came out gravelly and spentâŠ
But, you know exactly just what I cement!
-Youâve got no room to talkâŠ
But, now you do!
So just say thanks,
Cos that room is open to view
-You say itâs screwed up, but hereâs the drill-
Cleanup on tile number nine, till youâve had your fill!
Just caulk it up to a rough draft, but the Windows still operate!
No need to say any moreâŠ.just remember dinner is at 8âŠ.
JayBluE over 6 years ago
âNo Room To Talkâ
âThrow In The Trowelâ
âTwist And Groutâ (â«)
âI Came In, I Sawed, I Conked Out!â
âThe Road Less Gravel-edâ
âThe Mitre Might Have Boss Tones!â (â©)
âRenovation, All I Ever Wanted!â (âȘ)
âTales Of The Concrete Bungleâ
âShannonâs Quick-Wash Is Open For Businessâ
âMore Space, And Less Clean Clothesâ
or
âSpaceâŠThe Vinyl Frontierâ
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 6 years ago
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Things are definitely looking up in the comedy department! This potential fiasco could go on for a few weeks worth of comics and have plenty of hilarity! For me this is turning out to be one of the most entertaining Brad/Toni arcs in quite a while. This should be, IMO, much more interesting than the âOh wow, Brad and Toni are going to a) think about copulating, b) be kept from copulating, or c) begin to copulate.â arcs we have had a fair number of recently.
One thing that I thought of yesterday isâŠ. there was another remodeling arc that occurred perhaps a year ago that I recall had Shannon involved. At that time a lot of folks WERE predicting the remodel WOULD involve the adding of a bedroom for Shannon. NowâŠ. we are seeing it come to fruition. I wonder if this was simply the plan by Greg all along⊠or I wonder if perhaps he read the comments here and saw how a lot of folks were anticipating the adding of a bedroomâŠ.. and he agreed it was a good ideaâŠ. and then worked on the story arc to make it so?
JB10000Lakes over 6 years ago
All I can say is that the artist needs to figure out how to do something with Toniâs arms. Sheâs always got that weird âstanding at attentionâ look to her.
notbornyesterday over 6 years ago
Lets see these guys, both of them are firemen (or firepersons) but neither of them sm to realize that a bedroom needs a window, or door leading outside, WHY? BECAUSE IF THE DAMN HOUSE CATCHES FIRE, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN IMMEDIATE ESCAPE ROUTE !!! Toni, Brad. Iâm glad your only cartoons.
Susan123 over 6 years ago
TJ, also known as BD, bulldozer has a solution for everything and his quick thinking is like a vacuum, doesnât even leave the dist time to settle. He seems to have pretty good ideas because Brad and Toni go for them. In this case, they wonât have to wait too long before they can get Shannon out of their bedroom, and who wouldnât want that!
dlaemmerhirt999 over 6 years ago
Iâm beginning to think there is a, I donât know how you pronounce it, a âmĂ©nage Ă troisâ going on?
Roy G Biv over 6 years ago
Fearless prediction: If/when the new room is actually finished and usable, Brad will end up sleeping there when Shannonâs visiting â in a child-sized bed thatâs too small for him.
KaceyKarlosky over 6 years ago
This reminds me of Louiseâs âbedroomâ on Bobâs Burgers â it was an old closet too.
xaingo over 6 years ago
Permits asideâŠTheyâre moving the washer and dryer to the garage, does the garage even have laundry hookups?
RSH over 6 years ago
It always takes time to figure out the focus of a new arc if there is any. OK, suppose TJ finishes the work in one day as he predicts and the washing machine magically works in another location. Shannon moves in to the new room and then Jonah returns, and she says âlook daddy I have my own room now. Can I stay here?â Then the whole issue of Jonah and his constant absence comes up.
Argy.Bargy2 over 6 years ago
@AIRMAN: You suggested that maybe they would all end up moving in with Jonah. That could actually solve the problem of Jonah always dumping Shannon on them; theyâd already be there and know his plans! But I had a question about whether Jonah actually âlivesâ anywhere. We mostly see him dropping Shannon off; this time, they were in a car. So Iâm wondering if Jonah and Shannon might actually be living in his car????
Mooshki Premium Member over 6 years ago
They may not have mentioned adding a window, but odds are it wouldnât be that difficult to do.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen over 6 years ago
You know, someone actually as fast as T.J. thinks he is could just about name his own price.
Luanaphile over 6 years ago
There are so many criticisms about perceived inconsistencies, factual errors, and prematurely curtailed or, the opposite, drawn out plots, that it is a bit of a downer to read through every comment, which I like to do. Yet I persist, as someone did. It canât be fun to put so much energy into negativity, but like Ygritte (spell?) said of Jon Snow, I know nothing.
Huckthefinn over 6 years ago
So Shannon will sleep in closet?
STACEY MARSHALL Premium Member over 6 years ago
TJ, the infernal optimist!
Aladar30 Premium Member over 6 years ago
GO TJ!!!!
CommanderNelson over 6 years ago
In the silly putty world of comics everything is possible. It is an existing room with electricity so making it a bedroom may not be an issue. Moving the laundry and doing the plumbing would be. Really what Iâm waiting for is Brad to grow a pair. Sheâs ok with it because of her insecurities about money probably. But enough already. If I had a perpetual house guest regardless of the reason I would tire of his presence after a while. Time to grow up folks.
Airman over 6 years ago
Sailors would know better than me, but let TJ get one of those bunk beds (racks) from an old Navy ship, that is suspended by chains and folds up against the wall (or bulkhead).
Auntie Socialist over 6 years ago
Doodely doodely doo doo doo!
Sisyphos over 6 years ago
I see a Bad Moon Rising. No; wait. Itâs TJ pretending to be a construction worker.
Same thingâŠ.
Cat Hammer over 6 years ago
A second bath would do more for the value than another bedroomâŠfor the ownersâŠwho havenât been consulted.
asrialfeeple over 6 years ago
Be afraid! Be VERY afraid!! Anyone seen âThe Money Pitâ?
DevilDog2001 Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Just call Mr. Gray.