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I think Bets is going to storm off tomorrow, leaving Gunther (and his french fries) to hitchhike home by himself. So no âangryâ Gunther to rile fans up and more wrong-doing by Bets to keep her haters happy.
Poor Gunther. He canât win no matter what. He is staying pretty cool. It is definitely no longer a romantic night. Bets likes to pick fights, and she is doing a good job of it tonight. Gunther, eat your fries, wash them down with the soda, call Uber, and go home.
Looks like Gunther decided⊠He did want Tiffs Romantic dinner after all! Time to say goodbye to Bets and move on to someone who cares about you, Gunther!
Oh dear. This is the point where Bets loses my sympathy. Thatâs a classic manipulative move that shows sheâs not interested in whatâs right, only who wins, while trying to make Gunther feel guilty for having an opinion different from hers. I so very much wanted her to be better than that!
Also, Gunther, after you sleep on it, go see Tiffany tomorrow and apologize. After all, make new friends but keep the old. One is silver, and the other is gold.
Yup. Gunther got it. Bets doesnât care about the whole thing being TIFFANYâs assignment and not hers and dismissive of his suggestion that she shouldâve done it the way Tiffany wanted â because it was her assignment. Gunther is now seeing and possibly having flashbacks of her past dismissiveness. He is probably mentally OMGing and asking how blind and oblivious he has been. Gunther, dump her NOW. Just walk out and go back to the McMansion and join Tiffany and Ox. Give them the good news that Bets is gone.
Okay, Now Bets is starting to lose my support. There is nothing more off-putting (in my opinion) than the paranoid âYouâre just like everyone, turning against meâ.
The response from Bets about how Tiffany is Guntherâs âold friendâ and she herself is Guntherâs âgirlfriendâ, so she (Bets) automatically loses is part of what is wrong with Betsâ way of thinking. She sees too many things as a competition when they arenât. Gunther (who is, after all, very school-oriented) saw Tiffany trying to succeed at a school assignment (and both he and Bets have tried to help Tiffany with school). So, to Gunther, the point of the whole thing was to help Tiffany finish her project, which Tiffany had defined as âa romantic dinnerâ. Bets had jumped at the idea of using the setting of the dinner as something to entertain her followers, but it began as a school assignment. Gunther kept trying to keep that in mind, but Bets, instead, began to see it as a competition of her idea versus Tiffanyâs idea. Gunther is right: no one wins hereâŠ
Gunther, if thatâs how Betâs acts when sheâs âjust a girlfriendâ look ahead to the future when Betâs tell you. âOh, Iâm just your wifeâ; the future ainât pretty.
Gunther nails it again. It was Tiffanyâs idea/project and Bets hijacked it for an elaborate pirate thing for her Instagram followers. Now rather Bets consider she was wrong, sheâs playing the girlfriend card. Also, there were no guarantees that Bets would have tagged/promoted Tiffany in any posts.
I originally liked Bets, but jeez, Iâll take Shannon any day as a recurring charachter at this point. At least Shannon acts her age.
âĄBets⥠has sure loves Gunther and has helped him totally forget that he was hungryâĄ! True âĄâĄloveâĄâĄ can do thatâĄ! She⥠is going to help him⥠by giving âĄhim a lot of spare⥠time for studying nowâĄ. âĄThat is so considerate of âĄherâĄ! âĄShe has something really special for youâĄ, Gunther â itâs called ExcedrinÂź Headache number 267âŠâĄâĄ For when the âĄgirlfriend⥠goes all crazy on youâĄ, I mean, all âĄcrazy for youâĄ. Anyway, something âĄlike⥠that. Saturday, riding off into the âĄmoonlightâĄ!!
Looks like Iâm going to be the first to predict a positive outcome on Saturday. I think Gunther will finally get Bets to come around. Sheâs not quite as angry today as she has been, and heâs using a coolly logical argument. Gunther still has one more argument to make by pointing out that Tiffany is also Betsâ friend.
One way or the other, good on Gunther for standing up for the truth and not making this about who wins.
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner also : the capacity for this
The more I see of Bets, the more I think she is devoid of this ability. Iâm not saying this makes her good or evil, but the inability to do this does make a person far less understanding of others. Gunther needs to realize that he will always come after whatever Betsâ current obsession is.
He is kind of in the position of whoever Madonnaâs or Lady Gagaâs boyfriend was before they became famous and moved on.
Good grief, over 800 comments yesterday, that must be a record. Gunther has a point, Bets attitude on this contributes To his apt point that everyone loses here. So the ball is in her court and given her personality, possesive and pushy, and suspicious of her friends that does not look good for them. I think a bigger picture is being constructed though so I will not jump to any conclusions yet. This might verge over to next week.
Possible Scenario #3287: Bets gets mad at Gunther and hits on Les â an act of revenge â with Les an easy mark because he hasnât been getting dates. Gunther is devastated and Tiffany comes to the rescue. Iâve always thought Tiffany & Gunther could be a match â each in their own world but needing someoneâŠ
Over an hour and a half of comments and nobody has yet recognized the keyword for tomorrowâs strip.
Bets used the word âMushy.â
Gunther sweeps the fries to the floor as he pulls Bets across the tabletop, plants a full deep (Described in Bull Durham) kiss on Bets and loudly proclaims:
I LIKE MUSHY!!!
He then walks out the door, accompanied by customer clapping.
All this chat leaves me wondering: when is Tiffany going to return to her lithe figure? She got plump due to Ann. At Tiffanyâs age the excess weight should simply melt away now that Ann is gone.
Yet we still see her with chubby cheeks and wearing a mumu to the grand opening of her elegant restaurant.
This just seems odd for a young woman who probably has not hit 20 yet.
This is kind of building up to an ultimatum by Bets to Gunnie: "Your âoldâ friends like Tiff or your "current " girlfriend"âŠ.. Most are guessing Gunnie will respond by saying something like: âI have been thinking and âŠâ followed by âAdiosâ, âSayonaraâ, âAu Revoirâ, âSee ya later Alligatorâ etcâŠ. I hope this does not happen but it could and then we would have Gun and Bets on the rebound. Some people think Gun and Tiff would make an interesting pair. I agree, Tiff likes Gunnie when he goes for the âDon Johnson weekend to one week shadowâ look and Gunnie could see Tiff a more than just a friend if she makes the first move. However, the issues Gunnie has with Bets are the same as he would have with Tiff, the possibility of not getting a word in edgewise and likely being taken advantage of though. But there is hope for our man Gunnie! To quote Kelly Clarkson âWhat ever doesnât kill you will make you strongerâ. Gunnie will survive the breakup if it occurs and be better prepared for the same situation in the future. Note I said âifâ, still not a guarantee they have a Quill/Luann break up scene on the horizon as G&K could go in another direction despite where this looks like this is leading up to: the final fight and break upâŠ
WOW! Gunther is trying to reson with an angry wild beast. His probably to success are around 0,01%. Bets is insecure and jealous of Guntherâs relationship with his old friends and now heâs saying Tiffany was right. But heâs finally trying! GO GUNTHER!!! Continue to talk with her!
Donât back down now, Gunther. Get it all out in the open.
Tell Bets that he thought the whole point of the evening was to spend time together, but that obviously wasnât true as far as Bets was concerned. And Bets seems all too ready to tell Gunther to choose between her and Tiffany.
i hope tomorrow we see Gunther get up, tell Bets itâs over, and leave. With his fries.
So the romanticâŠIâm doing for him wasnât even Bets idea to start with? But he may be able to bear her lack of romance bit at least for a season. But be careful though. Her temper tantrums can be a nightmare to deal with in the long haul. There are kinder fish in the sea out there for Gunther which would be more than willing to be caught in his net.
Do you suppose Gunther will ever find a girlfriend worthy of him? I used to think heâd be perfect for Luann, but I doubt that will happen as they are too much in the âfriend zone.â
Center PanelâŠ. (could have been)âYeah, SoââSo, when you talk with her did you take anything into consideration as to what her assignment needed to have since she was doing it for school?âThen in 3rd, the response would beâŠâAll I am doing is asking a question. I wasnât there. Youâre smart, just answer the question yourself. I donât have to know the answer.â
yeah, Bets has ben lost to the dark side⊠sheâs completely lost sight that her boyfriend willingly gave up what he knew he needed to do (study) to work on a project (costumes) for her scheme (Pirate date night) which she did not properly plan or communicate through. She just pretty much just told Gunther that she ignored what Tiff said she was doing and how she was doing it, then proceeded to attempt to make him feel guilty for not joining her in her anger at his childhood friends for ⊠checks notes dropping everything and doing things her way.
And again, Iâve seen no indication that money actually changed hands.
Bets has issues. At this point Iâm seeing red flags from my own childhood, and if I were of college age and looking at serious long term commitment Iâd be question getting any more serious without some major work on those issues. Sheâs starting to cross into emotional abuse territory. (i.e. Guntherâs not wrong about what he just asked and itâs not his (nor his friendâs fault) and that their romantic dinner only failed because of Betâs temper and inability to consider what others are saying.)
That said, she probably has a great career ahead of her as a politician.
Yes, it was Tiffanyâs school project for her business course, but Bets also was a paying customer. She offered to pay Tiffany $200 and did specify a pirate theme. If it was free, Bets couldnât complain. Tiffany is learning to run a business where the owner needs to be upfront if they canât meet customer requests. So paying customers get their way if we agree to take their special requests. Otherwise, deliver the experience advertised without special requests.
However, Bets is being very self-focused and not considering Gunth. Sheâs very dramatic and âpoor meâ when she doesnât get her way. Reminds me in many ways of how Tiffany used to be. Gunth needs to figure out what he wants and be really clear to Bets on where he stands. Going to be hard when heâs often so mellow â but we know heâs not mellow! Bets needs to learn to listen, and Gunther needs to learn to speak up. He definitely has started with that last panel. Gunther keep it up!
Gunther has a point. It was Tiffâs school project and her idea. Bets tried to commandeer it and made Gunther do all the grunt work on the costumes. Costumes he had no time to make and didnât want to do in the first place.
I have to say, I am proud of Gunther. He is being cool, level-headed and having a much needed conversation with Bets. The only problem, Gun is using logic while Bets is fueled with emotion. I do hope Bets can be reasoned with in the end.
ââŠ. a mushy thing.., she wins âŠI lose..â Sounds like 4 year old mentality. Whatâs Gunther to do now? His processing capabilities are hitting a wall.
So it looks like Bets is out. Tara has one foot in Utah. Nil hasnât been seen since he and Tara failed to respect Luannâs authoritah. Pru is long gone. Zebo and the Mooney Hall A gang are victims of COVID.
Meanwhile, Bernice is back on the main stage, and Nancy and even Frank have been featured lately.
It starts to feel like GnK are consolidating and going back to the original central cast.
Dog has said several times that Gunther became expendable to Greg before Peru, but for someone who was expendable, he sure has been visible over the last couple of years, and we now know that Luann cares about his love life. Jack has been set up to pair off with Bernice instead of Luann. I think maybe Gunther has worked his way out of Greg-purgatory and that weâre back to Gunther & Luann being the end-game of the strip, hopefully years from now.
Ok, I fully admit I completely forgot this was a school assignment thing. I still stand by what I said before about a business relationship with your client, but my bad entirely for forgetting that this was also for Tiffâs school. So, yeah, Bets is entirely in the wrong this time.
Bets has had an issue with Guntherâs concern for his friends for quite some time. That was probably my first warning bell about her a long time ago. Not for the first time I wonder whether Bets has any real friends outside of Gunther (Iâm not counting Tiffany).
April 13th 2019. Betâs âLook, I like you Gunther, and I want to go to Trekconnek. But either youâre 100% with me or your not. ALL OR NOTHING.â He(WE) were warned.*
Bets first appeared on April fools day 2019. Will this April be the finish for Bets and Guntherâs relationship. Actually, I think not. At least, not yet!
Maybe this is off-topic, but has Betsâ ethnicity ever been revealed? Just curious: Iâm leaning toward Native American, but not sure why. Does anyone know?
Well this is interesting. They are having Bets morph from the smart, affectionate, level headed young woman who, admittedly is obsessed with social media (what young person isnât these days) to a viscous, power hungry, maniacal control freak. She obviously has no real affection for Gunther and has forgotten his role in all this. He was the person who was supposed to be shown a nice romantic dinner by his girlfriend. Instead he gets to witness her preferred activity which is Cat Fight. She can always explain on her web page that Gun chose his old friends over her. That will get her some sympathy from strangers. Itâs the perfect rationalization she can use to break up with him.
The girl clearly has confidence issues. Not sure he can salvage the situation. But he sure is trying. Itâs really hard to give up sex. But there are other things you simply canât give up â even for sex â like your self-respect. One more day to âpull it outâ, GunâŠ
Gunther hasnât learned to sit there and just say âYes Dearâ like the obedient BF that Bets expects him to be. He showed such promise being subservient and following orders. He shelved studying, made costumes, etc and now this!
There was an earlier comment from Live2Read about how this disagreement between Bets and Gunther is just like what happened between Luann and Quill. I tried to respond, but wasnât sure my comment was saved. I donât agree with Live2Read on this. Luann was concerned about Quill being unable or unwilling to make time in his life for a relationship. Work/career would always be first for Quill. In this case, Bets is concerned because she believes that Guntherâs first loyalty would always be to his âold friendsâ , rather than her as his girlfriend, and Bets also seems to see everything as a competition that has to be won. Very different, IMOâŠ
Guntherâs right here, heâs just not very persuasive about it. Bets leaves herself open to comebacks that could show her the error of her ways without causing her to become too defensive (and therefore bring everything to a good resolution), but Gunther isnât exploiting these openings.
Which is, of course, completely true to real life. People are not known for using the best option.
It is just sad and discouraging that Greg has continued to have Bets become less pleasant this arc. I have really liked Bets as a character and Bets and Gunther together as a couple.
ButâŠ. one thing to keep in mindâŠ. and it is easy to sometimes forget about thisâŠ. is that all of this rancor is being experienced over the span of perhaps at most 2-3 hours. And with that time frame in mindâŠ. I sure as hell can say that I know people (including myself) who have been rather angry and upset for that amount of timeâŠ. and then later realized they (and I have too) are looking at things in the wrong way. This kind of realization is what I am hoping to have occur in Bets regarding this matter. Maybe Bets will grow from this and become less competitive, less focused on only her game plans.
I am actually very happy (and just a tad surprised) that Gunther has been keeping so calm and collected about this whole mess. Like many, I was a bit worried he might join the argument and get his own grouchy face on. As of this pointâŠ. and especially with his analysis todayâŠ. I think Gunther is doing awfully damn well here!!!
SoâŠ. I am still hoping and thinking that Bets will eventually chill out and realize the errors of her ways. I suspect Tiffany will get over her frustrations quickly enough (and I still think Tiffany was fine in what she didâŠ. she did not accept moneyâŠ. she SAID she didnât âdoâ pirates to Bets before the event, and she worked hard for her class assignment. And, I hope/suspect even with this bump in the roadâŠ. Bets and Gunther can still be a good couple together.
Alright, even before looking at the other comments, I think weâre all agreed. Dump her or fix her, but this cannot continue. If Bets at least has some kind of epiphany about her behaviour, or if this leads to Tiff becoming a better person somehow, then this wonât have been a completely wasted relationship.
Several commenters have been anticipatingâin some cases eagerly anticipatingâa break-up. I, to the contrary, think weâre heading for a reconciliation, and I look forward to seeing Bets and Gunther at TTFT, Take Two. Perhaps it will happen next week, or perhaps only after we take some time to check up on Brad and Toni and/or Luann, Bernice, and Tara, and to let Dezâs next harvest come in.
I can picture them now: Bets resplendent in an ever-so-elegant evening gown, Gunther in white tie and tails. This time, perhaps Bets will appreciate all the effort and expense Tiff has put in âŠ
Hmmm, I think weâve heard this song before. The green eyed monster rises once again. On one hand Bets seems domineering, but on the other hand she also seems insecure in this relationship. As soon as Gunther gives the slightest hint of supporting any of his friends, she questions his loyalty to her. Kind of an âall or nothingâ person? Gunther seems weary of being between the rock and the hard placeâŠ.again. What will it take to either end this cycle or correct it? Hmmmm :-)
I still hope Gunth will say something that will penetrate Betsâ one sided âall me or nothingâ attitude. I donât think he will get up and walk out on her but she might do that to him. Sadly, Bets probably doesnât have any real friends to turn to should she leave; she has a big following on social media but those arenât real friends. What good are a bunch of âlikesâ on social media when you need someone to talk to?
Bets, my dear, youâre starting to get a little tiresome. Sometimes its best to just let things go. Pick your battles, etc. Of course, that usually takes years of life experience to learn (some never do). But good looks will only go so far -eventually, the âshineâ fades and resentment will set in.
this is how they get rid of going nowhere characters and or plot line. someone said betts and less , now that would be interesting for a while. have gunther try to sleep with those two getting busy in another room.
Note to Gunther: In 1972, a very wise man named Rick Nelson made the following observation: âYou canât please everyone, so youâve got to please yourselfâ. Food for thoughtâŠâŠ
Whatever empathy Bets may once have had has become lost in her growing narcissism. A split between her and Gunther now seems unavoidable; itâs just a question of how soon and how dramaticâŠ.
In my 60-plus years of life, I have known people, both male and female, like Bets. (I almost married one.) I donât know that Bets is exactly like them, but basically, I think she will not listen to reason, will not be comforted with reassurances from Gunther, and will not be happy at all unless Gunther is in complete agreement with her point of view. She will also punish him for having DARED not to agree with her first thing, even if they stay together. And maybe this is a little bit too much âreal lifeâ, but I really worry about them leaving in her car together or apart. She is so angry that she shouldnât be driving. (Studies have shown that emotional driving is at least as dangerous as drunk driving). If Gunther is with her, he is in danger, too. I hope nothing happens regarding that (and people sometimes tell me to quit being a nurse and EMT, lol!). G&K are known for surprises, so I wonât hazard a guess as to what comes next. I do, however, hope that this arc comes to an end (or at least is temporarily dropped) tomorrow, as I am unusually weary of the whole thing. (Perhaps due to past experiences, who knows?)
Be good to your friends. Be good to your friends who are good to their friends. Be good to your friends who are good to their friends who are good to their friends who are good to their friendsâŠ. (But what all the friends in this infinitely recursive chain fail to be good to ALL their friends??))
Or just do the best you can and live with the results.
Boy does she sound like my former sister-in-law, who has Borderline Personality Disorder. If anyoneâs in a relationship with someone like this, I highly recommend the book, âI Hate You Donât Leave Meâ to understand why they act like that and what you can do (and what doesnât make any difference like it would with a normal person.)
Templo S.U.D. almost 4 years ago
good call in the end, Gunther
AnyFace almost 4 years ago
Mordock999 Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Well it wonât be long now.
And Iâve noticed that Gunther has indeed, âwised up.â
He now has his fries well out of reach. :)
GirlGeek Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Sheâs still talking about it⊠just shut up
R.W.Singer -SF almost 4 years ago
Get out GunnerâŠâŠNOW!
Cheapskate0 almost 4 years ago
Sad. It appears that G&K have trashed perhaps the most interesting new character in this strip.
On the other hand, Gunther didnât blow a gasket (as many were expecting).
ronaldspence almost 4 years ago
Warning! Warning! Danger Will Robinson!
beb01 almost 4 years ago
I think Bets is going to storm off tomorrow, leaving Gunther (and his french fries) to hitchhike home by himself. So no âangryâ Gunther to rile fans up and more wrong-doing by Bets to keep her haters happy.
linus82 almost 4 years ago
Gunther conoce a Tiffany desde hace muchos años, y a Bets desde hace dos, y a través de un sitio de citas, por lo que es obvio quien gana. Estoy seguro que a pesar de ser su novia, Gunther apenas estå conociendo a la real Bets.
wantcomicsnow almost 4 years ago
Yes. Yes, Gunther you are absolutely right.
And if you keep trying to be the voice of reason, you will be the biggest loser. :P
Willow Mt Lyon almost 4 years ago
Poor Gunther. He canât win no matter what. He is staying pretty cool. It is definitely no longer a romantic night. Bets likes to pick fights, and she is doing a good job of it tonight. Gunther, eat your fries, wash them down with the soda, call Uber, and go home.
lvlax almost 4 years ago
Looks like Gunther decided⊠He did want Tiffs Romantic dinner after all! Time to say goodbye to Bets and move on to someone who cares about you, Gunther!
DoloresJ.Nurss almost 4 years ago
Oh dear. This is the point where Bets loses my sympathy. Thatâs a classic manipulative move that shows sheâs not interested in whatâs right, only who wins, while trying to make Gunther feel guilty for having an opinion different from hers. I so very much wanted her to be better than that!
Willow Mt Lyon almost 4 years ago
Also, Gunther, after you sleep on it, go see Tiffany tomorrow and apologize. After all, make new friends but keep the old. One is silver, and the other is gold.
lvlax almost 4 years ago
Damn, heâs got enough fries in that box to feed a family of 4! Taking NO chances! LOL
capricorn9th almost 4 years ago
Yup. Gunther got it. Bets doesnât care about the whole thing being TIFFANYâs assignment and not hers and dismissive of his suggestion that she shouldâve done it the way Tiffany wanted â because it was her assignment. Gunther is now seeing and possibly having flashbacks of her past dismissiveness. He is probably mentally OMGing and asking how blind and oblivious he has been. Gunther, dump her NOW. Just walk out and go back to the McMansion and join Tiffany and Ox. Give them the good news that Bets is gone.
howtheduck almost 4 years ago
Gunther is starting to loseâŠlose his sanity.
wantcomicsnow almost 4 years ago
Itâs too bad Bets didnât pick up on Guntherâs statement: âItâs romantic, Itâs the two that counts.â He did try.
Caldonia almost 4 years ago
Heâs sure breaking the fourth wall there.
ericbrower almost 4 years ago
Okay, Now Bets is starting to lose my support. There is nothing more off-putting (in my opinion) than the paranoid âYouâre just like everyone, turning against meâ.
Joe1962 almost 4 years ago
Good call Gunther you are dealing with a classic manipulative bitch. Now go Tiff and apologize to her.
notbornyesterday almost 4 years ago
One thing for sure Gunther, you not winning.
kenhense almost 4 years ago
When a woman is ranting, either get on board with her â or walk the plank.
Argythree almost 4 years ago
The response from Bets about how Tiffany is Guntherâs âold friendâ and she herself is Guntherâs âgirlfriendâ, so she (Bets) automatically loses is part of what is wrong with Betsâ way of thinking. She sees too many things as a competition when they arenât. Gunther (who is, after all, very school-oriented) saw Tiffany trying to succeed at a school assignment (and both he and Bets have tried to help Tiffany with school). So, to Gunther, the point of the whole thing was to help Tiffany finish her project, which Tiffany had defined as âa romantic dinnerâ. Bets had jumped at the idea of using the setting of the dinner as something to entertain her followers, but it began as a school assignment. Gunther kept trying to keep that in mind, but Bets, instead, began to see it as a competition of her idea versus Tiffanyâs idea. Gunther is right: no one wins hereâŠ
oddhumor almost 4 years ago
Gunther is speaking for a lot of the readers in the last panel.
JCB almost 4 years ago
Someone here definitely needs to lose.
notbornyesterday almost 4 years ago
Gunther, if thatâs how Betâs acts when sheâs âjust a girlfriendâ look ahead to the future when Betâs tell you. âOh, Iâm just your wifeâ; the future ainât pretty.
seanyj almost 4 years ago
Break Up Alert Luann fans!
JonGoss almost 4 years ago
Gunther nails it again. It was Tiffanyâs idea/project and Bets hijacked it for an elaborate pirate thing for her Instagram followers. Now rather Bets consider she was wrong, sheâs playing the girlfriend card. Also, there were no guarantees that Bets would have tagged/promoted Tiffany in any posts.
I originally liked Bets, but jeez, Iâll take Shannon any day as a recurring charachter at this point. At least Shannon acts her age.
Brdshtt Premium Member almost 4 years ago
âĄBets⥠has sure loves Gunther and has helped him totally forget that he was hungryâĄ! True âĄâĄloveâĄâĄ can do thatâĄ! She⥠is going to help him⥠by giving âĄhim a lot of spare⥠time for studying nowâĄ. âĄThat is so considerate of âĄherâĄ! âĄShe has something really special for youâĄ, Gunther â itâs called ExcedrinÂź Headache number 267âŠâĄâĄ For when the âĄgirlfriend⥠goes all crazy on youâĄ, I mean, all âĄcrazy for youâĄ. Anyway, something âĄlike⥠that. Saturday, riding off into the âĄmoonlightâĄ!!
Rhetorical_Question almost 4 years ago
Gunther-stop being an engineer. Bets feel unappreciated and she needs your ability to agree with her feelings. No logic
Asharah almost 4 years ago
Gunther should have listened to Les. Did I actually say that?
SJhapamama almost 4 years ago
Hate to say it, Gunth, but you shouldâve listened to LesâŠ
Airman almost 4 years ago
Final frame Guntherâs statement gets the Bingo
AnnaLisa Snow Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Run, Gunther, run!
PeterPirate almost 4 years ago
Looks like Iâm going to be the first to predict a positive outcome on Saturday. I think Gunther will finally get Bets to come around. Sheâs not quite as angry today as she has been, and heâs using a coolly logical argument. Gunther still has one more argument to make by pointing out that Tiffany is also Betsâ friend.
One way or the other, good on Gunther for standing up for the truth and not making this about who wins.
bytebot-gocomics almost 4 years ago
From Merriam Webster:empathy noun
Definition of empathy
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner also : the capacity for this
The more I see of Bets, the more I think she is devoid of this ability. Iâm not saying this makes her good or evil, but the inability to do this does make a person far less understanding of others. Gunther needs to realize that he will always come after whatever Betsâ current obsession is.
He is kind of in the position of whoever Madonnaâs or Lady Gagaâs boyfriend was before they became famous and moved on.
bytebot-gocomics almost 4 years ago
Say, what do you call a chicken with a piece of lettuce in its eye?
Chicken sees a salad!
Baarorso almost 4 years ago
Gunth, I hope youâre beginning to see how possessive and arrogant Bets is. DROP HER LIKE A BAD HABIT, NOW!
luann1212 almost 4 years ago
Good grief, over 800 comments yesterday, that must be a record. Gunther has a point, Bets attitude on this contributes To his apt point that everyone loses here. So the ball is in her court and given her personality, possesive and pushy, and suspicious of her friends that does not look good for them. I think a bigger picture is being constructed though so I will not jump to any conclusions yet. This might verge over to next week.
R.W. Singer Sr. almost 4 years ago
Iâm pretty sure Ox is feeling like a winner.
kenhense almost 4 years ago
Possible Scenario #3287: Bets gets mad at Gunther and hits on Les â an act of revenge â with Les an easy mark because he hasnât been getting dates. Gunther is devastated and Tiffany comes to the rescue. Iâve always thought Tiffany & Gunther could be a match â each in their own world but needing someoneâŠ
Don Draper almost 4 years ago
Gunther, take it from meâŠ.
Unless youâre willing to sit in the penalty box of the relationship, never use logic and common sense when it undermines your significant other.
Vilyehm almost 4 years ago
Over an hour and a half of comments and nobody has yet recognized the keyword for tomorrowâs strip.
Bets used the word âMushy.â
Gunther sweeps the fries to the floor as he pulls Bets across the tabletop, plants a full deep (Described in Bull Durham) kiss on Bets and loudly proclaims:
I LIKE MUSHY!!!
He then walks out the door, accompanied by customer clapping.
End of current arc.
But not of the relationshipâŠ.
Redemption to follow.
mysterysciencefreezer almost 4 years ago
ITâs as if Evans and Evans assumed all along that Betsâ (justified) freak out at Tiff wouldnât be enough to turn the tide of hatedom.
bytebot-gocomics almost 4 years ago
All this chat leaves me wondering: when is Tiffany going to return to her lithe figure? She got plump due to Ann. At Tiffanyâs age the excess weight should simply melt away now that Ann is gone.
Yet we still see her with chubby cheeks and wearing a mumu to the grand opening of her elegant restaurant.
This just seems odd for a young woman who probably has not hit 20 yet.
cowchips almost 4 years ago
Kind of like Prince Harry any Meghan?
tonypezzano almost 4 years ago
In that panel all are losers. At Tiffanyâs place they lost the losers.
Chopped Fowl almost 4 years ago
Gunther, ⊠leave the girl, take the fries âŠ..
TampaFanatic1 almost 4 years ago
This is kind of building up to an ultimatum by Bets to Gunnie: "Your âoldâ friends like Tiff or your "current " girlfriend"âŠ.. Most are guessing Gunnie will respond by saying something like: âI have been thinking and âŠâ followed by âAdiosâ, âSayonaraâ, âAu Revoirâ, âSee ya later Alligatorâ etcâŠ. I hope this does not happen but it could and then we would have Gun and Bets on the rebound. Some people think Gun and Tiff would make an interesting pair. I agree, Tiff likes Gunnie when he goes for the âDon Johnson weekend to one week shadowâ look and Gunnie could see Tiff a more than just a friend if she makes the first move. However, the issues Gunnie has with Bets are the same as he would have with Tiff, the possibility of not getting a word in edgewise and likely being taken advantage of though. But there is hope for our man Gunnie! To quote Kelly Clarkson âWhat ever doesnât kill you will make you strongerâ. Gunnie will survive the breakup if it occurs and be better prepared for the same situation in the future. Note I said âifâ, still not a guarantee they have a Quill/Luann break up scene on the horizon as G&K could go in another direction despite where this looks like this is leading up to: the final fight and break upâŠ
Vilyehm almost 4 years ago
Sorry, but those hearts are becoming a bit like Shannon.
Too much too often becomes annoying.
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Aladar30 Premium Member almost 4 years ago
WOW! Gunther is trying to reson with an angry wild beast. His probably to success are around 0,01%. Bets is insecure and jealous of Guntherâs relationship with his old friends and now heâs saying Tiffany was right. But heâs finally trying! GO GUNTHER!!! Continue to talk with her!
sueb1863 almost 4 years ago
Donât back down now, Gunther. Get it all out in the open.
Tell Bets that he thought the whole point of the evening was to spend time together, but that obviously wasnât true as far as Bets was concerned. And Bets seems all too ready to tell Gunther to choose between her and Tiffany.
i hope tomorrow we see Gunther get up, tell Bets itâs over, and leave. With his fries.
trantor0815 almost 4 years ago
It is all just about misguided communication
Holilubillkori Premium Member almost 4 years ago
In the beginning I liked Bets..but unfortunately she is just self-serving 24/7..
shamest Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Gunther time to fly
Troglodyte almost 4 years ago
Loversâ tiff over Tiff! Hope Bets gets over her dark mood and sees that thereâs more than one way to look at the eveningâs happenings.
Johnnyrico almost 4 years ago
Well, the evening rolled over into a nose-dive, and itâs turned into an inverted spinâŠ. next up is crash ân burn..
tremaine53 almost 4 years ago
Not Ox! HE isnât losing!
electricpostcard almost 4 years ago
So the romanticâŠIâm doing for him wasnât even Bets idea to start with? But he may be able to bear her lack of romance bit at least for a season. But be careful though. Her temper tantrums can be a nightmare to deal with in the long haul. There are kinder fish in the sea out there for Gunther which would be more than willing to be caught in his net.
BradFilippone almost 4 years ago
Do you suppose Gunther will ever find a girlfriend worthy of him? I used to think heâd be perfect for Luann, but I doubt that will happen as they are too much in the âfriend zone.â
Searsportguy almost 4 years ago
Center PanelâŠ. (could have been)âYeah, SoââSo, when you talk with her did you take anything into consideration as to what her assignment needed to have since she was doing it for school?âThen in 3rd, the response would beâŠâAll I am doing is asking a question. I wasnât there. Youâre smart, just answer the question yourself. I donât have to know the answer.â
mr , b almost 4 years ago
Some times it is JUST not worth it , walk away .
cinlou4u almost 4 years ago
Geez Gunther. Grow a pair. Stand up for yourself and your friend.
STACEY MARSHALL Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Bets! You are FIRED!
TheElderGodfather almost 4 years ago
yeah, Bets has ben lost to the dark side⊠sheâs completely lost sight that her boyfriend willingly gave up what he knew he needed to do (study) to work on a project (costumes) for her scheme (Pirate date night) which she did not properly plan or communicate through. She just pretty much just told Gunther that she ignored what Tiff said she was doing and how she was doing it, then proceeded to attempt to make him feel guilty for not joining her in her anger at his childhood friends for ⊠checks notes dropping everything and doing things her way.
And again, Iâve seen no indication that money actually changed hands.
Bets has issues. At this point Iâm seeing red flags from my own childhood, and if I were of college age and looking at serious long term commitment Iâd be question getting any more serious without some major work on those issues. Sheâs starting to cross into emotional abuse territory. (i.e. Guntherâs not wrong about what he just asked and itâs not his (nor his friendâs fault) and that their romantic dinner only failed because of Betâs temper and inability to consider what others are saying.)
That said, she probably has a great career ahead of her as a politician.
JonnyT almost 4 years ago
Ooooh, I forgot it was a school assignment. Ok, Iâm back on Team Tiffany now!
russef almost 4 years ago
DUMP HER NOW!
Odin almost 4 years ago
My guess is that she wants the wicked weenie.
RickMcdermott almost 4 years ago
Time to tell her goodbye for good gunner nothing but trouble
Kirsten Reitan Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Yes, it was Tiffanyâs school project for her business course, but Bets also was a paying customer. She offered to pay Tiffany $200 and did specify a pirate theme. If it was free, Bets couldnât complain. Tiffany is learning to run a business where the owner needs to be upfront if they canât meet customer requests. So paying customers get their way if we agree to take their special requests. Otherwise, deliver the experience advertised without special requests.
Kirsten Reitan Premium Member almost 4 years ago
However, Bets is being very self-focused and not considering Gunth. Sheâs very dramatic and âpoor meâ when she doesnât get her way. Reminds me in many ways of how Tiffany used to be. Gunth needs to figure out what he wants and be really clear to Bets on where he stands. Going to be hard when heâs often so mellow â but we know heâs not mellow! Bets needs to learn to listen, and Gunther needs to learn to speak up. He definitely has started with that last panel. Gunther keep it up!
ellisc almost 4 years ago
The customer is always right goes the old adage and Bets WAS the customer!
Jim2g almost 4 years ago
No reasoning with her
Ellis97 almost 4 years ago
Boy, talk about possessive and clingy.
Bernedoodle almost 4 years ago
Life lesson: Never use logical reasoning with an irrational person.
ctolson almost 4 years ago
Gunth is maybe finally starting to get female smart.
lunapeachie almost 4 years ago
Gunther has a point. It was Tiffâs school project and her idea. Bets tried to commandeer it and made Gunther do all the grunt work on the costumes. Costumes he had no time to make and didnât want to do in the first place.
Tyge almost 4 years ago
Hey! G-man! Thatâs what weâve been saying all along!
preacherman Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Gunt was going so good till he opened his mouth and used logic and deductive reasoning. The Tiff/Betts spat is anything but logical.
Tyge almost 4 years ago
OR! âMaybe we should have taken advantage of what she offered!â
Frosty The Snowman almost 4 years ago
Gunther has a real fight on his hands⊠who will win, the big head or the little head?
M4kh41 almost 4 years ago
Actually, Guntherâs the only one losing here.
Mr. JRB almost 4 years ago
We readers are the real losers here
Airman almost 4 years ago
Gunther is the Albatross on this Ship of Fools, dump him.
Otis Rufus Driftwood almost 4 years ago
Amen to Guntherâs last line.
Wlly Blly almost 4 years ago
While I still think it was Tiffanyâs fault for not making it clear to Bets what she was doing, Bets is just going off the rails here.
tabsspam almost 4 years ago
Run, Gun. Run.
Katecst almost 4 years ago
I had forgotten that it was a school assignment. Tiff will have an interesting report to write up.
rrsltx almost 4 years ago
Wait⊠Bets isnât filming the drama here for her doting fans?
dv1093 almost 4 years ago
Iâm telling ya Gunth â turn, and run.
DG almost 4 years ago
I have to say, I am proud of Gunther. He is being cool, level-headed and having a much needed conversation with Bets. The only problem, Gun is using logic while Bets is fueled with emotion. I do hope Bets can be reasoned with in the end.
Cincoflex almost 4 years ago
I feel for Gunther, who genuinely likes both of these girls (for different reasons) but he is such a passive character in general.
RSH almost 4 years ago
ââŠ. a mushy thing.., she wins âŠI lose..â Sounds like 4 year old mentality. Whatâs Gunther to do now? His processing capabilities are hitting a wall.
Need coffee almost 4 years ago
So it looks like Bets is out. Tara has one foot in Utah. Nil hasnât been seen since he and Tara failed to respect Luannâs authoritah. Pru is long gone. Zebo and the Mooney Hall A gang are victims of COVID.
Meanwhile, Bernice is back on the main stage, and Nancy and even Frank have been featured lately.
It starts to feel like GnK are consolidating and going back to the original central cast.
Dog has said several times that Gunther became expendable to Greg before Peru, but for someone who was expendable, he sure has been visible over the last couple of years, and we now know that Luann cares about his love life. Jack has been set up to pair off with Bernice instead of Luann. I think maybe Gunther has worked his way out of Greg-purgatory and that weâre back to Gunther & Luann being the end-game of the strip, hopefully years from now.
TwilightFaze almost 4 years ago
Ok, I fully admit I completely forgot this was a school assignment thing. I still stand by what I said before about a business relationship with your client, but my bad entirely for forgetting that this was also for Tiffâs school. So, yeah, Bets is entirely in the wrong this time.
percheronhitch6 almost 4 years ago
Gunther 10 points for the win!
kauri44 almost 4 years ago
Bets has had an issue with Guntherâs concern for his friends for quite some time. That was probably my first warning bell about her a long time ago. Not for the first time I wonder whether Bets has any real friends outside of Gunther (Iâm not counting Tiffany).
MuddyUSA Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Women, never try to figure them out. Just hug them!
Terminal Frost Premium Member almost 4 years ago
April 13th 2019. Betâs âLook, I like you Gunther, and I want to go to Trekconnek. But either youâre 100% with me or your not. ALL OR NOTHING.â He(WE) were warned.*
RSH almost 4 years ago
Right now Bets reminds me of Shannon.
Tyge almost 4 years ago
Bets first appeared on April fools day 2019. Will this April be the finish for Bets and Guntherâs relationship. Actually, I think not. At least, not yet!
Mayor Snorkum almost 4 years ago
Maybe this is off-topic, but has Betsâ ethnicity ever been revealed? Just curious: Iâm leaning toward Native American, but not sure why. Does anyone know?
Michael G. almost 4 years ago
Gunther? Run! Donât look back and donât stop!
comic reader 22 almost 4 years ago
Well this is interesting. They are having Bets morph from the smart, affectionate, level headed young woman who, admittedly is obsessed with social media (what young person isnât these days) to a viscous, power hungry, maniacal control freak. She obviously has no real affection for Gunther and has forgotten his role in all this. He was the person who was supposed to be shown a nice romantic dinner by his girlfriend. Instead he gets to witness her preferred activity which is Cat Fight. She can always explain on her web page that Gun chose his old friends over her. That will get her some sympathy from strangers. Itâs the perfect rationalization she can use to break up with him.
Code the Enforcer almost 4 years ago
⊠âSo she wins, I lose?â âŠ
Ahhh, the olâ Emotional Ultimatum !! ⊠Gunther shouldnât just walk away for more fries ⊠He should walk away. Period. âŠ
Numbnumb almost 4 years ago
So Gunther is dating a first class Witch???
Call me Ishmael almost 4 years ago
The girl clearly has confidence issues. Not sure he can salvage the situation. But he sure is trying. Itâs really hard to give up sex. But there are other things you simply canât give up â even for sex â like your self-respect. One more day to âpull it outâ, GunâŠ
Vorticia almost 4 years ago
Wake up and smell the narcissist Gunth, time to get rid of that stink.
martynhappyone almost 4 years ago
Gunther hasnât learned to sit there and just say âYes Dearâ like the obedient BF that Bets expects him to be. He showed such promise being subservient and following orders. He shelved studying, made costumes, etc and now this!
catsarose almost 4 years ago
Gunther, please kick her to the curb!!
dknutson01 almost 4 years ago
So Greg finally adds another character of color and he makes her this way? This is getting old. >:(
Argythree almost 4 years ago
There was an earlier comment from Live2Read about how this disagreement between Bets and Gunther is just like what happened between Luann and Quill. I tried to respond, but wasnât sure my comment was saved. I donât agree with Live2Read on this. Luann was concerned about Quill being unable or unwilling to make time in his life for a relationship. Work/career would always be first for Quill. In this case, Bets is concerned because she believes that Guntherâs first loyalty would always be to his âold friendsâ , rather than her as his girlfriend, and Bets also seems to see everything as a competition that has to be won. Very different, IMOâŠ
greenlynn Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Well that conversation went south in a hurry!
BJShipley1 almost 4 years ago
Guntherâs right here, heâs just not very persuasive about it. Bets leaves herself open to comebacks that could show her the error of her ways without causing her to become too defensive (and therefore bring everything to a good resolution), but Gunther isnât exploiting these openings.
Which is, of course, completely true to real life. People are not known for using the best option.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member almost 4 years ago
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It is just sad and discouraging that Greg has continued to have Bets become less pleasant this arc. I have really liked Bets as a character and Bets and Gunther together as a couple.
ButâŠ. one thing to keep in mindâŠ. and it is easy to sometimes forget about thisâŠ. is that all of this rancor is being experienced over the span of perhaps at most 2-3 hours. And with that time frame in mindâŠ. I sure as hell can say that I know people (including myself) who have been rather angry and upset for that amount of timeâŠ. and then later realized they (and I have too) are looking at things in the wrong way. This kind of realization is what I am hoping to have occur in Bets regarding this matter. Maybe Bets will grow from this and become less competitive, less focused on only her game plans.
I am actually very happy (and just a tad surprised) that Gunther has been keeping so calm and collected about this whole mess. Like many, I was a bit worried he might join the argument and get his own grouchy face on. As of this pointâŠ. and especially with his analysis todayâŠ. I think Gunther is doing awfully damn well here!!!
SoâŠ. I am still hoping and thinking that Bets will eventually chill out and realize the errors of her ways. I suspect Tiffany will get over her frustrations quickly enough (and I still think Tiffany was fine in what she didâŠ. she did not accept moneyâŠ. she SAID she didnât âdoâ pirates to Bets before the event, and she worked hard for her class assignment. And, I hope/suspect even with this bump in the roadâŠ. Bets and Gunther can still be a good couple together.
LeighBurton almost 4 years ago
Bets has been a jerk ever since she joined the Luann comic! Gunther is right!
forestkat2015 almost 4 years ago
Bets just said it herself : âI loseâ. Sheâs self absorbed and quite needy and, I suspect, soon to ba alone with her issues.
Decepticomic almost 4 years ago
Alright, even before looking at the other comments, I think weâre all agreed. Dump her or fix her, but this cannot continue. If Bets at least has some kind of epiphany about her behaviour, or if this leads to Tiff becoming a better person somehow, then this wonât have been a completely wasted relationship.
Ginny Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Never pit an old friend against a girlfriend. The latter is easily replaced.
outonalimb almost 4 years ago
Several commenters have been anticipatingâin some cases eagerly anticipatingâa break-up. I, to the contrary, think weâre heading for a reconciliation, and I look forward to seeing Bets and Gunther at TTFT, Take Two. Perhaps it will happen next week, or perhaps only after we take some time to check up on Brad and Toni and/or Luann, Bernice, and Tara, and to let Dezâs next harvest come in.
I can picture them now: Bets resplendent in an ever-so-elegant evening gown, Gunther in white tie and tails. This time, perhaps Bets will appreciate all the effort and expense Tiff has put in âŠ
dcoyote almost 4 years ago
Iâm really disappointed on how immature Bets really is, but Gunther has shown a lot of maturity during all this
YorkGirl Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Hmmm, I think weâve heard this song before. The green eyed monster rises once again. On one hand Bets seems domineering, but on the other hand she also seems insecure in this relationship. As soon as Gunther gives the slightest hint of supporting any of his friends, she questions his loyalty to her. Kind of an âall or nothingâ person? Gunther seems weary of being between the rock and the hard placeâŠ.again. What will it take to either end this cycle or correct it? Hmmmm :-)
Statick almost 4 years ago
Gunther, you chose wrong, buddy. Always go with what the girlfriend wants, especially if you like her.
cmxx almost 4 years ago
Gunth gets wise. Wonder if itâll last . . . nah.
CoreyTaylor1 almost 4 years ago
How can Bets eat when sheâs so full of herself?
RSH almost 4 years ago
I still hope Gunth will say something that will penetrate Betsâ one sided âall me or nothingâ attitude. I donât think he will get up and walk out on her but she might do that to him. Sadly, Bets probably doesnât have any real friends to turn to should she leave; she has a big following on social media but those arenât real friends. What good are a bunch of âlikesâ on social media when you need someone to talk to?
brewingbiker almost 4 years ago
Bets, my dear, youâre starting to get a little tiresome. Sometimes its best to just let things go. Pick your battles, etc. Of course, that usually takes years of life experience to learn (some never do). But good looks will only go so far -eventually, the âshineâ fades and resentment will set in.
cat3crazy Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Bets has been controlling and manipulative from day one. He needs to step back and think before spending any more time with her.
asrialfeeple almost 4 years ago
Gunth, dude, it might be time to bail.
bakana almost 4 years ago
Guntherâs First impulse is always âCanât we all just be Friends?â.
When dealing with Angry Girlfriends, that is not usually a good strategy to start out with.
PhoenixHocking almost 4 years ago
I think the only âwinnerâ here, was Ox.
realdeedizzle almost 4 years ago
this is how they get rid of going nowhere characters and or plot line. someone said betts and less , now that would be interesting for a while. have gunther try to sleep with those two getting busy in another room.
BlitzMcD almost 4 years ago
Note to Gunther: In 1972, a very wise man named Rick Nelson made the following observation: âYou canât please everyone, so youâve got to please yourselfâ. Food for thoughtâŠâŠ
w16521 almost 4 years ago
Gunther needs to dump Bets now. She is everything you donât want in a gf.
Sisyphos almost 4 years ago
Whatever empathy Bets may once have had has become lost in her growing narcissism. A split between her and Gunther now seems unavoidable; itâs just a question of how soon and how dramaticâŠ.
finnygirl Premium Member almost 4 years ago
In my 60-plus years of life, I have known people, both male and female, like Bets. (I almost married one.) I donât know that Bets is exactly like them, but basically, I think she will not listen to reason, will not be comforted with reassurances from Gunther, and will not be happy at all unless Gunther is in complete agreement with her point of view. She will also punish him for having DARED not to agree with her first thing, even if they stay together. And maybe this is a little bit too much âreal lifeâ, but I really worry about them leaving in her car together or apart. She is so angry that she shouldnât be driving. (Studies have shown that emotional driving is at least as dangerous as drunk driving). If Gunther is with her, he is in danger, too. I hope nothing happens regarding that (and people sometimes tell me to quit being a nurse and EMT, lol!). G&K are known for surprises, so I wonât hazard a guess as to what comes next. I do, however, hope that this arc comes to an end (or at least is temporarily dropped) tomorrow, as I am unusually weary of the whole thing. (Perhaps due to past experiences, who knows?)
Mary Sullivan Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Truer words.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen almost 4 years ago
Be good to your friends. Be good to your friends who are good to their friends. Be good to your friends who are good to their friends who are good to their friends who are good to their friendsâŠ. (But what all the friends in this infinitely recursive chain fail to be good to ALL their friends??))
Or just do the best you can and live with the results.
amaryllis2 Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Boy does she sound like my former sister-in-law, who has Borderline Personality Disorder. If anyoneâs in a relationship with someone like this, I highly recommend the book, âI Hate You Donât Leave Meâ to understand why they act like that and what you can do (and what doesnât make any difference like it would with a normal person.)
Alia Noora about 3 years ago
Bets is very selfish.