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If the Pattersonâs said, âSorry, not interestedâ, would they be kicked out of that âfreeâ luncheon? Or be forced to pay for it? Seems that scams like that get by more in Mexico than in the US and Canada!
Okay Dr. Patterson, itâs time to go full bore on this slimy weasel. Give him both barrels and make sure he doesnât accept any other answer than âNO!â
The more they push something the less of a good deal it turns out to be. Those warranties are the biggest scam. If I buy an appliance that doesnât last 90 days youâre going to hear about it.
We actually loved ours. It was only after Dale passed and I didnât want to go aloneâŠso glad to finally be rid of it. It was on the hill in Carlsbad CA overlooking the flower fields. We had the same unit every year. Almost like it was our own Condo. We also stayed at the one on the Strip here in Vegas when we visited the kids, and stayed at the one in Honolulu.
My in-laws had a timeshare in the US Virgin Islands. When they tried to sell it, we discovered that the deed to them had never been signed. I had to get the US Attorneyâs office involved to get it straightened out. They told me that stuff happens all the time. Itâs a very sleazy business.
These timeshare companies like Wyndham⊠they have spent literally millions of man hours on sociologists, psychologists, behavior experts, etc., to train their salespeople on how to tap into certain emotions within folks to get them to sign up. For every reason why you might say ânoâ to their timeshare, they will have at least 10 âyesâ responses as to why you should. They will come at you from every mental/emotional angle there is⊠happiness, pride, fulfillment, jealousy, the fear of âmissing outâ, even shame and self-loathing. Iâve sat through a few of those presentations. In one, I had a guy even ask me: âWhat kind of a man goes running to his wife for permission for something as important as this is? You know whatâs best, and she should understand that!â They are trained to drag it out and run you down for as long as it takes for you to sign up. They will cram 40 people into a small room for the 90 minute presentation, so it becomes really hot, to physically get you tired and worn down. You have to be very mentally tough to stand up to these people. The intimidation factor is a huge part of it too. They know that theyâve got you in their own space. And although they canât physically stop you from getting up and leaving, they make you feel trapped and vulnerable. And it isnât just when you go to a resort like this. If you ever go to the mall and see a car thatâs being raffled off, and you enter the drawing, some weeks later youâll get an invitation in the mail saying that youâve won a prize and that you need to go to a certain location/time in order to collect it⊠but you have to sit through a âshort presentationâ first. Thatâs how I initially got roped into sitting through one of these. My big question was âwho won the car?â, but I could never get a straight answerâŠ
They are extremely predatory, and they donât care whether or not you can afford it, or if it financially destroys your life. They just want your money. And donât expect any help from the government to pass laws clamping down on this crap, because this so-called âentertainment industryâ does whatever they can to keep politicians at all levels well-greased and taken care of.
From Lynnâs Comments: There is an art to the timeshare sales pitch and there are several layers to the âsell.â No matter how hard you try to argue against it, you can be coerced into believing you are making an investment.
This gives me nightmares. I got conned into one of these presentations at Branson MO> They used two salesmen on me and my wife. The only thing we could do was get up and walk away. They were mad because we had two donuts apiece and did not buy.
I miss the time share salesmen. The wife and I attended a couple of the âFree Dinnersâ that were usually at a really good restaurant. We would go, eat dinner, and then leave, over their protestations. It only took two or three free steak dinners and the word go out. Weâve never been pestered by time share salesmen, or investment counselors since. Itâs amazing how their sales pitch changes and fades when they find out the wife is a Sr. V.P. at a financial institution in charge of the wealth management division.
I saw these as scams right from the git-go. Took the free offering, said weâd think about it and never get back to them. Both time share outfits in our area at the time went bankrupt in a couple years.
When the sales guy said âyes you canâ afford it, John should have told him off! One kid in college, another going in a couple years (assuming Elizabeth gets accepted), doesnât leave $$ for the time share scam.
Lynn must have had a really bad encounter with the timeshare world. She definitely likes to poke fun at the foolish/dumb parts of the world but this arc is really dark and evil for her!
The sales pitch we got was they try to make you excited about traveling. They didnât even discuss finances, and didnât even mention the annual dues
Another shady tactic timeshares use is similar to the old âbait and switchâ. For example, they will offer three different options for you to buy in⊠green at $3k, yellow at $8k, and red at $15k. You resist the red, but you can accept the green. So, you sign up. Then you go to book a vacation, and you quickly find out that there are all sorts of restrictions and blackouts for green members. You have, maybe, a 30% chance of getting what you want. So, you call the member hotline to complain. They explain about the programs and tell you that your odds are better if you upgrade to yellow, and much better if you upgrade to red. And since youâre now a member and you canât easily leave, you have a few options: 1. Pay more money to upgrade, or 2. Suffer in your current level, or 3. Pay a lot of money to a lawyer to get you out. Either way, youâre going to be paying those creeps a whole lot more money.
In Cabo years ago there was so much competition among the time share vendors that they promised and delivered on enticements beyond lunch to get you to attend. They tried to sell us by saying they had locations everyplace we wanted to go. Then they asked where our next trip was planned. Zambia. Checked their guidebook. No â how about past destinations? Bolivian altiplano â no. Bulgaria â no. (Solar eclipses typically donât occur near resorts.) I did get a half day excursion to the gray whales lagoons out of the deal.
Instead of a week in paradise we get a week of obnoxious instead, what, no Mexico stereotypes ? Ugliest thing to get rid of after the fact is a Timeshare, but you knew that , right ? ;-)
And there is almost never availability when you want to use it. Friends had it where there was a selection of properties to choose from for your week but the one you actually wanted was never available.
Ten years ago, my brother and his wife wanted us to buy into a time share. Went to a dinner and listen to their speech. Then they separated the couples and begin the sales pitch. I said, âNo.â My wife wanted to think about it. That caused the salesman to go into full blown hard sale. I said, âThere is no way in, you know whereâ. They even said they would reduce the price and throw in exta. I told my wife to come one. I went to get my brother and he had already signed.
Ten years later, my brother has a lawyer and trying to get out of the time share. It has done nothing but cost him money. Itâs a hole that you throw cash in. My wife tells me how smart I am.
Itâs very easy to come up with an argument against itâŠâYou said âno strings attached.â Weâre going to the beach. This will be the last we see of you, and if you persist, you might need to find a new dentist. Oh, by the wayâŠâ
They canât kick anyone out for not buying the timeshare. They misled their guests with a fake brunch activity. Not guestsâ fault. They hoped to guilt them into buying because their brunch was free. The guests are not obligated to buy. Hope John and Elly realize that.
Asharah 1 day ago
What if they donât want to go to the same place for vacation every year?
AB9SS 1 day ago
And the property remains with your family FOREVER! With increases in your yearly maintenance fees FOREVER!
The Great_Black President 1 day ago
John is a rich dentist. He can afford it.
Coopersdad 1 day ago
RUNâŠâŠâŠ..AND NEVER LOOK BACK ! ! ! ! !
angelolady Premium Member 1 day ago
What a creep. But then, I hate to be âsold to.â
MichaelAxelFleming 1 day ago
time share = fly paper
9thCapricorn 1 day ago
That guy is scary. John and EllyâŠrun.
snsurone76 1 day ago
If the Pattersonâs said, âSorry, not interestedâ, would they be kicked out of that âfreeâ luncheon? Or be forced to pay for it? Seems that scams like that get by more in Mexico than in the US and Canada!
Baarorso 1 day ago
Geez. this guy is pushing harder than one of those Japanese people who shove people on to subways to make sure that theyâre fully packed.
Baarorso 1 day ago
Okay Dr. Patterson, itâs time to go full bore on this slimy weasel. Give him both barrels and make sure he doesnât accept any other answer than âNO!â
kittygatos 1 day ago
The more they push something the less of a good deal it turns out to be. Those warranties are the biggest scam. If I buy an appliance that doesnât last 90 days youâre going to hear about it.
Last Rose Of Summer Premium Member 1 day ago
We actually loved ours. It was only after Dale passed and I didnât want to go aloneâŠso glad to finally be rid of it. It was on the hill in Carlsbad CA overlooking the flower fields. We had the same unit every year. Almost like it was our own Condo. We also stayed at the one on the Strip here in Vegas when we visited the kids, and stayed at the one in Honolulu.
mccollunsky 1 day ago
That face in panel 4 is a good argument against and 2 both of his faces in panel 2. His face in general.
cracker65 1 day ago
Donât do it
rob.home 1 day ago
I thought modern-day dentists could afford anything, especially by middle age?
cmxx 1 day ago
How can John and Elly not know The Truth about timeshares?
M2MM 1 day ago
Figures donât lie, but liars will figure. DONâT believe anything a timeshare operative tells you. >:-(
GirlGeek Premium Member 1 day ago
This is what happens when youâre trapped in a âfree lunch,â
bobpickett1 1 day ago
eat and run
Old recluse 1 day ago
That guy should run for office. He would fit right in.
kaycstamper 1 day ago
Theyâre caving too soon, look at that guyâs face, run!!!
janis nerowski 1 day ago
be wary of vacation clubs too
minty_Joe 1 day ago
Donât do it, John and Elly. Better have your pepper spray at the ready.
JD_Rhoades 1 day ago
My in-laws had a timeshare in the US Virgin Islands. When they tried to sell it, we discovered that the deed to them had never been signed. I had to get the US Attorneyâs office involved to get it straightened out. They told me that stuff happens all the time. Itâs a very sleazy business.
French Persons' Savvy Selection of Screaming Elly Premium Member 1 day ago
These timeshare companies like Wyndham⊠they have spent literally millions of man hours on sociologists, psychologists, behavior experts, etc., to train their salespeople on how to tap into certain emotions within folks to get them to sign up. For every reason why you might say ânoâ to their timeshare, they will have at least 10 âyesâ responses as to why you should. They will come at you from every mental/emotional angle there is⊠happiness, pride, fulfillment, jealousy, the fear of âmissing outâ, even shame and self-loathing. Iâve sat through a few of those presentations. In one, I had a guy even ask me: âWhat kind of a man goes running to his wife for permission for something as important as this is? You know whatâs best, and she should understand that!â They are trained to drag it out and run you down for as long as it takes for you to sign up. They will cram 40 people into a small room for the 90 minute presentation, so it becomes really hot, to physically get you tired and worn down. You have to be very mentally tough to stand up to these people. The intimidation factor is a huge part of it too. They know that theyâve got you in their own space. And although they canât physically stop you from getting up and leaving, they make you feel trapped and vulnerable. And it isnât just when you go to a resort like this. If you ever go to the mall and see a car thatâs being raffled off, and you enter the drawing, some weeks later youâll get an invitation in the mail saying that youâve won a prize and that you need to go to a certain location/time in order to collect it⊠but you have to sit through a âshort presentationâ first. Thatâs how I initially got roped into sitting through one of these. My big question was âwho won the car?â, but I could never get a straight answerâŠ
French Persons' Savvy Selection of Screaming Elly Premium Member 1 day ago
They are extremely predatory, and they donât care whether or not you can afford it, or if it financially destroys your life. They just want your money. And donât expect any help from the government to pass laws clamping down on this crap, because this so-called âentertainment industryâ does whatever they can to keep politicians at all levels well-greased and taken care of.
Robert4170 1 day ago
The look of disgust and disappointment on the pitchmanâs face when I said no was almost palpable.
duane.rezac 1 day ago
one nasty item in may time share scams is that they are set up to pass on to your children, so they have to deal with it after your death.
birkemeyerjulie 1 day ago
My niece and her hubby have one. I do worry about all of this for them.
subterrain44 1 day ago
RUN AWAY RUN AWAY!!!!!
loubarra 1 day ago
Timeshares are a nightmare
Willywise52 Premium Member 1 day ago
Ugh.
scote1379 Premium Member 1 day ago
Old saying , This smell many day Dead ! ( Like the cologne the scam artist using )
baskate_2000 1 day ago
Find it, and say NO to this schmazza!
Gizmo Cat 1 day ago
From Lynnâs Comments: There is an art to the timeshare sales pitch and there are several layers to the âsell.â No matter how hard you try to argue against it, you can be coerced into believing you are making an investment.
Watchdog 1 day ago
The cartoonist has absolutely captured the ****centric facial characteristics and spiel of the grin*** sales personnel in touristy Mexico beach areas.
tswinn01 Premium Member 1 day ago
This gives me nightmares. I got conned into one of these presentations at Branson MO> They used two salesmen on me and my wife. The only thing we could do was get up and walk away. They were mad because we had two donuts apiece and did not buy.
Uhohcroc 1 day ago
Heâs all teeth! BEWARE!!
Chris 1 day ago
youâve been smiling like that too long havenât you. is that why your face froze like that ya creep. :j
rlfekete1 Premium Member 1 day ago
Just No! That guy is creepy.
Daltongang Premium Member 1 day ago
I miss the time share salesmen. The wife and I attended a couple of the âFree Dinnersâ that were usually at a really good restaurant. We would go, eat dinner, and then leave, over their protestations. It only took two or three free steak dinners and the word go out. Weâve never been pestered by time share salesmen, or investment counselors since. Itâs amazing how their sales pitch changes and fades when they find out the wife is a Sr. V.P. at a financial institution in charge of the wealth management division.
ctolson 1 day ago
I saw these as scams right from the git-go. Took the free offering, said weâd think about it and never get back to them. Both time share outfits in our area at the time went bankrupt in a couple years.
jennrb2010 1 day ago
When the sales guy said âyes you canâ afford it, John should have told him off! One kid in college, another going in a couple years (assuming Elizabeth gets accepted), doesnât leave $$ for the time share scam.
BlitzMcD about 24 hours ago
Itâll be convenient for Smiley there if John puts his lights out. He wonât have far to go to the dentist to get his teeth fixed.
rebelstrike0 about 24 hours ago
Blair looks like Rhettaâs brother Lorne.
ladykat Premium Member about 24 hours ago
John, Ellie, run â donât walk, run fast â to the nearest exit.
[Unnamed Reader - bddb15] about 23 hours ago
This initially entertaining arc has become verypainful.
ryanschafer77 about 23 hours ago
Lynn must have had a really bad encounter with the timeshare world. She definitely likes to poke fun at the foolish/dumb parts of the world but this arc is really dark and evil for her!
DawnQuinn1 about 23 hours ago
Try switching times with someone else. Never happen. Glad I never got caught up in that scam.
MuddyUSA Premium Member about 23 hours ago
What a sleaze ballâŠâŠ..
stamps about 22 hours ago
Donât forget tax, tip and service charge. And thereâs probably an HOA.
Spacetech about 22 hours ago
EVIL TRASH.
mindjob about 22 hours ago
The sales pitch we got was they try to make you excited about traveling. They didnât even discuss finances, and didnât even mention the annual dues
John Jorgensen about 22 hours ago
You donât need to make a convincing argument, though. âIâm not interestedâ is more than enough.
French Persons' Savvy Selection of Screaming Elly Premium Member about 22 hours ago
Another shady tactic timeshares use is similar to the old âbait and switchâ. For example, they will offer three different options for you to buy in⊠green at $3k, yellow at $8k, and red at $15k. You resist the red, but you can accept the green. So, you sign up. Then you go to book a vacation, and you quickly find out that there are all sorts of restrictions and blackouts for green members. You have, maybe, a 30% chance of getting what you want. So, you call the member hotline to complain. They explain about the programs and tell you that your odds are better if you upgrade to yellow, and much better if you upgrade to red. And since youâre now a member and you canât easily leave, you have a few options: 1. Pay more money to upgrade, or 2. Suffer in your current level, or 3. Pay a lot of money to a lawyer to get you out. Either way, youâre going to be paying those creeps a whole lot more money.
megerkey about 22 hours ago
I have the best argument, Get out of my face before I break your nose!
CLaudiaAnn Premium Member about 21 hours ago
In Cabo years ago there was so much competition among the time share vendors that they promised and delivered on enticements beyond lunch to get you to attend. They tried to sell us by saying they had locations everyplace we wanted to go. Then they asked where our next trip was planned. Zambia. Checked their guidebook. No â how about past destinations? Bolivian altiplano â no. Bulgaria â no. (Solar eclipses typically donât occur near resorts.) I did get a half day excursion to the gray whales lagoons out of the deal.
interstateking Premium Member about 21 hours ago
BUY BUY BUY!!
lnrokr55 about 21 hours ago
Instead of a week in paradise we get a week of obnoxious instead, what, no Mexico stereotypes ? Ugliest thing to get rid of after the fact is a Timeshare, but you knew that , right ? ;-)
kaystari Premium Member about 21 hours ago
Ohmygosh, so creepy, his âsmileâ would make me want to say mo and leave immediately
The Pro from Dover about 21 hours ago
One little word with a big impact. NO! Then run away. And donât trip over those strings.
nmbassani about 21 hours ago
And there is almost never availability when you want to use it. Friends had it where there was a selection of properties to choose from for your week but the one you actually wanted was never available.
waynemadison about 21 hours ago
This guyâs face just cracks me up. And Iâm surprised John is falling for this!
coffeeturtle about 20 hours ago
can we get back to our âfreeâ lunch, please?
serial232 about 20 hours ago
Ten years ago, my brother and his wife wanted us to buy into a time share. Went to a dinner and listen to their speech. Then they separated the couples and begin the sales pitch. I said, âNo.â My wife wanted to think about it. That caused the salesman to go into full blown hard sale. I said, âThere is no way in, you know whereâ. They even said they would reduce the price and throw in exta. I told my wife to come one. I went to get my brother and he had already signed.
Ten years later, my brother has a lawyer and trying to get out of the time share. It has done nothing but cost him money. Itâs a hole that you throw cash in. My wife tells me how smart I am.
heligoland about 19 hours ago
Run. NOW.
pheets about 18 hours ago
Donât do it! Easier to get into Fort Knox than out of a time share deal.
raybarb44 about 15 hours ago
Remember to count your fingers after you shake hands with himâŠâŠ.
g04922 about 15 hours ago
Wow! I did not realize this scam was as old as this comic stripâŠ
rob about 13 hours ago
Just punch those teeth in John then offer to fix them.
HodgeElmwood about 13 hours ago
I once told a travel agent that I couldnât afford to travel. He told me, âAt these prices, you canât afford NOT to.â I hung up.
Scoutmaster77 about 12 hours ago
A shysterâŠ
tinstar about 12 hours ago
Itâs very easy to come up with an argument against itâŠâYou said âno strings attached.â Weâre going to the beach. This will be the last we see of you, and if you persist, you might need to find a new dentist. Oh, by the wayâŠâ
9thCapricorn about 11 hours ago
They canât kick anyone out for not buying the timeshare. They misled their guests with a fake brunch activity. Not guestsâ fault. They hoped to guilt them into buying because their brunch was free. The guests are not obligated to buy. Hope John and Elly realize that.
[Unnamed Reader - 14b4ce] about 1 hour ago
Watch it ,toothless!!
John has a drill and a pair of pliers and he knows how to use them!