Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for October 08, 2023

REMEBER – You have the right not to vote; however, if you exercise that right you automatically give up the right to complain about how the election went.

Those “very smart men” knew exactly what they were creating. No matter how future elections might go, they wanted a democracy that would forever run the country for people just like themselves — rich white men.

Everything will be fine when our alien overlords take control

Ah, for the good old days and the three-fifths rule.

Apathy is a bit like happiness. It’s still popular but getting harder to achieve.

The electoral college keeps the country from being run by the handful of high population states while ignoring the rest.

One of the main problems with democracy is that you can fool most of the people all of the time.

That never stopped republicans.

Without the electoral college, no slavery. Without the “war for slavery” (later renamed to “taxation without representation war”), no slavery. No slavery, no profit.

The Electoral College should have been abolished by a 16th Amendment after the Civil War. The telegraph had been around for more than 20 years, and news no longer traveled at the speed of a horse.

I always spent 90 minutes explaining the Electoral College to my community college American Government students, but subsequent quizzes showed that most of them still didn’t understand it.

I keep getting complaints about how, in Australia, you are ‘forced’ to vote. THAT’s WRONG!! What you are forced to do, is to turn up at a polling station and have your name marked off. Then you’re given a voting sheet – in your case, Democratic or Republican (mostly), but in our case, Legislative Assembly and Senate (we have a bicameral system – look it up if you don’t know what that means). What you do with that voting form IS UP TO YOU … you can vote, (which is what they’d like you to do) or put nothing on the form, or just “Kick the b@st@rds Out!!” or some such epithet, and put them into the boxes marked Legislative Assembly and Senate. You do NOT have to vote if you don’t want to. Now I’ve probably broken some law and will have the Thought Police knocking on my door. So be it …

The Electoral College is there for a very good reason. And Hillary, people need to be deprogrammed, Clinton found out she didn’t know what that was.

When the Electoral College was established it was the most democratic system for naming a leader in the entire world. Now we have the least democratic method of those countries that hold free elections in the entire world.

And is currently loaded to favor the Republicans. Ever since Samuel Tilden was elected President in 1876 the only cases where a one person won the popular vote, but another person was installed as President, it has always been the Republicans who have benefited from the will of the majority of American voters being ignored.

Furthermore it has already been tinkered with and modified in a way that has gutted the original idea. If we were willing to recognize the original way it was set up (which actually wasn’t as bad as it became) and change it, it is time to recognize it needs to be buried and forgotten.

The Electoral College is one of the few things that gives the self-sufficent taxpayer a fighting chance!

Is Wiley also against the Senate?

If you are not from CA, NY, FL, TX or IL, you better hope the Electoral College sticks around because they will be the states that elect every president from that day forward. There is a reason mostly Democrats from big cities in these states want to get rid of the EC – and it’s one f the same reasons it was established.

Well of course a bunch of monsters would hate how our republic is run.

The electoral college was a stroke of genius by a group of people who had tasted the tyranny of a monarch. Would you give this up for control by one party?

The electoral college isn’t evil. It’s just wrong. We need to put the EC folks on TV and let the people see who they are and what they’re doing. That there is “reality TV” worth seeing.

Absent the Electoral College, the President would be chosen by a half dozen large urban areas. The rest of the country would have no say in who was elected.

The reasons for the Electoral College are still valid today. We are not a democracy where each vote is “equal”. We are a Republic (I did not say Republican) where each states votes are equal. The founders were concerned about large vs small states having balance. The same is true today as it was then.

I thought it was gonna be “the internet!?!”

I LOVE the Gravestyles!

Next week: The Gerrymanderers

Democrats don’t like the Electoral College because they don’t care about small states and are unable to concentrate on more than a few areas.

Term limits. And it does fester.

Two Trump supporters die and go to heaven

God meets them at the pearly gates and asks if they have any questions. One of them says, “Yes, what were the real results of the 2020 election and who was behind the fraud?”

God says, "My son, there was no fraud. Biden won the electoral college fair and square, 306 to 232.”

After a few seconds of stunned silence, the one guy turns to the other and whispers, “This goes higher up than we thought.”

The problem is made much worse by the fact that they froze the number of electors at 535 early in the 20th century instead of having them increase with the population. The Constitution allows for one Congressperson/Elector per 30,000 people. We are now at about 1 per 700,000.

If we used the population of the smallest state, Wyoming, as the equivalent of 1 elector, California would have 70 electoral votes instead of 55. As it is, a vote in Wyoming is worth almost 4 times as much as a vote in California.

It’s Affirmative Action for underpopulated areas.

I did the math. A voter in Wyoming has 3.5 times the voting power as a voter in California for president. So much for the myth of “One person, one vote.”

“The best argument against democracy is a five-minute talk with the average voter.” Winston Churchill

If reasoned debate is good for making decision, then today’s comments should open a lot of eyes about the importance of voting, like the candidates or not.

Momma’s feet never touch the floor. I likes…

The Electoral College is yet another example of our slavery past coming back to bite us in the butt.

The men who set up our country were brilliant. It’s like they could see into the future and knew what would happen without the Electoral College. You really need to study and learn why it exists.

SPOT ON. The EC needs to die. And never be heard from again. It favors a two-party system, and that’s how we got to the Us vs Them quagmire.

And yet, Biden was still elected, the U.S. is in worse shape, and people still complain about Republicans…

The idea was that electors would be honest, fair-minded people, as trustworthy as members of the Supreme Court, and they’d choose the most qualified candidate. You see the flaws in that, don’t you?

The Electoral College (and the Senate) are part of the US Constitution to protect low population/rural states from having their votes overwhelmed by states with big cities. The rural states would not have ratified the Constitution without these protections. The city vs farm dynamic is the oldest source of political tension in human history. Now a comic strip creator who thinks he is making an intelligent point wants to back out of the deal because the yokels don’t share his values and vote the way he thinks they should.

And thank God we still have the Electoral College. Without it, the most populous states, with the largest cities, would run roughshod over the rest of U.S.

I wonder who the monster is. But I have a good idea. And he is no longer MOTUS !

Republicons are monsters.

Mimi has an excellent shriek.

WITHOUT the Electoral College, all the states WITHOUT ‘high’ population cities, might as well form a Separate ‘USA’, since they would have NO say in electing Presidents. The ‘USA’ would be a democracy with California, New York, and Illinois deciding who is President. [Democracy: 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting on who’s for dinner.] Presidents would be radical Socialists like Michelle Obama [who hates white people] or communists like Bernie. NOT good for for ‘flyover states’!

BTW, yet another liberal idea from Nixon, he wanted the electoral college to go away! Along with getting national health insurance & the EPA. If he hadn’t been so paranoid, we’d have all of that today!

Wiley once again ventures out of humor and into political opinion, and once again demonstrates profound ignorance of both civics and history.

I believe today’s arguments about the electoral college is about treating the symptom and not the cause. If the American voter is so smart and wise, please explain why Trump and Biden are the primary choices we had for president in last election. When the best argument to be made is my guy is not as bad as yours, it is clear there is a problem. We somehow have to break apart the two-party system as it is the real cause of our problems. Both parties today represent the wills of rich white men and are not representative of the voices of the people. To break apart the monopoly, first, we need to eliminate political parties in the House of Representatives. Additional rules around gerrymandering likely would be needed to be improved as they currently break apart communities in attempt to accommodate a type of people. Grouping types of people into voting blocs may appear to help minority representation, but we are instead creating an environment where the extremes of both the left and the right get elected and not moderates that can understand the issues and concerns of all.

Looks like somebody doesn’t understand why the founding fathers enacted the electoral college. This country is a Constitutional/Federal Republic of 50 states. It is NOT a democracy and I’m sick and tired of people referring to it as such.

The Electoral College is a shameful relic of slavery that has imposed on the nation some of the worst, most corrupt so-called Presidents in American history.

Um; methinks it’s WHY/HOW the election(s) went is the reason for millions of complaints!

No one complained. It’s a comic strip

Succinct yet comprehensive. Well done!

I’ve seen more subtlety in freight train.

You have the right to make your vote mean whatever percentage your state has in the meaningless (now, anyway) Electoral College.

I’m okay with the electoral college, so long as right wingers stop congratulating themselves and trying to overwrite our liberties based on their supposed “mandate” from a minority of voters.

The scariest thing is i bet 90% of voters dont understand the electoral college impact on presidential elections.

Brilliant. This borders on child abuse! Next time stick to fiction.

“SERIOUSLY? THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE STORY?!”

(imagines a different version of this part of the dialogue of this cartoon)

YOU TOLD THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE STORY?!

It was to pacify the “small” states, i. e. slave states.

“AND IT STILL EXISTS?”

(imagines a different version of this part of the dialogue of this cartoon)

IT WAS REALLY SCARY, AND[!] IT STILL EXISTS

Just a thought and feel free to call it and me stupid, no hurt feelings. Every state has the same number of votes in the college. The coasts couldn’t control then and the majority in each state would still get the candidate they wanted. Wouldn’t this show the choice of all the people better ? Just a thought.

Enjoy your Electoral College diluted “vote.”

It never occurred to the founding fathers that one political party would emerge with such hatred of democracy. That some would crave power above all else that they would gerrymander their way to a “tyranny of the minority”. I live in one of those states where the veto proof legislature just set up their own secret police force. If you are caught in their web you can be sent to jail if you even consult a lawyer.

If you were born in this country and live here and pay taxes then I think you can complain whether you vote or not. I always vote and think people should but have always disagreed with the premise that you can’t complain if you don’t vote

Not voting is still a vote. Just not for who you want.

What did he tell her that gave her day mares ? The one about Citizens United ?

remember if you live in a big state your vote counts less than in you live in Wyoming.

There some comics strips, that bring the inane, banal, fatuous and stupid comments from the commenters who come out of the woodwork to type the inane, banal, fatuous and stupid comments, this is one of them…

And it prevents 3 cities from deciding the president of the entire United States so it is a good thing. Some people who agree with those 3 cities politics just can’t see that. However now those cities are finding out their politics don’t work in the real world.

Lame.

LOLOL — Very Clever ♥♥

Does he ever forget where he left his head?

It’s intended purpose has long since disappeared. Time to get with the times and vote directly. Think of the money the states will save not having to rent the horses for the Electors to ride to Washington for the voting.

The only positive spin I can see is that six states have not gerrymandered their congressional districts. Hint:———-Alaska, Delaware, the Dakotas, Vermont and Msomthing.

Definitely nightmare inducing.

Everyone remembers the dispute over the vote in Florida in 2000, but no one recalls the 50,000 disputed votes in New York that same year. Why? Because with the Electoral College, they didn’t impact the outcome. With a simple popular election nationwide, there’ll be an incentive to contest every single vote; it’ll be Florida 2000 nationwide, every election.

Also, one of the reasons for the Electoral College was to keep candidates from simply running up the score in a single state or section and dominating the rest. In 2016 Clinton’s popular vote victory was entirely due to California. There are a lot of people in red states who will not take kindly to having their fates decided by California or New York, and there are a lot of people in blue stats who will not take kindly to having their fates decided by Texas or Florida.

Hey, love the way Mom’s feet are off the ground. Nice touch.

It’s so sad that so few folks on the left understand the value and reasoning behind the electoral college.

Ignorance of the genius of the Electoral College is rampant

The electoral college exists for a very good reason, to keep 10% of the country from dominating 90% of the vote.