Before making a major change, many smart people seem advice from experienced elders.
For example, before choosing a career many young adults talk to wizened experts in the field. Before getting married, many young couples seek premarital counseling to guide them through financial, social, legal changes. Does anyone offer pre-pregnancy counseling? These two sure need it.
Expressing the opinion that a storyline is unpleasant is called ‘expressing an opinion’. It’s not called ‘whining’. I expect those of you who enjoyed sinking your teeth into those of us who didn’t care for this arc will, of course, never, ever be guilty of ‘whining’ yourselves and will adore every arc henceforth. The one benefit of this vacation was that the Count seemed to have vanished…
Art was good, but storyline was beyond stupid. Tough audience, but not evil like Thanos. We are merely harsh, like Draco and subscribe to a Draconian type law.
I think this was a test to see if we remain loyal to the comic after this… I got nothing against the guest artist, it just did not work on these characters in my opinion!
I see many negative comments about this arc that I don’t think are warranted. Dream sequences are a legitimate plot device. This is ironic showing intentionally unrealistic family dynamics while they consider starting a family. Could you write and draw fresh material every day?
That’s a pretty hefty price there though. Kinda reminds me of that 70s Game Show- "The Price Is Right is an American television game show where contestants compete by guessing the prices of merchandise to win cash and prizes. A 1972 revival by Mark Goodson and Bill Todman of their 1956–1965 show of the same name, the new version added many distinctive gameplay elements. Contestants are selected from the studio audience: the announcer calls their name, invoking them to “Come on down!”, the show’s famous catchphrase."
1) The artist is skillful and is very good at drawing. However, the style of this artist is so far removed from the “Luann” style (both early or current) that it has been disconcerting. I much prefer Greg’s clean lines for “Luann”.
2) The story line over that last two weeks (apparently written by G & K) FEELS TO ME to be meant to be a slap to the face to commenters who complain about and are polarized about the Shannon/Toni/Brad arcs.
3) While many commenters CAN be over the top…. in my read of these last two weeks it seems G & K wrote these absolutely absurdist stories as a type of “Up yours!” statement to those extreme commenters.
4) So…. since I rarely comment here anymore… I will simply state that the for me the last two weeks of comics was not enjoyable, and I look forward to a return to normal “Luann” next week.
In the end both Brad and Toni dream to have children to love and be loved by. The quantity changes, but not the desire. These two weeks have been different and fun, my only regret is that we didn’t get to see Luann drawn by Jay Fosgitt. But who knows, maybe tomorrow there could be the surprise of a Sunday page drawn by him? Also, now I REALLY want to see Brad and Toni become parents!
getting exhausted by this 50s throwback senario… Can we return to the story line involving a very together professional couple who have chosen to care for their orphaned niece.
My mom had 9 siblings. My dad had 4. I have 4 brothers. My wife and I have 2 kids. When I was asked how many kids I wanted, I replied whatever my wife wants. She wanted 2, that’s what we had, and it was something we talked about before getting married.
Glad to see this in color! In B&W (in the local online newspaper) I couldn’t figure out what was up with the baby’s mouth. I thought for sure (s)he had a little goatee and mustache! In color, I can see it’s a pacifier.
A couple of things I think the MAJORITY of commenters here will agree upon: 1) The guest artist is talented in and of himself. 2) The storyline isn’t “bad” – maybe even an interesting diversion! – in and of itself. But 3) The guest artwork combined with the out-of-the-ordinary storyline was….well….a BAD combination. Combined, it was so far removed from the Luann we all know and love, it was just too much. WAY too much. And that’s why those of us who can’t wait for it to be over with and GO AWAY NEVER TO RETURN….feel that way.
So in this fantasy world did Toni quit her job to have and raise all those kids or did Brad become a house husband as it was his choice to have a large family?
I don’t know what the point of brother Jessie is, since Shannon already seems to live with Brad and Toni 365 days a year. Luann is one of my favorite comics but I can’t wait for this arc to end…I don’t know why TJ continues to live there with a whiny little brat intent on destruction, with no discipline, no boundaries…I’d like to see more TJ centric stories, come to think of it. but enough with shannon, regardless of the artist
When Prince William & Princess Kate had a third child there was some UK grumbling in that the average family in Great Britain could not afford a third child.
So I guess the point here is that Toni and Brad both want well-raised children, and both think that that’ll just happen naturally by the kid being in their presence, with no work required on their part. Have either of them ever stopped to think that maybe part of the reason for Shannon’s awfulness is their failure to impose any kind of boundaries on her? Reminds me of something I saw online recently where some (I hope to god fictional) parent was convinced that their kid would learn to read on their own just like how they learned to walk without help. They thought that all they had to do was leave books lying around and the kid would figure it out. Is this how Brad and Toni think discipline works?
The last two weeks have been an interesting diversion and brought some insight into Brad and Toni, even if not canon. I hope the Evans’ enjoyed their summer vacation.
I am an Independent who leans right fiscally but left of center socially. I am 100% pro choice. However, I do feel we should be more focused on preventing pregnancy than ending it. If we developed good choices for birth control that were more effective we would have fewer abortions. No child should have to come into the world unwanted.
Somewhere between Toni’s dream and Brad’s, is how Shannon would be if they raised Shannon full-time. She might not have become a Doggie Kamealoha clone, bbut neither would she be a lovable goofball clone of Brad either. She’d be unique.
It’s pretty sad when someone can take a totally innocuous comic, and turn it into their political soap box. People that do this over every single comic must not have much for lives.
Okay since every one is being rabid inhere, I’ll throw one more middle-road comment in here…you are aware they are lumping completely separate procedures like the rape & incest “care” procedures in with on-demand abortive care just to scare you into thinking this is a dark path to breeding camps right? Those, in almost every state I’m aware of is NOT on the table at al. 2nd, this is not an anti-choice crusade, this is taking what would be controlled by an un-elected federal bureaucrat functionary and returns it into the hand of the states where you have way more control of what happens. You want free-for-all walk in walk-out with a pile of ash? Get involved in your state elections. Don’t want people just being able to do it “willy nilly” ( not my choice of term, hence quotes), get involved. Most people have decided getting involved in issues is too messy and left it to activist groups and the Federal government, so when that power structure (and greed/corruption pipeline) is threatened you’re going to get some really bizarro unrealistic things thrown at you. End of day, both sides are throwing to much fear around and almost all of you are captured by it.
lvlax 6 months ago
Awww… sweet ending. Thanks to Jay for his guest artwork.
That said, am looking forward to a new G+K arc on Monday… hopefully something fun.
Fingers crossed there will be no more whiners . ;)
Mordock999 Premium Member 6 months ago
Yo.
Jay?
Jay Fosgitt?
Don’t let some of these “Ya-Hoo’s” around here get ’ya down! :-)
Willow Mt Lyon 6 months ago
Jay Fosgitt, thank you for filling in. You did great!
Hello Everyone 6 months ago
Gaaaahhh! Make it stop!!!
Joe1962 6 months ago
Great work Jay Fosgitt, thank you for filling in. You did some great work!
Joe1962 6 months ago
In reality I just don’t see Toni being a mom too six kids.
Rhetorical_Question 6 months ago
Not hilarious?
ACTIVIST1234 6 months ago
Before making a major change, many smart people seem advice from experienced elders.
For example, before choosing a career many young adults talk to wizened experts in the field. Before getting married, many young couples seek premarital counseling to guide them through financial, social, legal changes. Does anyone offer pre-pregnancy counseling? These two sure need it.
JCB 6 months ago
I think this dead horse has been beaten enough.
pokeystick 6 months ago
Looks like a baby factory to me.
UH oh.. ducks
Argythree 6 months ago
Expressing the opinion that a storyline is unpleasant is called ‘expressing an opinion’. It’s not called ‘whining’. I expect those of you who enjoyed sinking your teeth into those of us who didn’t care for this arc will, of course, never, ever be guilty of ‘whining’ yourselves and will adore every arc henceforth. The one benefit of this vacation was that the Count seemed to have vanished…
Wilkins068 6 months ago
‘Uh, Toni the kids are all in bed, you dont think it’ll give th twins a headache if we bump around a bit?’
‘Oh Brad, you do go on..’ as she locks him out of their bedroom
DIF20 6 months ago
enough already…..this phantasy would never happen….lets get back to the real world of your comics…thank you.
sbenton7684 6 months ago
Wow.. another bun in the oven…
SeaSnork 6 months ago
Hoping this is the end of this mess.
SJhapamama 6 months ago
Next up: The Month of Shannon, in which Brad and Toni ought to have plenty to discuss regarding future family plans…
nightflight 6 months ago
Art was good, but storyline was beyond stupid. Tough audience, but not evil like Thanos. We are merely harsh, like Draco and subscribe to a Draconian type law.
French Persons' Celebration of Peeved Harry Dinkle Premium Member 6 months ago
Suuuuuuuuuucks
imagenesis 6 months ago
I think this was a test to see if we remain loyal to the comic after this… I got nothing against the guest artist, it just did not work on these characters in my opinion!
OneTime59 6 months ago
Knew it all along Toni is going to emerge from a dream world.
Ellis97 6 months ago
Brad and Toni would have a beautiful family.
51 Champion 6 months ago
I see many negative comments about this arc that I don’t think are warranted. Dream sequences are a legitimate plot device. This is ironic showing intentionally unrealistic family dynamics while they consider starting a family. Could you write and draw fresh material every day?
atomicdog 6 months ago
Awww…
the dorf 6 months ago
Why is the infant in a bunkbed and not a crib?
sueb1863 6 months ago
Wouldn’t the baby be in a crib?
eced52 6 months ago
It isn’t.
computerprogrammer2028 6 months ago
That’s a pretty hefty price there though. Kinda reminds me of that 70s Game Show- "The Price Is Right is an American television game show where contestants compete by guessing the prices of merchandise to win cash and prizes. A 1972 revival by Mark Goodson and Bill Todman of their 1956–1965 show of the same name, the new version added many distinctive gameplay elements. Contestants are selected from the studio audience: the announcer calls their name, invoking them to “Come on down!”, the show’s famous catchphrase."
Out of the Past 6 months ago
You talk about aggravating.
GerryRoss 6 months ago
It’s not.
elbow macaroni 6 months ago
Unreadable
cybrgeezer 6 months ago
PLEASE let this be the end of this artistic nightmare arc.
terrybass1 6 months ago
whiner. one more day of this and i’m out of here.
DawnQuinn1 6 months ago
Ivlax…YOU are the whiner. lol
mxy 6 months ago
This strip has been getting lame over the years but this is worse than Rose is Rose.
Pipe Tobacco 6 months ago
Ok…. these last two weeks…….. uh…..
1) The artist is skillful and is very good at drawing. However, the style of this artist is so far removed from the “Luann” style (both early or current) that it has been disconcerting. I much prefer Greg’s clean lines for “Luann”.
2) The story line over that last two weeks (apparently written by G & K) FEELS TO ME to be meant to be a slap to the face to commenters who complain about and are polarized about the Shannon/Toni/Brad arcs.
3) While many commenters CAN be over the top…. in my read of these last two weeks it seems G & K wrote these absolutely absurdist stories as a type of “Up yours!” statement to those extreme commenters.
4) So…. since I rarely comment here anymore… I will simply state that the for me the last two weeks of comics was not enjoyable, and I look forward to a return to normal “Luann” next week.
RabbitLi 6 months ago
That’s it. Im done….
Aladar30 Premium Member 6 months ago
In the end both Brad and Toni dream to have children to love and be loved by. The quantity changes, but not the desire. These two weeks have been different and fun, my only regret is that we didn’t get to see Luann drawn by Jay Fosgitt. But who knows, maybe tomorrow there could be the surprise of a Sunday page drawn by him? Also, now I REALLY want to see Brad and Toni become parents!
tremaine53 6 months ago
In a certain way, this strip reminds me of a Hieronymus Bosch painting.
T Smith 6 months ago
Does that mean this hot mess ends?
gyllstrom Premium Member 6 months ago
The end? Please
hdude711 Premium Member 6 months ago
This storyline is so sickeningly sweet, I’m going to have to get my A1C levels checked. Here’s hoping that today’s toon is the last of this nonsense.
lemonbaskt 6 months ago
just as bad as crankshaft
bulldinky1 6 months ago
getting exhausted by this 50s throwback senario… Can we return to the story line involving a very together professional couple who have chosen to care for their orphaned niece.
rugeirn 6 months ago
It won’t take more than a couple more days of this before I drop this stip altogether.
Robert Miller Premium Member 6 months ago
My mom had 9 siblings. My dad had 4. I have 4 brothers. My wife and I have 2 kids. When I was asked how many kids I wanted, I replied whatever my wife wants. She wanted 2, that’s what we had, and it was something we talked about before getting married.
lisfnord 6 months ago
So all 5 kids share the same bedroom, and they’ve got 2 more on the way? Somebody better call CPS
Hoosier Poet 6 months ago
Glad to see this in color! In B&W (in the local online newspaper) I couldn’t figure out what was up with the baby’s mouth. I thought for sure (s)he had a little goatee and mustache! In color, I can see it’s a pacifier.
EMGULS79 6 months ago
A couple of things I think the MAJORITY of commenters here will agree upon: 1) The guest artist is talented in and of himself. 2) The storyline isn’t “bad” – maybe even an interesting diversion! – in and of itself. But 3) The guest artwork combined with the out-of-the-ordinary storyline was….well….a BAD combination. Combined, it was so far removed from the Luann we all know and love, it was just too much. WAY too much. And that’s why those of us who can’t wait for it to be over with and GO AWAY NEVER TO RETURN….feel that way.
kauri44 6 months ago
So in this fantasy world did Toni quit her job to have and raise all those kids or did Brad become a house husband as it was his choice to have a large family?
hoffquotes2 6 months ago
Why is an infant in a bunk bed
patrickschreiber1951 6 months ago
I don’t read this anymore.
bfwndtd316 6 months ago
I don’t know what the point of brother Jessie is, since Shannon already seems to live with Brad and Toni 365 days a year. Luann is one of my favorite comics but I can’t wait for this arc to end…I don’t know why TJ continues to live there with a whiny little brat intent on destruction, with no discipline, no boundaries…I’d like to see more TJ centric stories, come to think of it. but enough with shannon, regardless of the artist
alexius23 6 months ago
When Prince William & Princess Kate had a third child there was some UK grumbling in that the average family in Great Britain could not afford a third child.
BJShipley1 6 months ago
So I guess the point here is that Toni and Brad both want well-raised children, and both think that that’ll just happen naturally by the kid being in their presence, with no work required on their part. Have either of them ever stopped to think that maybe part of the reason for Shannon’s awfulness is their failure to impose any kind of boundaries on her? Reminds me of something I saw online recently where some (I hope to god fictional) parent was convinced that their kid would learn to read on their own just like how they learned to walk without help. They thought that all they had to do was leave books lying around and the kid would figure it out. Is this how Brad and Toni think discipline works?
fleskovitz Premium Member 6 months ago
More AI nonsense?!?
YorkGirl Premium Member 6 months ago
I’m wondering if the “real” Brad and Toni are on the other side of that door. Or, gasp! Shannon? the imp.
locake 6 months ago
Thank you for your work Jay. It was something different.
MuddyUSA Premium Member 6 months ago
Experiment…….failed!
Lord King Wazmo Premium Member 6 months ago
Geesh, terrible. I LOVE IT!
RichE 6 months ago
The last two weeks have been an interesting diversion and brought some insight into Brad and Toni, even if not canon. I hope the Evans’ enjoyed their summer vacation.
Autological 6 months ago
Yuck. BOOOOORing!
eladee AKA Wally 6 months ago
I am an Independent who leans right fiscally but left of center socially. I am 100% pro choice. However, I do feel we should be more focused on preventing pregnancy than ending it. If we developed good choices for birth control that were more effective we would have fewer abortions. No child should have to come into the world unwanted.
eladee AKA Wally 6 months ago
This is a sweet ending to Brad’s fantasy. Good luck with Toni EVER EVER buying into this! But a guy can always dream……
The Quiet One 6 months ago
That’s because it isn’t.
nightflight 6 months ago
When we come back, will Luann and Bernice mature a bit and stop looking like a couple of 12 year olds?
Praisnmom 6 months ago
I prefer the other artist. This one is too goofy in their drawings. Just saying!
eromlig 6 months ago
This has been fun. Now bring us back Greg and Karen!!
Mise Féin 6 months ago
Hoping this is the end of this junk
billdaviswords 6 months ago
Please. Please. Please. END. THIS. ARC.
Caldonia 6 months ago
Does the baby need a crib? Nope! It can just fall out.
Petemejia77 6 months ago
Thank God! Wake up already!
wfhite 6 months ago
Let’s hope this ends this arc or MacDonalds will sue.
cholomanaba 6 months ago
I sincerely hope (from the bottom of my hearth) that this is the last we see this abomination strip… otherwise I´m off for good.
WilliamVollmer 6 months ago
Somewhere between Toni’s dream and Brad’s, is how Shannon would be if they raised Shannon full-time. She might not have become a Doggie Kamealoha clone, bbut neither would she be a lovable goofball clone of Brad either. She’d be unique.
namelocdet 6 months ago
Does anyone know when “this” will end, and the old Luann is coming back?
CoreyTaylor1 6 months ago
PAGING THE DeGROOTS, BRAD AND TONI DeGROOT!Please return to REALITY!
egadi'mnotclad 6 months ago
Abate Already Please…
bwest.devore37 6 months ago
the artwork reminds me of the animaniacs show
Michael McKown Premium Member 6 months ago
Somebody is in for disappointment. :)
tinstar 6 months ago
It’s pretty sad when someone can take a totally innocuous comic, and turn it into their political soap box. People that do this over every single comic must not have much for lives.
snowedin, now known as Missy's mom 6 months ago
I think I’m gonna hurl again.
cdcoventry 6 months ago
Okay since every one is being rabid inhere, I’ll throw one more middle-road comment in here…you are aware they are lumping completely separate procedures like the rape & incest “care” procedures in with on-demand abortive care just to scare you into thinking this is a dark path to breeding camps right? Those, in almost every state I’m aware of is NOT on the table at al. 2nd, this is not an anti-choice crusade, this is taking what would be controlled by an un-elected federal bureaucrat functionary and returns it into the hand of the states where you have way more control of what happens. You want free-for-all walk in walk-out with a pile of ash? Get involved in your state elections. Don’t want people just being able to do it “willy nilly” ( not my choice of term, hence quotes), get involved. Most people have decided getting involved in issues is too messy and left it to activist groups and the Federal government, so when that power structure (and greed/corruption pipeline) is threatened you’re going to get some really bizarro unrealistic things thrown at you. End of day, both sides are throwing to much fear around and almost all of you are captured by it.
Dragoncat 6 months ago
And so, it ends…
Katecst 6 months ago
I much prefer this daydream vision to last weeks. At least in this one, everyone is loved.
Rich Hansen Premium Member 6 months ago
Still on this shlt? Jesus…
cnhardman 6 months ago
I don’t like either Toni’s or Brad’s daydream family. Let’s just stick with (comics) reality in this case, OK?