Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for March 23, 2016
March 22, 2016
March 24, 2016
Transcript:
Piro: A mug. thanks. Tiffany: Anytime you want a little pick me up, come see me. Tiffany: how do you like your coffee, Piro? I like mine full bodied and steamy hot. Piro: Oh. Well, gotta run. Tiffany: Oopsie! Look! button broke!
-I can remember when Gunther was tutoring Tiffany and suddenly decided that he Bernice was the woman he needed. Despite all Tiffany’s efforts to keep him there (telling him she could make coffee, too, and suddenly finding another math problem she needed help with), Gunther didn’t even hear her, and left on his ‘mission’ to convince Bernice they belonged together.
And now Tiffany tries with the coffee and a missing button, and gets no reaction from Piro. Or at least not the reaction she expected.
Will Tiffany learn anything from this? (Will Gunther?)
by the way, no evidence of a skort yesterdaysad that no matter how hot, Tiffany just flamed out.Age is sneaking up on her.Pretty soon she won’t be able to raise the dead with a twitch.
KInda hoping Tiff goes back in, realized just how hot Gunther got looking at her. Perhaps they both hit the reset button and try heating themselves back up.
Extending the drama here again. Not sure if, or how, Piro might react to Tiffany’s last little gambit with the button. Drama!! My bet is that he keeps on walking. No effect. Tiffany will be crushed, and Gunther will be the one who comforts her. Or…Bernice opens her door, and Piro goes to her in some way. Again Tiffany would be crushed, and Gunther will have very conflicted emotions. Those are two scenarios, I am sure there are many other, but I think it will be a version of either of those.
The fact that Gunther is in the room with Tiffany would have to give Piro a very mixed signal.Tiffany may be acting like she wants Piro to come in for a romantic interlude, but the fact that she already has another guy in the room would likely indicate to Piro that no such experience is going to take place between himself and Tiff, even if that was what he wanted.
Nice job Tiff! However we haven’t seen anything that Piro is interested in. We are entitled to eventually find out what’s with this guy. In the meantime, not to worry about Berneice and Piro – or Berneice and Gunther… Tiff is suddenly showing us that she IS an actress. Gunther – Hug her!
I see it all now: Tiff is going to have her moment of self-doubt, Gunther will comfort her, they will be drawn closer to each other, and then. . . Greg chickens out and we’re force to watch some PG rated cop out.
Now, given that Piro has been in her place before it would seem that some communication went on. I bet when they were alone, Tiffany just was natural—as with Gunther.If you are going to act, playing hard to get is better. Piro’s interested and experiences are much different than our little group.What we know: he eats popcorn, likes silent movies, needs a place to sleep. Doesn’t mean he’s gay, a vet with residual problems (wait, he would have a GI Bill and less money problems, no?). Tiffany needs to give up the tease. It isn’t working and she has a much better time being open and honest with Gunther.
I’m not persuaded that Piro could see Gunther, if you study the geometry of the first panel. He may not have realized that Gunther was there, but he still doesn’t much want to pursue anything with an obviously “interested” Tiffany.
Piro strikes me as a character with unexplored depths, I don;t want to think that Team Evans will just “reveal” that he’s gay and let that be the resolution. They’ve invested plenty of time in suggesting that there’s more going on behind that star…
But then, this strip is also known for huge, drawn-out buildups leading to a very predictable and ho-hum resolution. I’d like to think Karen is maturing as a writer as she and Greg bring their characters into a new stage of their lives.
I also can’t help remembering that Gunther is a costumer. Tiffany will certainly have a sewing kit in her suite. So Gunther will have a perfectly reasonable excuse for telling Tiffany to take her top off so he can fix that dratted button…
Tiffany is hilarious today. That guy must be some kind of zombie or something. Tiff, Gunther sews. I’m sure he could fix that button for you. Probably wouldn’t even have to take it off. Nah, on second thought, his hands would be shaking too much.
One thing we’ve learned about Piro is he’s rude. You don’t show up, take a gift, and then leave immediately without any conversation. I’m wondering if he’s going to have autism.
so, comic relief aside, wasn’t the entire point of the exercise for her to Distract him while he goes after Bernie… I mean “watch how it’s done” is great and all, but I would definitely think something was up if a girl was trying to “turn up the heat” with me while she’s got a male friend in the room
A mug! What a great “extra” gift to keep wrapped up. 1) It’s an invitation to future coffee dates and 2) I’ve got about 20 in storage I’d be glad to get rid of!
My bet is that Piro isn’t gay. He’s just not impressed. Or his current focus in life just doesn’t include that, for whatever reason. But I’m doubting that that reason could have anything to do with any orientation towards males. He just continues to be an enigma.Meanwhile — Hey Gunth! You’re REALLY good at sewing buttons back on, right? And that top would need to be removed first so that you could do that, right? (Hint, hint). Or is that too much to handle? Well, at least hug and kiss her, you fool! :)
8Interesting day today! I am actually happy that Tiffany’s prior “tease” strategies did not work with Piro. From my perspective, I think the lack of success of that strategy is a good one for Tiffany to experience to hopefully reinforce her new development towards her kinder, more thoughtful self. If her “tease” would have easily worked, it would have instead reinforced the prior Tiffany behaviors and actions. Someone before me in the comments suggested that Tiffany’s “button off” action may lead to seamstress Gunther working to fix the situation. This could be quite fun, and if done well, could actually lead both Tiff and Gunther one step closer to a blossoming romantic interest in each other that so many of us have been rooting for. There are many reasons I see for Piro not becoming engaged by Tiffany’s “tease”…. 1) Perhaps he has a girlfriend (perhaps at Moony or some other campus or community) and is actually a faithful guy and ignores the “tease”, 2) Perhaps he is a socially unaware fellow (like Gunther is, but in a different way) and did not pick up on the obvious cues, 3) Perhaps Tiffany is not the type of female Piro finds interesting, 4) Perhaps Piro is of a different orientation like many suggest (although I think this is unlikely, for I think introducing Piro as a non-heterosexual character with this close proximity to having Prudence be self-identified as lesbian seems rushed and unlikely), and 5) Perhaps Piro really is destitute like others have suggested (although I hope this is not true either, as I think it would be more interesting/fun for him to just choose this sort of lifestyle rather than be forced into it).
When attracting a man A high school style fixWill only boreSo choose silent flixOr something else the man canQuietly adore.
Clueless couple in the roomNot noticing who really clicksIgnoring what will really workResorting to some childish tricksChoosing empty ploys to groomTiffy, please, don’t be a jerk.
Why jump to the idea Piro is gay? Maybe he just sees Tiff for what she is and is not interested the BS game. Oh, he’s seems to have plenty of his own issues. But I think he can spot others with theirs and decides he has enough of his own.
Brd had a reply to a comment which seems designed to snag:@Caldonia“I still have no idea how having Gunther watch this helps him at all. It makes as little sense as Tiff’s hose that don’t exist in real life.”…News Flash: Yeah, they do exist. We covered this and put up real life/recent pictures yesterday..There are none so blind as those who will not see…
I am beginning to wonder if Cal does NOT read posts replying, merely counts them. If so, what a very sad way for someone to live life. Obnoxious if true, of course, but ultimately pitiable.
My favorite line in relation to your final note in that post is: “Keeping eyes closed is worse than being blind.” It is from BB King’s “There Is Always One More Time”. Margaret Avery sang my favorite version.
-A lot of you assume so much about Piro to the point where you actually believe you have him all figured out! Face it, we know next to nothing about him.
Agree. Many of us (I’m one) have speculated that he is homeless, possibly a vet with PTSD because of some of his behaviors. Hope we get to find out more about this intriguing character.
-It’s more likely that he is anti-social, just likes to keep to himself
Or, like one poster suggested earlier, if someone’s biggest issue is where (and whether) he can find a place to spend the night safely, maybe a girlfriend is just not the top thought in his mind…
Just glad Bernice didn’t show up. Didn’t make emotional sense to me. (She is licking her self-inflicted wounds.) Today moves the action along. I am back to thinking of each character having a super power and their own lethal kind of kryptonite. Is this Tiffany’s moment for the latter? I am hoping Tiff has a crisis and really is comforted by Gunther – friend to friend. Gunther is perfect here because he won’t take advantage of her, much to the disappointment of some of the “little boys” out there. See Argy.bargy2’s reactions – same as me.
Yeah, it will be interesting to see what Piro’s backstory is, and how he got to this point where he has to shuffle from place to place to find a place to sleep. There could be some skeletons in that closet, or ghosts from his past that haunt him. Or, maybe he’s just a "live for today, don’t worry about tomorrow’ (Heyyy-hey) kind of guy. Should be interesting.
You do recall that Tiffany is only interested in Gunther as a friend, right? No with benefits not as a love, right? So if Gunther did do what you demand she would throw him out.Don’t be too sure about that. Have you forgotten their “moment” together? Something more than just friendship happened there, however briefly and awkwardly. I think that this could easily blossom into something more than just friends.
Night-Gaunt….. interesting… you are undoubtedly correct. I had not been thinking of the gender of the word “seamstress.” I will look up “seamster” and see about its use.
Some ugly comments in yesterday and today. Insulting term for homosexuals, and sexist comments like referring to a non-virgin as having been “ruined”. I felt a few times like some have been trying to dump us all back into the hatreds of the fifties. Thank goodness none of those posters had Hyponotoad powers, but instead repulsed. There is already too much Hypnotoad-like promulgation of hatred in today’s world.
Someone i know in Belgium who missed being in the wrong location by mere minutes yesterday (though they all hoped the boomed station woukd not fall in or other bombs go off while passing through to the next station on an intact track) this morning told me something terribly sad. Syrian children have been diving under tables in classrooms when frightening noises happen, afraid not only of ethnic bigots but also that ISIS which destroyed their families and homes in Syria are now after them in Belgium.
There is too much hatred in the world, and too many Hypnotoads trying to increase that. Please, avoid it here.
Lassie1 said, about 2 hours ago@DavidHuieGreen“Yes, so you’re a worthless old hag at 18 or 19, is that what you’re saying? Are you a pedophile?”.Obviously not since I still think even 19 tear olds are still interesting (as well as 65 year olds) but my beloved Tiffany just used her super power and it failed her, pore thang. Now she’s apt to be filled with self-doubt such as I suggested..Now, let us delve into your interpretation. Have you convinced yourself that any male not interested in you must necessarily be a pedophile and disinterested in old hags?
Forgetting Piro, I want to see Tiffany and Gunther really go at it. Tiff’s ego needs reassurance and Gunther is so steamed up that he might explode. Let them become friends…..with benefits.
I’m thinking that maybe Piro has other priorities and that perhaps HE is one of those guys who prefers to make the first move and resents “pushy” women. (Not that I ever call women pushy)
For Tiff the hall got so much colderBut Gunther has a welcome shoulderPerhaps a kiss if even bolder
Crying makes the makeup runFalse appearances come undoneThere may be chance to have Gun won
Better yet this may be timeFor Tiff to finally unwindAnd be herself with someone kind, Carry that forward in her mindMarch forth in life to her own rhymeLeave ways of hiding far behind.
In real life a woman life Tiffany would have college men all around her. She wouldn’t have to waste her time trying to attract men like Piro or Gunther. Those 2 would be lost in the crowd.
@Night-Gaunt49@DavidHuieGreen“Age is in maturity? Which is between 25 to 27 as the last of the bones fuse. She is hardly a has-been.”.Well YOU know that and I know that (even though I put it a little bit over 30) but does Tiffany know that? .Rejected by Quill. Ignored by Piro….Things like thatNot good for her ego.Out of care for TiffGunther might step inProfess his lustTime without end..Good old Gunther
I don’t necessarily see Piro as LGBT. He could be, simply, just “not interested.” If some hottie just plopped herself down next to me and said “Hi There,” do you think I would jump on her… (err… uh, “it”)…? ;-) Nope. Because that just doesn’t happen to me anymore on a regular basis (never really did…)… and I’d be very suspicious of why it’s happening right now, all of a sudden. Perhaps, Piro senses a JDFR in Tiff. Smart man….
On a different note, I just noticed Piro’s facial features. Could he also be related to Mr. Gray in some fashion? That would be totally interesting. Maybe he’s Les’ older brother and is trying to get away from him.
Gunth…. Sorry this didn’t help you. Just chill out man and let things happen organically. Whether it’s Tiff, Bern, Lu, or someone totally different. Don’t force it… it will go bad.
Have faith in yourself, Gunth. You’ll figure it out.
Okay, i can not find the post, but if memory serves me, Dave said that Piro might not be interested in someone Tiff’s age. Having said that same thing, i can tell folks that is correct in terms of how some young men and women respond. They just do not want people who act like teens. There are big differences in maturity among many people within just a few years in that general age cohort. Why some people would assume a general statement like that must mean only going younger might well say more about preconceptions they should explore than about what was written, should my recollection and interpretation be correct.
I think it’s a cop-out to just assume that Piro is gay. Why can’t a person turn down someone who’s seemingly hot for them, without being called gay? Not everyone is interested in jumping in the sack with just anyone. Maybe Piro prefers women like Dez or Crystal. Maybe Tiff reminds him of a girl back in high school who burned him and so he’s leery of having anything romantic or sexual with her. I know of guys who find females that come on strong to be a put off, and prefer to do the pursuing themselves. Maybe he doesn’t like a girl who comes off as high maintenance. Maybe as someone said, he has Asperger’s. Maybe he’s still nursing a broken heart and has no desire to deal with relationships at the moment. There are so many more interesting possibilities, that to just go, “Yup. Gay” is incredibly boring and unimaginative if you ask me.
Brd Crash might be on to something, It seems nobody in this strip has sex, the last person to have a drink was Gunther in Peru, and the brownies aren’t loaded. Coffee is how they party?
At least Tiffany had the sense to give Piro something practical and useable on the run (which he is mostly)…. and we now know that nothing has happened between those two. …….and that ‘nothing’ is going on between Piro and any girl thus far.
Piro’s expression in panel two seems to indicate he is quite aware of what Tiffany is trying to do. If I had to guess, I would say that he looks somewhat amused (akin to his look when he asked Bernice “when” in response to her soliloquy on how she was a good listener). Interestingly, his expression in panel three looks almost disappointed, perhaps even sad, which is quite a change from the prior panel. Maybe he expected something different from Tiffany based on their past interactions (which seem unlikely to have included exposure to coquettish Tiffany). Or perhaps her last ditch effort reminds him of something or someone else.
Either way, I think his response, or lack there of, to Tiffany’s wiles may be much more complex than the easy answer of him being gay. As many have pointed out above, there are many reasons beyond homosexuality that might lead to Piro not being caught up in Tiffany’s obvious (perhaps too obvious) web.
Poor Tiff.The sad truth is that she’s as inept at attracting guys as Gunther is at attracting girls – maybe even more so, judging from their successes. She struck out with Quill and has been apparently dateless for years and years. She’s spending her college years hanging out with a dorky study-buddy..Gunther somehow got Rosa as a girlfriend, and actually dumped her. Tiff has never had the chance to dump anyone (maybe back in the Bush Administration).
SukieCrandall said, about 4 hours agoSome ugly comments in yesterday and today. Insulting term for homosexuals, and sexist comments like referring to a non-virgin as having been “ruined”. I felt a few times like some have been trying to dump us all back into the hatreds of the fifties. Thank goodness none of those posters had Hyponotoad powers, but instead repulsed. There is already too much Hypnotoad-like promulgation of hatred in today’s world.
Someone i know in Belgium who missed being in the wrong location by mere minutes yesterday (though they all hoped the boomed station woukd not fall in or other bombs go off while passing through to the next station on an intact track) this morning told me something terribly sad. Syrian children have been diving under tables in classrooms when frightening noises happen, afraid not only of ethnic bigots but also that ISIS which destroyed their families and homes in Syria are now after them in Belgium.
There is too much hatred in the world, and too many Hypnotoads trying to increase that. Please, avoid it here.^^^^^^^^^^^^^Thank You! Well said!
That fact that Piro is not charmed by Tiffany’s popping buttons doesn’t require any special explanation (gay, asexual, mentally ill, castration). The fact that he hangs out at the dorm looking for a place to stay, and just with the ladies, DOES, however. Also, I think what got Bernice’s young juices flowing wasn’t the stay over so much as the watching the silent movie together. She realized that he had some depth. This depth comes out when he ignores Tiffany’ T & A cheerleader act. Now if she suggested an old time marathon movie date, well, who knows?
Interesting juxtaposition today with Tiff trying a high school type approach in Luann, and her question in relation to appearing college age in Luann Again: http://www.gocomics.com/comic/explore/1389847/19
My memory was faulty – Piro looked somewhat amused when he asked Bernice, “30 minutes bends the rule, 31 breaks it?” He looked more sad (or tired) when he asked her “When?” in response to her comments on being a good listener.
“Not being a coffee drinker, I am not sure. But, as a guess, If one were to pour steaming hot coffee on their private parts, they’d definitely be hot.”-—Nah. Just tried it. Doesn’t get the desired result.
p.s. Ow!
I have a theory about the coffee thing. None of these characters are old enough to drink legally. So rather than plying each other with booze like the grown-ups, they use coffee.
I have another theory. It’s about brontosauruses. You probably don’t want to hear that one.
Well, I was going to post that new parody strip I did. But seeing as how the one I posted a couple of days ago was unceremoniously deleted, I don’t see much point.
What’s up with Piro? He’s manipulative, moody, distant and just bad news. I doubt he’s gay. I think he’s just a user. Tiffany just needs to set her sights on Gunther and Gunther just needs to notice Tiffany and Bernice just needs to get a life.
Well, that didn’t work on Piro, despite a terrific effort, Tiffany.But what about Gunther? I think he may have had some reaction. And that’s the better direction anyway….
Oh Boy Fanservice! Nice work! Now put her in a black string bikini! When you have time of course and if you want to. Really that is nice work.^^TY, glad you like it, but, I just copied the outfit Greg has Tiffany wearing in the strip :)
KM has an illustration gig right now which is very time consuming. That happens.
The Dreadful Fate of Jonathan York is the book which was nominated for the award last year. I just looked and Amazon says that it is almost out but that more will be on the way.
Dog will like this: during a newspaper interview about that book Kory and the reporter saw a little dog in danger in the road and rushed out to save it from traffic. They succeeded. I do not know if the owner was found by the authorities, but hope so.
I am not someone who reads a lot of comic strips but some just stand out. LSoS did, and obviously Luann certainly does!
Flash Gordon over 8 years ago
OOpsie, a button broke? Riiiight.
I think he might be asexual,
or at least he’s not interested in her.
Gunther should put his glasses back on.
People look better in glasses.
SF1972 over 8 years ago
Well, that worked.
Wait, I was thinking about something else. This did not work. This was the opposite of working.
Templo S.U.D. over 8 years ago
okay… THAT’S her plan: burst a blouse button?
Wilde Bill over 8 years ago
Ooh! Shot down in flames. Anything else you want to teach Gunther?
Argythree over 8 years ago
-I can remember when Gunther was tutoring Tiffany and suddenly decided that he Bernice was the woman he needed. Despite all Tiffany’s efforts to keep him there (telling him she could make coffee, too, and suddenly finding another math problem she needed help with), Gunther didn’t even hear her, and left on his ‘mission’ to convince Bernice they belonged together.
And now Tiffany tries with the coffee and a missing button, and gets no reaction from Piro. Or at least not the reaction she expected.
Will Tiffany learn anything from this? (Will Gunther?)
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 8 years ago
by the way, no evidence of a skort yesterdaysad that no matter how hot, Tiffany just flamed out.Age is sneaking up on her.Pretty soon she won’t be able to raise the dead with a twitch.
JNOLO over 8 years ago
KInda hoping Tiff goes back in, realized just how hot Gunther got looking at her. Perhaps they both hit the reset button and try heating themselves back up.
jemgirl81 over 8 years ago
Tiffany is frickin’ hilarious!
keema70 over 8 years ago
I’m starting to think that Piro is on downers.
Airman over 8 years ago
That hissing sound is either steam coming out of Gunther’s ears, or Tiffany’s ego deflating.
luann1212 over 8 years ago
Extending the drama here again. Not sure if, or how, Piro might react to Tiffany’s last little gambit with the button. Drama!! My bet is that he keeps on walking. No effect. Tiffany will be crushed, and Gunther will be the one who comforts her. Or…Bernice opens her door, and Piro goes to her in some way. Again Tiffany would be crushed, and Gunther will have very conflicted emotions. Those are two scenarios, I am sure there are many other, but I think it will be a version of either of those.
gromit82 over 8 years ago
The fact that Gunther is in the room with Tiffany would have to give Piro a very mixed signal.Tiffany may be acting like she wants Piro to come in for a romantic interlude, but the fact that she already has another guy in the room would likely indicate to Piro that no such experience is going to take place between himself and Tiff, even if that was what he wanted.
kenhense over 8 years ago
Nice job Tiff! However we haven’t seen anything that Piro is interested in. We are entitled to eventually find out what’s with this guy. In the meantime, not to worry about Berneice and Piro – or Berneice and Gunther… Tiff is suddenly showing us that she IS an actress. Gunther – Hug her!
ai_vin over 8 years ago
I see it all now: Tiff is going to have her moment of self-doubt, Gunther will comfort her, they will be drawn closer to each other, and then. . . Greg chickens out and we’re force to watch some PG rated cop out.
drewpamon over 8 years ago
Piro is either too worried about being homeless or our first male gay character.
atheisticallyyours88 over 8 years ago
Let me guess-this “Piro” is of the same “sexual orientation” as the “lesbian thespian”-hence the lack of interest in Tiffany.
ct0760 over 8 years ago
Knew it, he’s not into girls
sactiger over 8 years ago
Ol’ Piro, he don’ like de goils, y’know?
Ruth Brown over 8 years ago
Now, given that Piro has been in her place before it would seem that some communication went on. I bet when they were alone, Tiffany just was natural—as with Gunther.If you are going to act, playing hard to get is better. Piro’s interested and experiences are much different than our little group.What we know: he eats popcorn, likes silent movies, needs a place to sleep. Doesn’t mean he’s gay, a vet with residual problems (wait, he would have a GI Bill and less money problems, no?). Tiffany needs to give up the tease. It isn’t working and she has a much better time being open and honest with Gunther.
Enter.Name.Here over 8 years ago
Piro has something bothering him. Looks like it might be something serious. He seems a little dead inside.
Busrayne over 8 years ago
Wow – not only did this idea not get off the ground, it exploded in the hanger.
Make Mine Marvel over 8 years ago
I’m not persuaded that Piro could see Gunther, if you study the geometry of the first panel. He may not have realized that Gunther was there, but he still doesn’t much want to pursue anything with an obviously “interested” Tiffany.
Piro strikes me as a character with unexplored depths, I don;t want to think that Team Evans will just “reveal” that he’s gay and let that be the resolution. They’ve invested plenty of time in suggesting that there’s more going on behind that star…
But then, this strip is also known for huge, drawn-out buildups leading to a very predictable and ho-hum resolution. I’d like to think Karen is maturing as a writer as she and Greg bring their characters into a new stage of their lives.
We’ll see.
Make Mine Marvel over 8 years ago
I also can’t help remembering that Gunther is a costumer. Tiffany will certainly have a sewing kit in her suite. So Gunther will have a perfectly reasonable excuse for telling Tiffany to take her top off so he can fix that dratted button…
King_Shark over 8 years ago
And meanwhile Gunther is hopping from one side of the room to the other. Jumping to conclusions, hopefully.
imagenesis over 8 years ago
Oooh Tiff,,, you’re just too cute no matter what your intentions are. You are just okay!
38lowell over 8 years ago
Hope that broke button doesn’t go to waste.Gunth is great at fixing clothes!!!
Mooshki Premium Member over 8 years ago
Just because those knee warmers exist doesn’t mean it isn’t completely preposterous that she’d make them part of her “sexy” outfit.
Pointspread over 8 years ago
Well Tiff took a shot. I guess you could call it a mug shot.
JohnFarson19 over 8 years ago
“Shot Down in flames,Shot down in flames.Ain’t it a shameto be shot down in flames.”-AC/DC
Crash7 over 8 years ago
Tiffany is hilarious today. That guy must be some kind of zombie or something. Tiff, Gunther sews. I’m sure he could fix that button for you. Probably wouldn’t even have to take it off. Nah, on second thought, his hands would be shaking too much.
Chuck374 over 8 years ago
Piro is definitely gay – or dead.
Barry1941 over 8 years ago
Is she wearing leg warmers? I thought they went out of fashion decades ago.
Mikeyj over 8 years ago
My guess is that Piro is already married, or that he prefers older women.
Mikeyj over 8 years ago
Tiff, you’re going to get a BAD reputation, on campus, acting like that….
locake over 8 years ago
This never worked on Piro before. Why would it work now?
locake over 8 years ago
This won’t work on Gunther either. It will just make him even more uncomfortable.
Mikeyj over 8 years ago
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1soni Premium Member over 8 years ago
I think she is gonna be pissed and try to focus on getting his attention now. She won’t like being snubbed.
rrsltx over 8 years ago
Starting to think Piro is Aspie.
KTB over 8 years ago
Piro is gay. No doubt about it.
Willywise52 Premium Member over 8 years ago
Right KTB,or a narc.
drewpamon over 8 years ago
One thing we’ve learned about Piro is he’s rude. You don’t show up, take a gift, and then leave immediately without any conversation. I’m wondering if he’s going to have autism.
1soni Premium Member over 8 years ago
Doesn’t she still have one of his scarfs?
bravechow over 8 years ago
They’re going to learn Piro isn’t enrolled. He’s just a mysterious bum hanging around, mooching off spoiled and gullible students.
Mordock999 Premium Member over 8 years ago
Okay, were You Watching CLOSELY, Gunther? Good.NOW You KNOW Why Tiffany Doesn’t have any ‘Boyfriends.’
reedkomicks Premium Member over 8 years ago
Will Bernice show up next to yell accusations? Let’s hope so.
atomicdog over 8 years ago
My guess: Tiffany fully expected her ploy with Piro to fail, and this whole performance was part of her game to snag GUNTHER.
gmejia over 8 years ago
I say Piro is a father… all his money goes to child support… that is why he has to crash on couches… and has no interest in other women.
Endunamoo over 8 years ago
Color Piro Un-Interested… Insert reason _______________
Outsideplaying over 8 years ago
Piro must be a med school student….no time for anything else. And no money.
stlmaddog5 over 8 years ago
Maybe Piro is gay?
barister over 8 years ago
a total tragic fail.
james28602 over 8 years ago
so, comic relief aside, wasn’t the entire point of the exercise for her to Distract him while he goes after Bernie… I mean “watch how it’s done” is great and all, but I would definitely think something was up if a girl was trying to “turn up the heat” with me while she’s got a male friend in the room
ACTIVIST1234 over 8 years ago
A mug! What a great “extra” gift to keep wrapped up. 1) It’s an invitation to future coffee dates and 2) I’ve got about 20 in storage I’d be glad to get rid of!
31768 over 8 years ago
THAT’S YOUR CUE, GUNTHER! TIME TO STEP IN!PIRO’S NOT INTERESTED!
31768 over 8 years ago
PARIS IS NOT THE SAME CELEBUTARD ANYMORE GUNTH!SHE’S NOW WORTH A CHANCE! AND BERNICE CANT MATCH HER!
Crash7 over 8 years ago
A thought just occurred to me. What’s with all the talk of coffee in this arc? Is there some erotic significance to coffee of which I’m not aware?
Mikeyj over 8 years ago
With that type of “hairstyle,” that snowman looks like Calvin!^You think it’s easy to build a snowman with a spiky hair? :p
Mikeyj over 8 years ago
Wouldn’t that be Broke Button MountainS?
ScottyMC Premium Member over 8 years ago
I’ll take some of that hot coffee, with extra cream
æ² over 8 years ago
My bet is that Piro isn’t gay. He’s just not impressed. Or his current focus in life just doesn’t include that, for whatever reason. But I’m doubting that that reason could have anything to do with any orientation towards males. He just continues to be an enigma.Meanwhile — Hey Gunth! You’re REALLY good at sewing buttons back on, right? And that top would need to be removed first so that you could do that, right? (Hint, hint). Or is that too much to handle? Well, at least hug and kiss her, you fool! :)
edge2edge over 8 years ago
Piro is either on that drug which suppresses sexual urges or he is gay.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 8 years ago
8Interesting day today! I am actually happy that Tiffany’s prior “tease” strategies did not work with Piro. From my perspective, I think the lack of success of that strategy is a good one for Tiffany to experience to hopefully reinforce her new development towards her kinder, more thoughtful self. If her “tease” would have easily worked, it would have instead reinforced the prior Tiffany behaviors and actions. Someone before me in the comments suggested that Tiffany’s “button off” action may lead to seamstress Gunther working to fix the situation. This could be quite fun, and if done well, could actually lead both Tiff and Gunther one step closer to a blossoming romantic interest in each other that so many of us have been rooting for. There are many reasons I see for Piro not becoming engaged by Tiffany’s “tease”…. 1) Perhaps he has a girlfriend (perhaps at Moony or some other campus or community) and is actually a faithful guy and ignores the “tease”, 2) Perhaps he is a socially unaware fellow (like Gunther is, but in a different way) and did not pick up on the obvious cues, 3) Perhaps Tiffany is not the type of female Piro finds interesting, 4) Perhaps Piro is of a different orientation like many suggest (although I think this is unlikely, for I think introducing Piro as a non-heterosexual character with this close proximity to having Prudence be self-identified as lesbian seems rushed and unlikely), and 5) Perhaps Piro really is destitute like others have suggested (although I hope this is not true either, as I think it would be more interesting/fun for him to just choose this sort of lifestyle rather than be forced into it).
SukieCrandall Premium Member over 8 years ago
When attracting a man A high school style fixWill only boreSo choose silent flixOr something else the man canQuietly adore.
Clueless couple in the roomNot noticing who really clicksIgnoring what will really workResorting to some childish tricksChoosing empty ploys to groomTiffy, please, don’t be a jerk.
locake over 8 years ago
Now Piro will have to carry that mug with him everywhere he goes. Or leave it at someone’s place after he spends the night on their couch.
AmissaSada over 8 years ago
When you’re not sure where you’re sleeping that night, a girlfriend just isn’t on your radar of concerns.
kenvilkid over 8 years ago
Why jump to the idea Piro is gay? Maybe he just sees Tiff for what she is and is not interested the BS game. Oh, he’s seems to have plenty of his own issues. But I think he can spot others with theirs and decides he has enough of his own.
SukieCrandall Premium Member over 8 years ago
Brd had a reply to a comment which seems designed to snag:@Caldonia“I still have no idea how having Gunther watch this helps him at all. It makes as little sense as Tiff’s hose that don’t exist in real life.”…News Flash: Yeah, they do exist. We covered this and put up real life/recent pictures yesterday..There are none so blind as those who will not see…
I am beginning to wonder if Cal does NOT read posts replying, merely counts them. If so, what a very sad way for someone to live life. Obnoxious if true, of course, but ultimately pitiable.
My favorite line in relation to your final note in that post is: “Keeping eyes closed is worse than being blind.” It is from BB King’s “There Is Always One More Time”. Margaret Avery sang my favorite version.
Argy.Bargy2 over 8 years ago
-A lot of you assume so much about Piro to the point where you actually believe you have him all figured out! Face it, we know next to nothing about him.
Agree. Many of us (I’m one) have speculated that he is homeless, possibly a vet with PTSD because of some of his behaviors. Hope we get to find out more about this intriguing character.
Argy.Bargy2 over 8 years ago
-It’s more likely that he is anti-social, just likes to keep to himself
Or, like one poster suggested earlier, if someone’s biggest issue is where (and whether) he can find a place to spend the night safely, maybe a girlfriend is just not the top thought in his mind…
Luanaphile over 8 years ago
Just glad Bernice didn’t show up. Didn’t make emotional sense to me. (She is licking her self-inflicted wounds.) Today moves the action along. I am back to thinking of each character having a super power and their own lethal kind of kryptonite. Is this Tiffany’s moment for the latter? I am hoping Tiff has a crisis and really is comforted by Gunther – friend to friend. Gunther is perfect here because he won’t take advantage of her, much to the disappointment of some of the “little boys” out there. See Argy.bargy2’s reactions – same as me.
Asharah over 8 years ago
Piro could be gay. Or simply not interested in any involvement.
æ² over 8 years ago
Yeah, it will be interesting to see what Piro’s backstory is, and how he got to this point where he has to shuffle from place to place to find a place to sleep. There could be some skeletons in that closet, or ghosts from his past that haunt him. Or, maybe he’s just a "live for today, don’t worry about tomorrow’ (Heyyy-hey) kind of guy. Should be interesting.
æ² over 8 years ago
He wouldn’t like being called “Gunthy”.Not, not Gunthy - Gunthany! :) As in Bennifer, Kimye, Brangelina, etc.
æ² over 8 years ago
You do recall that Tiffany is only interested in Gunther as a friend, right? No with benefits not as a love, right? So if Gunther did do what you demand she would throw him out.Don’t be too sure about that. Have you forgotten their “moment” together? Something more than just friendship happened there, however briefly and awkwardly. I think that this could easily blossom into something more than just friends.
Schrodinger's Dog over 8 years ago
I think that would be “seamster” for a male. “Seamstress” is female.
I thought the male version was “tailor”?
ndblackirish97 over 8 years ago
yep he’s gay
Crash7 over 8 years ago
That was the original arrangement between them. But weeks ago when he first went off in pursuit of Bernice, it was apparent that she was hurt by that.
BeniHanna6 Premium Member over 8 years ago
Could he be a ISIS terrorist?
cheap_day_return over 8 years ago
Yeah, a mug. maybe you can get a refill at McDonalds when you’re dumpster-diving there tonight.
locake over 8 years ago
I think Piro is asexual, not attracted to males or females.
Redgal16 over 8 years ago
That was so sad, maybe Tiff should of shout out ‘’ARE YOU INTO MEN’’
would help clear the situation up
Pointspread over 8 years ago
He would have to be a member of the Seamsters Union.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member over 8 years ago
Night-Gaunt….. interesting… you are undoubtedly correct. I had not been thinking of the gender of the word “seamstress.” I will look up “seamster” and see about its use.
doverdan over 8 years ago
Not much style in her approach. I thought she would do better than this.
comicboyz over 8 years ago
Tiffany, ALL you have to do is sit down with BERNICE and tell her that she is missing the obvious!
doverdan over 8 years ago
The Aspie aspect is worthy of consideration.See:http://www.wikihow.com/Date-an-Aspie
SukieCrandall Premium Member over 8 years ago
Some ugly comments in yesterday and today. Insulting term for homosexuals, and sexist comments like referring to a non-virgin as having been “ruined”. I felt a few times like some have been trying to dump us all back into the hatreds of the fifties. Thank goodness none of those posters had Hyponotoad powers, but instead repulsed. There is already too much Hypnotoad-like promulgation of hatred in today’s world.
Someone i know in Belgium who missed being in the wrong location by mere minutes yesterday (though they all hoped the boomed station woukd not fall in or other bombs go off while passing through to the next station on an intact track) this morning told me something terribly sad. Syrian children have been diving under tables in classrooms when frightening noises happen, afraid not only of ethnic bigots but also that ISIS which destroyed their families and homes in Syria are now after them in Belgium.
There is too much hatred in the world, and too many Hypnotoads trying to increase that. Please, avoid it here.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 8 years ago
Lassie1 said, about 2 hours ago@DavidHuieGreen“Yes, so you’re a worthless old hag at 18 or 19, is that what you’re saying? Are you a pedophile?”.Obviously not since I still think even 19 tear olds are still interesting (as well as 65 year olds) but my beloved Tiffany just used her super power and it failed her, pore thang. Now she’s apt to be filled with self-doubt such as I suggested..Now, let us delve into your interpretation. Have you convinced yourself that any male not interested in you must necessarily be a pedophile and disinterested in old hags?
Airman over 8 years ago
Piro is an eunuch. Or, a least, semi-catatonic. Whatever, I don’t think that he would be a good date for a karaoke bar.
Airman over 8 years ago
Forgetting Piro, I want to see Tiffany and Gunther really go at it. Tiff’s ego needs reassurance and Gunther is so steamed up that he might explode. Let them become friends…..with benefits.
Mikeyj over 8 years ago
think that would be “seamster” for a male. “Seamstress” is female.^Try “tailor”
Mikeyj over 8 years ago
I’m thinking that maybe Piro has other priorities and that perhaps HE is one of those guys who prefers to make the first move and resents “pushy” women. (Not that I ever call women pushy)
StoicLion1973 over 8 years ago
Part of me thinks Tiffany knew Piro would not be attracted to her and is doing all of this for Gunther’s benefit.
SukieCrandall Premium Member over 8 years ago
For Tiff the hall got so much colderBut Gunther has a welcome shoulderPerhaps a kiss if even bolder
Crying makes the makeup runFalse appearances come undoneThere may be chance to have Gun won
Better yet this may be timeFor Tiff to finally unwindAnd be herself with someone kind, Carry that forward in her mindMarch forth in life to her own rhymeLeave ways of hiding far behind.
locake over 8 years ago
In real life a woman life Tiffany would have college men all around her. She wouldn’t have to waste her time trying to attract men like Piro or Gunther. Those 2 would be lost in the crowd.
Donaldo Premium Member over 8 years ago
it’s officeal. No one is Evans universe ever had an experience of sexual desire
Yuban333 over 8 years ago
Tiff, guys don’t like it when women throw themselves at them. Try playin’ hard-to-get. Maybe Piro likes a lady, not a wanna be slut.
catzooski over 8 years ago
Yep, no doubt about it, Pru and Piro would make a cute couple.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 8 years ago
@Night-Gaunt49@DavidHuieGreen“Age is in maturity? Which is between 25 to 27 as the last of the bones fuse. She is hardly a has-been.”.Well YOU know that and I know that (even though I put it a little bit over 30) but does Tiffany know that? .Rejected by Quill. Ignored by Piro….Things like thatNot good for her ego.Out of care for TiffGunther might step inProfess his lustTime without end..Good old Gunther
TORAD_07 over 8 years ago
I don’t necessarily see Piro as LGBT. He could be, simply, just “not interested.” If some hottie just plopped herself down next to me and said “Hi There,” do you think I would jump on her… (err… uh, “it”)…? ;-) Nope. Because that just doesn’t happen to me anymore on a regular basis (never really did…)… and I’d be very suspicious of why it’s happening right now, all of a sudden. Perhaps, Piro senses a JDFR in Tiff. Smart man….
On a different note, I just noticed Piro’s facial features. Could he also be related to Mr. Gray in some fashion? That would be totally interesting. Maybe he’s Les’ older brother and is trying to get away from him.
Gunth…. Sorry this didn’t help you. Just chill out man and let things happen organically. Whether it’s Tiff, Bern, Lu, or someone totally different. Don’t force it… it will go bad.
Have faith in yourself, Gunth. You’ll figure it out.
SukieCrandall Premium Member over 8 years ago
Okay, i can not find the post, but if memory serves me, Dave said that Piro might not be interested in someone Tiff’s age. Having said that same thing, i can tell folks that is correct in terms of how some young men and women respond. They just do not want people who act like teens. There are big differences in maturity among many people within just a few years in that general age cohort. Why some people would assume a general statement like that must mean only going younger might well say more about preconceptions they should explore than about what was written, should my recollection and interpretation be correct.
Namrepus over 8 years ago
I think it’s a cop-out to just assume that Piro is gay. Why can’t a person turn down someone who’s seemingly hot for them, without being called gay? Not everyone is interested in jumping in the sack with just anyone. Maybe Piro prefers women like Dez or Crystal. Maybe Tiff reminds him of a girl back in high school who burned him and so he’s leery of having anything romantic or sexual with her. I know of guys who find females that come on strong to be a put off, and prefer to do the pursuing themselves. Maybe he doesn’t like a girl who comes off as high maintenance. Maybe as someone said, he has Asperger’s. Maybe he’s still nursing a broken heart and has no desire to deal with relationships at the moment. There are so many more interesting possibilities, that to just go, “Yup. Gay” is incredibly boring and unimaginative if you ask me.
Pointspread over 8 years ago
Brd Crash might be on to something, It seems nobody in this strip has sex, the last person to have a drink was Gunther in Peru, and the brownies aren’t loaded. Coffee is how they party?
yangeldf over 8 years ago
well we all know what’s gonna happen now, it ends with them waking up next to each other smelling of shame
RSH over 8 years ago
At least Tiffany had the sense to give Piro something practical and useable on the run (which he is mostly)…. and we now know that nothing has happened between those two. …….and that ‘nothing’ is going on between Piro and any girl thus far.
Pointspread over 8 years ago
I must have missed that one! Lol!
JPN001 over 8 years ago
Piro’s expression in panel two seems to indicate he is quite aware of what Tiffany is trying to do. If I had to guess, I would say that he looks somewhat amused (akin to his look when he asked Bernice “when” in response to her soliloquy on how she was a good listener). Interestingly, his expression in panel three looks almost disappointed, perhaps even sad, which is quite a change from the prior panel. Maybe he expected something different from Tiffany based on their past interactions (which seem unlikely to have included exposure to coquettish Tiffany). Or perhaps her last ditch effort reminds him of something or someone else.
Either way, I think his response, or lack there of, to Tiffany’s wiles may be much more complex than the easy answer of him being gay. As many have pointed out above, there are many reasons beyond homosexuality that might lead to Piro not being caught up in Tiffany’s obvious (perhaps too obvious) web.
RolloTheGrouch over 8 years ago
Poor Tiff.The sad truth is that she’s as inept at attracting guys as Gunther is at attracting girls – maybe even more so, judging from their successes. She struck out with Quill and has been apparently dateless for years and years. She’s spending her college years hanging out with a dorky study-buddy..Gunther somehow got Rosa as a girlfriend, and actually dumped her. Tiff has never had the chance to dump anyone (maybe back in the Bush Administration).
rruiz831 over 8 years ago
yup, Piros’ gay.
Argy.Bargy2 over 8 years ago
-sartorialist
How about ‘designer’?
grnbrg over 8 years ago
:sigh: Do we need it spelled out any more?
Piro is gay.
Tiff is hot for Gunther.
Not sure where Bernice is going to end up.
Sheila Hardie over 8 years ago
Why do you think he’s gay? Maybe he’s just interested in Tiffany.
Sheila Hardie over 8 years ago
not* interested
finnygirl Premium Member over 8 years ago
LOL!
Schrodinger's Dog over 8 years ago
Or sartorialist.
I thought that was one of these guys:
Terminal Frost Premium Member over 8 years ago
SukieCrandall said, about 4 hours agoSome ugly comments in yesterday and today. Insulting term for homosexuals, and sexist comments like referring to a non-virgin as having been “ruined”. I felt a few times like some have been trying to dump us all back into the hatreds of the fifties. Thank goodness none of those posters had Hyponotoad powers, but instead repulsed. There is already too much Hypnotoad-like promulgation of hatred in today’s world.
Someone i know in Belgium who missed being in the wrong location by mere minutes yesterday (though they all hoped the boomed station woukd not fall in or other bombs go off while passing through to the next station on an intact track) this morning told me something terribly sad. Syrian children have been diving under tables in classrooms when frightening noises happen, afraid not only of ethnic bigots but also that ISIS which destroyed their families and homes in Syria are now after them in Belgium.
There is too much hatred in the world, and too many Hypnotoads trying to increase that. Please, avoid it here.^^^^^^^^^^^^^Thank You! Well said!
Luanaphile over 8 years ago
That fact that Piro is not charmed by Tiffany’s popping buttons doesn’t require any special explanation (gay, asexual, mentally ill, castration). The fact that he hangs out at the dorm looking for a place to stay, and just with the ladies, DOES, however. Also, I think what got Bernice’s young juices flowing wasn’t the stay over so much as the watching the silent movie together. She realized that he had some depth. This depth comes out when he ignores Tiffany’ T & A cheerleader act. Now if she suggested an old time marathon movie date, well, who knows?
SukieCrandall Premium Member over 8 years ago
Interesting juxtaposition today with Tiff trying a high school type approach in Luann, and her question in relation to appearing college age in Luann Again: http://www.gocomics.com/comic/explore/1389847/19
JPN001 over 8 years ago
My memory was faulty – Piro looked somewhat amused when he asked Bernice, “30 minutes bends the rule, 31 breaks it?” He looked more sad (or tired) when he asked her “When?” in response to her comments on being a good listener.
Argy.Bargy2 over 8 years ago
Where’s that poster who sets up the surveys? We could use a good survey to help us figure out Piro.
Question: Why did Piro decide not to respond to Tiffany’s ‘tease’?
Answers:
He needs to find a place to crash for the night before everyone leaves the dorm for dates.
He has another silent movie to watch and figures he’ll get no silence with Tiffany.
He is suffering from PTSD or depression and wants to be alone.
He saw Gunther and figured Gunther and Tiff were together.
He is gay
Other, explain:
Crash7 over 8 years ago
“Not being a coffee drinker, I am not sure. But, as a guess, If one were to pour steaming hot coffee on their private parts, they’d definitely be hot.”-—Nah. Just tried it. Doesn’t get the desired result.
p.s. Ow!
I have a theory about the coffee thing. None of these characters are old enough to drink legally. So rather than plying each other with booze like the grown-ups, they use coffee.
I have another theory. It’s about brontosauruses. You probably don’t want to hear that one.
Crash7 over 8 years ago
Well, I was going to post that new parody strip I did. But seeing as how the one I posted a couple of days ago was unceremoniously deleted, I don’t see much point.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 8 years ago
Interesting
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 8 years ago
Is there really such a thing as a horrible pun?
K M over 8 years ago
Yesterday she said she was a tease, not a sleaze. Today I’m not so sure. Well, yeah, I’m sure.
Sandra Gouvaia Premium Member over 8 years ago
Well, that didn’t work out, now what.
ChrisV over 8 years ago
Fogret gay or asexual, Piro’s gotta be DEAD to ignore Tiff when she’s looking and acting all teasey like this!
Dragoncat over 8 years ago
And the Dragoncat Award goes to……“Broke-Button Mountain”. Nice one…
Dragoncat over 8 years ago
And the Dragoncat Award for Best Picture Show goes to……Brdshtt! Love it!
ironman01 over 8 years ago
What’s up with Piro? He’s manipulative, moody, distant and just bad news. I doubt he’s gay. I think he’s just a user. Tiffany just needs to set her sights on Gunther and Gunther just needs to notice Tiffany and Bernice just needs to get a life.
Sisyphos over 8 years ago
Well, that didn’t work on Piro, despite a terrific effort, Tiffany.But what about Gunther? I think he may have had some reaction. And that’s the better direction anyway….
DSTERepairman over 8 years ago
Maybe Gunther would have had a better chance at swooning him. He doesn’t seem to be interested in Bernice either.
Mikeyj over 8 years ago
@Mikeyj
Oh Boy Fanservice! Nice work! Now put her in a black string bikini! When you have time of course and if you want to. Really that is nice work.^^TY, glad you like it, but, I just copied the outfit Greg has Tiffany wearing in the strip :)
Schrodinger's Dog over 8 years ago
stop needling us !
cruiserd over 8 years ago
Sometimes I don’t go through all the comments, but has anyone thought that maybe Piro is actually an undercover cop.
dliley over 8 years ago
Wow! What’s with Piro??
Schrodinger's Dog over 8 years ago
Don’t ever tell him that he’s “half a man”…
or that he’s got my goat?!
keithk501 over 8 years ago
Has anyone entertained the idea the Piro may be gay?
doverdan over 8 years ago
More about Gunther’s basi nature at:http://www.andrewsmcmeel.com/books/detail?sku=9781449437664Click on Google Preview over at the left.
doverdan over 8 years ago
. . .BASI*C* . . . not basi, Sorry
doverdan over 8 years ago
LDover said, less than a minute agoSorry . . . . . .basic . . . not basi, Sorry
SukieCrandall Premium Member over 8 years ago
Yes, i remember you there!
KM has an illustration gig right now which is very time consuming. That happens.
The Dreadful Fate of Jonathan York is the book which was nominated for the award last year. I just looked and Amazon says that it is almost out but that more will be on the way.
Dog will like this: during a newspaper interview about that book Kory and the reporter saw a little dog in danger in the road and rushed out to save it from traffic. They succeeded. I do not know if the owner was found by the authorities, but hope so.
I am not someone who reads a lot of comic strips but some just stand out. LSoS did, and obviously Luann certainly does!
forester6291 Premium Member over 8 years ago
there is degrees between pablam and porn
SukieCrandall Premium Member over 8 years ago
That is a satyr not to be confused with a satirist.
I think S’s D was being tongue-in-cheek.-
As was NG!
Contessa Carrington over 8 years ago
She gives women a bad name. Women always look better wearing dignity instead of exposing their ignorance.
Airman over 8 years ago
Rosa went out “not with a bang but a whimper.” I hope Tiffany and Gunther reverse that little disappointment.
Sojourner over 8 years ago
Maybe Piro’s simply not interested in females.
Jastcaird over 8 years ago
Gunther, the sewing and tailoring expert can at least mend the popped button, and it might lead somewhere.
Argythree over 8 years ago
SPOILER ALERT
After a very fast recovery from ‘tears’, Tiffany confirms many of our fears.
(Including, maybe, a shaken but not stirred Gunther?)
schmid13 over 8 years ago
On the puns – zip it!