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Because in the course of this discussion, it is possisble that you might improve not only your understanding of English literature, but also your own abilities to converse, to think, and to communicate more effectively.
We never learn how the Montague/Capulet feud got started in the first place. Could it have been a dispute over a pig like the Hatfields vs the McCoys??
Never take any drastic action unless and until you have direct first person communications. Do not trust even second person messages except as a need for more direct communications.
Is this where I get to say that this story is only a tragedy because Friar Laurenceâs messenger is slower than molasses in January? While he dawdled about delivering Friarâs message to Romeo that Juliet was NOT dead, only âsleepingâ until that night when he could take her off to where heâd been banished to, Romeoâs friend got there first and told Romeo that Juliet was dead! Romeo shows up and kills himself thinking sheâs dead, then she wakes up immediately afterward! If that durned messenger had hightailed it like he should have, Romeo wouldâve gotten the message!
Isnât the phrase: âCompare and Contrastâ? Thankfully, I never had to do that as I donât even know what it means. I think it is just teacher jargon.
âBecause this project is going to make you so miserable, that by the time youâre done with it you will have made up your mind that whatever major you pick when you get to college, it absolutely for sure wonât be âliberal arts.â Believe me, itâs for your own good."
Didja ever noticethat, in any film, Paul Newman never needed a shave? Watched Hombre the other day. A week out in the badlands and Paul was still clean shaven. What a guy!
Todayâs strip would have Elly, John, Michael, Elizabeth and April out in the street pumping their fists and saying in unison: âEh eh, oh oh, Justin Trudeauâs got to go!â
Being a former teacher of English, literature, and composition, this strip brings back many memories. The childâs question is exactly what I began to think in my second or third year of my thirty-year career.
I wonât go into all of the many reasons. That would require an essay of considerable length.
Itâs Shakespeare, and analyzing Shakespeare is a time-honored method of teaching. This is sometimes referred to as the âItâs a bypass. Youâve got to build bypasses.â argument.
Probably the most spine chilling thing I could hear in class when in Junior high school or High school was "Ok, form in groups of 3 or 4 and work on. . . " I suppose I donât play well with others.
I really donât like the whole âtranslate Shakespeare into modern dialogueâ idea, especially when that translation ends up being in prose. Shakespeare was a poet, so much of his dialogue carries multiple layers of meaning, and itâs obvious that tremendous effort was made to craft each sentence just so. Stripping all that away greatly impoverishes the work.
There seems to be the idea that this somehow makes it easier for students to understand, as if Elizabethan blank verse were completely beyond them. Itâs not. In fact, the ability to push its cadence into a specific template is one of the things that opens it up to being understood more easily. Thatâs one reason it was universally employed on the stage in those days: Actors could, and still can, memorize these long monologues and soliloquies more easily by ensuring that they match up with a chanted âbuh DUH buh DUH buh DUH buh DUH buh DUH.â Itâs like memorizing song lyrics. And having memorized them, meaning can be extracted much more deeply.
Yes, itâs necessary to familiarize students with a lot of obsolete vocabulary, but since when is that undesirable? Itâs an enriching experience. And this isnât just crotchity old me saying so. I clearly remember being in ninth grade English and being given a crash course in constructing Shakespearean insults. Later that day, at lunch and on the bus, my classmates and I were constantly hitting one another with things like âThou wh-reson, runnp-fed rabbit sucker!â
EDIT: Seems GoComicsâ bot is impoverishing the language by forcing me to substitute dopey misspellings in that last line.
Answer: âGetting a good education is very important. Until you graduate college, you are lower than whale excreta at the bottom of the ocean. Dropouts are second-class citizens.â
yeh, back when it was a âthingâ, Latin. as in needing to be able to pick up any actor in Julius Caesar and ace it in Latin, a course requirement to graduate from high school. i have not used one bit of that drivel since 1969.
I never understood ruining a good story, whatever the book was, by trying to dissect it. I loved reading literature in school, whether it was Tom Sawyer or Grapes of Wrath, but I always hated trying to dissect the story for meaning, and then report it. Iâve a whole library of science fiction/fantasy that Iâve read, and loved every one of them, but never do I want to try to report on why this or why that. By the way, one of my favorite authors: Terry Brooks!!! Discworld Series!!!
I hated being made to work in groups. I was always the kid that got left out and had to be shoehorned into a group because there wasnât an even number of kids in the class.
Hey, itâs a valid question. Sometimes you learn more from an exercise if you understand why youâre doing it. (Even if Bad Hair Kid didnât actually mean it that way.)
Because your survival in the world will likely depend on you carrying out instructions which you do not see the importance of, in order to receive a paycheck.
9thCapricorn 2 months ago
Sort of a complicated activity.
GeorgeInAZ 2 months ago
Itâs called learning.
snsurone76 2 months ago
Did he just wander in from the âArchieâ strip? This is something Jughead would ask.
cmxx 2 months ago
Because in the course of this discussion, it is possisble that you might improve not only your understanding of English literature, but also your own abilities to converse, to think, and to communicate more effectively.
snsurone76 2 months ago
We never learn how the Montague/Capulet feud got started in the first place. Could it have been a dispute over a pig like the Hatfields vs the McCoys??
Johnny Q Premium Member 2 months ago
âBecause I said so! Want a smack?â
MReese 2 months ago
â10% of your final grade. Any other questions?â
PoodleGroomer 2 months ago
Never take any drastic action unless and until you have direct first person communications. Do not trust even second person messages except as a need for more direct communications.
DirkTheDaring Premium Member 2 months ago
Best question ever.
Last Rose Of Summer Premium Member 2 months ago
Exactly.
Coinman 2 months ago
Anybody ever notice how often teachers ssy, âI wantâŠ?â
French Persons' Savvy Selection of Screaming Elly Premium Member 2 months ago
âHur-dee-hurr-hurr because itâs funny!â
Macushlalondra 2 months ago
Is this where I get to say that this story is only a tragedy because Friar Laurenceâs messenger is slower than molasses in January? While he dawdled about delivering Friarâs message to Romeo that Juliet was NOT dead, only âsleepingâ until that night when he could take her off to where heâd been banished to, Romeoâs friend got there first and told Romeo that Juliet was dead! Romeo shows up and kills himself thinking sheâs dead, then she wakes up immediately afterward! If that durned messenger had hightailed it like he should have, Romeo wouldâve gotten the message!
cowboy27 2 months ago
Donât count on it. The education they get today would more likely cause them to initiate a âpeaceful protestâ and start burning up the books.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member 2 months ago
Isnât the phrase: âCompare and Contrastâ? Thankfully, I never had to do that as I donât even know what it means. I think it is just teacher jargon.
baskate_2000 2 months ago
Amen!
EMGULS79 2 months ago
âBecause this project is going to make you so miserable, that by the time youâre done with it you will have made up your mind that whatever major you pick when you get to college, it absolutely for sure wonât be âliberal arts.â Believe me, itâs for your own good."
ctolson 2 months ago
To be or not to be in a group of four or three, that is the question. Oops, wrong play.
Chris 2 months ago
great question⊠you all are still doing it. :j
desertinutah1951 2 months ago
Iâm 73 and Iâve noticed over the years that people know and understand less and less. Kill your television, reject social media, and read.
AugustTreff1 2 months ago
Iâm still scratching my head over being taught the difference between whisky and whiskey in junior high school.
Will_Scarlet 2 months ago
Now youâre summarizing Hamlet, sonâŠ
Redd Panda 2 months ago
âFail to communicateâ? Cool Hand Luke?
Didja ever noticethat, in any film, Paul Newman never needed a shave? Watched Hombre the other day. A week out in the badlands and Paul was still clean shaven. What a guy!
Angry Indeed Premium Member 2 months ago
âWhat we have he-ah is a failure to communicate!â Rod Steiger
gammaguy 2 months ago
âWhy?â
âIn order to justify my being paid to be here.â
starfighter441 2 months ago
Why is always a valid question.
rshive 2 months ago
Wrong question.
dsidney49 2 months ago
Teacher wants to learn them talk English goodly!!
GKBOWOOD Premium Member 2 months ago
I always hated doing groups in school. Teacher, just discuss and engage with the class as a whole!!
The Great_Black President 2 months ago
Todayâs strip would have Elly, John, Michael, Elizabeth and April out in the street pumping their fists and saying in unison: âEh eh, oh oh, Justin Trudeauâs got to go!â
jarvisloop 2 months ago
Being a former teacher of English, literature, and composition, this strip brings back many memories. The childâs question is exactly what I began to think in my second or third year of my thirty-year career.
I wonât go into all of the many reasons. That would require an essay of considerable length.
pheets 2 months ago
Seriously. And do it without the assistance of available tech, just for the chance to try new things.. THEN you might learn how to communicate.
ladykat Premium Member 2 months ago
We did the same thing, but with âThe Taming of the Shrewâ.
PassinThru 2 months ago
Itâs Shakespeare, and analyzing Shakespeare is a time-honored method of teaching. This is sometimes referred to as the âItâs a bypass. Youâve got to build bypasses.â argument.
BJDucer 2 months ago
Probably the most spine chilling thing I could hear in class when in Junior high school or High school was "Ok, form in groups of 3 or 4 and work on. . . " I suppose I donât play well with others.
JPuzzleWhiz 2 months ago
âBecause Iâll give you an âFâ if you donât!â O<[|;o)
ChuckAnziulewicz 2 months ago
There is a good point here. In my experience the very best teachers donât just teach, they also explain WHY what theyâre teaching is important.
Medtech4 2 months ago
So you can answer pub trivia questions that no one else would know, obviously!
indysteve9 2 months ago
I hated these group participations. I preferred to do it on my own.
John Jorgensen 2 months ago
I really donât like the whole âtranslate Shakespeare into modern dialogueâ idea, especially when that translation ends up being in prose. Shakespeare was a poet, so much of his dialogue carries multiple layers of meaning, and itâs obvious that tremendous effort was made to craft each sentence just so. Stripping all that away greatly impoverishes the work.
There seems to be the idea that this somehow makes it easier for students to understand, as if Elizabethan blank verse were completely beyond them. Itâs not. In fact, the ability to push its cadence into a specific template is one of the things that opens it up to being understood more easily. Thatâs one reason it was universally employed on the stage in those days: Actors could, and still can, memorize these long monologues and soliloquies more easily by ensuring that they match up with a chanted âbuh DUH buh DUH buh DUH buh DUH buh DUH.â Itâs like memorizing song lyrics. And having memorized them, meaning can be extracted much more deeply.
Yes, itâs necessary to familiarize students with a lot of obsolete vocabulary, but since when is that undesirable? Itâs an enriching experience. And this isnât just crotchity old me saying so. I clearly remember being in ninth grade English and being given a crash course in constructing Shakespearean insults. Later that day, at lunch and on the bus, my classmates and I were constantly hitting one another with things like âThou wh-reson, runnp-fed rabbit sucker!â
EDIT: Seems GoComicsâ bot is impoverishing the language by forcing me to substitute dopey misspellings in that last line.
rebelstrike0 2 months ago
Trudeau just took a walk in the snow.
Asharah 2 months ago
English class can take all the fun out of reading.
The Great_Black President 2 months ago
Answer: âGetting a good education is very important. Until you graduate college, you are lower than whale excreta at the bottom of the ocean. Dropouts are second-class citizens.â
kamoolah 2 months ago
Today is the Black Monday of Canada. The wokest leader has been put to sleep.
CoffeeBob Premium Member 2 months ago
Maybe discuss why an 16 year old is trying to date a 13 year old? In modern day language please.
lnrokr55 2 months ago
3âs company, Shakespeare, itâs the one with some sort of misunderstanding, right ??? ;-)
[Unnamed Reader - 14b4ce] 2 months ago
The kids communicated great. It was the adults who were morons
Jingles 2 months ago
yeh, back when it was a âthingâ, Latin. as in needing to be able to pick up any actor in Julius Caesar and ace it in Latin, a course requirement to graduate from high school. i have not used one bit of that drivel since 1969.
Scoutmaster77 2 months ago
Well young man, hereâs your broom thenâŠ
62kathleenhicks 2 months ago
Still, why?
skolinger1 2 months ago
Because thatâs the assignment.
Robert Miller Premium Member 2 months ago
I never understood ruining a good story, whatever the book was, by trying to dissect it. I loved reading literature in school, whether it was Tom Sawyer or Grapes of Wrath, but I always hated trying to dissect the story for meaning, and then report it. Iâve a whole library of science fiction/fantasy that Iâve read, and loved every one of them, but never do I want to try to report on why this or why that. By the way, one of my favorite authors: Terry Brooks!!! Discworld Series!!!
HodgeElmwood 2 months ago
I hated being made to work in groups. I was always the kid that got left out and had to be shoehorned into a group because there wasnât an even number of kids in the class.
Strawberry King 2 months ago
âDo as I told you "
CodeMouse92 2 months ago
Hey, itâs a valid question. Sometimes you learn more from an exercise if you understand why youâre doing it. (Even if Bad Hair Kid didnât actually mean it that way.)
mistercatworks 2 months ago
He needs a remedial course on the nature of âschoolingâ.
christelisbetty 2 months ago
My favorite teacher had us reading Romeo and Juliet side by side with the music from West Side Story.
AB9SS 2 months ago
cmxx stated it concisely. Nicely done!
Chalres 2 months ago
Because your survival in the world will likely depend on you carrying out instructions which you do not see the importance of, in order to receive a paycheck.