Sadly, this true and is likely to get worse during the next four years. When I was in law school, the top bracket for federal income tax was 70% and all the rich people were still filthy rich. We should do that again.
You generally don’t get there in the first place if you’re the sort of person who thinks that way…paraphrasing Einstein: ‘Capitalism breeds predators’…He wasn’t just smart at the molecular level.
Since I am not filthy rich I guess I don’t have the right personality to even understand this level of greed. I am always happy when I share with others.
A bit off topic, but I think GoComics has done us a disservice in turning off comments on political cartoons. There is a lot of crap in cartoons from the “usual suspects” that is getting by without commentary. That is true of both right and left wing cartoonists. I also personally don’t like it when I don’t get a chance to say, “What does that mean?” I suspect it has more to do with heavy traffic overwhelming the site than it did with actual content of what was being said. Just my opinion.
I was once told by a fellow History teacher who leaned quite far to the right of me that I was “envious” and that “anybody can achieve such wealth” here. The poor man had no response when I asked, “why would one would wish to die with the most tokens?” It is still quite beyond me.
Factoring in income, payroll, corporate, and other taxes, those in the top 10% of income pay an average 27% tax rate. That’s the highest tax rate of all the deciles. That same top 10% earned 52.6% of all income but paid 75.8% of all income taxes.
That ratio of taxes to income of 1.44 is the highest among developed countries; the United States actually has the most progressive tax system among developed countries.
The Orange Man will squander the strong economy he inherits with Tax Breaks for the Rich, High Tariffs(tax on poor and middle class) , Pulling out of Treaties and Accords (America will go from a leader to after thought), Stripping the powers from the EPA (more pollution and more Climate Change). After the next 4 years with more Voodoo Economics (Trickle Down Economics that never trickles) all of the people who thought The Orange Man would help them are in for a big surprise.
Remember, the top 10% pay 78% of all federal tax. The next 40% (the middle class) pay 20% of all federal tax. The bottom 50% pay only 2% of all federal tax. These are FACT that are easily confirmed at the IRS site.
On Jan 20, 2025 need a website that captures key prices and statistics for the day and then going forward shows the monthly trend, asking are you better or worse?
I truly believe there will come a day, when a family or friend or acquaintance will state “I didn’t know that Trump would do this…”
I really don’t understand WHY a billionaire wants tax cuts. He can never, never, never spend even a small fraction of what he already has. So why does he want MORE?
But that’s what greed is: The greedy person doesn’t want money because of what he can do with it. He wants it just because it’s money.
The Bible says the love of it is the root of all evil, and some people prove the Bible is right about that.
400x? Feels more like 4000×. CEOs are now glorified cheerleaders. It’s such an easy job you have people like Muskie being the CEO of multiple companies at once. And when things go bad due to their incompetence, fire people who do the actual work to make the shareholders happy.
You also have to remember the facts of scope and scale. If I as an employer give my one (1) full-time employee even a dollar an hour raise, that’s a cost to me of $40 a week. Where is my business to get that additional $40 / week? Now figure it out for more substantial raise amounts and greater numbers of employees. What seems like very minimal changes can be seen to very quickly compute out to very substantial expense. Where is that $$ to come from ?
read the small book: “Lies, D^^n Lies and Statistics”. You can find a statistic somewhere to support your lies. Or just invent one and challenge anyone to refute it.
Even the simplest economic analysis will demonstrate that there is little room to increase wages and C-Level compensation is insignificant to the bottom line.
If Musk intended to crash the U.S. stock market, it could benefit him and other wealthy investors by allowing them to buy assets at low prices. For the wealthy, a deep recession is manageable, but for average Americans, it could mean extreme hardship, possibly worse than the Great Depression. If another pandemic were to arise, targeting marginalized communities with limited access to healthcare, the resulting population reduction would make the country more “manageable” for the elite, who could then consolidate power and wealth. Meanwhile, Americans can also expect the retirement age for Social Security to increase without a rise in benefits, alongside cuts to social services like housing, fuel assistance, food stamps, and education. These changes would primarily serve the wealthy and politicians supporting them, leaving average citizens to shoulder the burden of an economy that increasingly caters to those at the top.
hmmm…watta ya expect when the federal reserve and the 16th amendment were brought into existence…tax attorneys, accountants, PACs that write the tax code…for starters abolish the 16th amendment…doing so will cut into the money laundering programs of the military-industrial complex as well as the federal spending social/corporate welfare complex…what is so wrong for the American wage earner to enjoy 100% fair share of the fruit of his labor?
The country just voted to have this get even worse. First priority of new congress another tax cut for the very wealthy. Couple that with crushing tariffs that will raise prices and exacerbate inflation. The people wanted this, the people voted for this and the people deserve this.
At that level, the “tax rate” is primarily based on capital gains, not income – and usually long-term capital gains.
Yes, increasing that will tax them more, but will also tax those down the income chain more too – including retirees and others with investment plans. Not that raising capital gains taxes is a bad idea, it’s actually a good one. But it’s not a ‘tax the rich only’ idea.
Elon Musk has managed to lose more money than anyone in the history of money and yet remains the richest man on the planet. How much do you think he pays in taxes and salaries.
Something not mentioned in today’s cartoon or comments: the tax rate on earnings for those in the highest brackets does not apply to ALL of their annual income. The amounts not taxed varies by annual declared income level. There are many web sites which display income tax rates from the year 1913 — when the 16th Amendment authorizing income tax in the US was passed — through to the present. For example, from the bradfordtaxinstitute dot com:
In 1913, the States ratified the 16th Amendment, instituting the federal income tax. The 1913 tax looks nothing like it looks today. For example, where the actual form and directions fit on a mere four pages in 1913, they total an intimidating 106 pages today.
1. Click here to see the 1913 IRS Form 1040.
2. Click here to see the latest IRS Form 1040.
The tax law, like almost all laws, grows as lawmakers use it for pork, try to make it fairer, use it to stimulate a sector of the economy, or just want to raise revenue.
If you’re in business for yourself, you have a lot of control over how much you pay in taxes. Learn how to reduce your taxes – legally – with a free, no-obligation 7-day trial subscription to the Tax Reduction Letter. Sign up here.
As Will Rogers said: “The difference between death and taxes is death doesn’t get worse every time Congress meets.”
In 1913, the top tax bracket was 7 percent on all income over $500,000 ($11 million in today’s dollars1); and the lowest tax bracket was 1 percent.
…
The Depression
Congress raised taxes again in 1932 during the Great Depression from 25 percent to 63 percent on the top earners.
World War II
As we mentioned earlier, war is expensive.
In 1944, the top rate peaked at 94 percent on taxable income over $200,000 ($2.5 million in today’s dollars3). That’s a high tax rate.
The 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s
Over the next three decades, the top federal income tax rate remained high, never dipping below 70 percent.
The top 1% pay more taxes than any other group – contributing more than 45% to total revenues brought in.The problem is not with taxing, it is with spending.
Not much of a pivot, between the government and corporate world which do you think is the dog and which is the tail. I can guarantee you the tail never wags the dog. But you’d rather complain and act like government is always the solution. What, afraid to bite the hand that feeds you??? Happy Tuesday ! ;-)
High-Income Taxpayers Paid the Majority of Federal Income Taxes. In 2021, the bottom half of taxpayers earned 10.4 percent of total AGI and paid 2.3 percent of all federal individual income taxes. The top 1 percent earned 26.3 percent of total AGI and paid 45.8 percent of all federal income taxes
Well, if you’ve got the authority (and the money) why SHOULDN’T you throw your weight around? And to h&ll with the economy. As we say down here – ’I’m all right, Jack".
You should have taken economics instead of law. You wouldn’t have as much money, but you know more about how the works actually works. It’s a cinch Miller doesn’t.
lol. So no matter that they already pay millions in taxes. You feel they should still pay more. Blue fever cracks me up. It’s always someone else should pay more. Never stop and ask yourself where does all the money that they have go.
einarbt about 2 months ago
Yes, what was he thinking. Might get cancelled.
Ratkin Premium Member about 2 months ago
Sadly, this true and is likely to get worse during the next four years. When I was in law school, the top bracket for federal income tax was 70% and all the rich people were still filthy rich. We should do that again.
Zykoic about 2 months ago
The rich buy politicians that change the law to benefit the rich.
See dark money.
badeckman about 2 months ago
Make America great again tax the rich and rebuild our infrastructure.
comixbomix about 2 months ago
You generally don’t get there in the first place if you’re the sort of person who thinks that way…paraphrasing Einstein: ‘Capitalism breeds predators’…He wasn’t just smart at the molecular level.
Bilan about 2 months ago
That’s why Elon is working with Trump and not Carl.
braindead Premium Member about 2 months ago
Magats will not understand that today’s comic is satire.
They believe that preferential tax treatment for the rich and for patriotic multinational corporations benefit them personally.
And they believe that American tariffs are paid for by other countries.
uniquename about 2 months ago
And still be making 200 times more than your employees. And you would still be outrageously, filthy rich.
There’s nothing new here.
sbenton7684 about 2 months ago
…and it’s only going to get worse…
Mediatech about 2 months ago
It’s possible that someday the 1% will realize they need us a lot more than we need them; but I doubt it.
some idiot from R'lyeh Premium Member about 2 months ago
Surely guillotines can’t cost that much to make?
Mats Dahlgren Premium Member about 2 months ago
Since I am not filthy rich I guess I don’t have the right personality to even understand this level of greed. I am always happy when I share with others.
happyinvenice23 about 2 months ago
No Shi! Keep Dreaming you idiot, lying trump will lower their tax rate and raise yours! I warned you garbage brain people what will happen!!!
Yontrop about 2 months ago
A bit off topic, but I think GoComics has done us a disservice in turning off comments on political cartoons. There is a lot of crap in cartoons from the “usual suspects” that is getting by without commentary. That is true of both right and left wing cartoonists. I also personally don’t like it when I don’t get a chance to say, “What does that mean?” I suspect it has more to do with heavy traffic overwhelming the site than it did with actual content of what was being said. Just my opinion.
walsh.william about 2 months ago
And every attempt to fix this has been met with outrage by those who complain the loudest.
Funniguy about 2 months ago
It’s a non sequitur.
Havel about 2 months ago
I was once told by a fellow History teacher who leaned quite far to the right of me that I was “envious” and that “anybody can achieve such wealth” here. The poor man had no response when I asked, “why would one would wish to die with the most tokens?” It is still quite beyond me.
PraiseofFolly about 2 months ago
Compared to a few generations ago, there are swarms of billionaires these days. The real status to aim for in the future will be that of Trillionaire.
CountOlaf2.0 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Here we go…
scpandich about 2 months ago
Factoring in income, payroll, corporate, and other taxes, those in the top 10% of income pay an average 27% tax rate. That’s the highest tax rate of all the deciles. That same top 10% earned 52.6% of all income but paid 75.8% of all income taxes.
That ratio of taxes to income of 1.44 is the highest among developed countries; the United States actually has the most progressive tax system among developed countries.
Totalloser Premium Member about 2 months ago
The Orange Man will squander the strong economy he inherits with Tax Breaks for the Rich, High Tariffs(tax on poor and middle class) , Pulling out of Treaties and Accords (America will go from a leader to after thought), Stripping the powers from the EPA (more pollution and more Climate Change). After the next 4 years with more Voodoo Economics (Trickle Down Economics that never trickles) all of the people who thought The Orange Man would help them are in for a big surprise.
CountOlaf2.0 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Let’s leave politics out of the comics. Stick to Danae, the New Englandahs and the Bears. God Bless America.
Free or Not? Premium Member about 2 months ago
Excellent Capture of the conversation – in the DEMOCRAT ELITE DONOR LOUNGE!
sandpiper about 2 months ago
“On Hold” leaves me wondering where this will go in next installment.
steveconkey2003 about 2 months ago
Remember, the top 10% pay 78% of all federal tax. The next 40% (the middle class) pay 20% of all federal tax. The bottom 50% pay only 2% of all federal tax. These are FACT that are easily confirmed at the IRS site.
baskate_2000 about 2 months ago
I may throw up, because this is happening EVERYWHERE!
MC4802 Premium Member about 2 months ago
On Jan 20, 2025 need a website that captures key prices and statistics for the day and then going forward shows the monthly trend, asking are you better or worse?
I truly believe there will come a day, when a family or friend or acquaintance will state “I didn’t know that Trump would do this…”
Ignatz Premium Member about 2 months ago
I really don’t understand WHY a billionaire wants tax cuts. He can never, never, never spend even a small fraction of what he already has. So why does he want MORE?
But that’s what greed is: The greedy person doesn’t want money because of what he can do with it. He wants it just because it’s money.
The Bible says the love of it is the root of all evil, and some people prove the Bible is right about that.
PastorJayMo about 2 months ago
Spoken like a true liberal who just had a ton of billionaires donate to Kamala’s run for the presidency. Which is the real party of the rich?
dflak about 2 months ago
The most misquoted text in the Bible is, “Money is the root of all evil.” The correct quote is “The Love of money is the root of all evil.”
I have no problem with some people having more than others as long as everybody has enough.
Alverant about 2 months ago
400x? Feels more like 4000×. CEOs are now glorified cheerleaders. It’s such an easy job you have people like Muskie being the CEO of multiple companies at once. And when things go bad due to their incompetence, fire people who do the actual work to make the shareholders happy.
dflak about 2 months ago
There comes a point where you stop owning things and things start owning you.
I’ve never volunteered to be a slave no matter how good the “pay and benefits” were.
Holden Awn about 2 months ago
You also have to remember the facts of scope and scale. If I as an employer give my one (1) full-time employee even a dollar an hour raise, that’s a cost to me of $40 a week. Where is my business to get that additional $40 / week? Now figure it out for more substantial raise amounts and greater numbers of employees. What seems like very minimal changes can be seen to very quickly compute out to very substantial expense. Where is that $$ to come from ?
earlcdean about 2 months ago
read the small book: “Lies, D^^n Lies and Statistics”. You can find a statistic somewhere to support your lies. Or just invent one and challenge anyone to refute it.
Ishka Bibel about 2 months ago
Even the simplest economic analysis will demonstrate that there is little room to increase wages and C-Level compensation is insignificant to the bottom line.
Crandlemire about 2 months ago
If Musk intended to crash the U.S. stock market, it could benefit him and other wealthy investors by allowing them to buy assets at low prices. For the wealthy, a deep recession is manageable, but for average Americans, it could mean extreme hardship, possibly worse than the Great Depression. If another pandemic were to arise, targeting marginalized communities with limited access to healthcare, the resulting population reduction would make the country more “manageable” for the elite, who could then consolidate power and wealth. Meanwhile, Americans can also expect the retirement age for Social Security to increase without a rise in benefits, alongside cuts to social services like housing, fuel assistance, food stamps, and education. These changes would primarily serve the wealthy and politicians supporting them, leaving average citizens to shoulder the burden of an economy that increasingly caters to those at the top.
ladykat about 2 months ago
Unfortunately, true. Also likely to get much worse.
oakie817 about 2 months ago
That’s what Ford did, made sure his employees could afford to buy the product they made…
Will E. Makeit Premium Member about 2 months ago
hmmm…watta ya expect when the federal reserve and the 16th amendment were brought into existence…tax attorneys, accountants, PACs that write the tax code…for starters abolish the 16th amendment…doing so will cut into the money laundering programs of the military-industrial complex as well as the federal spending social/corporate welfare complex…what is so wrong for the American wage earner to enjoy 100% fair share of the fruit of his labor?
David_J Premium Member about 2 months ago
If we had set an example by simply tossing Nixon’s behind in the can, we probably could have ended this all right then and there.
hawkeye1201 about 2 months ago
I am a bit puzzled why no one here seems to be concerned about our national debt.
sisterea about 2 months ago
The country just voted to have this get even worse. First priority of new congress another tax cut for the very wealthy. Couple that with crushing tariffs that will raise prices and exacerbate inflation. The people wanted this, the people voted for this and the people deserve this.
Timothy Madigan Premium Member about 2 months ago
At that level, the “tax rate” is primarily based on capital gains, not income – and usually long-term capital gains.
Yes, increasing that will tax them more, but will also tax those down the income chain more too – including retirees and others with investment plans. Not that raising capital gains taxes is a bad idea, it’s actually a good one. But it’s not a ‘tax the rich only’ idea.
oldchas about 2 months ago
When overtime pay for hourly workers gets messed with in a way that benefits employers, I wonder if the non union working class will notice.
Radish... about 2 months ago
That’s what the republican peasants voted for.
mistercatworks about 2 months ago
Elon Musk has managed to lose more money than anyone in the history of money and yet remains the richest man on the planet. How much do you think he pays in taxes and salaries.
perryed about 2 months ago
They need a consult with Elon.
anomaly about 2 months ago
Obviously the more evenly wealth is spread the healthier the economy would be. But certain politicians still push trickle-down theory.
lsnrchrd.1 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Something not mentioned in today’s cartoon or comments: the tax rate on earnings for those in the highest brackets does not apply to ALL of their annual income. The amounts not taxed varies by annual declared income level. There are many web sites which display income tax rates from the year 1913 — when the 16th Amendment authorizing income tax in the US was passed — through to the present. For example, from the bradfordtaxinstitute dot com:
In 1913, the States ratified the 16th Amendment, instituting the federal income tax. The 1913 tax looks nothing like it looks today. For example, where the actual form and directions fit on a mere four pages in 1913, they total an intimidating 106 pages today.
1. Click here to see the 1913 IRS Form 1040.
2. Click here to see the latest IRS Form 1040.
The tax law, like almost all laws, grows as lawmakers use it for pork, try to make it fairer, use it to stimulate a sector of the economy, or just want to raise revenue.
If you’re in business for yourself, you have a lot of control over how much you pay in taxes. Learn how to reduce your taxes – legally – with a free, no-obligation 7-day trial subscription to the Tax Reduction Letter. Sign up here.
As Will Rogers said: “The difference between death and taxes is death doesn’t get worse every time Congress meets.”
In 1913, the top tax bracket was 7 percent on all income over $500,000 ($11 million in today’s dollars1); and the lowest tax bracket was 1 percent.
…
The Depression
Congress raised taxes again in 1932 during the Great Depression from 25 percent to 63 percent on the top earners.
World War II
As we mentioned earlier, war is expensive.
In 1944, the top rate peaked at 94 percent on taxable income over $200,000 ($2.5 million in today’s dollars3). That’s a high tax rate.
The 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s
Over the next three decades, the top federal income tax rate remained high, never dipping below 70 percent.
slbolfing about 2 months ago
The top 1% pay more taxes than any other group – contributing more than 45% to total revenues brought in.The problem is not with taxing, it is with spending.
Richard S Russell Premium Member about 2 months ago
Germany 1945 • Postmortem
From Pastor Martin NiemoellerThey first came for the Communists and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.
USA 2025 • Premortem
They first came for the illegal immigrants and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t an illegal immigrant.
Then they came for the liberal media and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a media person, let alone a liberal.
[rest of the story remains to be written]
lnrokr55 about 2 months ago
Not much of a pivot, between the government and corporate world which do you think is the dog and which is the tail. I can guarantee you the tail never wags the dog. But you’d rather complain and act like government is always the solution. What, afraid to bite the hand that feeds you??? Happy Tuesday ! ;-)
6turtle9 about 2 months ago
No wonder it stinks. Oh the humanity.
Space_cat about 2 months ago
May they all burn in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity!
mareilb about 2 months ago
Sad, but true
jvscanlan Premium Member about 2 months ago
I’ll bet we could cut our taxes to almost nothing by convincing enough people that a flat tax is actually fair
ednorton130 about 2 months ago
High-Income Taxpayers Paid the Majority of Federal Income Taxes. In 2021, the bottom half of taxpayers earned 10.4 percent of total AGI and paid 2.3 percent of all federal individual income taxes. The top 1 percent earned 26.3 percent of total AGI and paid 45.8 percent of all federal income taxes
lsnrchrd.1 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Somebody up there thinks that a flat tax is a fair tax. What a … well, I don’t have a word for that which won’t p!s$$ that person off.
Richard S Russell Premium Member about 2 months ago
Midas save us, we’ve just turned the national economy over to a guy who managed to bankrupt 4 casinos. CASINOS!!!
eddi-TBH about 2 months ago
The time for this has long past.
sincavage05 about 2 months ago
The people with the gold make the rules.
olds_cool63 about 2 months ago
They only make 400 times more than their employees??? They are doing something wrong! They must be new!
[Unnamed Reader - e476da] about 2 months ago
It’s at 60%. For those bent on punishing success, ask yourself when was the last time you were hired by a pauper?
keenanthelibrarian about 2 months ago
Well, if you’ve got the authority (and the money) why SHOULDN’T you throw your weight around? And to h&ll with the economy. As we say down here – ’I’m all right, Jack".
teh3 Premium Member about 2 months ago
You should have taken economics instead of law. You wouldn’t have as much money, but you know more about how the works actually works. It’s a cinch Miller doesn’t.
[Unnamed Reader - 14b4ce] about 2 months ago
Trump has been living off unpaid bank loans(not just from the USA) all his adult life.His actual ready cash flow is $89.27.
washatkc about 2 months ago
lol. So no matter that they already pay millions in taxes. You feel they should still pay more. Blue fever cracks me up. It’s always someone else should pay more. Never stop and ask yourself where does all the money that they have go.
comicsrrd about 2 months ago
BWWHAHAHAHAHA! According to the OMB, the top 1% pay over 40% of the taxes while the bottom 95% pay 33%. Fair share much?
AtomicForce91 Premium Member about 1 month ago
Actually, they are able to write off business expenses, so those are not taxed.
I do not care how much someone else makes, I would prefer to be paid the market value.